Bush Issues Signing Statement Undermining Sudan Accountability And Divestment Act
Bush Issues Signing Statement Undermining Sudan Accountability And Divestment Act
Yesterday, President Bush signed the Sudan Accountability and Divestment Act, which makes it easier for “states, local governments and private investors to cut investment ties with Sudan as a way to pressure the Khartoum government into ending violence in the country’s Darfur region.” Both the House and the Senate passed the bill unanimously.
Bush has claimed an intense interest and outrage at the situation in Sudan, going so far as to call killings in Darfur “genocide” in 2005. Yet his signature on the legislation yesterday was accompanied by a signing statement, in which he reserved the right to “overrule” divestment decisions if they conflict with administration foreign policy. The New York Times notes:
But the administration has expressed reservations about the bill, and Mr. Bush’s signature was accompanied by a proviso known as a signing statement, in which he said he was reserving the authority to overrule state and local divestment decisions if they conflicted with foreign policy. The statement said the measure “risks being interpreted as insulating” state and local divestment actions from federal oversight.
Unfortunately, the Bush administration’s foreign policy hasn’t always put pressure on Sudan. In May, the State Department released its 2006 terrorism report, in which it called Sudan a “strong partner in the War on Terror“:
The Sudanese government was a strong partner in the War on Terror and aggressively pursued terrorist operations directly involving threats to U.S. interests and personnel in Sudan.
Hundreds of thousands of people have died in Darfur, and 2.5 million more have been forced to flee their homes. Twenty-two states and more than fifty universities have already “passed divestment measures from problematic companies in Sudan.”
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make no mistake about “administration foreign policy” toward sudan… sudan has large oil reserves and, consequently, is being painted as a “terrorist haven” to better justify u.s. intervention… the “signing statement” merely preserves the policy of unilateral executive decision-making and intervention that has characterized the bush administration since day one…
And, yes, I DO take it personally
January 1st, 2008 at 4:21 pmMob Torches Kenyan Church; At Least 270 Killed in Election Riots
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,319331,00.html
… so which Democrat is going to Kenya to explain property rights to these Kenyans?
January 1st, 2008 at 4:29 pmBush’s latest signing statement is a timely reminder that he does whatever the hell he pleases, no matter what Congress votes as law.
Welcome to Fascist America. Make your New Years Resolution to read “The End of America,” by Naomi Wolf. It costs just $15 in paperback. Buy an extra copy and give it to a friend. Make Wolf’s list of 10 similarities between the US and all fascist regimes a topic of discussion across the land.
January 1st, 2008 at 4:36 pmHas the United States become a diktatorship yet?
If so, no one can say that they weren’t forwarned…
“You don’t get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a lot easier.” — Responding to the difficulties of governing Texas, “The Taming of Texas,” Governing Magazine (July 1998); also cited in Is our Children Learning?: The Case Against George W. Bush (2000) by Paul Begala.)
“I told all four [congressional leaders] that I felt like this election happened for a reason; that it pointed out — the delay in the outcome should make it clear to all of us — that we can come together to heal whatever wounds may exist, whatever residuals there may be. And I really look forward to the opportunity. I hope they’ve got my sense of optimism about the possible, and enthusiasm about the job. I told all four that there are going to be some times where we don’t agree with each other, but that’s okay. If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier… [Bush chuckles, audience laughs] …just so long as I’m the dictator [more laughter].” Online NewsHour interview, Washington, DC, (December 18, 2000)’ during his first trip to Washington as President-elect. The last sentence is also included in Fahrenheit 9/11.
“Dealing with Congress is a matter of give and take. The president doesn’t get everything he wants, the Congress doesn’t get everything they want. But we’re finding good common ground. A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there’s no question about it.”
January 1st, 2008 at 4:36 pmStatement, Washington, DC, (July 26, 2001); as quoted in the Seattle Seattle Post-Intelligencer (July 27, 2001).
Let nothing ye dismay Halliburton and the oil giants from exploit… pardon me, investing in Sudanese oil profits….
(How many LED’s have you got now, dimbulb?)
January 1st, 2008 at 4:38 pmBushitler maintains corporate power and profit over human lives.
Happy New Year to all.
January 1st, 2008 at 4:39 pmTypical Bush - sign the law to make it look like he is going to do something about the atrocities of Sudan and against the Sudanese position in terror
Then write a signing statement that says exactly the opposite.
Dumb Question: Which one gets reported on the evening news ?
January 1st, 2008 at 4:42 pm# 1. Comment by profmarcus
January 1st, 2008 at 4:43 pmExcellent video.
No longer am I anticipating justice …. our blackmailed congress is too cowardly to go forward with what the Constitution intended. But I am horrified at the possibility on just how far the Bush Crime Family will go with these Hitler signing statements. Can our country take one more year of this crap?
Anything with a ’signing statement’ is just another piece of paper.
January 1st, 2008 at 4:44 pm… so which Democrat is going to Kenya to explain property rights to these Kenyans?
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — January 1, 2008 @ 4:29 pm
Now, now, don’t get your knickers all in a bunch.
Kenya - not much oil found yet - no action yet
Sudan - plenty oil found - plenty action to purtect innerests.
S’easy really, even youse can learn.
January 1st, 2008 at 4:46 pmThis doesn’t surprise me. He also signed a bill on transparency and FOIA in the last couple of days. I can’t wait to see if there are signing statements on that one too.
January 1st, 2008 at 4:49 pmThis is a good photo of what sub-Saharan Africans do to each other:
http://www.foxnews.com/ photoessay/ 0,4644,2990,00.html#3_0
January 1st, 2008 at 4:52 pm#10, doro,
No, Dems are going to turn a blind eye, forego the oil, burn renewables and ignore the Sudan. You’re right, t’is easy to learn!
January 1st, 2008 at 4:54 pm… so which Democrat is going to Kenya to explain property rights to these Kenyans?
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — January 1, 2008 @ 4:29 pm
Property rights have what to do with elections and corruption?
January 1st, 2008 at 5:01 pmProperty rights have what to do with elections and corruption?
Comment by toasterhead — January 1, 2008 @ 5:01 pm
jas, that’s a good question… and happy new year ya rw putz!
January 1st, 2008 at 5:04 pm# 13 Jason
please tell me where the Republicans do not turn a blind eye on suffering, your President first and foremost. Hell, they turn a blind eye when it comes to your own people, be it the poor in Louisiana during a hurricane, or lately the elderly, robbed by the Bush Administration- sanctioned greed and grabbing of the drug companies.
