ThinkFast: January 2, 2008
ThinkFast: January 2, 2008
Former 9/11 Commission Co-Chairman Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton write in The New York Times today that the CIA “obstructed our investigation” when it destroyed interrogation videotapes and “failed to respond to our lawful requests” about “the kind of information that would have been contained in such videotapes.”
According to the Washington Times, President Bush “is benefiting from a Karl Rove-free White House and the lower-profile approach of his successor,” Barry Jackson, who is now “the right fit for a president now reliant on Republican legislators sticking with him.”
After enjoying “a good rest” at his Crawford, TX ranch, President Bush returns to Washington with an “ambitious agenda for 2008,” which includes “tackling the mortgage lending crisis,” “securing more money from Congress for Iraq,” and pushing Congress to “permanently revise the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.”
In “the most brazen and deadly attack” that Baghdad has seen in months, 36 people were killed and 32 were wounded by a suicide bomber who “targeted a funeral procession for a victim of another bombing.” There has been “a slight rise in suicide car and vest bombs” in Iraq since October.
“An outspoken Saudi blogger is being held for ‘purposes of interrogation,’ the Saudi Interior Ministry confirmed Tuesday.” Fouah al-Farhan, whose blog “discusses social issues,” wrote in a letter to friends before he was arrested that he is being targeted because of his writings on “political prisoners here in Saudi Arabia.”
“Five years after passage of a federal law to create electronic registration databases to deter voter fraud, the new technology is posing hurdles that could disenfranchise thousands of legal voters,” according to USA Today.
“The Pakistani election commission, citing uncivil unrest following the assassination of political leader Benazir Bhutto last week, on Wednesday delayed upcoming parliamentary elections until Feb. 18.”
“Aid agencies today warned of a humanitarian disaster in Kenya as post election violence escalated amid claims of ‘ethnic cleansing‘ by rival tribes.” Estimates say up to 100,000 people have been displaced and more than 300 have been killed.
Oil prices fell two cents on Monday, yet still closed out 2007 “57 percent higher than where they began.”
And finally: The Clare Booth Luce Policy Institute wants you to follow the new year with its annual “pinup calendar of conservative women.” Gracing the pages are political commentator Bay Buchanan, blogger Michelle Malkin, and “author and calendar stalwart” Ann Coulter. Institute President Michelle Easton “fantasizes about a day when a conservative women’s magazine competes for supermarket shelf space with Glamour and Cosmopolitan.”
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January 2nd, 2008 at 9:03 amWe’re all benefiting from a karl rove free whitehouse. Now if we could just be rid of the the rest of those criminals.
January 2nd, 2008 at 9:08 amWell lookie what is going on in Paraguay.
http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/printedition/wednesday/news/ny-nypara275522656jan02,0,918436.story
“Every major criminal organization in the world has a criminal representation in Ciudad del Este,†Nieves, 63, said in a recent interview.â€
You got that right Det. Nieves.
Bush is in Paraguay big time.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/ international/ story/ 0,,1928928,00.html
VERY INTERESTING READING TO SAY THE LEAST
January 2nd, 2008 at 9:08 amHappy New Year, all!
“Former 9/11 Commission Co-Chairman Thomas Keen and Lee Hamilton write in The New York Times today that the CIA “obstructed our investigation†when it destroyed interrogation videotapes and “failed to respond to our lawful requests†about “the kind of information that would have been contained in such videotapes.â€
Anyone surprised at all? Anyone?
Continuing Republican obstructionism will be the death of their party!
January 2nd, 2008 at 9:10 amLink blew up. Sorry
January 2nd, 2008 at 9:10 amhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1928928,00.html
Hi all,
I think that a Karl Rove-free White House is a myth. I can’t see why Karl, whose position in GOVERNMENT was always nil, would have less political and policy influence now. I think he’s just gone back to the shadows.
January 2nd, 2008 at 9:12 amGood morning, campers. And Happy new year.
So, Bush has an ambitious agenda for 2008. I imagine that includes a signing statement which abolishes the Constitution, Congress, and the Supreme Court, and makes himself dictator for life.
