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		<title>By: AllenAllen</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/28/kristol-nytimes/comment-page-3/#comment-4218881</link>
		<dc:creator>AllenAllen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>A: <strong>To cancel your subscription, please call 1-800-NYTIMES (1-800-698-4637).</strong></p>
<p>press #4</p>
<p>then press #2</p>
<p>You will be connected to a customer care representative.</p>
<p>Be sure and mention Kristol as the reason.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4218881', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: blogbob</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/28/kristol-nytimes/comment-page-3/#comment-4208703</link>
		<dc:creator>blogbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never has a man who has been so wrong been promoted so highâ€¦ unless you count GW Bush.
Comment by LibertyLover â€” December 28, 2007 @ 10:40 pm

Don&#039;t you see, Lovver?  Kristol and Chimpy were Siamese twins, separated at birth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never has a man who has been so wrong been promoted so highâ€¦ unless you count GW Bush.<br />
Comment by LibertyLover â€” December 28, 2007 @ 10:40 pm</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you see, Lovver?  Kristol and Chimpy were Siamese twins, separated at birth!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4208703', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: jerseyboyblue</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 22:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a sad day for the NY Times.</description>
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		<title>By: Jason M. Hendler</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/28/kristol-nytimes/comment-page-3/#comment-4208219</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason M. Hendler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is both good news and good business.</description>
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		<title>By: candide</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps only the conservatives buy newspapers nowadays.  I find the liberal blogs much more informative.  I certainly don&#039;t want to supplement the income of the MSM and their rightwing minions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps only the conservatives buy newspapers nowadays.  I find the liberal blogs much more informative.  I certainly don&#8217;t want to supplement the income of the MSM and their rightwing minions.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4208206', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Specifically:

The pattern continued when Greta Van Susteren went On the Record a few hours later. Bill Kristol was one of her guests. He too (lightly) embroidered:

&lt;i&gt;KRISTOL: When Rickâ€”when Rick Kahn said, â€œWe can redeem the sacrifice of Paul Wellstoneâ€™s life if you help win this election with Walter Mondale,â€ thatâ€™s a little crazy. I mean, you canâ€™t redeem the sacrifice of Paul Wellstoneâ€™s life by electing Walter Mondale. So thereâ€™s a kind of, thereâ€™s a kind of politicization of things like death, which is a little weird.

Thatâ€™s the way the official Fox transcript is punctuated, and thatâ€™s the way the statement sounded. Kahn, of course, didnâ€™t mention Mondaleâ€™s name. Neither did any other speaker at the â€œpoliticizedâ€ event.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Specifically:</p>
<p>The pattern continued when Greta Van Susteren went On the Record a few hours later. Bill Kristol was one of her guests. He too (lightly) embroidered:</p>
<p><i>KRISTOL: When Rickâ€”when Rick Kahn said, â€œWe can redeem the sacrifice of Paul Wellstoneâ€™s life if you help win this election with Walter Mondale,â€ thatâ€™s a little crazy. I mean, you canâ€™t redeem the sacrifice of Paul Wellstoneâ€™s life by electing Walter Mondale. So thereâ€™s a kind of, thereâ€™s a kind of politicization of things like death, which is a little weird.</p>
<p>Thatâ€™s the way the official Fox transcript is punctuated, and thatâ€™s the way the statement sounded. Kahn, of course, didnâ€™t mention Mondaleâ€™s name. Neither did any other speaker at the â€œpoliticizedâ€ event.</i><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4208204', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/28/kristol-nytimes/comment-page-3/#comment-4208199</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The objectively pro-al Qaeda Satyam accused Kristol of lying, yet failed to include a single example of a lie.&quot;

Comment by Manslagt 

Here you go:

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh103102.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The objectively pro-al Qaeda Satyam accused Kristol of lying, yet failed to include a single example of a lie.&#8221;</p>
<p>Comment by Manslagt </p>
<p>Here you go:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh103102.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh103102.shtml</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4208199', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Aanya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aanya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh well!  I never read Brooks and I never read Saphire!  I&#039;ll enjoy never reading Kristol!</description>
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		<title>By: plunger</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/28/kristol-nytimes/comment-page-3/#comment-4208112</link>
		<dc:creator>plunger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M  I  C  H  A  E  L

L  E  D  E  E  N



Ledeen&#039;s ideas are repeated daily by such figures as Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz. His views virtually define the stark departure from American foreign policy philosophy that existed before the tragedy of Sept. 11, 2001. He basically believes that violence in the service of the spread of democracy is America&#039;s manifest destiny. Consequently, he has become the philosophical legitimator of the American occupation of Iraq.