Where the hell do they care?
About the people of Darfur they don’t care one bit, the only important thing is, secure the ongoing profits of whoever pays them best. Foreign policy, my foot.
Hell, Clinton at least bombed Serbia’s Milosevic into obedience and they don’t have oil. The Serbs were only killing human beings by the thousands.
A difference?
January 1st, 2008 at 5:11 pmThis is a good photo of what sub-Saharan Africans do to each other:
http://www.foxnews.com/ photoessay/ 0,4644,2990,00.html#3_0
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — January 1, 2008 @ 4:52 pm
No, that’s a photo of what people do to each other when they commit acts of violence. Eastern Europeans and Native Americans and Southeast Asians and Pacific Islanders and plenty of other groups are more than capable of such violence. Why single out sub-Saharan Africans?
January 1st, 2008 at 5:12 pm#14, toasterhead,
I bet when your fellow progs see you asking this question, they will all groan, know what is to follow.
The first tenet of property rights is that no one can own another human being. If you do not own another human being, then you have no right to kill, harm, rape, etc. another human being.
The second tenet of property rights is that no one owns the fruits of another’s labors. If you do not own another human being, then you do not receive the benefits of their work - you cannot pimp them, force them to serve you, create products for you to sell, etc.
NOW do you understand the importance of property rights with respect to sub-Saharan African cultures? In Christian societies, these rights are self-evident, because we recognize human beings as God’s most divine creations. You needn’t convert these cultures to Christianity, but they will never emerge from distopia without recognizing and enforcing property rights.
January 1st, 2008 at 5:12 pm#17, toasterhead,
I didn’t single them out - this is a thread on sub-Saharan Africa, and I am showing you the single most important factor as to why these cultures are in such dire straights.
January 1st, 2008 at 5:13 pmNOW do you understand the importance of property rights with respect to sub-Saharan African cultures? In Christian societies, these rights are self-evident, because we recognize human beings as God’s most divine creations. You needn’t convert these cultures to Christianity, but they will never emerge from distopia without recognizing and enforcing property rights.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — January 1, 2008 @ 5:12 pm
You mean Christian societies like Kenya, which is 45% Protestant and 33% Roman Catholic?
January 1st, 2008 at 5:15 pmIf we want this government to remain a democracy and some amount of credibility and accountability, it is time to outlaw these signing statements. What in the hell is the use of having the President sign a bill to only then turn around and gut the bill. Weasels like Bush don’t have the courage to veto the bill (when it has great bi-partisan support) so he pulls an underhanded trick by signing the bill and then issuing a signing statement. So, what number signing statement is this one? Is it #19999?
January 1st, 2008 at 5:16 pmRe: Post #12 — Just for the sake of balance, check out the photos demonstrating the effects of depleted uranium in Iraq (which you probably won’t find published on Faux Noose)…
http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/2003/DU-Baby2003.htm
January 1st, 2008 at 5:18 pmI didn’t single them out - this is a thread on sub-Saharan Africa, and I am showing you the single most important factor as to why these cultures are in such dire straights.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — January 1, 2008 @ 5:13 pm
No, it’s a thread on Western Sudan, which is an extremely different culture than Kenya. Your lumping of these together in an attempt to illustrate the problems of “these cultures” shows your inherent racism. Would you attempt to explain economic problems in Germany by discussing Spanish politics? What about using British culture as an example of why Serbia is in dire straits? You don’t lump Europeans together like this, do you?
January 1st, 2008 at 5:18 pm… so which Democrat is going to Kenya to explain property rights to these Kenyans?
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Loon troll JMH thinks we should go to Kenya and explain property rights to them. I really don’t know why he thinks it is any of our business. But, he’s one of the right wing loons who thinks it’s fine for us to be the bully of the world butting our noses in where they don’t belong. The only reason I can see for our government to but into someone else’s business is to protect innocent people who don’t have the protection of their government. Other than that, we need to butt the hell out of other country’s business and take care of the mess we have here at home.
January 1st, 2008 at 5:19 pmComment by Jason M. Hendler — January 1, 2008 @ 5:12 pm
Phew Jason, were you born that way or did it come by degrees? Did the ydrug you in your youth?
Have you ever bothered to read up on modern slavery and who profits? Asian, African, South American sweatshops and who buys the cheap stuff?
Property rights - Christian societies - man you are one blind sucker!
January 1st, 2008 at 5:20 pmAnd Jason Man Handler seeks to derail another thread with his off-topic mutterings.
Nothing to say about signing statements, Jason? Nothing to say about Sudan? Nothing to say about the politics of divestment?
I haven’t been logging that much time here for the last few days, but it seems like Jason has abandoned his “cold_hard_left” identity. Can anyone confirm this?
January 1st, 2008 at 5:21 pmYou don’t need to even read a book to see what a fascist state we have become. This is the most succinct explanation I have seen to date.
http://www.counterpunch.org/lendman12172007.html
As for property rights…ever hear of eminent domain? Hell, one of Bush’s many signing statements says if he deems you have any terrorist connection (proof not needed) they can take everything you own. Sorry, property rights doesn’t mean much these days.
January 1st, 2008 at 5:23 pmComment by Jason M. Hendler — January 1, 2008 @ 5:12 pm
Individual rights, privacy, etc. started with the concept of Natural Law and Natural Rights, not Christianity.
Christianity ruling Europe was the cause of the Dark Ages and a thousand years of genocide. We should have learned our lesson by now.
Look at the Declaration of Independance. It does not cite Jesus or Christianity, but it does cite Natural Rights and Natural Law.
January 1st, 2008 at 5:23 pmComment by Jason M. Hendler — January 1, 2008 @ 5:12 pm
You mean Christian societies like Kenya, which is 45% Protestant and 33% Roman Catholic?
Comment by toasterhead — January 1, 2008 @ 5:15 pm
OUCH! That’s gonna leave a mark, Jason. Might be time to log on as another one of your troll identities.
January 1st, 2008 at 5:23 pmI haven’t been logging that much time here for the last few days, but it seems like Jason has abandoned his “cold_hard_left†identity. Can anyone confirm this?
Comment by ralph the wonder llama
Yes you are right on that one. And one day last week he adopted another new moniker that promptly was crucified so he took back his Jason moniker. I sure do hope that when the moderators of TP get back from vacation, they will rid this site of Jason, Frank, Golly and the other trolls who are here for one and one reason only. That reason is to disrupt threads and gain attention to themselves. I am starting to think that TP likes them here since they drive threads up to 400+ posts even though most of them are regulars beating their head against a stone wall.