Does anyone have blueprints for building guillotines? We WILL be needing them.
January 2nd, 2008 at 9:14 amNo polls showing 2008 general election matchups between Dems and Reps!
MSM always hide these polls when Hill’reh is down big against Rep potential candidates. I suspect, that after Benezir Bhutto’s death, only Edwards maintained his position, while Hill’reh and Obama took a nose dive.
MSM wants Hill’reh and Obama bad, but reality keeps intervening, forcing US priorities, which is why, even when Dems get elected, they still have to do what Reps would have done anyway.
January 2nd, 2008 at 9:19 amhttp://boisdejustice.com/History/History.html
January 2nd, 2008 at 9:24 amFormer 9/11 Commission Co-Chairman Thomas Keen and Lee Hamilton write in The New York Times today that the CIA “obstructed our investigationâ€
No shit sherlock. And what are you going to do about it? Didn’t you know that King George and his minions are allowed to do anything they want to do. In other words, they are thumbing their noses in our faces and will continue to do so until such time as the Democrats grow a spine and start playing hardball.
January 2nd, 2008 at 9:25 amThere has been “a slight rise in suicide car and vest bombs†in Iraq since October.
So, what are the Republiscums going to say if the violence goes back to the level it was before they started shouting “the surge is working, the surge is working”? Are they going to shout “the surge IS NOT working”? It will be interesting to see the spin they put on it.
January 2nd, 2008 at 9:27 am#10 – “It will be interesting to see the spin they put on it.” Comment by bilbobaggins — January 2, 2008 @ 9:27 am
Prediction: their “spin” will be that the surge is always working, no matter the truth. Anything that contradicts this spin will be ignored or blamed on anyone but themselves.
January 2nd, 2008 at 9:29 amFouah al-Farhan, whose blog “discusses social issues,†wrote in a letter to friends before he was arrested that he is being targeted because of his writings on “political prisoners here in Saudi Arabia.â€
So now he is a political prisoner. These are the friends that Bush looks up to. What a shining example of democracy in action they are (not!).
January 2nd, 2008 at 9:29 am“Five years after passage of a federal law to create electronic registration databases to deter voter fraud, the new technology is posing hurdles that could disenfranchise thousands of legal voters,†according to USA Today.
Why does this not surprise me? Why was it that we didn’t have these kind of problems back in the day when good old people power ran our elections. Thom Hartmann frequently says something that I totally agree with. He says that a country that privatizes the the vote is a country that will not remain a democracy for very long. Why in the hell are we turning over one of our most precious rights to private for-profit industries?
January 2nd, 2008 at 9:32 am“It will be interesting to see the spin they put on it.
Comment by bilbobaggins”
Any mention of this will be refuted with an accusation of wanting the troops to be killed so we can hate bush.
January 2nd, 2008 at 9:34 am#14 – “Any mention of this will be refuted with an accusation of wanting the troops to be killed so we can hate bush.” Comment by Bobwurst — January 2, 2008 @ 9:34 am
Proving that the neo-con approved talking-points are swallowed faster than Rush L. popping oxycontin.
January 2nd, 2008 at 9:37 amFairy Duster
Are you seriously calling yourself a coke head?
January 2nd, 2008 at 9:50 amComment by Fairy Duster — January 2, 2008
If Jason really was banned yesterday, this is probably his new moniker.
January 2nd, 2008 at 9:51 amFairy Duster
Are you seriously calling yourself a coke head?
Comment by Bruce Gorton
Nope, it is his sexual orientation.
January 2nd, 2008 at 9:52 amComment by Fairy Duster — January 2, 2008 @ 9:53 am
Boo-hoo. You got just what you were looking for, crybaby.
January 2nd, 2008 at 9:55 amMr. President, we must bring democracy to Saudi Arabia… invade now!!!
January 2nd, 2008 at 9:55 ambilbobaggins
Well, it could also be referring to crystal meth.
