Townsend: fear of subpoenas ‘crippling’ White House.
By on Dec 24th, 2007 at 8:00 pm
Townsend: fear of subpoenas ‘crippling’ White House.
In an interview with the NY Times, President Bush’s outgoing homeland security aide Francis Fragos Townsend said she was concerned about “the acrimony” that hangs over Bush’s last year in office. “I find it both offensive and crippling,” she said. “When both career people and political people are worried about getting subpoenaed, it’s hard to get a lot accomplished.” Steve Benen responds, “Oh, those poor, poor White House officials. If only Congress would go back to ignoring the administration’s scandalous, sometimes criminal, behavior, the president and his aides would find it much easier to go about their business without the fear of accountability.”
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If only those subpoenas ever amounted to anything. I swear, to get the public’s reaction to any testimony the white house gives, Bush himself would have to rape a dog on the white house lawn in a dress. And even then, the KGB, er, RNC would cast it off as stress from being such a great defender of freedom -_-
December 24th, 2007 at 8:07 pmSatan can only rule for so long. For the past 7 years the White House and staff with the GOP Law Makers
December 24th, 2007 at 8:10 pmhave been openly committing crimes while using
the Republican Christian Right. Yes the Pastors are
lining their pockets and lying to all those who think
their praying to God. As we’re seen God has not
blessed America since Bush/Cheney took office.
As those who have woke up from the lie, let’s hope
God does forgive Americans for following Satan.
With his blessing and support the White House
will be brought down and the rest of the GOP
criminals with them. Make that your Christmas
prayer.
I know that we have our head wrapped around this war but please don’t forget the elderly this Christmas. While they may not be war heroes or soilders, they are our parents and the people to pave the way for us.
I feel I have given enough to this war and that America has abandoned the elderly.
I see it everyday of my life.
Jack Jett
December 24th, 2007 at 8:13 pmhttp://www.yabbadabbahubbado.com
“I find it both offensive and crippling,†she said. “When both career people and political people are worried about getting subpoenaed, it’s hard to get a lot accomplished.â€
December 24th, 2007 at 8:14 pmI find it both offensive and crippling you empty headed bimbo , that you and the rest of your goddamn brood have gotten nothing accomplished over a 7 year period , save enriching the already wealthy ………
….and to all a good night.
December 24th, 2007 at 8:14 pmFear?
Fear not fear! Do what is right!
December 24th, 2007 at 8:20 pmWhen I break alot of laws and tortue the F@ck out of people and shred the Geneva Copnventions….
you know…..** sniff snifff **
I feel worried too.
Whats a dictator to do these days? huh?
December 24th, 2007 at 8:32 pm**tiny violin playing for Frances**
December 24th, 2007 at 8:42 pmHere’s a thought, do your job and don’t break any laws. If you can’t do your job without breaking any laws, quit and let the grown ups clean up your mess.
\Merry Christmas everyone.
December 24th, 2007 at 8:46 pmPro Tip,
Felons are supposed to fear subpoenas.
What is it again that the administration has been saying about wiretapping? Oh, yes. That’s it. If you aren’t doing anything wrong…
We now resume our regular programming.
December 24th, 2007 at 8:47 pmThere’s an easy way to not to have to worry about being subpoenaed: Don’t break the law.
December 24th, 2007 at 8:48 pmI am not sure it takes all that much effort to ignore all of the subpoenas that they have so far. If they are worried, then i suppose she is suggesting that someone is going to be made a scapegoat for refusing to comply with the dozens of requests, subpoenas, and FOIAs. They have so much yet to destroy don’t they???
December 24th, 2007 at 8:52 pmMan up, Francis.
December 24th, 2007 at 9:10 pmIn the words of Michelle Malkin:
Boo frickin’ hoo!
-GSD
Losers.
December 24th, 2007 at 9:11 pmaWWWWWW, she’s doing what the right-wing does best, portray themselves as victims…
December 24th, 2007 at 9:17 pmMs. Townsend is unintentionally expressing how much of the administration’s time and our taxpayer dollars are now going to cover up their incompetence and lawbreaking, and further exposing their completely self-centered arrogance about it. It’s ironic that a lot of these subpoenas of which Ms. Townsend complains are about the administration not doing what the taxpayers were paying them to do in the first place. As Pres. Bush would undoubtedly agree, “Covering up is hard work.â€
Ms. Townsend should also note, as they did at the Carpetbagger report,
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/14031.html
December 24th, 2007 at 9:20 pmWell! I’m convinced. Those bad ol’ Democrats should stop persecuting our glorious leaders./sarc off
G’night good people. Peace and joy to you and your’s.