If TP won’t get rid of these cretins, how about we do it by ignoring them and not reacting? How about a new year’s pledge. I’ll take it if you will.
January 1st, 2008 at 5:25 pmSadly enough European women are explaining property rights to young Kenian men, alright. “I paid for two weeks of your company, I own you for two weeks.” Kenya is one of Europe’s main destinations for female sex-tourism and there are still tourists going there.
January 1st, 2008 at 5:27 pmYou mean Christian societies like Kenya, which is 45% Protestant and 33% Roman Catholic?
Comment by toasterhead — January 1, 2008 @ 5:15 pm
Good point.
January 1st, 2008 at 5:27 pmThe only reason I can see for our government to but into someone else’s business is to protect innocent people who don’t have the protection of their government. Other than that, we need to butt the hell out of other country’s business and take care of the mess we have here at home.
Comment by bilbobaggins — January 1, 2008 @ 5:19 pm
I think we should be involved in aiding developing countries in many areas - eradicating poverty, stopping AIDS and other diseases, improving education, encouraging fair trade, etc. From a purely altruistic perspective, it’s the right thing to do, and from a practical perspective it creates future allies and trading partners.
The problem with foreign assistance from the U.S. and Europe historically has been that it serves mainly the West (and a few rich and corrupt developing world pols) at the expense of the billions who live in the developing world. This is what needs to change. Not “African culture,” whatever that is.
January 1st, 2008 at 5:28 pmI am starting to think that TP likes them here since they drive threads up to 400+ posts even though most of them are regulars beating their head against a stone wall.
If TP won’t get rid of these cretins, how about we do it by ignoring them and not reacting? How about a new year’s pledge. I’ll take it if you will.
Comment by bilbobaggins — January 1, 2008 @ 5:25 pm
I think you’re right bilbo. The TP mods like a certain amount of troll activity as it drives up traffic. Truth be told, I’m ambivalent about them for the same reason. As annoying and disruptive and useless as most of them are, I do enjoy a good game of Whack-A-Trollâ„¢ every once in a while. Plus few things are as uninteresting as an echo chamber with no dissenting voices.
It’s just a damn shame so few of the right-wingers who visit here are capable of constructing solid arguments in favor of their positions. The overwhelming majority of them are not very bright, like Southern Man or Frank M, or just transparently looking to disrupt discussions, like Jason, O’Biggie and the rest.
January 1st, 2008 at 5:33 pmOT;
Michigan 41
Florida….35
Congratulations to Lloyd Carr on capping off a 28 year run as a Michigan coach(13 as head coach), finishing as the 3rd best coaching record at Michigan…behind Glenn “Bo” Schembechler and Fielding H. Yost.
January 1st, 2008 at 5:34 pmI think we should be involved in aiding developing countries in many areas - eradicating poverty, stopping AIDS and other diseases, improving education, encouraging fair trade, etc. From a purely altruistic perspective, it’s the right thing to do, and from a practical perspective it creates future allies and trading partners.
Comment by toasterhead — January 1, 2008 @ 5:28 pm
Why not just put end to poverty, inequality, then provide healthcare and equal opportunity for education to all, here, in the US first. Then we will have an example for others to follow.
At this point it is hypocrites trying to rule over hypocrites.
Clean our own backyard before complaining about the neighbor’s backyard.
January 1st, 2008 at 5:37 pmIn my view, the tragic conflicts in Sub-Saharan Africa are the result of Climate Change. Prolonged Drought has set Shepherds against Farmers, and ethnic groups against each other, as the rain stops, the grass dries up, and the food dissappears.
The Rwandan genocide was preceeded by a prolonged drought, producing desperate people.
Desertification is the canary in the Climate change coal mine.
January 1st, 2008 at 5:43 pmCurmudgeon: Depleted Uranium will soon be on the lips of all americans. The bush administration and it’s two predecessors are guilty of crimes against humanity in the use of this banned substance. The horrible thing is that the diagnosis of contamination from DU and it’s accompanying ailments is being covertly disguised as “PTSD”. So, that means that VA docs must be in on the conspiracy at this point.
These military men who are exposed to the depleted uranium carry the toxicity in their bodies, infect their wives, and produce deformed children. If this administration can do this to our military and their families without batting an eyelash, then one must ask oneself the obvious question: Do you still think that masterminding or at least complicity in the 911 killing of New Yorkers is any different at all from what we are doing to our war heroes?? I think not.
January 1st, 2008 at 5:48 pmBush negotiates with ‘axis of evil’ member North Korea. He supports terrorist nation Libya. He offers Terrorist Welfare Programs to Iraqi insurgent groups. Now he’s soft on genocide in Darfur. Plus a US diplomat was assassinated in Sudan today.
George W. Bush, soft on terrorists.
-GSD
January 1st, 2008 at 5:49 pmY’all,
Don’t feed JACKASS MORON HITLER!! He’s a worthless troll!! A complete waste of time, space, carbon and hydrogen!!
He’s a racist phu(k who thinks he gradumanated frum an “Ivy League” school called Stanford (Home of the Arrogant) U.! What a loser!!!!
When he talks about Africa, remember that I have links to his RACISTS SH|T! about how blackl Africans cannot lead the way to or participate in Pan-Africanism! That the light skin Africans would lead Africa to Pan-Africanism!!!
What A RACISTS A$$H0LE!!!
PHU(K YOU JMH!!! YOU RACIST SH|T!!!
Stupid to the core!! And just can’t stop being stupid here everyday too!!!
January 1st, 2008 at 5:51 pmOr any different than the murders of our 4,000 military heroes in an illegal war based on lies?? Or the collateral damage of innocent Iraqis killed by us to the tune of several hundred thousand?? Or the orphaning of some 10,000+ Iraqi children? If this is cold, calculating murder and genocide than I don’t know what is. And we continue to remain there with no accomplishable goal possible - while america’s finest and best are being flown back in coffins draped with flags.
Two wrongs never made a right; remaining in Iraq at this point, thanks to the complicit Congress should mean that each and every one of them from Bush down the chain needs charges brought against them for war crimes at this point.
January 1st, 2008 at 5:51 pmBTW, which signing statement is this?? #980?? More than every presidency combined, this dweeb uses signing statements to create his own laws. Sick.
January 1st, 2008 at 5:52 pmWhy not just put end to poverty, inequality, then provide healthcare and equal opportunity for education to all, here, in the US first. Then we will have an example for others to follow.
At this point it is hypocrites trying to rule over hypocrites.
