They are a disgrace to everything America stands for.

So in 2002, the DOD/CIA were using videoTAPES? I find it hard to believe that they were using such old equipment. VHS or Beta? Sounds like a good way to make us think that hundreds of bulky tapes were destroyed, when in reality all the interrogations are on a handfull of hard drives.

So the CIA tortures people, and then destroys the tapes to avoid “being perceived” as a torturer? Maybe not torturing people is an easier solution…

They were playing with fire and got burned by the blowback… we all got burned. Now they will use anything, including torture, to cover their tracks.

I do think that it is naive to believe Cofer Black still does not work for the CIA. “Retirement” of such officers is a spurious business. Blackwater, for which Black is a principal, appears to me to be primarily a CIA asset, and a dangerous one, as the CIA appears to be assembling a paramilitary force with both international and domestic projections.

In the larger scale, this use of reactionary nationalist forces to subdue an adversary has often blown up in the face of imperialists. The U.S.-backed war against the Soviets in Afghanistan was a reactionary war through and through. Movies like “Charlie Wilson’s War” are pieces of propaganda. The same Islamic fundamentalism, backed up by a terror that has raged against women, out-of-favor religious sects, and Enlightenment principles, opposed the secularist Soviet-backed governments. The U.S. was happy then to ally with mullahs and warlords who saw nothing wrong with throwing acid in the face of Muslim women who tried to teach little girls how to read.

Well, now the chickens have come home to roost, America. This war is bankrupting the country, allowing the crumbling of U.S. infrastructure and national destruction from within. It is making the U.S. into a pariah state. And it is eating like a political acid into the body politic and creating a moral, intellectual, and political emptiness so profound it’s unknown if this country can pull back from total disaster even now.

The criminals rule. The rich lord it over the poor. The educated classes stir and fulminate, and are unwilling to sacrifice anything (unless it’s tax deductible). A harsh harsh future awaits us… unless…

unless we can bring these criminals to heel now.

But without an incredibly strong public outcry… forget it.

Let’s start with Daily Kos. If this can’t make it here, then what hope is it for breaking through on this knowledge to the rest of the country.

Help Needed: Stop Torture Now!

Question: WTF didn’t you guys hit the Capitol and White House. We paid for 5 targets. Now POTSUS can’t relocate the White House to Crawford and still has to deal with an elected Congress.

Answer: We did our best but your lousy airlines can not take off on time, so one plane could not take off and you shot down one of our other flights.
Why you do that?

Question: It was too slow. Well, we want our money back, where is it?.

Answer: He invested it in some SIV’s. It is making really good returns and Greenspan promised to give him a heads up for when he pulls the plug on the sub-primes, so he can sell at a big profit.

Question: Where is he now?.

Answer: He is setting up a video production company in Crawford. He has a nice big government contract for making up to 3 videos per year on request. He even hired a speech writer from America but I can not remember his name.

Question: How did he get out of Afghanistan?. He made us look real bad, we were supposed fly him to Crawford ourselves.

Answer: Come on, don’t you know he was in NY on 9/11? He did not want to miss the show in person, plus he needed to see a Doctor for his kidney problem. Hey, how did you get the buildings to fall down, that was pretty cool. But he was very upset, said he ate a lot of dust and complains he has some lung problems now, but his Doctor in Crawford is very good and sends all his bills to the White House.

Question: Well, you look a bit tired. We have a couple of virgins we know you like, they can help you get cleaned up and attend to your needs. We taught them a few tricks, do you mind if we tape the action?.

Answer. Thank you but I prefer my privacy. Do you mind if I dine in tonight?. Please deliver my dinner by 7:30. And please, do not overcook the steak like last time, I prefer it medium-rare.

Those tapes? Burn, baby, burn.

How do the pieces fit together to something bigger than even the stupidity of Shrub ?

I am so glad those CIA tapes were erased, because Dems would have used them in this election to win votes. Now, the only tapes we watch are terrorists shooting and bombing a muslim woman. No coincidence, Hill’reh’s numbers are way up, and Reps vs. Dems must be up, because no pollster will post the results, which likely show Hill’reh, Obama and Edwards waaaaaaay down against the likely Reps.

THAT is fair and balanced – woo hoo!

Comment from above

InLatin America CIA is viewed as a criminal North American Agency. It was involved in the assassination of Che Guevara, in the Torture of thousands of people, and most glaringly involved in the exange of drugs/cocaine (to the US) for guns (from the US). As a joke we say: Cocaine Importing Agency.

Any soldier worth his ( or her ) salt will refuse to follow illegal orders.

Comment by Wayne
THANKS WAYNE!!!

Comment by sacopenapa

With his own urine…

Comment by RUCerious

Excellent comment!!!

There was too much screams and muffed sounds, and the noise of runing water was making it dificult to understand what was going on. It was looking too much like TORTURE!

Comment by Frank M

He’s talking about the ostrich-like, republican-led, 109th congress. Sen. Pat Roberts to be specific.

But, gosh, he’s _awfully_ brave hiding behind his keyboard, listening to his Toby Keith records! Give the guy a break. ;^)

I agree, which is why I qualified my post at the end with “Have the courage not to put yourself in that position in the first place.”

The Nuremburg defense didn’t work then and won’t work now.

These CIA agents should have refused in the first place.