Comments on: U.S. seen internationally as an ‘Endemic Surveillance Society.’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:32:51 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: shellyT http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/comment-page-2/#comment-4210330 shellyT Tue, 01 Jan 2008 10:52:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/#comment-4210330 So when do we IMPEACH these Nazis? Tell Rep. John Conyers to get off his butt and do something. Whatever they are blackmailing him for, we forgive him in advance. So when do we IMPEACH these Nazis?

Tell Rep. John Conyers to get off his butt and do something. Whatever they are blackmailing him for, we forgive him in advance.

]]> By: judyinnm http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/comment-page-2/#comment-4209817 judyinnm Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:08:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/#comment-4209817 #8 - the plural for "cirsis" is "crises"; just for your information. #8 – the plural for “cirsis” is “crises”; just for your information.

]]> By: judyinnm http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/comment-page-2/#comment-4209802 judyinnm Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:54:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/#comment-4209802 Sorry folks, this one can't be entirely blamed on Bush. Granted, he's certainly exacerbated the problem; but the "War on Drugs" was the real beginning of intrusion into our private lives. We accept it as normal now, but there was a time we didn't have to pass a drug test to get a job. Our kids' school lockers were not routinely searched. Homes weren't being broken into by cops, in the middle of the night, because they suspected drugs were being made or sold there. Long ago, the Supreme Court declared that simply driving down the street is "probable cause" for cops to search our cars, without a warrant. And so on. Bush's expansion of government power to snoop on us is being used as much in the WOD as on the GWOT. And don't think the next election is giong to reverse this trend, regardless of whom we elect. Sorry folks, this one can’t be entirely blamed on Bush. Granted, he’s certainly exacerbated the problem; but the “War on Drugs” was the real beginning of intrusion into our private lives. We accept it as normal now, but there was a time we didn’t have to pass a drug test to get a job. Our kids’ school lockers were not routinely searched. Homes weren’t being broken into by cops, in the middle of the night, because they suspected drugs were being made or sold there. Long ago, the Supreme Court declared that simply driving down the street is “probable cause” for cops to search our cars, without a warrant. And so on.

Bush’s expansion of government power to snoop on us is being used as much in the WOD as on the GWOT. And don’t think the next election is giong to reverse this trend, regardless of whom we elect.

]]> By: Mugsy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/comment-page-2/#comment-4209705 Mugsy Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:16:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/#comment-4209705 Sunday night, ABC reran "<strong>Sound of Music</strong>", and I was struck by the scene towards the end where Captain von Trap was outraged that the Nazi's read his mail: "<em>I was under the impression that the contents of messages were still private in Austria!</em>", he snapped at the mustachioed Gestapo Agent. Sunday night, ABC reran “Sound of Music“, and I was struck by the scene towards the end where Captain von Trap was outraged that the Nazi’s read his mail:

“I was under the impression that the contents of messages were still private in Austria!“, he snapped at the mustachioed Gestapo Agent.

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/comment-page-2/#comment-4209692 bilbobaggins Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:00:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/#comment-4209692 <em>The years 2000-2006 were obviously the Republicans’ attempt at a fascist shift in America. But they botched it, just as they botched everything. Comment by Perry logan</em> I don't know about that. It seems to me that they have been very successful. They have gotten pretty much everything they wanted thanks to the lock-step lemming Republiscums and the spineless Democrats. When is someone going to stand up for "we the people"? The years 2000-2006 were obviously the Republicans’ attempt at a fascist shift in America. But they botched it, just as they botched everything.
Comment by Perry logan

I don’t know about that. It seems to me that they have been very successful. They have gotten pretty much everything they wanted thanks to the lock-step lemming Republiscums and the spineless Democrats. When is someone going to stand up for “we the people”?

]]> By: Perry logan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/comment-page-2/#comment-4209630 Perry logan Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:58:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/#comment-4209630 Pandemic surveillance of a society is, of course, a staple of a fascist takeover. The years 2000-2006 were obviously the Republicans’ attempt at a fascist shift in America. But they botched it, just as they botched everything. Pandemic surveillance of a society is, of course, a staple of a fascist takeover. The years 2000-2006 were obviously the Republicans’ attempt at a fascist shift in America. But they botched it, just as they botched everything.

]]> By: Guido OBGYN Lover http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/comment-page-2/#comment-4209617 Guido OBGYN Lover Mon, 31 Dec 2007 07:07:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/#comment-4209617 All this surveillance is not worth preventing another 911. All this surveillance is not worth preventing another 911.

]]> By: Guido OBGYN Lover http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/comment-page-2/#comment-4209614 Guido OBGYN Lover Mon, 31 Dec 2007 06:59:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/#comment-4209614 We'll get our privacy back. One way or another. We’ll get our privacy back. One way or another.

