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Conservative mag depicts Rudy in fascist garb.

By Faiz on Dec 22nd, 2007 at 4:00 pm

Conservative mag depicts Rudy in fascist garb.»

The latest cover of the American Conservative depicts Rudy Giuliani in a fascist uniform. Ali Eteraz notes “it’s interesting that paleoconservatives feel this strongly against Rudy.”

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Glenn Greenwald has a piece in the magazine arguing that, as NYC mayor, Giuliani “developed a reputation as a power-hungry, dissent-intolerant authoritarian, obsessed with secrecy and expanding his own power.”




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73 Responses to “Conservative mag depicts Rudy in fascist garb.”

  1. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    No wonder he’s running for Fuhrer as the GOOPer candidate.

    Hendler’s gonna get a man crush sooooo fast.


  2. ForeverDem Says:

    Guilliani is just another FACIST looking for a BALCONY!!


  3. overlap Says:

    Ya this is like Porn to Right wingers… theyre getting all warm and fuzzy thinking about all the Mexicans they can round up and “re-educate” under Rudy’s reign.


  4. ForeverDem Says:

    Good point BARTLEBEE!! I think you nailed it!! Excellent…


  5. ForeverDem Says:

    Hey Frank M..why don’t you TROLL right on out of here!!


  6. overlap Says:

    It’s stereotypical, of course, but cool in a retro kind of way.

    Comment by Frank M — December 22, 2007 @ 4:09 pm

    Maybe when we gather the Illegals in camps, we can make beautiful iron gates that say “Arbeit Macht Frei”….

    “in a cool retro kind of way”

    Would you like that Franky boy?


  7. Guido OBGYN Lover Says:

    Rudy b4 the mormon and the other jeezus candidate 4 sure. guiliani has that mobster entiltlement complex. small man in big shoes and so on. you identify with that frank?


  8. Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre Says:

    Forgit the Bud Light… Sieg Heils all around… Rudi Julie, Rudi Julie, King of the wild dress-makers…


  9. Veritas Says:

    Rudy was the Monster Mayor whom New Yorkers disliked back then; now that they’ve discovered that they were paying for his trysts with his mistress, they abhore him.

    The more we learn about Rudy and his so-called transparent administration (what a joke with him taking 2,000 boxes of files illegally with him), the more fascist this man appears.

    If we think Bush was bad, Rudy would be our “worst nightmare”.

    A vote for Rudy IS a vote for American FASCISM.


  10. Veritas Says:

    Isn’t it ironically hypocritical that Bill Clinton gets a BJ from a woman and is ostracized by americans for it; Rudy Giuliani had a two year affair while married to Judith Nathan and he’s being considered a candidate for the same office which we impeached Clinton for occupying and erring.

    How far down the Sh!thole have we descended?


  11. Veritas Says:

    correction: while married, he had an affair with Judith Nathan on the New York taxpayer’s dime.


  12. Red Pill Says:

    Damn, that’s hard core. The Nazis are such a versatile historical group…


  13. joe cantwell Says:

    frankie’s opinion is interesting (and honest) but i’d like to know what trolls like jas, chl and captain chuck have to say about this.


  14. tarazan Says:

    The picture is a true description of what Giuliani administration will be. Wars and nothing but wars.

    He surrounded himself with warmongers who dream about World War III, like Podhoretz and others, dreaming about fulfilling their dreams of PNAC manifesto.
    Podhoretz said he is dreaming about bombing Iran…that’s the advisor that Giuliani like to have around.

    Giuliani uses 9/11 as his only tool to sail toward the presidency.

    Give him the ‘No’ ‘No’ when election time arrives.
    America cannot afford this militant mentality path that he is planning to take the country to.


  15. pluege Says:

    a power-hungry, dissent-intolerant authoritarian, obsessed with secrecy and expanding his own power.

    sounds like the perfect sequel to bush…the tyrant bush part II
    .