Now Michael Ledeen is calling for regime change beyond Iraq. In an address entitled &quot;Time to Focus on Iran -- The Mother of Modern Terrorism,&quot; for the policy forum of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA) on April 30, he declared, &quot;the time for diplomacy is at an end; it is time for a free Iran, free Syria and free Lebanon.&quot;

With a group of other conservatives, Ledeen recently set up the Center for Democracy in Iran (CDI), an action group focusing on producing regime change in Iran.

Quotes from Ledeen&#039;s works reveal a peculiar set of beliefs about American attitudes toward violence. &quot;Change -- above all violent change -- is the essence of human history,&quot; he proclaims in his book, &quot;Machiavelli on Modern Leadership: Why Machiavelli&#039;s Iron Rules Are as Timely and Important Today as Five Centuries Ago.&quot; In an influential essay in the National Review Online he asserts, &quot;Creative destruction is our middle name. We do it automatically ... it is time once again to export the democratic revolution.&quot;

Iraq, Iran and Syria are the first and foremost nations where this should happen, according to Ledeen. The process by which this should be achieved is a violent one, termed &quot;total war,&quot; a concept pioneered by the 19th century Prussian general, Karl von Clausewitz in his classic book &quot;On War.&quot;

Ledeen&#039;s take on this idea is wedded to ideology. In summarizing his book &quot;The War Against the Terror Masters&quot; on the American Enterprise Institute Web site, he writes: &quot;We wage total war because we fight in the name of an idea, and ideas either triumph or fail ... totally.&quot; In his reckoning, force is the only reliable strategy to enforce our ideology on our enemies. In the same summary he claims, drawing inspiration from Machiavelli: &quot;We can lead by the force of high moral example ... [but] fear is much more reliable, and lasts longer. Once we show that we are capable of dealing out terrible punishment to our enemies, our power will be far greater.&quot;

http://www.alternet.org/story/15860/




A fellow at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, Ledeen holds a Ph.D. in History and Philosophy from the University of Wisconsin. In 1983, on the recommendation of Richard Perle, Ledeen was hired at the Department of Defense as a consultant on terrorism. While being investigated as a security risk by his supervisor, Noel Koch, it was learned from the CIA station that Ledeen had been carried in Agency files as an agent of influence of a foreign government: Israel.

After having his access to classified materials blocked he ceased working there. He next appeared at the National Security Council as a consultant working with NSC head Robert McFarlane. Ledeen was involved in the transfer of arms to Iran during the Iran-Contra affair -- an adventure that he documented in the book &quot;Perilous Statecraft: An Insider&#039;s Account of the Iran-Contra Affair.&quot; A prominent member of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA) board of governors and the Center for Security Policy (CSP), he advocates &quot;total war&quot; inline with the &quot;Grand Strategy for the Middle East&quot; which advocates &quot;Iraq as the tactical pivot, Saudi Arabia as the strategic pivot and Egypt as the prize.&quot; Ledeen is presently a serving member on the China Commission and, with the support of DOD Undersecretary for Policy Douglas Feith, he has since 2001 been employed as a consultant for the Office of Special Plans OSP). He is involved in the handling of classified materials and has high-level security clearances. He was also involved in election rigging of the 2000 election.

http://www.nogw.com/warforisrael.html




.