You too trolls.
December 24th, 2007 at 9:46 pmOh poor Frankie — cry baby. I think you and the rest of the Bushies are beyond being offensive. I also note you said that you stayed out of the fray because Bushie didn’t want you involved in “partisan politics.” Very interesting comment and says a lot.
December 24th, 2007 at 9:49 pmWhatever is happening to these a**holes now is more than richly deserved.
Funny how when you and the people you work with break the law those darn subpoenas come in. How inconvenient. We should just ignore all these scandals by the Fox Republicans like we should have ignored Watergate. And I’ve got this great bridge to sell you that connects Manhattan and Brooklyn. It is over a hundred years old . . .
December 24th, 2007 at 10:02 pmThe beauty of Bush is the gift that just keeps giving.
The decider decided that the Constitution is toilet paper. He decided that, never having served, lives lost in Iraq, rehabilitate his father’s debacle (mind you, his father had none, he has a monster), the decider would be nothing if he drank whisky . . . but downing a brew or two ain’t a problem when a “recovering alcoholic is making decisions about bombing Iran,” too much to go into . . . but one way or another . . .
As a nation, we are facing the biggest financial meltdown since the depression . . . “It will make ‘29 look like a burp.”
Sh-t. Twenty-nine like a burp.
Get your grip. Get your grip in cash.
December 24th, 2007 at 10:11 pmAs always, the WH fails to recognize its own complicity in the fact that nobody trusts the WH.
December 24th, 2007 at 10:11 pmMaybe we’re barking up the wrong tree. In order to get the investigations of Cheney and Bush that we all want so much, and that Pelosi is blocking, perhaps, we should first investigate Pelosi.
Pelosi is the great stumbling block. I’m an independent and actually support her leadership, but I have serious doubts about her leadership. Investigate her first and quickly. She is truly the stumbling block. Why?
December 24th, 2007 at 10:19 pmJesus, isn’t a central tenet of the Bush administration’s war on terrorism that if you’re not guilty, you should have no problem with someone secretly looking into your phone calls, e-mails, the books you buy and borrow, etc.? Well, then I have to ask — if Townsend and her fellow “loyal Bushies†have done nothing wrong, then why do they fear oversight?
In a trial, Townsend’s words and actions would be considered “consciousness of guilt†and could be used to demonstrate that she had actually committed a criminal act.
December 24th, 2007 at 10:24 pmMs. Townsend, who in her handwritten resignation letter compared Mr. Bush to George Washington
Now let’s see?………….They have the same first name…………………………….
Bush has been compared to Washington, Hitler, Churchill, Satan, Nixon, Jesus, Rutherford B Hayes, Trotsky, Giuliani, and a drunken bartender…er….drunken barroom patron.
December 24th, 2007 at 10:29 pmShe is truly the stumbling block. Why?
Comment by rockyroad — December 24, 2007 @ 10:19 pm
AIPAC
December 24th, 2007 at 10:30 pmA word to those checking the leadership . . . . in the ne year . . . things we don’t care about:
#1 Wrong doings by family members;
#2 Wrong doings that have to do with personal failings (divorce, DUI, smoking weed, listening to rock, being human);
#3 Statements to the effect that, “I worry that my grand kids will never have trees to hug.”
Things that should share the be-Jesus out of you:
#1 Karl Rove is my idol.
#2 Who needs a license, I can shoot crippled dove.
$3 My name is dub’ya, I decide, I rule.
December 24th, 2007 at 10:32 pmI am a dove.
Merry Christmas! and a Happy New Year!
Thank you all at Think Progress.
Thank you for the gift of thinking!
Cheers!!!
December 24th, 2007 at 10:36 pm“IT’S JUST A GODDAMN PIECE OF PAPER!” – gw’s feelings regarding the Constitution.
December 24th, 2007 at 10:40 pm#25
Sorry to be unclear:
I respect those who rock.
Greatful Dead . . . Priceless (You make me sing)
Lenny Kravitz . . .ooh (You make me pant).
Jimmy Buffett . . .yes! let’s go sail! (I just love you)
Today, I just want to be better. Merry Christmas.