January 2nd, 2008 at 9:55 amWhy the hell are you using the Washington Times as a reference?! Ugh.
January 2nd, 2008 at 9:58 amYou are right, Bilbo (@13),
Even more galling is that the companies who sell us their paperless electronic voting machines refuse to let anyone look at the programming code, which they claim is proprietary. Anyone who has seen an “Easter Egg” in a program knows what can be hidden in a big program that no amount of testing will reveal.
Our Democracy should not be subject to ‘proprietary’ claims by corporations; there is nothing which should be less subject to private ownership than our vote.
January 2nd, 2008 at 9:58 amGlad to have TP back on a regular schedule.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:00 amWith the slow news coverage of the past two weeks, the lack of Stewart/Colbert, and the infrequency of Olbermann’s show, I welcome the return of TP.
No, it was Obama who simply wanted to invade to find OBL.
Comment by Fairy Duster — January 2, 2008 @ 10:02 am
He never said that.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:05 amContinuing Republican obstructionism will be the death of their party!
Comment by Democrat Soldier — January 2, 2008 @ 9:10 am
I would take that one step further: It’s not “will be the death of their party”; it HAS BEEN the death of their party. The GOP is all but gone with it’s 28 percenters. In terms of registered voters, they rank third now.
Once the primaries are over, the candidates will turn to the ones who really matter to them most: The Independent/Unaffiliated voters. This is the only way the people can regain some modicum of power over this capricious government of ours.
Once the primaries are over, it will be time for people to unaffiliate and register as Independent so this bloc of voters can determine who will be our next POTUS – and not the mainstream sycophantic whoring corporate media!
P.S. Happy New Year to all!
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:06 amWith numbers comes power; with power we have the opportunity to change the conversation in this country.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:07 amFairyDuster: I beg to differ. What I saw were plenty of Impeach Bush & Cheney demonstrators. Which perch did you occupy for parade viewing?
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:08 amand “fun” would hardly be the way I’d characterize the genocide we’re responsible for with our illegal invastion as well as the intentional and continuous killing of our own soldiers. It may be “fun” to you but it’s deadly serious business for most americans.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:09 amTROLL OUTING: Just connected the dots. Fairy Duster is the new moniker since Hendler got exxed by the site monitors. AHA! Nailed again, troll.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:10 amOnly a hard-core sociopath and misanthrope could characterize war as “fun”. Sick, twisted, MF should be the apropos moniker for Fairy Duster.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:10 amVeritas, FD was referring to the parade. But I agree he’s a twit.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:12 am#17 – “She described President Pervez Musharraf as a “candidate†who would be “on the ballot.†Comment by Fairy Duster — January 2, 2008 @ 9:47 am
So, what you’re saying is that in 2004, Pres. Bush was NOT the Republican “candidate” who was “on the ballot”.
Do you ever gag on the neo-con kool-aide that you blindly swig, or is it something to which you have become inured?
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:14 amWhat did we miss? Let us know in the comments section.
Saudi women are pushing for Saudi Arabia to lift its ban on female drivers, and have given King Abdullah (One wonders if anyone survives calling him Paula) a petition to that effect.
Doubt it is going to do anything though.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:14 amThat didn’t take long for the regression to set in. Quick, call me a nazi or comment on my parentage.
This blog is a joke.
Comment by Fairy Duster — January 2, 2008 @ 9:53 am
Well it looks like you were phishing for someone to insult you since your first post was an attempt to insult everyone else here.
You got what you were looking for.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:17 amRE: # 31 Veritas and Democrat Soldier
Would I be going too far to connect the Obstructionist tactics of the repub congress when they don’t get their way, the obstructionist voting tactics of the repubs (phone jamming and the like – while blaming the demos for doing it), and the obstructionist tactics of the troll (1 troll many names ?) in trying to derail a discussion of politics ?
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:19 amComment by Fairy Duster — January 2, 2008 @ 10:11 am
Hypothetically, if Pakistan acted in the exact same manner as Afghanistan.