Conflicts and power

From an outstanding interview with Professor Ilan Pappe of Haifa University (my emphasis):

    â€œI think that neo-conservatism is mainly a product of the Cold War, and I think as happened in Israel, so in the US, a lot of people benefit economically, sociologically, politically, from a situation of conflict which begins with the producers of arms, and it ends with the people who have a hold on the decision-making apparatus in the name of national security.  And of course this was all lost in a way when the Soviet Union collapsed, and the cold war ended. And I think this group of people were looking for a new bogey man, a new threat to the national security of the US and they found it because of the very strong influence, I think, of Israel among other things, in the Arab world and the Islamic world. Of course, movements such as the Islamic Al-Qaeda did not help. They provided the pretext, and the context for even pushing these ideas even further. And what we have now is the same people, a next generation, who would do all they can to perpetuate the conflict, because they benefit from the conflict. They benefit from situations of wars, of conflicts, and so on, and I think this is what enforces their hold over the American policy making in the world at large, and in the Middle East in particular.â€

We often wonder why people like Ledeen seem to be so interested in creating conflict for the sake of conflict.  One reason is that people who are aware of the timing of a conflict are in a position to make money off it.  Another reason is that this constant conflict constitutes the sole reason why these people have any power.  They create an escalating series of problems, and then have to remain in power to â€˜solveâ€™ them.  Of course, the solutions continue to lead to more conflicts.  We can understand all the the talk about Iran as another example of creating a conflict which gives these characters something to do.  While a civil war in Iraq benefits Likudniks in the American government and in Israel, it also benefits a guy like Cheney, whose only interest is in creating more power for Cheney.  The United States has fallen into a vicious cycle where the jobs of the neocons and their fellow travelers like Cheney and Rumsfeld are dependent on their cleaning up the messes they have already started.  An end to conflict would put them out of power, so weâ€™ll never see an end to conflict. 