December 24th, 2007 at 10:49 pmHere’s a thought, do your job and don’t break any laws. If you can’t do your job without breaking any laws, quit and let the grown ups clean up your mess.
The thing is that it is not even “His” job. He had to steal an election and be made president in order to break more laws and trample all over the American Constitution and the Geneva Convetion… It was never “His” job!
December 24th, 2007 at 11:10 pmJustme #9 wrote:
Felons are supposed to fear subpoenas.
Bobwurst #8 wrote:
…do your job and don’t break any laws. If you can’t do your job without breaking any laws, quit and let the grown ups clean up your mess.
—
Many more repeated similar sentiments. Thanks and happy holidays to all.
I could not agree more. When it comes to erosion of civil liberties by the Bush administration the litany of excuses from the right proclaim that if one has done nothing wrong they have nothing to fear. So why is the right so challenged at the prospect of abiding by the same strictures?
December 25th, 2007 at 12:28 amAre you sure she wasn’t just riffing off of something from the last season of the Sopranos?
December 25th, 2007 at 2:26 amThe resistance movement in Britain
The corruption of British politics by the ‘deep penetration’ of the one-issue guys, the ‘committed Jews’, has been expressly noted and the protest movement has begun. Meanwhile, the most infamous of the committed Jews has apparently been dating a woman alleged to be a Holocaust denier, which, when you think about it, makes perfect sense.
http://xymphora.blogspot.com/
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/5111
December 25th, 2007 at 4:51 amFrannie, Freaky Franny
“I find it both offensive and crippling,†she said. “When both career people and political people are worried about getting subpoenaed, it’s hard to get a lot accomplished.â€
We find it offensive and crippling to our nation to have both career people and political people who have performed criminal acts in their jobs, and have to be subpoenad to force them to tell the damn truth about their malfeasances.
December 25th, 2007 at 5:52 amRemember the hundreds of subpoenas issued to the Clinton Administration–for no reason whatsoever?
December 25th, 2007 at 6:18 ambush directs all the administration people to ignore Congressional subpoenas anyway, so this can be nothing but crocodile tears.
December 25th, 2007 at 9:20 am.
How can a White House administration composed of loyal Bushies who have faithfully “followed orders” and who have fully believed in the virtuous and honorable actions and policies of “The Decider” suddenly feel it’s necessary to worry about legitimate oversight? Do they believe they did something illegal and have something to hide? Do they believe Mr. Bush and or Mr. Cheney would be angry with them if they had to provide truthful testimony about what they did? Do they believe the Bush Republican Party would abandon them to fend for themselves after years of steadfast unquestioning service? Or do they believe they now must answer for “their” actions in a “legal” arena where the rules of law take precedence over the spin, lies and cover-ups that have protected them in a political arena? What’s crippling them is the fear of legitimate accountability that will force them to answer to the rules and prescribed consequences of law that all other Americans are required to live and perform by.
December 25th, 2007 at 9:27 amTo Reid, Pelosi and all the Gang,
See, the White House is paralyzed by the fear of supoenas. Just the opposite of your fears. Proper oversight and threat of investigation has a positive effect for the country. They are like children who need guidance and supervision. Bring it on.
December 25th, 2007 at 9:40 amI don’t understand Townsend’s concern regarding a subpoena. Some in the Whitehouse have simply refused to show up as requested. Nearly all of the others have had some kind of states secret blanket thrown over their testimony. I don’t recall is another good hedge. So, what is Townsend’s fear all about. Is she looking ahead to 2009?
December 25th, 2007 at 9:53 amMerry Christmas Moonbats.
*bert
*
Comment by BERT CONVY — December 25, 2007 @ 9:52 am
Pretty F-in’ pathertic, Bertie. Yer side is going’ down in flames, and yer the best they can muster up?
No wonder more ‘n more people are refusing to admit they were EVER registerd GOOPers. Keep up the good work! Yer doin’ our job fer us (burying the GOOP ever deeper every day!)
Merry X-mas LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSER!!!
December 25th, 2007 at 9:57 amLet’s cripple the White House before those criminals totally cripple the USA and overheat the globe.
December 25th, 2007 at 10:05 amMerry Christmas and other seasons greetings to all!
Yeah, it does preoccupy one’s thinking if one expects to be subpoenaed to testify about secretive criminal activity at the highet levels of government.