Hardly frigging war mongering considering that Pakistan’s two major factions (The Bhutto camp and the Musharraf camp) both wanted the Taliban and AQ out of there and the vast bulk of what he said was that the US should offer support to Pakistan in its efforts to get rid of the al Qaeada presence within its borders.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:20 amVeritas
I suspect BART. But then, maybe I am being unfair.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:21 am2 Really Dumb Questions: “Oil prices …closed out 2007 “57 percent higher than where they began.â€
1) I see the higher costs every time I fill up my car or turn on the heat to my house. Yet the minimum wage doesn’t rise to keep track with this. So what do the borderline economy folks do ?
2) As energy is a significant portion of the cost of manufacturing, and oil is the precursor to plastic and in fertilizer, and oil has risen 57 %, where are the stats showing a significant inflation ?
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:23 am#44 – “Just making sure you are hip to the current state of Paki politics before you take another toke. ” Comment by Fairy Duster — January 2, 2008 @ 10:18 am
Ha! I guess I was wrong!
You see, that’s the difference between liberals/progressives and conservatives: we admit it when we make mistakes. Conservatives claim they never make mistakes and refuse to admit anything was their fault.
Now, clear away the smoke from your bong before you start attacking again. It helps when you can see your target, and not just blindly follow the dictates of your party’s attacking-points.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:23 amJust making sure you are hip to the current state of Paki politics before you take another toke.
Comment by Fairy Duster — January 2, 2008 @ 10:18 am
Speaking of being hip to international affairs, are you aware that “Paki” is an offensive term for most Pakistanis?
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:25 am“Au contraire, mon cheese, but he declared a willingness to use military force inside Pockeestaan with or without the approval of the Pak government.”
Pakistan is a haven for state-supported terrorists (not true with Iraq). Why wouldn’t he talk of invading an area that gives material support to terrorists? Wasn’t that the whole rationale behind invading Iraq? Obama’s willingness to use force only mirrors the current thinking, so take any complaints you have with Bush.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:26 amIt seems that Guilliani may have made the wisest move skipping Iowa:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7660.html
If Hill’reh comes in a distant 2nd or 3rd, it will kill her national campaign, whereas, Guilliani keeps focusing on S. Carolina and Florida.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:26 amNow, clear away the smoke from your bong before you start attacking again. It helps when you can see your target, and not just blindly follow the dictates of your party’s attacking-points.
Comment by Democrat Soldier
Why bring pot smoking into the debate? It adds nothing. If anything, its dementia is brought on from too many bottles of bad hootch.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:29 amYou do understand that what Obama said included the words “If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won’t act, we willâ€, don’t you?
Comment by Fairy Duster — January 2, 2008 @ 10:27 am
and where is the word “invasion” in that statement, fairy? Oh, it’s not there? what a surprise; you’ve conveniently lied again. i guess you wingnuts will never get comfortable with the truth.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:33 amFairy Duster
Yeah, are you saying you object to the war in Afghanistan?
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:33 amI would expect you to support military action against Iran since they “give material support to terrorists†and are a “haven for state-supported terroristsâ€.
Funny how these things work themselves out.
Comment by Fairy Duster — January 2, 2008 @ 10:30 am
Funny how you will take the word of proven liars every time. Some day, you should try thinking for yourself. You’ll probably fail, but you should try it.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:34 amIs “Pak†suitable, if for no other reason than to save myself the time of tapping out ‘Pakistan’ every time?
Comment by Fairy Duster — January 2, 2008 @ 10:32 am
That’s acceptible. And to respond to your earlier moronity, launching a missile from a Predator drone is NOT a military invasion by any definition of the term.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:34 amI would expect you to support military action against Iran since they “give material support to terrorists†and are a “haven for state-supported terroristsâ€.
Funny how these things work themselves out.
Comment by Fairy Duster
Actually, you’re wrong. Iraq wasn’t a haven for terrorists before the war.
The Paki ISI, however is a different story.