  16. bilbobaggins Says:

    Hey Frank M..why don’t you TROLL right on out of here!!
    Comment by ForeverDem

    The only way to deal with Francine M is to flag it and then ignore it.


  17. GSD Says:

    I think the rightwing establishment is going to swallow hard and go for McCain.

    Unless of course their beloved Newton Leroy Gingrich decides to ride in on his muddy horse.

    -GSD


  18. bilbobaggins Says:

    How far down the Sh!thole have we descended?
    Comment by Veritas

    Veritas, please don’t include us in that “we”. You probably should have said “How far down the sh!thole has the Republican party descended.


  19. bilbobaggins Says:

    #27: Ok, just flag me - after you’ve looked into the Terms of Use agreement and found me in breach of the rules. Flagging me just because you disagree with my opinions or politics is petty.

    Here are two Terms of Use you violate daily:

    1. Respect other Bloggers - please do not threaten, insult, abuse, intimidate or harass other Blog users.

    Every post you make is an insult to the readers of this blog. You throw out garbage and when you are challenged to prove what you say you either leave or ignore the challenge. You abuse and harass the bloggers here daily by flinging your feces on the wall to see if people will react to you.

    2. Post any content to the Blog that is unlawful, racist, hateful, libelous, defamatory, obscene, or that intentionally discriminates against or harasses particular individuals or groups.

    You post obscene things daily. I find it obscene that you support torture and I’m sure many other posters here find it obscene. It is obscene that you admit you are a fascist and adore Guilini because he is one too.

    And even though it isn’t in violation of the Terms of Use, you are like a gnat flying around our heads buzzing us just to annoy us. If that is not against the Terms of Use, it should be.


  20. bilbobaggins Says:

    Frank isn’t Facist. He just likes to come on here and be “Opposite Man”. He’s just bored.
    Comment by justasking

    I disagree with you. I think that Francine is really a black-hearted fascist Republiscum. I feel very sorry for the people who have to deal with him on a daily basis. It must be a very unpleasant experience for them.


  21. Citizen_of_Earth Says:

    FDR’s 2nd Vice President, Henry Wallace wrote in early 1944 a response to a NY Times questions about Fascism, it is worth to re-read it today:

    “The really dangerous American fascists, are not those who are hooked up directly or indirectly with the Axis. The FBI has its finger on those. The dangerous American fascist is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power.”

    He (Wallace) goes on to say:

    “If we define an American fascist as one who in case of conflict puts money and power ahead of human beings, then there are undoubtedly several million fascists in the United States. There are probably several hundred thousand if we narrow the definition to include only those who in their search for money and power are ruthless and deceitful. … They are patriotic in time of war because it is to their interest to be so, but in time of peace they follow power and the dollar wherever they may lead.”

    Wallace continues:

    “The American fascists are most easily recognized by their deliberate perversion of truth and fact, their newspapers and propaganda carefully cultivate every fissure of disunity, every crack in the common front against fascism. They use every opportunity to impugn democracy.”

    In his acceptance speech, at the 1936 convention in Philadelphia, Wallace said:

    “…out of this modern civilization, economic royalists [have] carved new dynasties…. It was natural and perhaps human that the privileged princes of these new economic dynasties, thirsting for power, reached out for control over government itself. They created a new despotism and wrapped it in the robes of legal sanction…. And as a result the average man once more confronts the problem that faced the Minute Man….”

    Have we learned nothing from history?


  22. bilbobaggins Says:

    What I find the most odd about this is that the American Conservative printed an article written by Glenn Greenwald. He is not exactly conservative…if anything he is very liberal and progressive in his thought. So why did the American Conservative print his article? Inquiring minds need to know.


  23. bilbobaggins Says:

    Have we learned nothing from history?
    Comment by Citizen_of_Earth

    Wow, that is really scary. Everything that was written then describes the Bush Crime Family and the current batch of Republiscums to a T.