December 25th, 2007 at 10:29 amSo what does Ms. Townsend want for Christmas — that these nasty committees would ignore the cabal in the White House and just leave them alone to continue their destruction of the Constitution; the supression of the middle class, the negligence of the poor and the sick, the elderly and the children; the swaggering of American authority worldwide; the refusal to cooperate with other nations in eliminating global warming; and their damnable arrrogance in all things.
Well, Frances, you may see your wishes in fact, at least for now, but the day is coming when justice will prevail.
off topic:
Independent poll, Dennis Kucinich scores 76.7% for Democratic Party nomination, Ron Paul scores 93% for Republican party nomination.
Looks like the voters are not falling for the media’s attempt to “stack the deck” with the election, so far.
Happy Holidays to all.
December 25th, 2007 at 10:35 ambert’s wishing for a Santa Claus to give him a 4th reich, since he’s had it with Aemrican democracy, and hates the will of the people. Poor bert, out of touch, out of the majority, and out of time. The GOP is flushed, and now swirling the bowl. Buh-bye, bertie!
December 25th, 2007 at 10:36 amComment by BERT CONVY — December 25, 2007 @ 10:12 am
Yippie Ki Yay! I don’t mean to take you from your dumbass hard-on white boy movies but I was wondering how you felt about the innane investigations of Whitewater, TravelGate, ChinaGate, and the assorted other squanderings of time, money, and effort which typified the greatest witch hunts in modern US history?
December 25th, 2007 at 10:37 amoff topic:
Independent poll, Dennis Kucinich scores 76.7% for Democratic Party nomination, Ron Paul scores 93% for Republican party nomination.
Looks like the voters are not falling for the media’s attempt to “stack the deck†with the election, so far.
Happy Holidays to all.
Comment by Wayne — December 25, 2007 @ 10:35 am
Certainly shows that the Republicans are ineducable, and moving rapidly towards unelectable.
December 25th, 2007 at 10:37 amWhitewater, TravelGate, ChinaGate, and the assorted other squanderings of time, money, and effort which typified the greatest witch hunts in modern US history?
Comment by dbadass — December 25, 2007 @ 10:37 am
You mean the $50 million worht of investigations that resulted in zero indictments? those are facts, and not relevant to bert and the brainwashed, barely functioning lunatic right wing fringe. the few of them stilll hanging on show up here to scream into the void they have created for themselves, since nobody in the real world has any use for them.
December 25th, 2007 at 10:39 amMerry Christmas Moonbats.
Comment by BERT CONVY — December 25, 2007 @ 10:12 am
Merry “One Finger Salute” to you, Freakazoid
December 25th, 2007 at 10:40 amCertainly shows that the Republicans are ineducable, and moving rapidly towards unelectable.
Comment by Lefty Patriot — December 25, 2007 @ 10:37 am
Notice the numbers in the Poll.
80,153 voted for Democrats, 25,269 for Republicans, 314 for Green party, and 909 for the “None of the Above” party =)
Interesting…..
December 25th, 2007 at 10:50 amAre you tired of all this BS? Then don’t vote for anyone who doesn’t pledge a new, thorough 9/11 investigation. That immediately takes Clinton and Obama off the list. Not sure about Edwards. But Kucinich is trying to reopen the investigation NOW! And Ron Paul said he would do the same. Save your country. Vote for someone who cares about this phony war on terror and the manipulation of the population.
December 25th, 2007 at 10:58 amI am sure it has been said, but if they didn’t do things that were illegal, then they wouldn’t need to worry about subpoenas. A concept so easy a retarded monkey could figure it out.
December 25th, 2007 at 11:07 amPlus they indited one minor official because that’s all they could get for a crime that never happened.
Uh, hate to school your dumb ass, but congress doesn’t indict (note correct spelling for future reference) except in impeachment.
Don’t see any moon bats around, except at full moon.
December 25th, 2007 at 11:08 amGet Bent Bertie.
Merry Christmas to you Nancy and to all the natives of Stupidity that appointed you, have a happy new year.
*bert
*
Comment by BERT CONVY — December 25, 2007 @ 10:12 am
Uh oh. Someone didn’t even get coal in his stocking this morning. Poor, bitter Republican left stranded and thrashing on the mudflats of destiny. The tide has shifted, Bert, and the crabs will be munching on the carcass of the Republic Party. This would be a good time to pretend you were never really a GOOPer.