And Obama was a state legislator when Bush decided to invade, so your “take it up with Obama” is wildly off the mark.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:35 amFairy Duster
And the correct term is Pakistani. Paki is used by English neo-Nazis to describe just about anyone of Asian descent.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:35 amFairy Duster — January 2, 2008 @ 10:34 am
Then why should you object to Obama saying he would act in a consistant manner with Afghanistan?
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:36 amSee my last post. I guess we can bury this stereotype too.
Comment by Fairy Duster — January 2, 2008 @ 10:33 am
which stereotype? the one where wingnuts are ignorant racists, or the one where rightards don’t know anything about foreign policy? either way, you have a lot of digging to do to bury these stereotypes, which are, after all, your own creations.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:36 amAnd Obama was a state legislator when Bush decided to invade, so your “take it up with Obama†is wildly off the mark.
Comment by barfly — January 2, 2008 @ 10:35 am
don’t confues the fairy with facts, he can’t handle it.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:37 amOf course the peace demonstrations were booed by some of the onlookers – they certainly don’t want their fun and frivolity marred by something like an illegal war with all its death and suffering.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:39 amI give those who protested a lot of credit – they knew what they would encounter, but they went anyway and brought their message.
What is all this crap about Obama wanting to invade? Someone has his facts all screwed up — better he should clear his head of all that fairy dust.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:40 amThen again, is breaching the sovereign air space of a sovereign nation NOT an intrusion of their sovereignty? Just making sure so that if Bush were to launch a few hundred cruise missiles into Iran, you wouldn’t come back later and castigate him for it.
Comment by Fairy Duster — January 2, 2008 @ 10:37 am
Silly reasoning, in light of Bush’s decision to allow Turkey to invade northern Iraq, thereby negating Iraq’s “sovereignty.”
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:41 amFairy Duster — January 2, 2008 @ 10:39 am
Yes you are. You are calling him a war monger for it.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:45 amCan’t Americans just have one day off without the hysterical left trying to remind us why they hate the United States?
Comment by Fairy Duster
Please explain in detail why you believe peaceful demonstrations – a hallmark of American democracy – means these demonstrators hate America.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:45 amNo, the stereotype that was committed by dem soldier. Do try to keep up.
Comment by Fairy Duster — January 2, 2008 @ 10:39 am
No the stereotype was created by the behavior of nitwits and traitors like you. don’t try to keep up, you obviously lack the capacity to think for yourself or to understand plain English.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:47 amAnd this is better than how we do it now.
Ok then.
Comment by Fairy Duster — January 2, 2008 @ 10:46 am
you’ve already proven your intellectual limits, why beat it to death? We get it: you’re really stupid.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:48 amAnd this is better than how we do it now.
Ok then.
Comment by Fairy Duster
No, just intellectually consistent.
You can’t complain about Obama without tacitly saying you disagree with Bush’s current policy.
So, since you’re taking Obama to task, you also think Bush is wrong?
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:49 amCan’t Americans just have one day off without the hysterical left trying to remind us why they hate the United States?
Comment by Fairy Duster — January 2, 2008 @ 10:42 am
You’d like it if everybody just goose-stepped along with you and the rest of your little Nazi party, wouldn’t you? Too bad you’re in America, where freedom of expression is exercised by patriots, much to your consternation. Perhaps North Korea would be more amenable to your “philosophy”.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:50 amFairy Duster
Are you saying that there aren’t things in this world which are more important than parades football games?
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:54 amTypical of rightwing failure to govern: whining about a parade or another meaningless football game, instead of caring about the troops, or America’s rapidly-diminishing position in the world. Fairy duster is an idiot, that’s all he’s proven here.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:57 amthey have marginalized themselves through their own actions. Like you.
Comment by Fairy Duster — January 2, 2008 @ 10:56 am
Yeah, we in the 70% are marginalized. Poor us, that 24% majority is so powerful. LOL!!!
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:58 amsend the fairy a carton of kleenex, before he drowns in his own tears.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:59 am“they have marginalized themselves through their own actions. Like you.”
Comment by Fairy Duster
Says the 28% -er.
