Well, considering 90% of the US was supportive of the Afghanistan invasion I would think you could figure it out yourself. But I give you WAY too much credit.

And yet you haven’t a scintilla of proof for any of your above statements either. And our “fellow citizens” are hardly that, they are in the pockets of those very same funders, planners, etc. It is inconceivable that the sheer volume of screwups that had to happen on 9/11 didn’t have some help, active or passive, from the highest officials, our “fellow citizens”.

Web sites are an outlet for frustration and rage. And, it is regrettable if real conservatives suffer the abuse directed at the Reich-wing fringe. The fact of the matter is that there’s nothing conservative about Bushco. They are reckless radicals, have exposed themselves as such, and have turned “GOP” into a curse.

As for “absolving” Bin Laden and AQ, I don’t see it. I very much want those guilty for the 9/11 attacks brought to justice and that wish is expressed widely here at TP. I especially want to know what part, if any, our “good friends”, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, played.

Mr. Bush, however, appears not to feel the same. After all, he did say: “I don’t know where [Bin Laden] is..You know, I just don’t spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. …I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him.” Not to mention invading Iraq before the guilty parties were brought to justice.

Speaking only for myself, Bushco’s failure to catch, or kill, Bin Laden earns them a share of the blame even if there was nothing they could do to prevent the attacks. And I place all the blame for the carnage in Iraq squarely on their shoulders. Even if they believed they were doing the right thing, and there were no intentional misdeeds, unnecessarily invading a sovereign nation is about the worst thing a country can do. If our dark suspicions prove true? Bushco should pay the ultimate price.

First I would cite that Shrub is the “Captain of the Ship”

But beyond that, the current administration has been marked by the most severe secrecy and obsessive control of any administration in my memory. Workers in govt agencies can’t talk to the local flower club without getting high level clearance. NIH officials can’t speak on healthcare without high level clearance.

All implicated by Abu Zubayda. None of this info turned over to the 911 commission, even though such material was requested.???

Oh well…there’s probably an entirely innocent explanation for all this. Nothing to see here.

Comment by Frank M — December 22, 2007 @ 3:04 pm

Cool Jingle Ballsâ„¢, Frank. You’ve in hangin’ out wit’ Li’l Fooite ‘n Hendler too much. ‘N that flashing red Rudolph nose is jes’ perfert this time o’ year. Somebody, git a picture ‘o Frankie before he sobers up.

It’s O.K. Even trolls (most of them anyway) don’t seriously think typos render one’s thoughts invalid. If one ever does make such a claim, refer them to the linguistic skills of Herr Dubbya.

BACK ON TOPIC:

One could read “tapegate” as an encouraging sign. The very fact it became a story suggests that there are elements in the intelligence community who are willing to turn on Bushco. Much like the “loose nukes” story suggests the “Commander in Chief” is being thwarted by principled members of the military. I think it has to do with a desire to continue their careers and, hopefully, stay out of prison. And, hopefully, the desire to do the right thing.

As for the reason those tapes were destroyed? I think it far more likely they were destroyed to quash the answers provided than to protect the interrogators. Bushco doesn’t go out of their way to protect underlings so long as the “top dawgs” can operate at will.

so 7000 American deaths caused by this government isn’t a big enough number for you, frank? How many would make such an America-hater as you happy? A couple of destroyed tapes is indeed the “smoking gun” of a conspiracy, by definition. It’s your side’s line “if you haven’t done anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about”. so, there’s the proof of a conspiracy, by your own measure. You’re just as low as spit in a gutter, but you’re too stupid to know it.

Comment by Veritas
I’M WITH YOU! TIME TO IMPEACH, INDICT AND IMPRISON IS LONG OVERDUE!
9/11 was an inside job. Preventing investigations and other witnesses from the evidence of TORTURE containing in the tapes would make the “confession on envolvment on the plot of 9/11″ look like one of the Bush’s speachs… no depth, no credibility.

Methinks that Mr. Tenet has a lot of ’splainin’ to do right now. It’s time for him to be subpoenaed and interrogated. It appears that he (and others) intentionally misled Congress as to the existence of these highly incriminating tapes.

Since George Tenet’s favorite line in public has been “WE DON’T TORTURE, WE DON’T TORTURE” – plagiarized directly from Bushco’s playbook of the same, it’s clear that he was trying to prepare the way for precisely the goods we now have on him right here.

It’s always been said that the destruction of evidence (obstruction of justice) penalty can be worse than the crime itself and it’s concomittant penalty.

Bring it on to this administration!

Bigger to me than obstruction of justice.

So what gives here?

Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — December 22, 2007 @ 11:06 am

Unprecedented arrogance?