]]> By: lefttown http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/comment-page-2/#comment-4209451 lefttown Mon, 31 Dec 2007 03:49:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/#comment-4209451 Neither Democrats nor Republicans have comported themselves very well. Here we have all the Republicans lockstepping with Bush/Cheney when it comes to invading our privacy...but wait! There's Harry Reid--the Democratic Leader in the Senate--doing everything in HIS power to ramrod through telecom amnesty: in other words, letting Bush off scott-free. There are a few exceptionally honorable men and women, but in my opinion, almost all have to be voted out, Democrats and Republcicans alike. If they're not screaming, "Foul!" right now, they should go. If we could get 20% of the House and the Senate voted out of office, it might scare the rest of them into doing what the public wants. I don't know what else we can do at this point. Neither Democrats nor Republicans have comported themselves very well. Here we have all the Republicans lockstepping with Bush/Cheney when it comes to invading our privacy…but wait! There’s Harry Reid–the Democratic Leader in the Senate–doing everything in HIS power to ramrod through telecom amnesty: in other words, letting Bush off scott-free. There are a few exceptionally honorable men and women, but in my opinion, almost all have to be voted out, Democrats and Republcicans alike. If they’re not screaming, “Foul!” right now, they should go. If we could get 20% of the House and the Senate voted out of office, it might scare the rest of them into doing what the public wants. I don’t know what else we can do at this point.

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/comment-page-2/#comment-4209342 RUCerious Mon, 31 Dec 2007 02:42:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/#comment-4209342 And sorry ass trolls suck this up, thinking that they are being kept safe in their lil fascist womb. And sorry ass trolls suck this up, thinking that they are being kept safe in their lil fascist womb.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/comment-page-1/#comment-4209338 Lefty Patriot Mon, 31 Dec 2007 02:40:00 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/#comment-4209338 Spoken like a true Moonbat Surrender Monkey. Comment by Libtard — December 30, 2007 @ 9:21 pm spoken like a true republiscum tool. Spoken like a true Moonbat Surrender Monkey.

Comment by Libtard — December 30, 2007 @ 9:21 pm

spoken like a true republiscum tool.

]]> By: Brain From Planet Arous http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/comment-page-1/#comment-4209324 Brain From Planet Arous Mon, 31 Dec 2007 02:16:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/#comment-4209324 <em>BTW, how are the so-called Islamofascists (the stupidest made-up word ever) going to nuke us? Do you really believe you can fit a nuclear weapon in a suitcase? Comment by bilbobaggins — December 30, 2007 @ 6:31 pm</em> 19 or 20 of them will hijack a B-52 Bomber with box cutters, and since NORAD won't shoot it down, drop a Nuke on Bismark, North Dakota. BTW, how are the so-called Islamofascists (the stupidest made-up word ever) going to nuke us? Do you really believe you can fit a nuclear weapon in a suitcase?

Comment by bilbobaggins — December 30, 2007 @ 6:31 pm

19 or 20 of them will hijack a B-52 Bomber with box cutters, and since NORAD won’t shoot it down, drop a Nuke on Bismark, North Dakota.

]]> By: marlow http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/comment-page-1/#comment-4209294 marlow Mon, 31 Dec 2007 01:29:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/#comment-4209294 "Yeah, but you see, they're republicans and so am I, so it's all right." “Yeah, but you see, they’re republicans and so am I, so it’s all right.”

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/comment-page-1/#comment-4209262 bilbobaggins Mon, 31 Dec 2007 01:13:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/#comment-4209262 <em>NEOCONNED! Part 1 of 11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aewpvcxAwTk Comment by ggibson1 — December 30, 2007 @ 6:29 pm</em> So gibbon, how long are you going to spam TP with your Ron Paul links? They are off topic and most people here don't have much use for Ron Paul since they are smart enough to really look into what he believes in. If you think Ron Paul is who should be our President, you definitely are not a liberal or a progressive. NEOCONNED! Part 1 of 11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aewpvcxAwTk
Comment by ggibson1 — December 30, 2007 @ 6:29 pm

So gibbon, how long are you going to spam TP with your Ron Paul links? They are off topic and most people here don’t have much use for Ron Paul since they are smart enough to really look into what he believes in. If you think Ron Paul is who should be our President, you definitely are not a liberal or a progressive.

]]> By: MiMiCcs http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/comment-page-1/#comment-4209230 MiMiCcs Mon, 31 Dec 2007 00:50:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/#comment-4209230 Anyone calling Islamists fascists knows not what is fascism. Anyways, we created Communism and Islamism. We did not create Fascism, that was Mussolini, admired by GWB's grand-daddy and a number of other Americans, and so welcome to American Bush Fascism. Already there economically, are pretty much there politically with the merging of the Democratic and Republican party into the Corporate Party. Socially, fascism will come during the next depression which will hit in 2008 or 2009, and Blackwater will help out with Martial law since we already pretty much killed off the National Guard over Iraq. Concentration camps are already built. Surveillance systems in place. Means to restrict travel- check. Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act-almost. Ability to suspend Habeus Corpus - check. Bill to disarm returning veterans-check, Torture ok-check. Personal Property Confiscation Allowed-Check. And the good thing is, with all the Laws and Executive Orders passed over the years, everything will be done legally. And if they bend or break the law, well, they own the judges and the MSM. Like Huey Long (or someone ) said 70 years ago, "When fascism comes to America it will come wrapped in a flag, carrying a cross, and called anti-fascism". Maybe he was tipped off? Anyone calling Islamists fascists knows not what is fascism.