Unintentional irony is the best.
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:59 am“Yeah, we in the 70% are marginalized. Poor us, that 24% majority is so powerful. LOL!!!”
Comment by Lefty Patriot
Before ‘06, they posted haughty, pateralistic, screeds of great bombast; now, they’re reduced to a petulant, puling, powerless whine. After they lose the presidency, it’ll be one long, impotent howl.
January 2nd, 2008 at 11:05 am“Says the…what is the new dem-controlled Congress down to now…-er.”
And you think a war with no end in sight will be a win for republicans in ‘08?
Wanna’ buy a duck?
January 2nd, 2008 at 11:07 amI’m looking forward to this year’s elections. Duncan Hunter’s kid has filed for his seat, running against a navy seal. I’m going to go to his campaign stops, and ask him where in Iraq he actually served – and when he says it wasn’t combat-related duty, I’m going to ask the people in the room if this is the type of person thay want representing them, as opposed to a navy seal who actually saw combat. I’ll ask how young Hunter got a rear-echelon posting, and who procured it for him.
January 2nd, 2008 at 11:13 amComment by Fairy Duster — January 2, 2008 @ 11:06 am
You know, reading this post made me revise my opinion of you.
You aren’t actually rightwing. You are just another “Me-too.”
What is a me too?
It is an atheist who turns atheist not because of the evidence, but because of the behaviours of the “religious.”
It is a religious person who turns religious not because they believe in God, but because they don’t like the behaviour of the “atheists.”
It is someone without any depth to their ideology, someone who proclaims that “I don’t like you therefore everything you say is wrong.” It is a profoundly stupid person and you get them in all walks of life.
Okay, you don’t like Cindy Sheehan, but do you disagree with her?
Sure, you like Bush, but do you actually agree with his decisions?
Start thinking with your brain, not your emotions.
January 2nd, 2008 at 11:16 amHunter’s always bragged that he was the only member of the House with a family member “in a war zone,” so it’s fair game in my book.
January 2nd, 2008 at 11:16 amYou have your daily brainmelt about the war but then spend all sorts of time explaining that sending drones into Pakistan really isn’t a big deal, as if you wouldn’t go apeshat if Bush Tomahawked a few Iranian terrorist camps.
Comment by Fairy Duster — January 2, 2008 @ 11:00 am
No, there’s actually a huge difference between the two. Al-Qa’ida is known to exist, is known to be in the federally-administered tribal areas of Pakistan, and is a known threat both to Pakistan and to the United States. Attacking a specific al-Qa’ida target of opportunity, via special forces already embedded with the ISI or with an unmanned drone, would be a good strategic move (though I’d prefer an action that puts said al-Qa’ida leader in custody rather than one that kills him).
Iran is not a threat to the United States and these “terrorist training camps” you speak of are simply not credible. Attacking Iran would be an unprovoked act of aggression. Although they do provide financial support for Hamas and Hezbollah, these are not universally considered terrorist groups.
January 2nd, 2008 at 11:17 amtoasterhead
Iran supplies 1/2 of China’s oil and has major alliances throughout the world – which it can use to cut American trade.
Pakistan is currently in an on again off again war with your major ally – India.
Pakistan, in the hypothetical situation would have actionable intellegence saying that they are hosting your enemies.
Iran, currently only has actionable intelligence saying it doesn’t have WMDs.
Pakistan currently has WMDs and a history of supplying the technology involved in making them to your enemies (North Korea.)
Iran, may get WMDs one day, maybe.
January 2nd, 2008 at 11:22 amNotice too how the candidates are focusing on things OTHER than the Iraq war?
Comment by Fairy Duster —
I’ve noticed the media doesn’t use “conservative” much, anymore. They now use “prudent,” or some other adjective that means restrained.
I think the term conservative now has more negative connotations than liberal.
Thank George.
January 2nd, 2008 at 11:23 amSure, because we all know how much the left supports the idea of having veterans as opposed to non-vets in public office.
The left is now highly-composed of vets, so your statement is a non-sequitor.