Clean our own backyard before complaining about the neighbor’s backyard.
Comment by Wayne — January 1, 2008 @ 5:37 pm
Because poverty and inequality in the US is tied with poverty and inequality abroad. We live in a global economy and a global society. Poverty in China or Sri Lanka or El Salvador leads American manufacturers to exploit the people of these countries for cheap labor, leading to the loss of American jobs and increased poverty at home, plus increased migration of undocumented workers to the US. It also breeds anti-American sentiment around the world, which allows more violent elements such as al-Qa’ida to grow.
And it is a moral responsibility. The problems most developing countries face are not entirely of their own making - they are a direct result of U.S. and European interference, starting with colonialism and slavery and continuing with corporate slavery, “free trade” agreements, and the Breton Woods institutions. We have to fix what we’ve broken, at the very least.
I’ve heard the “we need to clean our own house first” argument plenty of times and I don’t buy it. The 300 million of us are more than capable of doing both.
January 1st, 2008 at 5:52 pmdixie blood: You’re right on every count. This is one sorry, worthless troll whom I never take the time to engage directly with. Everyone should do the same and shut him TF out, once and for all.
January 1st, 2008 at 5:53 pmDesertification is the canary in the Climate change coal mine.
Comment by Badger — January 1, 2008 @ 5:43 pm
So is the melting of the polar caps. In fact if the halocline water currents stop or slow, desertification will increase and massive die-offs may occur in the oceans, and by consequence, on land as well. It’s not just about the weather, but changing our whole environment.
January 1st, 2008 at 5:56 pmI’ve heard the “we need to clean our own house first†argument plenty of times and I don’t buy it. The 300 million of us are more than capable of doing both.
Comment by toasterhead — January 1, 2008 @ 5:52 pm
You need to volunteer at the local shelter some time. Talk to the people that have to ask for change on the corner. You will see that We are not doing it here.
If you are not capable enough to help your own citizens, you damn F_cking sure are not capable of helping others elsewhere.
January 1st, 2008 at 6:02 pmSimple fact.
Jason must have put in a big Thinksgiving donation (e.g. maxed out his credit card) to still be posting here.
January 1st, 2008 at 6:04 pm#20 NOW do you understand the importance of property rights with respect to sub-Saharan African cultures? In Christian societies, these rights are self-evident, because we recognize human beings as God’s most divine creations. You needn’t convert these cultures to Christianity, but they will never emerge from distopia without recognizing and enforcing property rights.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — January 1, 2008 @ 5:12 pm
You mean Christian societies like Kenya, which is 45% Protestant and 33% Roman Catholic?
Comment by toasterhead — January 1, 2008 @ 5:15 pm
Curious mentality, the one of the conservative trolls at TP: Darryll also is trying to “christianize” Brazil, a country where the main religions are Roman Catholic 73.6%, Protestant 15.4%.ç
Maybe they mean “bigotize” instead of “christianize”.
January 1st, 2008 at 6:04 pmVeritas,
The other day he was claiming to be an expert in the auto industry because he worked at a GM tech or training facility!!
Imagine the stupidy of that!! This useless phu(k was talking down people who had worked at GM for DECADES!!
How would anyone but a complete moron or BU||SHIT ARTIST say that? Last time I looked the auto industry was GLOBAL in nature and there’s NO WAY JACKA$$ MORON HITLER could be an expert at that level!!
He’s a liar, sh|thead (don’t forget warmongering coward 2 years ago!!) REPUGNISCUM TROLL!!!
January 1st, 2008 at 6:06 pm#20 NOW do you understand the importance of property rights with respect to sub-Saharan African cultures? In Christian societies, these rights are self-evident, because we recognize human beings as God’s most divine creations. You needn’t convert these cultures to Christianity, but they will never emerge from distopia without recognizing and enforcing property rights.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — January 1, 2008 @ 5:12 pm
THIS IS PURE RACIST SHJT!!!!!!
IT’S ALSO EMBRACING THE ENEMY OF DEMOCRACY WHAT IS THEOCRACY!!!
SHI|THEADS LIKE THIS ARE ENEMIES OF THE STATE!!!
THIS COUNTRY WAS NOT FOUNDED FOR CHRISTIANISTAS LIKE JACKASS MORON HITLER!!!
January 1st, 2008 at 6:13 pmJason must have put in a big Thinksgiving donation (e.g. maxed out his credit card) to still be posting here.
Comment by Nachos of Justice
I had a thought along the same line, still I was giving him credit for being here today as the token troll.
January 1st, 2008 at 6:13 pmThe rest of his ideological associates must have burned out their last spare brain cells last night, and are simply quivering blobs of drooling turd blossoms today.
Comment by toasterhead — January 1, 2008 @ 5:52 pm
I must also add.
January 1st, 2008 at 6:13 pmMost of the current sweatshops in other countries are a direct cause of outsourcing by the corporations of this country, which is killing our own job market while taking advantage of the labor force of other countries.
Bush is as transparent as his hedge . . . anytime he pretends to extend a branch . . . he hedges.
Because he hedges, he fails to cultivate. Bush’s ability to hedge on critical policies depends upon the premise that they are viable tactics, embeded in the diplomatic bulkheads that America has historically constructed and maintained; unfortunately, due to the abuse and utter neglect such constructs have suffered under his administration, American and our international infrastructure are like the New Orleans levees that Katrina-tides didn’t only undermine, they destroyed.
The Shrub’s hedges have no roots or sustainability. They offer no foundation for American foreign policy or longevity.
Bush’s still signing his statements. . . . he defiantly continues to fuel the Katrinathat’s coming . . .
Must the oil burn out before he sees the light.
Even Christians may look upon eight days of light without oil as a miracle in the aftermath of the Decider . . .
After all, he’s not just a Texan (hedge, Yale/Harvard) oil (hedge, bankrupted oil companies, never struck black gold, but did get Blackwater rich), family man (hedge, “Hardest decision I ever had to make was asking Laura to marry me” after a three month romance preceded by a five-year coke binge), reformed alcoholic (hedge, “I wouldn’t be here if I hadn’t given up whiskey”, he says while politely sipping a nice cool Heinie), he’s the UNITER (hedge . . . Hah! Like I have room).
January 1st, 2008 at 6:14 pmunlike our blood boiling compatriots…………………….
January 1st, 2008 at 6:15 pmMost of the current sweatshops in other countries are a direct cause of outsourcing by the corporations of this country, which is killing our own job market while taking advantage of the labor force of other countries.
Comment by Wayne
Right on, Wayne…..