http://xymphora.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M  I  C  H  A  E  L</p>
<p>L  E  D  E  E  N</p>
<p>Ledeen&#8217;s ideas are repeated daily by such figures as Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz. His views virtually define the stark departure from American foreign policy philosophy that existed before the tragedy of Sept. 11, 2001. He basically believes that violence in the service of the spread of democracy is America&#8217;s manifest destiny. Consequently, he has become the philosophical legitimator of the American occupation of Iraq.</p>
<p>Now Michael Ledeen is calling for regime change beyond Iraq. In an address entitled &#8220;Time to Focus on Iran &#8212; The Mother of Modern Terrorism,&#8221; for the policy forum of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA) on April 30, he declared, &#8220;the time for diplomacy is at an end; it is time for a free Iran, free Syria and free Lebanon.&#8221;</p>
<p>With a group of other conservatives, Ledeen recently set up the Center for Democracy in Iran (CDI), an action group focusing on producing regime change in Iran.</p>
<p>Quotes from Ledeen&#8217;s works reveal a peculiar set of beliefs about American attitudes toward violence. &#8220;Change &#8212; above all violent change &#8212; is the essence of human history,&#8221; he proclaims in his book, &#8220;Machiavelli on Modern Leadership: Why Machiavelli&#8217;s Iron Rules Are as Timely and Important Today as Five Centuries Ago.&#8221; In an influential essay in the National Review Online he asserts, &#8220;Creative destruction is our middle name. We do it automatically &#8230; it is time once again to export the democratic revolution.&#8221;</p>
<p>Iraq, Iran and Syria are the first and foremost nations where this should happen, according to Ledeen. The process by which this should be achieved is a violent one, termed &#8220;total war,&#8221; a concept pioneered by the 19th century Prussian general, Karl von Clausewitz in his classic book &#8220;On War.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ledeen&#8217;s take on this idea is wedded to ideology. In summarizing his book &#8220;The War Against the Terror Masters&#8221; on the American Enterprise Institute Web site, he writes: &#8220;We wage total war because we fight in the name of an idea, and ideas either triumph or fail &#8230; totally.&#8221; In his reckoning, force is the only reliable strategy to enforce our ideology on our enemies. In the same summary he claims, drawing inspiration from Machiavelli: &#8220;We can lead by the force of high moral example &#8230; [but] fear is much more reliable, and lasts longer. Once we show that we are capable of dealing out terrible punishment to our enemies, our power will be far greater.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alternet.org/story/15860/" rel="nofollow">http://www.alternet.org/story/15860/</a></p>
<p>A fellow at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, Ledeen holds a Ph.D. in History and Philosophy from the University of Wisconsin. In 1983, on the recommendation of Richard Perle, Ledeen was hired at the Department of Defense as a consultant on terrorism. While being investigated as a security risk by his supervisor, Noel Koch, it was learned from the CIA station that Ledeen had been carried in Agency files as an agent of influence of a foreign government: Israel.</p>
<p>After having his access to classified materials blocked he ceased working there. He next appeared at the National Security Council as a consultant working with NSC head Robert McFarlane. Ledeen was involved in the transfer of arms to Iran during the Iran-Contra affair &#8212; an adventure that he documented in the book &#8220;Perilous Statecraft: An Insider&#8217;s Account of the Iran-Contra Affair.&#8221; A prominent member of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA) board of governors and the Center for Security Policy (CSP), he advocates &#8220;total war&#8221; inline with the &#8220;Grand Strategy for the Middle East&#8221; which advocates &#8220;Iraq as the tactical pivot, Saudi Arabia as the strategic pivot and Egypt as the prize.&#8221; Ledeen is presently a serving member on the China Commission and, with the support of DOD Undersecretary for Policy Douglas Feith, he has since 2001 been employed as a consultant for the Office of Special Plans OSP). He is involved in the handling of classified materials and has high-level security clearances. He was also involved in election rigging of the 2000 election.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nogw.com/warforisrael.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nogw.com/warforisrael.html</a></p>
<p>.</p>
<p>Conflicts and power</p>
<p>From an outstanding interview with Professor Ilan Pappe of Haifa University (my emphasis):</p>
<p>    â€œI think that neo-conservatism is mainly a product of the Cold War, and I think as happened in Israel, so in the US, a lot of people benefit economically, sociologically, politically, from a situation of conflict which begins with the producers of arms, and it ends with the people who have a hold on the decision-making apparatus in the name of national security.  And of course this was all lost in a way when the Soviet Union collapsed, and the cold war ended. And I think this group of people were looking for a new bogey man, a new threat to the national security of the US and they found it because of the very strong influence, I think, of Israel among other things, in the Arab world and the Islamic world. Of course, movements such as the Islamic Al-Qaeda did not help. They provided the pretext, and the context for even pushing these ideas even further. And what we have now is the same people, a next generation, who would do all they can to perpetuate the conflict, because they benefit from the conflict. They benefit from situations of wars, of conflicts, and so on, and I think this is what enforces their hold over the American policy making in the world at large, and in the Middle East in particular.â€</p>
<p>We often wonder why people like Ledeen seem to be so interested in creating conflict for the sake of conflict.  One reason is that people who are aware of the timing of a conflict are in a position to make money off it.  Another reason is that this constant conflict constitutes the sole reason why these people have any power.  They create an escalating series of problems, and then have to remain in power to â€˜solveâ€™ them.  Of course, the solutions continue to lead to more conflicts.  We can understand all the the talk about Iran as another example of creating a conflict which gives these characters something to do.  While a civil war in Iraq benefits Likudniks in the American government and in Israel, it also benefits a guy like Cheney, whose only interest is in creating more power for Cheney.  The United States has fallen into a vicious cycle where the jobs of the neocons and their fellow travelers like Cheney and Rumsfeld are dependent on their cleaning up the messes they have already started.  An end to conflict would put them out of power, so weâ€™ll never see an end to conflict. </p>
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		<title>By: plunger</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/28/kristol-nytimes/comment-page-3/#comment-4208109</link>
		<dc:creator>plunger</dc:creator>
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		<description>&quot;The CDI&#039;s Ledeen, Amitay and Sobhani were featured speakers at a May 2003 forum on &quot;the future of Iran&#039; sponsored by AEI, the Hudson Institute and the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. The forum, chaired by the Hudson Institute&#039;s Meyrav Wurmser, the Israeli-born wife of David Wurmser (he serves as Cheney&#039;s leading expert on Iran and Syria), included a presentation by Un Lubrani of Israel&#039;s Ministry of Defense.
 
