‘El Rushbo’ Endorses Himself For President: I Have ‘The Qualifications’ As Clinton’s ‘Real Co-President’
‘El Rushbo’ Endorses Himself For President: I Have ‘The Qualifications’ As Clinton’s ‘Real Co-President’
Yesterday, Rush Limbaugh returned to the airwaves after his holiday break. Rather than endorsing a candidate for president — something his followers have long speculated about — Limbaugh promoted himself for the top job, saying that his “experience” criticizing the Clinton administration through the 1990s made him the most qualified candidate:
I want to discuss with you my qualifications, the qualifications that I possess that suggest that it is I, El Rushbo, who can lead you through this difficult period. […]
For eight years folks, from 1993 through the end of the year 2000, I was there, with Bill Clinton, every day. I advised Clinton on every key issue. I was working behind the scenes to run the country and add to his legacy. I’m not saying he listened to me, but I was there, as were you. […]
The influence this program exerted on Bill Clinton, should I have chosen to run for president would qualify me more than his wife, ladies and gentlemen. But when those records are released you will see how much of a factor I was in the Clinton White House and how successful I was as the real co-president.
Listen to it:
Limbaugh’s self-important, self-endorsement is clearly tongue-in-cheek. Even so, Limbaugh’s history of outrageous statements and claims is anything but presidential:
- Limbaugh has called American service men and women who criticize the Iraq war “phony soldiers.”
- Limbaugh compared an Iraq war vet who criticized him for the comment to a suicide bomber because liberals were “strapping those lies to his belt.”
- Limbaugh said the abuse at Abu Ghraib was only guards simply “having a good time.”
- Limbaugh said the Middle East “should just have civil wars,” and added, “Fine, just blow the place up.”
Alas, if “El Rushbo” is not drafted to run for President, he can take solace in the fact that he once played one on TV.
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Oh, please throw your asshat in the ring, RushAddictBimbaugh.
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:34 pmNot sure who to shake my head at… Rush, or TP for paying attention to the gasbag.
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:34 pmRush…..your Rx is ready at the counter.
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:35 pmBitter old man making accusations in spite of the facts.
Sounds like the repub’s perfect nominee.
And, by implication, what does this say about the qualifications on the “real” repub candidates ?
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:35 pm” ‘El Rushbo’ Endorses Himself For President: I Have ‘The Qualifications’ As Clinton’s ‘Real Co-President’ ”
Rush the Oxycondin President..The drugs kicked in too quick for Rush. He’s delusional.
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:37 pmuh boy… here it comes…
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:37 pmTROOLL FEST!
Let this blowhard stand up at the lecturn and have to answer questions instead of making up stories. Let the other candidates have a shot at him. That would be great TV.
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:37 pmGeees, I can’t get past the fact TP or any one else ever listen’s to what this insane thing say’s……Just another thread to show all his marbles are missing……Blessings
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:38 pmHe does have the qualifications to be a reich-wing presidential candidate:
– He’s angry
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:39 pm– He spreads propaganda
– He has never served in the military
– He starts and spreads lies on a daily basis
– He believes whites are the master race
We have always wanted to vote for a bloated, thrice divorced, childless drug addict with erectile dysfunction who takes sex tourist trips to dirt poor nations.
-Larry Craig, Mark Foley and Ted Haggard
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:39 pmHey, Pills, shaddup.
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:39 pmNot sure who to shake my head at… Rush, or TP for paying attention to the gasbag.
Comment by Bush is a four letter word — January 3, 2008 @ 2:34 pm
I know! Someone at TP must have thought it was too tame in here today or something. Before we know it this thread will have hundreds of idiots, er, I mean Rush supporters posting crap!
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:40 pmHuh. I guess he really IS a comedian, after all.
Not a very funny one, mind you.
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:40 pmRush is the epitome of the Ugly American.
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:42 pmJust a thought — I like how wingnuts, when discussing Senator Clinton’s qualifications for the presidency, portray serving as First Lady as her only relevant experience.
What, serving for seven years as US Senator from one of the most important states in the Union doesn’t count?
Sheesh.
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:43 pmWe have always wanted to vote for a bloated, thrice divorced, childless drug addict with erectile dysfunction who takes sex tourist trips to dirt poor nations.
-Larry Craig, Mark Foley and Ted Haggard
Comment by GSD — January 3, 2008 @ 2:39 pm
One sentence sums it up so well. Thanks GSD.