January 1st, 2008 at 6:16 pmI feel like talking about CAIR, the nation’s rising civil rights groups, since the thread’s topic is exausted. Here’s some support of CAIR as a civil rights front:
In 1998, “CAIR denied bin Laden’s responsibility for the two al-Qaida bombings of American embassies in Africa. CAIR’s leader Ibrahim Hooper claimed the bombings resulted from ‘misunderstandings on both sides.’â€
“On October 5, 2001, just weeks after 9/11, CAIR’s New York office sent a letter to The New York Times arguing that the paper had misidentified three of the hijackers and suggesting that the attacks may have been committed by people who were impersonating Arab Muslims.â€
January 1st, 2008 at 6:18 pmI’m tired of Jason M. Hendler’s racist shit. I hope everyone else is flagging him, like I am.
January 1st, 2008 at 6:18 pmYou need to volunteer at the local shelter some time. Talk to the people that have to ask for change on the corner. You will see that We are not doing it here.
If you are not capable enough to help your own citizens, you damn F_cking sure are not capable of helping others elsewhere.
Simple fact.
Comment by Wayne — January 1, 2008 @ 6:02 pm
You have a good point - there are a great number of people who are falling through the cracks in the social safety net. We - and by that I mean our government, our society, and me personally - do need to do more to help those people in the shelters.
However, it’s also important to see what life is like in countries where there is no safety net. I’ve been to several, and it’s a completely different definition of poverty.
January 1st, 2008 at 6:19 pm“CAIR has links to both Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood. Terrorism expert Steven Emerson has stated before Congress that CAIR is a front for Hamas.â€
January 1st, 2008 at 6:20 pmIn 1998, “CAIR demanded the removal of a Los Angeles billboard describing Osama bin Laden as ‘the sworn enemy,’ asserting that this depiction [was] ‘offensive to Muslims.’â€
January 1st, 2008 at 6:21 pm# 50 Wayne, and taking advantage of your own labour force. Look at the development of US average wages.
January 1st, 2008 at 6:22 pmJason’s stay has been bought and paid for, apparently. In that case, his termination will have to be bought and paid for.
We should all chip in.
January 1st, 2008 at 6:28 pmComment by Nachos of Justice — January 1, 2008 @ 6:20 pm
You’ve got you’re own blog — take it there.
January 1st, 2008 at 6:28 pmI’ve been to several, and it’s a completely different definition of poverty.
Comment by toasterhead — January 1, 2008 @ 6:19 pm
Thats true. But the billions the US hands petty dictators every year, in the guise of foreign aid is not helping those people. Those people never see one dime of benefit.
We need to fix our system at home and we need to stop lining the pockets of dictators who are the reason their people are in such dire poverty.
If we are to provide foreign aid, then we must insure every cent goes to benefit the people that need the help.
Foreign aid is currently broken beyond repair, it needs a total revamp.
January 1st, 2008 at 6:29 pmQuite frankly . . . fail to see how the minimum wage, outsourcing or the CAIR connection to bin Laden has to do with the urgent need to take action to save Dafur from ongoing genocide.
Yeah, philosophical debate is great . . . you need a raise . . . you fear your job may be outsourced . . .
I assure you, philosophy is a luxury fleeing refugees would love to debate, they’d probably give you a foot to get their beheaded father back if they didn’t need it to flee upon . . . your job ain’t being outsourced to Dafur.
January 1st, 2008 at 6:29 pmStop the madness. For a fraction of the cost of a day in Iraq, we could make a magnificent differnece.
Provide the helicopters as requested. Celebrities don’t always merit acknowledgement . . . But . . .
GRANT GEORGE CLOONEY HIS HELICOPTORS!
It’s worth a shot.
What’s a life worth? Yours? Mine? A fleeing refugee among a nation of refugees?
January 1st, 2008 at 6:36 pm# 50 Wayne, and taking advantage of your own labour force. Look at the development of US average wages.
Comment by doro — January 1, 2008 @ 6:22 pm
Definitely. Before Posse Comitatus was passed, crooked politicians sent US troops to kill striking mine workers and other striking workers too many times. Too bad the John Warner Act killed Posse Comatitus as well as Habeus Corpus.
January 1st, 2008 at 6:36 pmIf we are to provide foreign aid, then we must insure every cent goes to benefit the people that need the help.
Foreign aid is currently broken beyond repair, it needs a total revamp.
Comment by Wayne — January 1, 2008 @ 6:29 pm
Agreed.
January 1st, 2008 at 6:40 pm. . . but please, don’t outsource the job to Blackwater . . . last thing we need is a Blackwater occupation of Sudan.
(Cheney’s salivating . . . got geologicals, a dip stick for a cane and Halliburton amping up)
January 1st, 2008 at 6:43 pmYou’ve got you’re own blog — take it there.
Comment by Zooey — January 1, 2008 @ 6:28 pm
I HOPE YOU HAD A GREAT CHRISTMAS ZOOEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like posting here, too. It’s good eye-xercise.
Good blessings!
January 1st, 2008 at 6:50 pmOnce again, Bush has shown us that he does not care what the laws are - he will do as he pleases. Laws don’t apply to him, after all he is king — no, kings are often benign monarchs - Bush is a dictator.
January 1st, 2008 at 6:55 pmThe thugs in Sudan must have objected to some of the provisions in the bill as they related to responsibility and accountability.
January 1st, 2008 at 6:55 pmSorta sounds like the thugs in Iraq who objected to similar legislation very recently which resulted in George W. Bush’s veto.
Gee, what George W. Bush won’t do for his “friends” (as long as he’s well paid for his efforts)!
Comment by Nachos of Justice — January 1, 2008 @ 6:50 pm
I hope you had a good Christmas, CT.
January 1st, 2008 at 7:02 pmResign, Hendler.
January 1st, 2008 at 7:03 pmIf whomever asked about the signing statement I was referring to was actually referring to me, here’s the link.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/ news/ releases/ 2007/ 07/ 20070717-3.html
It’s an executive order. Enjoy. This is just one of many.
January 1st, 2008 at 7:05 pmHell, they turn a blind eye when it comes to your own people, be it the poor in Louisiana during a hurricane, or lately the elderly, robbed by the Bush Administration- sanctioned greed and grabbing of the drug companies.
January 1st, 2008 at 7:10 pmComment by doro It is all about
the shock Doctrine..
Shock and then go in for the kill/raid/change before the masses wake up.