January 2nd, 2008 at 11:24 amFairy duster wins…….
you have all fallen for what repugs do…again. This guy isn’t even k rove and you still play thier game….
Fairy duster has dominated the discussion.
January 2nd, 2008 at 11:34 amComment by Fred
I’ll have to side with fairy duster on this one. Think fast has always been a thread for most anything, and as long as no one is throwing around ad hominems, it’s catch as catch can.
January 2nd, 2008 at 11:41 amHow do we get rid of Fairy dudster? He needs to leave now. If there is a way to protest his presense here and maybe have him removed….please advise.
January 2nd, 2008 at 11:43 amOk then barfly…I will leave….
January 2nd, 2008 at 11:45 amOk then barfly…I will leave….
Comment by Fred
How petulant.
Post a comment about something you care about. People do it all the time.
It ain’t particle physics, dude; anyone can do it.
January 2nd, 2008 at 11:52 amA conservative women’s magazine would fit more into the category of compteing with “National Inquirer” or “Globe Magazine” – The same mentality, and all….
January 2nd, 2008 at 11:52 amRe: After enjoying “a good rest†at his Crawford, TX ranch, President Bush returns to Washington with an “ambitious agenda for 2008,†which includes “tackling the mortgage lending crisis,†“securing more money from Congress for Iraq,†and pushing Congress to “permanently revise the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.â€
But…but…but…what about flag burning and same-sex marriage? Those were the two most important issues facing America in 2006. I’m sure we’ll see them again this summer.
January 2nd, 2008 at 11:52 amI just thought this was a progressive forum. I don’t like it when obvious republicans take over and dominate the conversation and say things like this:
Can’t Americans just have one day off without the hysterical left trying to remind us why they hate the United States?
Fairy Duster
Which I can assure you he/she would not say to my face because these types are basically afraid and must strike from an anonymous position.
January 2nd, 2008 at 11:53 amJanuary 2nd, 2008 at 11:59 am
“But trying to paint the lesser Hunter as unqualified because he didn’t serve in combat and his opponent did doesn’t serve the public trust.”
Neither does trying to paint yourself a “war vet” when you were rear echelon for a reason. If young Hunter doesn’t try to use his service as an election tool, I won’t say anything. But if he does, I plan to rub his nose in the fact that he was rear echelon.
So why shouldn’t a vet who’s seen the effects of Bush’s war firsthand be considered more credible than someone who purposely stayed out of the line of fire (the pentagon would never make the same mistake of allowing a sitting congressperson’s kin to serve in combat, for fear of capture, and the inevitable propaganda and negative press that would ensue) to get a dubious credibility for war time service? His father’s bragging to constituents about his son’s service can be considered just such a political primping.
January 2nd, 2008 at 12:02 pmAMERICANS ARE BEING BETRAYED BY OUR LEADERS AND THEIR COWARDLY ENABLERS FROM BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES
American political leaders must LOUDLY and REPEATEDLY DENOUNCE George W. Bush’s and Richard B. Cheney’s actions and orders as UNCONSTITUTIONAL, UNLAWFUL and TREASONOUS rather than VALIDATE them with POLITICAL POSTURING, TIMIDITY and SILENT ACQUIESCENCE!
IMPEACHMENT is the only means we have of stopping the cataclysmic consequences of the unrelenting IGNORANCE, ARROGANCE, INCOMPETENCE, DISHONESTIES, INSECURITIES, HOSTILE TEMPERAMENT, VINDICTIVENESS and PRONOUNCED MORAL AND ETHICAL DEFECTS of George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney. They are intellectually and emotionally mean-spirited and malicious immature children who are jointly destroying America’s honor and integrity throughout the world. And politically correct Democrats and Republicans are standing by watching as they dismantle our Constitution and rules of law creating an all powerful and self-ruling/policing ONE branch oppressive/fascist American government. No individuals in our history are more deserving of public CONDEMNATION and legitimate PROSECUTION than George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney. God cannot save us from such men. That is something WE MUST DO FOR OURSELVES!