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:43 pmI’ve been listening to Rush yesterday and today, since he’s been back from vacation.
He has emphasized that Huckabee is NOT a conservative, just an evangelical. He has emphasized that McCain is not a conservative, just a veteran.
I missed the beginnings of his shows yesterday and today, so I guess that I missed the self-nomination portion of his show. If you know Rush, as long-time listeners do, then you would understand that he is just showing the equivalence of Rush’s credentials for President with Hill’reh. They both advised the Bubba Clinton everyday of his presidency - that’s it - Hill’reh only has her Senate experience.
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:48 pmEl Rushitbo’s Oxycontin’s talking again!
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:48 pmoh, i’m not so sure about “tongue-in-cheek”…
but i DO know that limpballs influence HAS been a MAJOR factor
in the decline of this nation and the quality of our government…
i blame him for “starting it”…
may he rot in hell…
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:49 pmRalph: Ugly in all of it’s negative connotation - that’s Limbaugh. Butt-tugly humanoid.
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:49 pmHay, TP…….How about a trifecta, put up a thread of O’lilie and misery man Coulter, that ill bring the troll’s to attention…LOL…Blessings
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:50 pmLimpballs,
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:51 pmDoes that ass cyst hurt much when you talk?
Hey, Sharon, that’s a great idea, why have one assbite neocon, when three would be thrice as bad!!
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:52 pmRush fails to be funny, no matter how hard he tries.
Even his “tongue in cheek” jests are unfunny. This one is no exception.
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:53 pmI hereby want to state my support for Rush Limbaugh as president of Oxycontin Anonymous.
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:54 pmOh. My. Sweet. Freaking. God — !!!!!
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And now, please, pardon me while I go pick up my jaw off the floor. And mop up the vomit.
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:55 pmToo bad El Rushbo isn’t serious because if he was he’d WIN!!
Rush forever!!!
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:55 pmComment by Witch1 — January 3, 2008 @ 2:50 pm
lol - that’s a good one ‘S’. I mean, if you’re going for traffic that might just do it!
I was wondering PrimeWitch - who do you support for prez? I find you to be most uncompromising (i.e. you’re a feisty one which is good) and I was curious.
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:55 pmBack at ya RU, yep, I’m in one of my rare mood’s of just get it all over at once…..How’s it going for you and your’s.? All’s well and very quiet here…Blessings
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:56 pmRush as President now that would destroy this country. As Rush would make molesting kids legal and Fingers Foley would be back in his job. Dennis Hastert would be allowed to do what he does ….. and Larry Craig wouldn’t have to use men’s room for sex. Vitter could be Committee Chairman of hiring Prostitutes for Law Makers. Yes of course the GOP would say their all Religious Christian Family Values people while committing sin. Rev. Huck would fit right in this group. Mitt could legalize a man having as many wives as they want. All the professional woman would lose their jobs so they could stay home in the kitchen. As for the immigrants Prez Rush would allow the children to stay their parents have to leave. Welcome to the new US with Prez pervert Rush.
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:57 pmnever for an instant think that it can’t get any worse in the US.
if Rush was president or VP or anywhere near having any real power…..i would RUN!!!
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:57 pmOooooohhhhhh I GET IT!!!
He’s making fun of Hillary!
Because she’s a stupid girl!
Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
If only he had been hired as a head writer, FNC’s “1/2 Hour News Hour” would still be on the air!
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:59 pmWitchyOne, I’ll be voting for Dennis on Feb 9th, gotta love him.
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:59 pmOurs are doin fine, Amber’s at preschool today and tomorrow, going to take her to the Seattle Aquarium over the weekend.
“El Rushbo”??? I’m guessing this jerk has made a big deal out of the “English-only” issue and he calls himself THIS?
I guess if a neocon Bush apologist can use the screen name of a Democrat who ran for President against Bush, then Rush can use an “immigrant” name.
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:00 pmHuckubee was right that Limbo was created by the Clinton’s and he has most to gain if Hillary is elected
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:02 pmI think Rudy may have found his running mate!
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:02 pmMary, my answer is Kucinich……And who are you for.?
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:03 pmImikey, how do those sour grapes taste, anyhoo?
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:03 pmI think Rudy may have found his running mate!