December 25th, 2007 at 11:20 amMerry Christmas to all of you decent Americans (and our friends). I’d give you all a blessing but I’m missing anything suitable for trolls. May the rest of you have a safe and happy season.
December 25th, 2007 at 11:21 amI’m missing anything suitable for trolls. May the rest of you have a safe and happy season.
Comment by gummitch — December 25, 2007 @ 11:21 am
Oh, I’ve got something suitable for the trolls, alrighty!
December 25th, 2007 at 11:29 amIt’s not the sub poenas that’s scaring these sleazebags… it’s the PRISON SENTENCES that might result from the sub poenas that they’re afraid of.
December 25th, 2007 at 11:30 amAre you tired of all this BS? Then don’t vote for anyone who doesn’t pledge a new, thorough 9/11 investigation. That immediately takes Clinton and Obama off the list. Not sure about Edwards. But Kucinich is trying to reopen the investigation NOW! And Ron Paul said he would do the same. Save your country. Vote for someone who cares about this phony war on terror and the manipulation of the population.
Comment by brently — December 25, 2007 @ 10:58 am
In a real world and not Bizarro World, the race in 2008 would be Ron Paul vs Dennis Kucinich. They don’t have enough dirt, a rock jaw, be able to say “911″ over and over, are an AIPAC female, war posturing Black Man, fundamentalist crackpot, a tortured sad Vietnam Vet, or a grade-c actor. The corporate and government run media is going to put Hillary vs Mitt, regardless of what We The People want. Who would ever think that the two staunchest defenders of The Constitution, Paul and Kucinich, would be relegated to a “fringe” zone, created by defense, oil, and pharmaceuticals?
December 25th, 2007 at 11:31 amI’m missing anything suitable for trolls. May the rest of you have a safe and happy season.
Comment by gummitch — December 25, 2007 @ 11:21 am
Oh, I’ve got something suitable for the trolls, alrighty!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — December 25, 2007 @ 11:29 am
My Merry “One Finger Salute” was for all the trolls, not just freakazoid Bert =)
** Halloween has “Trick or Treat”, shouldn’t Christmas have “Trick or Drink”?
December 25th, 2007 at 11:32 amThe tide has shifted, Bert, and the crabs will be munching on the carcass of the Republic Party. This would be a good time to pretend you were never really a GOOPer.
Comment by gummitch — December 25, 2007 @ 11:20 am
This “Bert” is probably one of the same people who quietly removed their “George Bush is Lord” bumper stickers in the middle of the night, and replaced them with yellow ribbons.
December 25th, 2007 at 11:34 amConyers does NOT care about Wexler’s Petition to start Cheney impeachment hearings!
Read the transcript from Democracy Now.
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/from-democracy-now-interview-with-conyers-he-doesnt-care-about-wexlers-petition/
He will NOT allow impeachment hearings to take place.
Conyers knows that Pelosi will undercut the efforts of impeachment rather than helping to build a bi-partisan coalition to impeach.
Conyers knows that Pelosi will again be Speaker of the House next year and she will take him off the Judiciary Committee if he goes against her wishes. It’s a “lose-lose†for him and impeachment.
Let’s help him and the rest of the members of the House of Representatives by removing an obstructionist Speaker. It can be done and must be done to start the impeachment process.
http://www.petitiononline.com/everyman/petition.html
December 25th, 2007 at 11:37 amComment by Wayne — December 25, 2007 @ 11:32 am
Ever see that great picture of Johnny Cash flippin’ the bird whilst staring directly into the camera? I always liked Johnny, epsecially the older stuff w/ the Tennessee Two.
December 25th, 2007 at 11:41 amThis one?
December 25th, 2007 at 12:17 pmjust wait until Francy sees her infectious disease start heading to GITMO
then we’re going to see some FEAR
December 25th, 2007 at 12:20 pmGood. Keep em comin’. Make their life a living Hell.
December 25th, 2007 at 12:26 pmComment by Brain From Planet Arous — December 25, 2007 @ 11:31 am
Great post, dude!
December 25th, 2007 at 1:48 pmMs.Francis Fragos Townsend should be more worried about lynch mobs.
December 25th, 2007 at 3:00 pmThe Bushit’s people are not the least bit concerned with subpoenas as long as they have the notion that they are immuned from being jailed. Fear of going to prison is mute as long as pretty boy George has the poison Pardon Pen.