Summarizing the sentiment of neoconservative ideologues and strategists, Meyrav Wurmser said: &quot;Our fight against Iraq was only a battle in a long war. It would be ill-conceived to think we can deal with Iraq alone. We must move on, and faster.&quot;

JINSA, a neoconservative organization established in 1976 that fosters closer strategic and military ties between the United States and Israel, also has its sights on Iran. At a JINSA policy forum in April 2003 titled &quot;Time to Focus on Iran-The Mother of Modern Terrorism,&quot; Ledeen declared, &quot;The time for diplomacy is at an end; it is time for a free Iran, free Syria and free Lebanon.&quot;

JINSA, along with CSP, serves as one of the main institutional links to the military-industrial complex for neoconservatives. Ledeen served as JINSA&#039;s first executive director and was JINSA&#039;s &quot;Godfather,&quot; according to Amitay. Amitay is a JINSA vice chair. JINSA board members or advisers also include former CIA director James Woolsey, former Rep. Jack Kemp and the AEI&#039;s Joshua Muravchik. After he joined the administration, Feith resigned from JINSA.&#039;s board of advisers, as did Vice President Dick Cheney and Undersecretary of State for Arms Control John Bolton.&quot;

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Central_Asia_watch/Is_Iran_Next.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The CDI&#8217;s Ledeen, Amitay and Sobhani were featured speakers at a May 2003 forum on &#8220;the future of Iran&#8217; sponsored by AEI, the Hudson Institute and the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. The forum, chaired by the Hudson Institute&#8217;s Meyrav Wurmser, the Israeli-born wife of David Wurmser (he serves as Cheney&#8217;s leading expert on Iran and Syria), included a presentation by Un Lubrani of Israel&#8217;s Ministry of Defense.</p>
<p>Summarizing the sentiment of neoconservative ideologues and strategists, Meyrav Wurmser said: &#8220;Our fight against Iraq was only a battle in a long war. It would be ill-conceived to think we can deal with Iraq alone. We must move on, and faster.&#8221;</p>
<p>JINSA, a neoconservative organization established in 1976 that fosters closer strategic and military ties between the United States and Israel, also has its sights on Iran. At a JINSA policy forum in April 2003 titled &#8220;Time to Focus on Iran-The Mother of Modern Terrorism,&#8221; Ledeen declared, &#8220;The time for diplomacy is at an end; it is time for a free Iran, free Syria and free Lebanon.&#8221;</p>
<p>JINSA, along with CSP, serves as one of the main institutional links to the military-industrial complex for neoconservatives. Ledeen served as JINSA&#8217;s first executive director and was JINSA&#8217;s &#8220;Godfather,&#8221; according to Amitay. Amitay is a JINSA vice chair. JINSA board members or advisers also include former CIA director James Woolsey, former Rep. Jack Kemp and the AEI&#8217;s Joshua Muravchik. After he joined the administration, Feith resigned from JINSA.&#8217;s board of advisers, as did Vice President Dick Cheney and Undersecretary of State for Arms Control John Bolton.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Central_Asia_watch/Is_Iran_Next.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Central_Asia_watch/Is_Iran_Next.html</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4208109', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/28/kristol-nytimes/comment-page-3/#comment-4208104</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, but the reichwingers claim that the NYT is &quot;liberal.&quot;
How low can the Times go with this addition?  Any word on someone to balance William the Bloody?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, but the reichwingers claim that the NYT is &#8220;liberal.&#8221;<br />
How low can the Times go with this addition?  Any word on someone to balance William the Bloody?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4208104', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: plunger</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/28/kristol-nytimes/comment-page-3/#comment-4208103</link>
		<dc:creator>plunger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zionists Unite!

In case it wasn&#039;t already obvious, the New York Times exists to further the interests of Israel.

Judith Miller was simply doing her job - for the US division of Mossad.

Google:  Hasbara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zionists Unite!</p>
<p>In case it wasn&#8217;t already obvious, the New York Times exists to further the interests of Israel.</p>
<p>Judith Miller was simply doing her job &#8211; for the US division of Mossad.</p>
<p>Google:  Hasbara<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4208103', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Xisithrus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/28/kristol-nytimes/comment-page-3/#comment-4208098</link>
		<dc:creator>Xisithrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh get out â€¦ you mean gin or actually sucking on pine trees?

Actually he ate pine nuts...you know the grape nuts cereal guy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh get out â€¦ you mean gin or actually sucking on pine trees?</p>
<p>Actually he ate pine nuts&#8230;you know the grape nuts cereal guy?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4208098', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shayne</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/28/kristol-nytimes/comment-page-3/#comment-4208087</link>
		<dc:creator>Shayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That stuff kilt Euell Gibbons!