It was KNOWN those levies in New Orleans were in bad shape and Bush is also on video being told of the seriousness before it happened. NOTHING was done, the SHOCK happened and look how corporate America is reaping the benefits. 9/11 - another SHOCK…and notice the political gain, signing statements, corporate gain… SHOCK and Awe to Iraq and more corporate gain. I fear what the next SHOCK is going to be.
It’s an executive order. Enjoy. This is just one of many.
Comment by Ms_Joanne — January 1, 2008 @ 7:05 pm
Ugh. The “we’ll take everything you own, and you’ll never know why, and if anyone tries to help you, we’ll take their shit too” EO.
January 1st, 2008 at 7:10 pmExecutive, schmecutive..
Doesn’t congress have the power to override one of those things?
January 1st, 2008 at 7:17 pmZooey, yup.
As for the friggin head of homeland security (zig heil!) who was the deputy head of HS at the time said they never anticipated that this “perfect storm” would happen. Chertoff is the biggest joke (well, fitting for his position for a joke of an organization) out there.
Glad they’re so on top of that worst case scenario thingie.
*I* could run HS better…but they don’t want good. They want to create the ongoing feeling of total terror. Whenever anything goes wrong in the world, it’s terrorism, al qaeda, #2, #3,etc. Love how fast it was that it was determined that al qaeda killed Bhutto. Yup…fell right into line.
January 1st, 2008 at 7:17 pmDoesn’t congress have the power to override one of those things?
Comment by Nachos of Justice — January 1, 2008 @ 7:17 pm
This Congress?
**snort**
January 1st, 2008 at 7:19 pmIt was KNOWN those levies in New Orleans were in bad shape and Bush is also on video being told of the seriousness before it happened. NOTHING was done
The buck doesn’t stop on the White House door step . . . it stops on yours.
Happy New Year Zooey!
January 1st, 2008 at 7:21 pmComment by Ms_Joanne — January 1, 2008 @ 7:17 pm
Yeah, they claim to “never anticipate” a lot of things, don’t they? 9/11 was their biggest wet dream, and it enabled them to accomplish goals they’d had since the Nixon days. “They” being Cheney et al.
January 1st, 2008 at 7:22 pmWhat kills me about the signing statements is that they are simply not law. They are not legally enforceable.
January 1st, 2008 at 7:23 pmHappy New Year, rockyroad! :-)
Every time I see your name, I want ice cream. Not sure why…
January 1st, 2008 at 7:24 pmWhat kills me about the signing statements is that they are simply not law. They are not legally enforceable.
Comment by Alejandro — January 1, 2008 @ 7:23 pm
But no one seems to be challenging them in the courts. And if anyone tried, I’m sure the Bush-owned courts would throw out any case for “national security” reasons.
January 1st, 2008 at 7:25 pmDoesn’t congress have the power to override one of those things?
January 1st, 2008 at 7:37 pmComment by Nachos of Justice —
By the time we get a Congress not afraid to override, do their job of oversight, from fear of being blackmailed resulting from the illegal spying (Bush is making legal retro active, spying he said he needed because of 9/11 even though it was done before 9/11) NOTHING is going to get done.
No longer do I look forward to justice, but look forward for this mess to be over before more damage is done. And, if and when justice prevails…. Bush will be long gone in Paraguay reaping the benefits of corporate gain…. gain from the looting of our treasury.
Happy 1st everyone!
Well, looks like the JMH troll’s overt racism finally crossed “the line”. Woo-hoo! Bout effing time that one got extirpated.
Back on topic:
Civil war/genocide is the best friend of predatory Imperialism. It’s so much easier to steal resources once the rightful owners are reduced to a pitiful state of helpless fear. It’s the same tactic which made it necessary to return Iraq to the stone age. And it worked flawlessly with the Native Americans.
Despite the despotism, of Saddam, Iraq was a prosperous society. Now? Not so much. Have no fear (sarc), the oil will be flowing before the Chimperror is gone. Everything is going according to plan.
I really, REALLY, hope those evil neocon phucks die slow, agonizing, deaths. Maybe, when we hang ‘em, we could use stretchy ropes so it takes a couple years for them to suffocate?
January 1st, 2008 at 7:40 pmComment by had enough — January 1, 2008 @ 7:37 pm
How about we split his presidential pension between any number of deserving vets!!!
January 1st, 2008 at 8:00 pmhttp://tpzoo.wordpress.com/ 2008/ 01/ 01/ zooeys-six-favorite-things/
Wonderful post Zoo!
Say…during your meeting with nwmuse and egg, did you discuss the trolls?
January 1st, 2008 at 8:06 pmHe pocket vetoed a military expense authorization bill because it contained language making the Iraqi government accountable, but uses a signing statement to undercut accountability by the Sudanese government. What does this say about the enforceability of signing statements? Wouldn’t one be applicable in both cases?
January 1st, 2008 at 8:09 pmHow about we split his presidential pension between any number of deserving vets!!!
Comment by Nachos of Justice
January 1st, 2008 at 8:14 pmNot only his pension, but ALL the assets acquired by the entire Bush and related corporate cabal.
Would be SO healing.
Make sure we covertly support the Sudanese butchers, after all, there must be a few people on the planet we haven’t pissed off yet.
January 1st, 2008 at 8:25 pmHe pocket vetoed a military expense authorization bill because it contained language making the Iraqi government accountable, but uses a signing statement to undercut accountability by the Sudanese government. What does this say about the enforceability of signing statements? Wouldn’t one be applicable in both cases?
Comment by WaltTheMan — January 1, 2008 @ 8:09 pm
A signing statement can be used like a line item veto, only secret-y. They should be banned.
I recently read that a pocket veto, unlike a regular veto, cannot be overriden by Congress — which I probably knew decades ago, but had forgotten.
January 1st, 2008 at 8:33 pmI think we should be involved in aiding developing countries in many areas - eradicating poverty, stopping AIDS and other diseases, improving education, encouraging fair trade, etc. From a purely altruistic perspective, it’s the right thing to do, and from a practical perspective it creates future allies and trading partners.
Comment by toasterhead
I totally agree. I don’t think giving other countries aid is butting into their business unless the aid comes with strings attached. I am just sick and tired of people thinking that we are the arbitrator of right in the world and that the world will come to heel when we tell them to. I am tired of the United States being the world’s bully rather than the world’s friend.
January 1st, 2008 at 8:44 pmI recently read that a pocket veto, unlike a regular veto, cannot be overriden by Congress — which I probably knew decades ago, but had forgotten.