January 2nd, 2008 at 12:07 pm#89 – “The only complaint I have with Obama is his hypocrisy, the same goes for the rest of the libruuls who spend so much time bleating about the NeoCon Warmongers©.” Comment by Fairy Duster — January 2, 2008 @ 11:00 am
For someone who complains about others lumping all conservatives/neo-cons into buckets of “typical behavior” that you don’t agree typifies them, you sure like to lump liberals/progressives into buckets.
Why do YOUR “typical libural” ramblings deserve to be bleated, while anyone elses MUST be wrong?
January 2nd, 2008 at 12:11 pmGood God! This idiot “Fairy Duster” is too stupid to even comment on. To continue to write these inept and inane comments defending the Iraq War and all that goes with it are just so much wasted energy down the drain. This stupid fool is a paid troll or he’s “Michale” from the old Huffington. Ignore him, flag him, and they will get RID of him. He will have to come back under another name. That’s what they all do. To say that : “you don’t hear too much of the Iraq War anymore”, is just another idiotic right wing noise coming out of this fool’s mouth. In case he doesn’t understand, there were MORE American troops killed in Iraq in 2007 than the next worst “murdering” year, 2004. And, MORE Iraqi civilians killed in 2007. Let’s see now, January 2008, Bush announces “Surge”. MORE troops and civilians killed in 2008. Hummmm??
But, with ‘Fairy Duster, the bleat goes on.
January 2nd, 2008 at 12:20 pmOops, Meant to say “January 2007, Bush announces “Surge”. MORE troops and ciivilians killed in 2007 than any OTHER year in this stupid war.
Flag him and they will get rid of him. Simple!
January 2nd, 2008 at 12:23 pmThat’s all I’m saying…..when they are identified….get rid of them.
January 2nd, 2008 at 12:26 pmWhat have Bush and Cheney done to improve the quality of life for the underprivileged and middle class American workers either falling further into poverty or struggling to pay their bills? What have they done to improve the quality of life for our troops serving and dying in Iraq and Afghanistan, while their families fend for themselves and struggle to stay together? How many hundred of billions of dollars are going overseas and into the deep pockets of fat cat corporations, while so many of America’s citizens can’t afford to pay for health insurance, are defaulting on home loans and can’t afford the unbelieavly high cost of sending their children to college? Where do you neo-cons come down on the issue of the welfare of the majority of working class American citizens vs. the welfare of rich Americans who are trying to take more power and control away from working class Americans so they can get even RICHER?
January 2nd, 2008 at 12:38 pm…or don’t talk to them.
January 2nd, 2008 at 12:38 pmThat used to be easy but as has been noted many of them are on someone’s payroll to deliberaly disrupt progressive forums. I for one am tired of listening to it. If I wanted to hear it I would tune in to faux neus.
January 2nd, 2008 at 12:50 pm#120 Osage, Impeachment is such an appealing idea except it will not happen and if it perchance did happen it would not work. The numbers simply are not there.
Bush could be caught on film on the White House lawn having sex with a baby while eating a new born puppy as a snack with one hand and accepting a cash payment from Bin Laden with the other hand and he would still not get impeached. Why? Because democrats only hold a slim lead in each house and I do not see more than one or two republicans who would break ranks to convict Bush of anything, even if their constituents were clamoring overwhelmingly for impeachment. They value the party and the power of their party over all else including the security of our country both in spirit (the constitution) and in actual physical security. It just ain’t gonna happen because they will not have the support of the full congress. And of course if impeachment was attempted, it would fail and then the republicans would tout the failed attempt as proof of no wrong doing giving them a political victory.
January 2nd, 2008 at 2:16 pmPresident Bush said he was deeply saddened by the assassination in Pakistan, especially since he just recently learned how to spell and pronounce Benazir Bhutto’s name.–Tony Peyser
January 2nd, 2008 at 4:09 pmAnyone know what ever happened to big papa who used to post here?
January 2nd, 2008 at 4:28 pmClyde the Ripper?