Comments on: Snow: Situation In Iraq Was ‘Sour’ For Only ‘15 Months’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:44:30 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Bad Eye http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4204560 Bad Eye Tue, 25 Dec 2007 16:56:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/#comment-4204560 <em>Snow: The critics quite often have criticisms but they don’t have recommendations. </em> No, Tony, the critics often have recommendations that you and the other asses in the White House do not like. Snow: The critics quite often have criticisms but they don’t have recommendations.

No, Tony, the critics often have recommendations that you and the other asses in the White House do not like.

]]> By: OxyCon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4204091 OxyCon Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:06:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/#comment-4204091 What do you expext from a crackhead? Tony Snow is a "Freeper", that's all you need to know about him. Freepers are giant scumbags. What do you expext from a crackhead?
Tony Snow is a “Freeper”, that’s all you need to know about him.
Freepers are giant scumbags.

]]> By: Keith http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4204082 Keith Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:59:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/#comment-4204082 Iraq announces there are now 5,000,000 orphans! Does that come under the "sour" part or the "success" part, Tony? How's that for family values? Iraq announces there are now 5,000,000 orphans! Does that come under the “sour” part or the “success” part, Tony? How’s that for family values?

]]> By: Duck Soup http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4204015 Duck Soup Mon, 24 Dec 2007 13:49:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/#comment-4204015 Snow was such a chearleader on Iraq. I don't recall him ever stopping his rah rah sis boom bahs. Now he says things were sour for over a year. HE IS ADMITTING HE LIED THROUGH HIS TEETH. We all know he is a liar. But this may be the first time he has, albeit unwittingly, admitted it so brazenly. When can we trust the White House to say what it really believes versus lying with overly optimistic chearleading on situations it knows are "sour"? Snow was such a chearleader on Iraq. I don’t recall him ever stopping his rah rah sis boom bahs. Now he says things were sour for over a year.

HE IS ADMITTING HE LIED THROUGH HIS TEETH.

We all know he is a liar. But this may be the first time he has, albeit unwittingly, admitted it so brazenly.

When can we trust the White House to say what it really believes versus lying with overly optimistic chearleading on situations it knows are “sour”?

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4203985 RUCerious Mon, 24 Dec 2007 04:17:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/#comment-4203985 And a great WaPo article today on Sunni "awakening" group about to get it on with Shiites, pissed about a bombing in their neighborhood. Can't get "permission" of US forces to go after bombers in their own neighborhood. Surge hard at work, how long will it take to create a lasting peace? And a great WaPo article today on Sunni “awakening” group about to get it on with Shiites, pissed about a bombing in their neighborhood. Can’t get “permission” of US forces to go after bombers in their own neighborhood.
Surge hard at work, how long will it take to create a lasting peace?

]]> By: pete http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4203970 pete Mon, 24 Dec 2007 02:51:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/#comment-4203970 Comment by MapleStreet — December 23, 2007 @ 9:06 pm This may be the epitaph of the Bush administration. These scum will go to their graves believing they were "right" about everything. "If I don't provide a signed confession? I didn't do anything wrong". Comment by MapleStreet — December 23, 2007 @ 9:06 pm

This may be the epitaph of the Bush administration. These scum will go to their graves believing they were “right” about everything.

“If I don’t provide a signed confession? I didn’t do anything wrong”.

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4203946 MapleStreet Mon, 24 Dec 2007 02:06:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/#comment-4203946 I can't believe he is still touting that no one could have forseen the secterian violence ! Could one of the conservative apologists on this list at least give a cognizant reason why after the last 1500 years history in this region, and especially after the post-World War European attempts to control this region, that no one could have forseen the whole Shia-Sunni thing ? (Not to mention Kurds who have mutually been on the wrong end of genocide by both - and- not to mention the possible parallels in European history of both the Catholic / Protestant thng and the Christian / Jewish thing ?) I can’t believe he is still touting that no one could have forseen the secterian violence !

Could one of the conservative apologists on this list at least give a cognizant reason why after the last 1500 years history in this region, and especially after the post-World War European attempts to control this region, that no one could have forseen the whole Shia-Sunni thing ? (Not to mention Kurds who have mutually been on the wrong end of genocide by both – and- not to mention the possible parallels in European history of both the Catholic / Protestant thng and the Christian / Jewish thing ?)

]]> By: sacopenapa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4203895 sacopenapa Mon, 24 Dec 2007 00:28:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/#comment-4203895 UN report: Two million Iraqi children face disease, poverty! UN report: Two million Iraqi children face disease, poverty!

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4203893 RUCerious Mon, 24 Dec 2007 00:27:14 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/#comment-4203893 Give Snowy some lemons, watch him make dogshet out of it. Give Snowy some lemons, watch him make dogshet out of it.