Anyways, we created Communism and Islamism. We did not create Fascism, that was Mussolini, admired by GWB’s grand-daddy and a number of other Americans, and so welcome to American Bush Fascism. Already there economically, are pretty much there politically with the merging of the Democratic and Republican party into the Corporate Party.

Socially, fascism will come during the next depression which will hit in 2008 or 2009, and Blackwater will help out with Martial law since we already pretty much killed off the National Guard over Iraq. Concentration camps are already built. Surveillance systems in place. Means to restrict travel- check. Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act-almost. Ability to suspend Habeus Corpus – check. Bill to disarm returning veterans-check, Torture ok-check. Personal Property Confiscation Allowed-Check. And the good thing is, with all the Laws and Executive Orders passed over the years, everything will be done legally. And if they bend or break the law, well, they own the judges and the MSM.

Like Huey Long (or someone ) said 70 years ago, “When fascism comes to America it will come wrapped in a flag, carrying a cross, and called anti-fascism”. Maybe he was tipped off?

]]> By: pete http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/comment-page-1/#comment-4209214 pete Mon, 31 Dec 2007 00:38:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/#comment-4209214 <em> I wonder if Bush ever read 1984?</em> Comment by bilbobaggins — December 30, 2007 @ 7:33 pm I doubt he can read at all but, if he read 1984, he thought it was a book of the Bible. I wonder if Bush ever read 1984?

Comment by bilbobaggins — December 30, 2007 @ 7:33 pm

I doubt he can read at all but, if he read 1984, he thought it was a book of the Bible.

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/comment-page-1/#comment-4209196 bilbobaggins Mon, 31 Dec 2007 00:33:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/#comment-4209196 George Orwell was a prophet. It took a little longer than he thought, but it has come to pass. I wonder if Bush ever read 1984? George Orwell was a prophet. It took a little longer than he thought, but it has come to pass. I wonder if Bush ever read 1984?

]]> By: pete http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/comment-page-1/#comment-4209077 pete Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:43:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/#comment-4209077 <em>You spineless Libtards just want the Islamofascists to win. You won’t be happy until they end up nuking a US city. Comment by BernardQuatermass</em> Is a case of "name jacking". You spineless Libtards just want the Islamofascists to win.
You won’t be happy until they end up nuking a US city.
Comment by BernardQuatermass

Is a case of “name jacking”.

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/comment-page-1/#comment-4209060 bilbobaggins Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:31:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/#comment-4209060 <em>You spineless Libtards just want the Islamofascists to win. You won’t be happy until they end up nuking a US city. Comment by BernardQuatermass</em> You war-mongering Rightards just want the Fascists to win. You won't be happy until you have completely shredded the constitution and put everyone who doesn't agree to become a Fascist in prison. BTW, how are the so-called Islamofascists (the stupidest made-up word ever) going to nuke us? Do you really believe you can fit a nuclear weapon in a suitcase? You spineless Libtards just want the Islamofascists to win.
You won’t be happy until they end up nuking a US city.
Comment by BernardQuatermass

You war-mongering Rightards just want the Fascists to win. You won’t be happy until you have completely shredded the constitution and put everyone who doesn’t agree to become a Fascist in prison.

BTW, how are the so-called Islamofascists (the stupidest made-up word ever) going to nuke us? Do you really believe you can fit a nuclear weapon in a suitcase?

]]> By: ggibson1 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/comment-page-1/#comment-4209058 ggibson1 Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:29:59 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/30/us-seen-internationally-as-an-endemic-surveillance-society/#comment-4209058 <i> And all of these so called “Libertarians” (who are nothing but right wingers that are afraid to properly identify themselves) have been completely silent while Bush has desecrated the Constitution and stolen our mandated rights. But while Clinton was President, these “Libertarians” couldn’t see enough black helicopters and they saw a conspiracy to destroy the Constitution around every corner. Comment by OxyCon </i> NEOCONNED! Part 1 of 11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aewpvcxAwTk
And all of these so called “Libertarians” (who are nothing but right wingers that are afraid to properly identify themselves) have been completely silent while Bush has desecrated the Constitution and stolen our mandated rights.
But while Clinton was President, these “Libertarians” couldn’t see enough black helicopters and they saw a conspiracy to destroy the Constitution around every corner.

Comment by OxyCon

NEOCONNED! Part 1 of 11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aewpvcxAwTk

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