  24. RUCerious Says:

    That graphic makes JulieAnnie look positively masculine!


  25. bilbobaggins Says:

    That’s just ridiculous and hateful, but I’m not flagging you because you’re entitled to your opinion.
    Comment by Frank M

    Feel free to flag me Francine. I’m not the gnat here, you are.


  26. chomot Says:

    You guys have to see this.

    http://www6.comcast.net/ news/ articles/ general/ 2007/ 12/ 22/ Hoover.Mass.Arrests/

    Its a good thing Bush was not in charge when Hover thought this one up. a?


  27. bilbobaggins Says:

    So Francine, you seem to be saying that you are here for some reason other than to annoy and harass the people posting here. If that’s the case, why is it that you cut and run every time someone asks to to prove an inane statement that you make? Why don’t you ever provide links to proof of the garbage you post? Why are you even here?


  28. Doc Rock Says:

    Genau! When did they have Cheney-Bush so depicted? Mein Fürher, I can walk!


  29. Perry logan Says:

    Take away a Nazi’s balls and brains, and you’ve got a neocon.


  30. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    You guys look good in Battleship gray.

    Comment by BARTLEBEE — December 22, 2007 @ 4:42 pm

    yeah, but they’d look even better in jumpsuit orange.

    BTW, I was wrong in my earlier post… Frankie has first dibs on the man crush…


  31. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Comment by Frank M — December 22, 2007 @ 5:11 pm

    Actually, Frankie, if enough of us flag you, you’ll be gone…

    Let the flagging begin!!!!


  32. bilbobaggins Says:

    Its a good thing Bush was not in charge when Hover thought this one up. a?
    Comment by chomot

    What makes you think that this is not what Bush is planning on doing when he cancels the 2008 election? Why is Halliburton building secret prisons in the United States?

    http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/ vb/ archive/ index.php/ t-79452.html


  33. bilbobaggins Says:

    They can also ask me to stop posting altogether and, since it’s their site, I will comply. You, Bilbo, I will just ignore from now on.
    Comment by Frank M

    They don’t have to ask you, they will just ban you.

    And, why aren’t you answering my questions in post #48? All you are doing is proving that you are a gnat here to annoy and having no other purpose. That’s why you are still Francine. The day you actually answer a question given to you in an honest and open manner, I will start calling you Frank, until then, you are Francine. And I apologize to the women here for the insult, but I can’t think of anything else to call it.


  34. RUCerious Says:

    Franco, if you’re going to start another “ignore” list, please make sure you put me on, or just get out the old one, I’m sure that I am still on it.


  35. had enough Says:

    Conservative mag depicts Rudy in fascist garb.
    Sad, but this will be appealing to the sheep looking for a daddy.

    Out with the denying health care for profit insurance industries; In with universal health care for all. ‘09


  36. Saint Augustine Says:

    Do you think there will be enough room in those buildings for:

    1. Republicans who took office in 2000 & 2004.
    2. All Bush appointees.
    3. People hired by the Bush administration.
    4. State Department contractors’ executives and boards of directors.
    5. Conservative media pundits.

    Have I missed anyone? Frank, Jason, Charles and The Captain perhaps?


  37. Veritas Says:

    This photo is Rudy, obviously, on steroids since he has the biceps of a 5 year old, a big pot belly, and a hind end shaped like a beer keg. Get a load of his arss when he was the last one to file into the first debate? Good gawd!


  38. Veritas Says:

    Sig Heil, Rudy! We always knew you were a neo-nazi/fascist. Just wait until the people discover the truth about what you did on 911, how complicit you were in it all, etc. You’ll be a fascist in jail.


  39. Veritas Says:

    Snidley Wiplash would have been a better facsimile! All Rudee needs now is a handlebar moustache (and a retainer at night to straight out that whimpy lissssssp, too).


  40. pete Says:

    What I find amazing (amusing?) is that Frank, apparently, doesn’t know the fate of fascists. Here’s a hint: very few of them die of old age.