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4203888 bilbobaggins Mon, 24 Dec 2007 00:18:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/#comment-4203888 <em>Iraqi oil delegation due in Tehran Dec. 28 TEHRAN – Iraq will dispatch a delegation comprising 30 Oil Ministry officials to Tehran on Dec. 28. Mehdi Salih Alvan, the head of the delegation, said the aim behind the visit is to get familiar with Iran’s capabilities and introduce Iraq’s investment opportunities in the oil sector. Iraq welcomed the invitation of Iran’s Chamber of Commerce, Industries, and Mines’ (ICCIM) and will be here from Dec. 28 to Jan. 4 Comment by Bush Cover Ups</em> Wow, that' going to really piss Bush off. Wouldn't it be funny for Iran and Iraq to make friends and go together on oil deals. That will definitely require a "Heck of a good job" for Bush. Iraqi oil delegation due in Tehran Dec. 28
TEHRAN – Iraq will dispatch a delegation comprising 30 Oil Ministry officials to Tehran on Dec. 28.
Mehdi Salih Alvan, the head of the delegation, said the aim behind the visit is to get familiar with Iran’s capabilities and introduce Iraq’s investment opportunities in the oil sector.
Iraq welcomed the invitation of Iran’s Chamber of Commerce, Industries, and Mines’ (ICCIM) and will be here from Dec. 28 to Jan. 4
Comment by Bush Cover Ups

Wow, that’ going to really piss Bush off. Wouldn’t it be funny for Iran and Iraq to make friends and go together on oil deals. That will definitely require a “Heck of a good job” for Bush.

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4203885 bilbobaggins Mon, 24 Dec 2007 00:15:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/#comment-4203885 <em>In any case, the just-renewed UN mandate will expire in December, 2008. At the point, without a U.S.-Iraq agreement, the occupation will be illegal.</em> It may not take that long. It looks like it is illegal right now because Maliki did not include the Iraqi parliament in on the re-certification. The Iraqi constitution says that he can't do that alone: <em> In late 2007, Washington and London again asked the Security Council to renew the MNF mandate, for an extension of another year. Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki wrote to the Council to request a mandate renewal without referring the matter to parliament for ratification, as required by the Iraqi constitution. A majority of parliamentarians also had written a letter in April to Security Council members calling for a timetable for MNF withdrawal. The cabinet's actions were unilateral, unconstitutional and illegal. Iraqi parliamentarians wrote another letter to Security Council members immediately before Council action. Further, the US House of Representatives scheduled a hearing on the matter asking "Is the Iraqi Parliament Being Ignored?" But on December 18, under heavy pressure from Washington, the Council voted unanimously to extend the mandate for a further year.</em> You gotta love the Bush Crime Family. They hate the UN, but they are willing to use them when it suits their needs. It's too bad that there are a bunch of wimps on the UN Security Council. Anyway, if the Iraqi Parliament (the only elected body in the Iraqi government) wants to take down this deal, they can. But it remains to be seen if they have the courage to act, especially when they are talking about taking another month vacation. In any case, the just-renewed UN mandate will expire in December, 2008. At the point, without a U.S.-Iraq agreement, the occupation will be illegal.

It may not take that long. It looks like it is illegal right now because Maliki did not include the Iraqi parliament in on the re-certification. The Iraqi constitution says that he can’t do that alone:

In late 2007, Washington and London again asked the Security Council to renew the MNF mandate, for an extension of another year. Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki wrote to the Council to request a mandate renewal without referring the matter to parliament for ratification, as required by the Iraqi constitution. A majority of parliamentarians also had written a letter in April to Security Council members calling for a timetable for MNF withdrawal. The cabinet’s actions were unilateral, unconstitutional and illegal.

Iraqi parliamentarians wrote another letter to Security Council members immediately before Council action. Further, the US House of Representatives scheduled a hearing on the matter asking “Is the Iraqi Parliament Being Ignored?” But on December 18, under heavy pressure from Washington, the Council voted unanimously to extend the mandate for a further year.

You gotta love the Bush Crime Family. They hate the UN, but they are willing to use them when it suits their needs. It’s too bad that there are a bunch of wimps on the UN Security Council.

Anyway, if the Iraqi Parliament (the only elected body in the Iraqi government) wants to take down this deal, they can. But it remains to be seen if they have the courage to act, especially when they are talking about taking another month vacation.

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4203883 bilbobaggins Mon, 24 Dec 2007 00:08:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/#comment-4203883 <em>PS congratualations to the real winners in Iraq - well done Iran Comment by Bush Cover Ups</em> Why are you congratulating Iran for a job well done? They didn't do anything. We did it for them. Congratulations Bush for destroying an enemy of Iran. PS congratualations to the real winners in Iraq – well done Iran
Comment by Bush Cover Ups

Why are you congratulating Iran for a job well done? They didn’t do anything. We did it for them. Congratulations Bush for destroying an enemy of Iran.