Comment by gummitch
If that is the case then the pocket veto should also be banned. I do not believe that any branch of the government should have any kind of unchecked power. That was the reason for the three branches of government, to share the power and to ensure than none became the supreme power.
January 1st, 2008 at 8:46 pmWell, looks like the JMH troll’s overt racism finally crossed “the lineâ€. Woo-hoo! Bout effing time that one got extirpated.
Could this possibly mean that he has been banned? I wonder how long it will take him to come back with a new moniker. His writing style and thinking process are pretty easy to detect. How long do you think it will be before he is back with another moniker?
January 1st, 2008 at 8:48 pmYou need to volunteer at the local shelter some time. Talk to the people that have to ask for change on the corner. You will see that We are not doing it here.
If you are not capable enough to help your own citizens, you damn F_cking sure are not capable of helping others elsewhere.
Simple fact.
Comment by Wayne
We are capable of helping those here at home at the same time we help people in other nations. I work at the food shelter every Saturday. And most of the people who get food there also work a day or two a month. We are all helping take care of each other. There isn’t much the average American can do to help people in other countries other than to provide funds to help them. But many people are scared to donate to agencies who distribute funds to the needy outside the US since so many of them are pretty much a rip (70% management and 30% actual aid for every dollar). I would love to see a new Democratic President come in and come up with a sensible aid policy to areas of the world that need help. Doing away with “star wars” and other useless military programs would be a good start to find money to help our worldwide neighbors. And, then, stopping spending billions a month in Iraq will also help us take care of ourselves and help take care of other needy neighbors.
January 1st, 2008 at 9:04 pmIf the House meets in session during the ten day period, the pocket veto is subject to override, otherwise; it holds and cannot be overridden. I am not sure what a quorum under House requires.
January 1st, 2008 at 9:07 pmI missed a “rules” between ‘House’ and ‘requires’. Sorry, folks.
January 1st, 2008 at 9:10 pmExecutive, schmecutive..
Doesn’t congress have the power to override one of those things?
Comment by Nachos of Justice
Yes they do, but will they? That’s another question.
January 1st, 2008 at 9:11 pmSay…during your meeting with nwmuse and egg, did you discuss the trolls?
Comment by Nachos of Justice — January 1, 2008 @ 8:06 pm
Why would we?
January 1st, 2008 at 9:13 pmdid you discuss the trolls?
Comment by Nachos of Justice
I overheard these two guys at the Snappy Mart discussing you, one had braces on his nasty green teeth, and the other one kept saying “Shut up, Butthead, just shut up…….
January 1st, 2008 at 9:19 pmYeah, slag, try another version of Clinton did it on for size. That one seems to be tight around your head.
And, by the way, how about that short list of duty stations during your four years in the corps?? You never mentioned it the other day when repeated asked…
January 1st, 2008 at 9:34 pmThe real argument should be over the definition of ‘Congress in Session’. If the Senate is holding a session every day, even for a minute, is that “in Session”? I would think so, and would it then matter if the House was in session or not?
January 1st, 2008 at 9:38 pmslag has gotten into the New Year’s meth.
January 1st, 2008 at 9:56 pmRU,
January 1st, 2008 at 10:01 pmNo, it is unfortunate that a certain piece of mere paper requires that both legs (twigs?) of the legistrative branch meet sporatically in session while on a recess of more than ten days to be able to override a pocket veto.
slag has gotten into the New Year’s meth.
Comment by Lefty Patriot — January 1, 2008 @ 9:56 pm
Nah. No meth required. The slagofman operates on pure, ignorant, hate.
January 1st, 2008 at 10:10 pmslag has gotten into the New Year’s meth.
Comment by Lefty Patriot — January 1, 2008 @ 9:56 pm
He had some left?
January 1st, 2008 at 10:16 pmHey Zooey - got here on a different computer.
Bush’s signing statements are worthless and would never stand up in a court of law. The problem is there is no court in this country that is willing to uphold the laws.
OT - Just spoke with some folks this evening that told me that Exxon has been able to hold up payment for the Exxon Valdez oil spill for 16 years. One of the riches f**king companies in the world refuses to pay for the damage that is has done to the environment and to peoples lives and incomes.
January 1st, 2008 at 10:25 pmHey Cats, nice to have that option!
January 1st, 2008 at 10:26 pmLet’s stop using mealy mouth terms to describe Bush’s unconstitutional actions and start calling them what they really are, in this case they are “Royal Decrees”.
January 1st, 2008 at 10:28 pmLet’s stop using mealy mouth terms to describe Bush’s unconstitutional actions and start calling them what they really are, in this case they are “Royal Decreesâ€.
Comment by OxyCon — January 1, 2008 @ 10:28 pm
I prefer “High Crimes and Felonies”. “Misdemeanors” doesn’t cut it.
January 1st, 2008 at 10:41 pm#96, bulbous bubo,
Obviously my writing style isn’t recognizable, if you think I post here using multiple names. Since TP has methods of verifying poster’s, I couldn’t do it if I wanted, or would have thrown me outta here if I had.
Yes, the Kenyan’s were burned inside a church they were using as a sanctuary, but clearly Christian teachings haven’t sunk in, if they are wielding machetes and burning people to death.
As I stated before, property rights need to be recognized and enforced before sub-Saharan cultures can emerge from dystopia. If you don’t feel Christianity works, then try something else, although natural law may not take either.
As for the other poster who says comparing Kenya to Sudan is like comparing Germany to Spain - you are right, European / Latin based cultures are similar enough to draw comparisons, just as Kenya and Sudan can be compared.
January 1st, 2008 at 10:48 pmZooey - now I’m having difficulty getting to the Zoo. This is crazy.
January 1st, 2008 at 10:50 pmZooey - now I’m having difficulty getting to the Zoo. This is crazy.
Comment by Cats r Flyfishn — January 1, 2008 @ 10:50 pm
One computer for each site…?
January 1st, 2008 at 10:52 pm#
Way off topic.
This will be my last comment at TP. The editorial staff has elected to remove my response to a rabid attack, while leaving the falsehoods of the other party for all to see. This is unacceptable.
I’ve had fun, and, I will doubtless run into many of you on, effectively moderated, forums.
I can’t leave without a warning, however. The troll known as BARTLEBEE is a narrow minded, ignorant, hateful, judgmental, abusive sh!t-stain. And, when challenged, it lies like the lowest of conservative trolls. Don’t dare to disagree with it or you may be the next one subjected to it’s foul abuse only to have your response deleted as happened to me in this thread:http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/huckabee-phone-call-with-god/#comment-4191249
Good bye.