Comment by Xisithrus â€” December 29, 2007 @ 10:24 am

Oh get out ... you mean gin or actually sucking on pine trees?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That stuff kilt Euell Gibbons!</p>
<p>Comment by Xisithrus â€” December 29, 2007 @ 10:24 am</p>
<p>Oh get out &#8230; you mean gin or actually sucking on pine trees?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4208087', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Xisithrus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/28/kristol-nytimes/comment-page-3/#comment-4208086</link>
		<dc:creator>Xisithrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dislike sucking on pine trees so I am not a fan of gin :) -Sabyen91

That stuff kilt Euell Gibbons!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dislike sucking on pine trees so I am not a fan of gin :) -Sabyen91</p>
<p>That stuff kilt Euell Gibbons!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4208086', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shayne</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/28/kristol-nytimes/comment-page-3/#comment-4208084</link>
		<dc:creator>Shayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dislike sucking on pine trees so I am not a fan of gin :)

Comment by Sabyen91 â€” December 29, 2007 @ 1:54 am

Junipers are not just any pine trees.  But the berries contain an extra medicinal value in the same way agave does.  Good for those of us who can&#039;t handle much alcohol.  ; )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dislike sucking on pine trees so I am not a fan of gin :)</p>
<p>Comment by Sabyen91 â€” December 29, 2007 @ 1:54 am</p>
<p>Junipers are not just any pine trees.  But the berries contain an extra medicinal value in the same way agave does.  Good for those of us who can&#8217;t handle much alcohol.  ; )<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4208084', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Termagant</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/28/kristol-nytimes/comment-page-3/#comment-4208083</link>
		<dc:creator>Termagant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today is my first day without the New York Times after 41 years.   I feel fine....elated!!!


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today is my first day without the New York Times after 41 years.   I feel fine&#8230;.elated!!!</p>
<p>.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4208083', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Xisithrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xisithrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservative has bee basturdized as well, what with the culture of corruption, the gay sex scandals, the endless  Rovian scheherazade, the endless wars, lack of fiscal restraint, the devauation of the dollar, the price of fuel...

Conservatism means greedy corrupt toe tapping war party.

Integrity? Not a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservative has bee basturdized as well, what with the culture of corruption, the gay sex scandals, the endless  Rovian scheherazade, the endless wars, lack of fiscal restraint, the devauation of the dollar, the price of fuel&#8230;</p>
<p>Conservatism means greedy corrupt toe tapping war party.</p>
<p>Integrity? Not a bit.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4208081', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: theswan</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/28/kristol-nytimes/comment-page-3/#comment-4208043</link>
		<dc:creator>theswan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THis is a confirmation that America no longer has a left.  It doesn&#039;t sell.  And America has been sold out.  The old America like the old Europe is forever gone.  You are seeing the New America, the Bush version.  Sell your soul, America has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THis is a confirmation that America no longer has a left.  It doesn&#8217;t sell.  And America has been sold out.  The old America like the old Europe is forever gone.  You are seeing the New America, the Bush version.  Sell your soul, America has.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4208043', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bobwurst</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/28/kristol-nytimes/comment-page-3/#comment-4208035</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobwurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(you liberals get mad, the rest of the population agrees with him).

You&#039;re actually right this time Frank. It&#039;s just that the majority of the country doesn&#039;t know it&#039;s liberal. Most folks want out of Iraq. Most folks want real heath care reform. Most folks want honest government, most folks don&#039;t really care about brown people coming across the border to clean republicans&#039; pools and cut their grass.

Most people are liberal, they just don&#039;t use that label because the right wing media has demonized that word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(you liberals get mad, the rest of the population agrees with him).</p>
<p>You&#8217;re actually right this time Frank. It&#8217;s just that the majority of the country doesn&#8217;t know it&#8217;s liberal. Most folks want out of Iraq. Most folks want real heath care reform. Most folks want honest government, most folks don&#8217;t really care about brown people coming across the border to clean republicans&#8217; pools and cut their grass.</p>
<p>Most people are liberal, they just don&#8217;t use that label because the right wing media has demonized that word.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4208035', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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