]]> By: kasinca http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4203862 kasinca Sun, 23 Dec 2007 23:49:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/#comment-4203862 Tony McSnowjob = 24% moron (lying, bootlicking, troglodyte). Tony McSnowjob = 24% moron (lying, bootlicking, troglodyte).

]]> By: wisedup http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4203854 wisedup Sun, 23 Dec 2007 23:42:00 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/#comment-4203854 It's over tony, you can STOP lieing now. It’s over tony, you can STOP lieing now.

]]> By: PeterW http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4203838 PeterW Sun, 23 Dec 2007 23:24:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/#comment-4203838 #28 - the ISG, yeah, that big media deal that disappeared down the memory hole the instant that Bush announced his "surge". The grownups were going to save Bush, and he would have to listen. But instead, like a petulant child he did the exact opposite, and Republicans and their enablers among the "serious" blowhards in the beltway media had to pretend that the ISG recommendations had never happened. #28 – the ISG, yeah, that big media deal that disappeared down the memory hole the instant that Bush announced his “surge”. The grownups were going to save Bush, and he would have to listen. But instead, like a petulant child he did the exact opposite, and Republicans and their enablers among the “serious” blowhards in the beltway media had to pretend that the ISG recommendations had never happened.

]]> By: Nevar http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4203835 Nevar Sun, 23 Dec 2007 23:22:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/#comment-4203835 It's only blowing snow.... It’s only blowing snow….

]]> By: Bush Cover Ups http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4203834 Bush Cover Ups Sun, 23 Dec 2007 23:22:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/#comment-4203834 The United States and Iraq are supposed to conclude that accord by July, 2008 what the same day Bush wants more funding for Iraq the democrats are in this hook ,line and sinker The United States and Iraq are supposed to conclude that accord by July, 2008

what the same day Bush wants more funding for Iraq

the democrats are in this hook ,line and sinker

]]> By: Bush Cover Ups http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4203832 Bush Cover Ups Sun, 23 Dec 2007 23:21:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/#comment-4203832 Security Council renews mandate of multinational force in Iraq for another year 18 December 2007 – The Security Council today extended the mandate of the United States-led multinational force (MNF) in Iraq by another year, until the end of 2008, after a formal request from the Government of the Middle East country. MNF’s mandate can be terminated earlier if desired by the Iraqi Government. http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=25122&Cr=iraq&Cr1= <b>Now this is Bushes plans The next battle will be the U.S.-Iraq treaty that will govern the long-term presence of U.S. forces in Iraq, including possible permanent bases. The United States and Iraq are supposed to conclude that accord by July, 2008. That accord will be subject to parliamentary approval, says Maliki--but who knows? He might try to impose that one, too. In any case, the just-renewed UN mandate will expire in December, 2008. At the point, without a U.S.-Iraq agreement, the occupation will be illegal. If Maliki does submit it to parliament, what are the chances that body will approve it by December? Slim to none. And what happens if they don't? Stay tuned. </b> Security Council renews mandate of multinational force in Iraq for another year

18 December 2007 – The Security Council today extended the mandate of the United States-led multinational force (MNF) in Iraq by another year, until the end of 2008, after a formal request from the Government of the Middle East country.

MNF’s mandate can be terminated earlier if desired by the Iraqi Government.

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=25122&Cr=iraq&Cr1=

Now this is Bushes plans

The next battle will be the U.S.-Iraq treaty that will govern the long-term presence of U.S. forces in Iraq, including possible permanent bases. The United States and Iraq are supposed to conclude that accord by July, 2008. That accord will be subject to parliamentary approval, says Maliki–but who knows? He might try to impose that one, too.

In any case, the just-renewed UN mandate will expire in December, 2008. At the point, without a U.S.-Iraq agreement, the occupation will be illegal. If Maliki does submit it to parliament, what are the chances that body will approve it by December? Slim to none. And what happens if they don’t? Stay tuned.

]]> By: tarazan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4203829 tarazan Sun, 23 Dec 2007 23:19:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/#comment-4203829 Snow: Criticism but no recommendations...!!! How about J. Baker report..'The Iraq study Group' prepared last year. and recommeded: 1.Withdrawal from Iraq. 2. Talk to Iran and Syria. Bush answer was :The Surge , with more troops sent to Iraq and more money to spend on Iraq war). Snow: Criticism but no recommendations…!!!

How about J. Baker report..’The Iraq study Group’ prepared last year. and recommeded:

1.Withdrawal from Iraq.
2. Talk to Iran and Syria.

Bush answer was :The Surge , with more troops sent to Iraq and more money to spend on Iraq war).

]]> By: Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4203823 Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver Sun, 23 Dec 2007 23:10:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/23/snow-iraq-15-months/#comment-4203823 The Abominable SnowJob Man of the Him-A-Liar The Abominable SnowJob Man of the Him-A-Liar

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