  41. willyloman Says:

    Conyers does NOT care about Wexler’s Petition to start Cheney impeachment hearings!

    Read the transcript from Democracy Now.

    http://willyloman.wordpress.com/ 2007/ 12/ 22/ from-democracy-now-interview-with-conyers-he-doesnt-care-about-wexlers-petition/

    He will NOT allow impeachment hearings to take place.

    Conyers knows that Pelosi will undercut the efforts of impeachment rather than helping to build a bi-partisan coalition to impeach.

    Conyers knows that Pelosi will again be Speaker of the House next year and she will take him off the Judiciary Committee if he goes against her wishes. It’s a “lose-lose” for him and impeachment.

    Let’s help him and the rest of the members of the House of Representatives by removing an obstructionist Speaker. It can be done and must be done to start the impeachment process.

    http://www.petitiononline.com/everyman/petition.html


  42. RUCerious Says:

    #72 Fascists-R-US.


  43. pablo picasso Says:

    Kudos to Frank M!!!! That’s all i (at least) ask of people: ‘this is what i think, and this is why’.

    Now, in case i missed it…coulda post the second part? Thx!


  44. Veritas Says:

    Willyloman: Thanks for the Conyers link. I’m flabbergasted since Conyers was the first one to gather impeachment evidence beginning with the Downing Street Memo. Then they got to him - some inane chore run by a staff members or something. Since then, Conyers is a shell of his former self. He’s lost his verve, if you ask me.

    I’ll get this petition circulated and suggest that everyone does the same.

    Pelosi is complicit in so many incursions at this point that she needs to step down to avoid further embarrassment. Everyone knows she’s got too many skeletons in her closet to say a peep in the wrong direction.

    Both Reid and Pelosi have become “functionally obsolete” as well as derelect in the specific non-performance of their duties under their oath of office. They should do the honorable thing and both step down or be dismissed by their peers.


  45. Clumberfeet Says:

    Post 9/11 Rudy will make the trains run on time.


  46. stewarjt Says:

    He is known as the lisping fascist among his admirers.


  47. joe cantwell Says:

    i’ve seen some troll proof posts before but this one is the champ!

    (congrats tp)


  48. Jason M. Hendler Says:

    Gulianni isn’t interested in nationalizing any American industries, setting prices for goods and services nor seizing personal property or wealth. People should read the definition of fascist before calling anybody one.

    Read “The Book of Isms: 11th Edition”, which will explain what capitalism, communism, fascism, socialism, libertarianism, etc. are.


  49. Hemlock for Gadflies Says:

    Ist das nicht ein Schnitzelbank?

    The Gauleiter of 9/11 will do more than make the trains run on time.

    He will restore Germania to its former glory!

    (Did I say that out loud? Never mind.)


  50. bilbobaggins Says:

    Anyone besides me notice that Frank M took a powder once I posed some questions to him? Has anyone here ever seen him answer a question or provide proof to back up the garbage he posts?


  51. celtic cynic Says:

    “power-hungry, dissent-intolerant authoritarian, obsessed with secrecy and expanding his own power.”

    Sorta like George W Bush, eh?

    We don’t need another one - ever.


  52. dbadass Says:

    Read “The Book of Isms: 11th Edition”, which will explain what capitalism, communism, fascism, socialism, libertarianism, etc. are.

    Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 22, 2007 @ 7:59 pm

    Cool! We get it! You like this book! I have recently read some good books too. Do you think I am an expert on their topics just because I read them?


  53. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Has anyone here ever seen him answer a question or provide proof to back up the garbage he posts?