Comment by pete — January 1, 2008 @ 10:57 pm
My beef is with the staff. I will no longer support their incompetance.
January 1st, 2008 at 11:16 pmThe tired old “Clinton did it too” line.
Boring…
January 1st, 2008 at 11:42 pmSo back onto the topic…
“But the administration has expressed reservations about the bill, and Mr. Bush’s signature was accompanied by a proviso known as a signing statement, in which he said he was reserving the authority to overrule state and local divestment decisions if they conflicted with foreign policy. The statement said the measure “risks being interpreted as insulating†state and local divestment actions from federal oversight.”
So, he will tell localities that they HAVE TO keep their monies in the funds that they wish to take their monies out of?
I think not. It is called stealing, and ANY local court would find it totally out of the realm of a signing statement. The local activity of a town or village to invest where they wish to invest is NOT foreign policy, not can it be construed by this raving lunatic traitor.
On another front, When are we going to provide our SHOCK AND AWE on the Neo-Traitors?
Doesn’t have to be physical or military. Just shock and awe, in economic terms, in not buying this or that or whatever. Orphysical in terms of turn out at political rallies.
Just askin’
January 1st, 2008 at 11:43 pmThat’s awesome! The Man-slag hauled out the trusty old “Clinton Did Itâ„¢” from the cellar.
Man, that takes me back. Trolls haven’t been that desperate in months, it seems like.
January 1st, 2008 at 11:47 pmSigning statements are for a Pres (a real one) to instruct the offices and powers under his arm of the government on HOW to interpret the legislation the signing statement is attached to. This sounds reasonable on its face. But this ASSH0LE thinks that signing statements are LAW of the land, and they are not. Article I says so.
January 1st, 2008 at 11:47 pmBut this ASSH0LE thinks that signing statements are LAW of the land, and they are not. Article I says so.
Comment by 99Luf Balloons — January 1, 2008 @ 11:47 pm
Until these signing statements are challenged in a court of law, they are the law of the land. Bush owns almost all the courts, too.
January 1st, 2008 at 11:51 pmThey do not have to be challenged. What will they do, call the town’s broker and tell him/her to put the money BACK into the fund. Comeon this is ludicrous.
January 1st, 2008 at 11:59 pmIt is laughable on its face.
I think Unka Dickie has something up his sleeve while Chucklenuts is off on his world wide destruction campaign. I bet Dickie and the Blackwater boys take some pot shots at stooge, and Dickie starts up the Fascist machine and takes some of the more fasicist of the signing statements out for a ride while Shrimpy is out of country.
There is no doubt that Cheney is running this show.
January 2nd, 2008 at 12:01 amHey Slag,
January 2nd, 2008 at 12:01 amDo you need someone to rub some more baby oil on your old flabby arms again? Or you looking for Enzyte, Cialis or Viagra.
This signing statement must be to protect companies like Blackwater that want to do business in the Sudan. It is also another example of just how batshit crazy Bush is.
January 2nd, 2008 at 12:04 am2008
January 2nd, 2008 at 12:04 amDick Cheney as Van Wilder
#122
“protect companies like Blackwater that want to do business in the Sudan.”
How would it do that?
January 2nd, 2008 at 12:06 amComment by Manslagt — January 2, 2008 @ 12:05 am
Oh heavens, drop the “too.”
Ok, the rest of your shit is bullshit anyway.
January 2nd, 2008 at 12:09 amInteresting. I’ve noticed that when a moonbat accuses someone of incompetence, they seldom spell the word correctly.
Comment by Manslagt — January 2, 2008 @ 12:08 am
The word is usually directed at you, huh?
January 2nd, 2008 at 12:10 amAnd Bin Laden went to Dubai for Medical help two months before Sep/11, 2001 and was met by the CIA and he was not ARRESTED. So, what is your FU(KING POINT DICKWAD?!?!?! That even further back in time, we had MORE reason to take this SOB out? I think not asshat.
January 2nd, 2008 at 12:11 amhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/ waronterror/ story/ 0,,584444,00.html
If that is the case, then why didn’t George Bush I take him out ealier?
January 2nd, 2008 at 12:15 amIt’s useless, 99.
Slag thinks the Nazis were leftists. There’s no hope for that sort of ignorance.
January 2nd, 2008 at 12:45 amJust because you keep saying it, doesn’t make it so, Slag.
Honestly, educate yourself.
January 2nd, 2008 at 1:25 am#111 pete….
Because someone else seems to be having a bit of a problem is NO reason for you to leave. I looked over that post… a whole month of insanity? Someone did not have a good Christmas.
January 2nd, 2008 at 3:08 am# 126 Comment by Manslagt
January 2nd, 2008 at 3:21 amWOW that ’s mighty big of you… shows the @sshole you truly are.
Pete apparently has been posting here not having the automatic spell checker… that is impressive.
sudan has large oil reserves and, consequently, is being painted as a “terrorist haven†to better justify u.s. intervention… the “signing statement†merely preserves the policy of unilateral executive decision-making and intervention that has characterized the bush administration since day one…
I’m with you!!!
January 2nd, 2008 at 5:10 amHee hee, hey slag you stoopid sh|t, did you read the paragraph BEFORE your quote of the standard denial of every hospital in the world?
“Intelligence sources say that another CIA agent was also present; and that Bin Laden was also visited by Prince Turki al Faisal, then head of Saudi intelligence, who had long had links with the Taliban, and Bin Laden. Soon afterwards Turki resigned, and more recently he has publicly attacked him in an open letter: “You are a rotten seed, like the son of Noah”. ”
What’s the matter, you don’t like it when the “intelligence” shows that your side is a lying bunch of cheating, cowardly, lying, pieces of traitorous scumbags? Well, get usd to it.
And what then of Bush I, why did’t he take out OBL when he visited the Saudi family friends that he has been for over 30 years. He even had dinner with OBL. He could have done him in over the Chicken Cordon Bleu.
What a stupid mutherfu(ker you are.
January 2nd, 2008 at 8:51 amHee, hee, stupid shiit.
Well lookie what is going on in Paraguay.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/ international/ story/ 0,,1928928,00.html
http://www.newsday.com/ services/ newspaper/ printedition/ wednesday/ news/ ny-nypara275522656jan02,0,3059128,print.story
“Every major criminal organization in the world has a criminal representation in Ciudad del Este,” Nieves, 63, said in a recent interview.”
You got that right Det. Nieves.
January 2nd, 2008 at 8:57 amVERY INTERESTING READING TO SAY THE LEAST