December 25th, 2007 at 3:20 pmAlright folks,
Time to take charge . . . no more pussy-footing.
If not Pelosi . . . then who?
Subpoenas clearly are not enough . . . we don’t need them issued . . . we need them enforced!
Pelosi won’t enforce . . . Franie is wailing but insufficently frightened . . . no one is frightened . . . like the Constitution, these folks consider subpoenas a paper tiger . . .
Regroup . . . let’s show these poli-props that our Constitution and laws have teeth.
Who to replace Pelosi and police the foxes guarding the hen house.
Your suggestions . . . demand follow through.
December 25th, 2007 at 4:06 pmMaybe someone with a clean slate.
Obama comes to mind. Fitsgerald? Someone with presidential ambitions who hasn’t landed on the political landscape just yet . . . who isn’t to tainted but has a prosecutorial bend.
Bill Ritter perhaps. I don’t know, but perhaps you do. We need to scout the landscape. Who?
December 25th, 2007 at 4:10 pmClearly Obama is on the presidential landscape . . . question is, is he so embedded with special interests that he’s blind.
December 25th, 2007 at 4:11 pmyou know maybe she should talk to the Clinton administration officials who also worried about excessive subpoenas…
December 25th, 2007 at 4:22 pmAs the year comes to closure and we recognized the failures and successes of the past year, let’s truly do it:
Success:
Dems take over the House;
Dems and Indepents have an oppportunity to subpoena records to uncover Bush Adm deception;
Courts decide that White House records regarding the comings and goings are public record and subject to the Freedom of Information Act;
Armed Services members come forward and disclose that the line of BS we’ve been served regarding “intelligence”, Iraq, and prisoner interrogation is false;
We’ve discovered that Pelosi has a separate agenda that has nothing to do with transparency and government clean up’;
We’ve discovered that tying your dog to the top of your minivan and having it shit itself alll over doors and winddows is just standaard family vacation in the Rominy family.
We’ve discovered that I am a complete radical, worthy of wire tapping because I am a card carrying member of the American Civil Liberties Union, because I belong to the John Muir Society, because I would rather fall off Half Dome with a parachute than attend a wedding party at the White Hoouse for a kid that’s been stopped more than four timesi but never charged . . . . I am an American . . . not perfect, but nice.
Off point:
Will Smith, perhaps a tad on point because he and his wife did sleep in the Linclon bedroom.
Hell, this is a little freaky, even for me.
Smith is joined at the hip with Tom Crusie. Smith did sleep in the Linclon bedroom. Cruise is a freakin toon. Smith is on a crusade to promote Cruises’s movie about Hitler. Smith says that Hitler is misunderstood and is not such a bad man. My family members were killed.
In 2000, I visited a palace wher my Hugenaught ancestors were skinned and hung…you suck. My ancestors fled to America . . .you and yours fled into a state of denial . . .my ancestors bred with indians . . . you and yours killed me and mine in a state of fear and terror.
We’re past the tipping point. . . . dominos are falling.
Dub’ya has covered his bases. . . . he ’s going to Paraguay. He knows.
December 25th, 2007 at 9:24 pmMy writings may seem like nonsense to you . . . but when you consider that Jefferson priced our heads at 5 cents a piece . . . perhaps you can understand.
December 25th, 2007 at 9:32 pmQuit your carping Franny. You stupid Repub buttwipes were all over the Clinton administration for eight longs years, setting a record for filing frivolous subpoenas, and the Clinton administration ran the country like a well oiled machine.
December 25th, 2007 at 10:12 pmFace it. You Repub Bushies just stink.
One hundred years ago indians ran over these planes. . .. we have wreaked havoc upon these planes. one hundred years from now, Indians, different indians, will run over these planes. We will have ravageded these planes.
Thank God these folks will have returned to the plane speaking, indigenous (sp?) folks. God bless us all.
December 25th, 2007 at 11:23 pmrocky, you have a good point. 100 years ago, however, Andrew Carnegie was not shooting Cherokee…he was shooting his own workers.
December 25th, 2007 at 11:56 pmDon’t do the crime, if you can’t do the time! Don’t do it! Don’t go to bed with a price on your head! Don’t do it! And a ha-a-ppy New Year!
December 26th, 2007 at 6:34 am