    Comment by bilbobaggins — December 22, 2007 @ 8:40 pm

    NEVER… EVER…


  54. republicans hate facts Says:

    Gulianni isn’t interested in nationalizing any American industries, setting prices for goods and services nor seizing personal property or wealth. People should read the definition of fascist before calling anybody one.
    Read “The Book of Isms: 11th Edition”, which will explain what capitalism, communism, fascism, socialism, libertarianism, etc. are.
    Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 22, 2007 @ 7:59 pm

    ROTFL, wow you’re ‘tarded! You really should read the BIG BOOK OF MORONS - you’re on the COVER there NERD-TRON!! ;)


  55. Merlin Says:

    Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 22, 2007 @ 7:59

    Gulianni isn’t interested in nationalizing any American industries, setting prices for goods and services nor seizing personal property or wealth.

    Ah! A Gulianni expert! Just how do you know this? Search through his trash? Well then, mister expert, show us the proof.


  56. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    What’s to say that’s not supposed to be a Nazi uniform in the picture?


  57. Lefty Patriot Says:

    Jason Hitler knows nazis, and likes Rudely.


  58. joe cantwell Says:

    Jason Hitler knows nazis, and likes Rudely.

    Comment by Lefty Patriot — December 22, 2007 @ 11:25 pm

    forget it. jas has run away. he gives up so easily,i don’t think he’s feeling well.


  59. DigDug Says:


    People should read the definition of fascist before calling anybody one.

    Read “The Book of Isms: 11th Edition”, which will explain what capitalism, communism, fascism, socialism, libertarianism, etc. are.

    Comment by Jason M. Hendler

    Tell that to The American Conservative magazine.


  60. DieNowForPeace Says:

    Yea well, “nya-nya”, I’ve been on Jake/Frank’s ignore list for months!


  61. JPV Says:

    Giuliani “developed a reputation as a power-hungry, dissent-intolerant authoritarian, obsessed with secrecy and expanding his own power.”

    Don’t we already have one of those as Vice President already?

    Do we really need to endure another one?


  62. JPV Says:

    I’m a fascist, not afraid to admit it and I support Rudy. Even though that picture and the related article are critical of him, I kind of like that cover. It’s stereotypical, of course, but cool in a retro kind of way.

    Comment by Frank M

    So are thumbscrews, care to try some on? I’d be more than happy to oblige you.


  63. Sabyen91 Says:

    DieNowForPeace. I was on his Buscemi list before registration. I imagine it is only a matter of time before my registered name is.


  64. Sabyen91 Says:

    I really think Frank M. is an over the top fake. I have seen a couple of posts by him that would play well only on Stormfront.


  65. tokin librul Says:

    Glenn Greenwald has a piece in the magazine arguing that, as NYC mayor, Giuliani “developed a reputation as a power-hungry, dissent-intolerant authoritarian, obsessed with secrecy and expanding his own power.”

    What on earth could an “American Fascist,” per se, find in that characterization of Ghoul-iani to which to object? Sounds exactly like the current incumbent, and the GOP since at LEAST 1968…


  66. tokin librul Says:

    Btw: Fascism = Revolt of the Elites against the People.


  67. Clemsy Diggs Says:

    Hey Citizen of Earth, I see your Wallace quote and raise you a Lincoln:

    “I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed.”

    Old Abe foresaw the Guilded Age. Works just as well for our Guilded Age II.



  68. tarazan Says:

    Bonito Giuiliani….


  69. Nevar Says:

    Ill Ghouliani…


  70. Clumberfeet Says:

    Rudy Mussolini will protect the homeland, round up all the terrorists and make the planes run on time.
    He’s also quite the swordsman when it comes to the ladies.


  71. OxyCon Says:

    Rudy is Bush on steroids and with a few more brain cells.


  72. Gregor Samsa Says:

    “it’s interesting that paleoconservatives feel this strongly against Rudy.”

    “Against”? Since when do conservatives have a problem with Fascism?

    If anything, I’d think they rather like the idea of a one-party rule to quell dissent, a Supreme Leader, a personality cult, militarism, and a set of laws that benefit the wealthy and powerful. After all, that’s what the Republican party has devolved into lately.



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