Comment by A Patriot Acting — January 3, 2008 @ 3:02 pm
Would Rudy be able to keep a relationship with a political running mate any better than he has a spousal mate? Maybe, if they didn’t have to argue over the dresses it might be OK.
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:05 pmhe’s got the drug history, a la Bush and Clinton
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:08 pm#31 - “Rush forever!!!” Comment by John Kerry — January 3, 2008 @ 2:55 pm
Sweetie, they’re NOT talking about amyl nitrate. Go snort something else.
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:08 pmRU, sound’s great…She will love it..Will this be her first trip there.?…
New bumper sticker’s for our guy getting noticed….Blessings
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:08 pmOh Rush is just all full of himself because he didn’t go deaf from all the Viagra he took on this pedophilia trip.
Now be believes himself to be a real man because he isn’t hard … of hearing.
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:09 pmWhat would a Rush cabinet look like?
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:11 pmI’m not talking about his medicine cabinet.
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:11 pmShayne #50…priceless…Blessings
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:11 pmWhat would a Rush cabinet look like?
Comment by hellinabucket — January 3, 2008 @ 3:11 pm
Like a medicine cabinet.
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:13 pmWhat would a Rush cabinet look like? -Comment by hellinabucket
It would look a lot like a closet, full of Homophobes practicing bathroom gay sex while drolling to America how they will make this country safe.
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:15 pmYes, Sharon, we went down to the waterfront Saturday, and she loved it, so we decided to make it down there more often. The aquarium will blow her mind, especially the octopus, seals and such.
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:15 pmWhat happened to Mary….Did not get a response….Hummmmm….LOL
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:15 pmToo bad El Rushbo isn’t serious because if he was he’d WIN!!
Comment by John Kerry — January 3, 2008 @ 2:55 pm
If Rush actually thought he’d win, he would run.
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:16 pmWitch1 - Kucinich first (by far), Obama second & Edwards third.
I hear Kucinich has already recommended Obama as a back up choice (to him).
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:16 pmWhat would a Rush cabinet look like?
Comment by hellinabucket — January 3, 2008 @ 3:11 pm
It’d be stocked with oxycontin, percocet, you name it.
What? Someone did this joke already?
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:16 pmWitch1 - supposed to be working you see. But that’s boring. Which is my own fault for not choosing a more interesting career!
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:17 pmRU, it is such a joy to see the world through the eye’s of the young, she is truly a blessings..
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:17 pmMary #61 so you are on the internet during work.?…Well who is your choice for pres.?
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:19 pmBig Woop, Lush Rimjob Bloviating Today.
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:20 pmremember this limpball classic?:
“I feel liberated - I no longer have to carry water for people who dont deserve it”
uh huh…
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:21 pmOK, it’s fairly obvious that Rush is making fun of Hillary and her claim that her experience as First Lady is relevant to her qualifications to be president. I’m sure that his regular listeners will just eat up his claims that because he also “advised” Bill Clinton, he is just as qualified.
There are a couple of flaws in Rush’s premise — but then again, there always are. Even though I’m not particularly a fan of Hillary, I’d like to untwist Rush’s pretzel logic if I can.
1) As First Lady with an office in the West Wing, and often working on projects for the executive branch, no doubt Hillary was privy to information from time to time that wasn’t public. This gave her a clearer picture to formulate any “advice” she was asked for.
2) Hillary is a rabid researcher, and is good at doing her homework. This can work to her detriment (as we saw with her first health care proposal), but it also means she doesn’t merely bloviate. Rush, on the other hand, works to put together enough inflammatory rhetoric to put on a show, and he has his staffers cull the news for any kind of item he can put his brand of spin on.
3) Rush and Hillary may both claim to have advised Bill Clinton when he was president, but only Hillary can claim that Bill actually listened.
4) Any advice Hillary gave the president probably contained something useful instead of just name-calling. She may have called him a few names, too (particularly after the Monica scandal), but I doubt that was her sole communication, as it is Rush’s.
Wake me when Rush comes up with something fresh.
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:21 pmIn Spanish, proper names, specially the ones of persons aren’t preceded by articles. They are often used with inanimate objects. Oh, wait…
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:22 pmSpeaking of water, it looks like Flush Dimbulb needs some diuretics in his cabinet.
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:22 pmI couldn’t decide to go the drug route or crazyass radio personality route so I left it to the public. I haven’t been dissappointed.
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:23 pmHow about the “Travels to the Dominican Republic with Viagra” route?
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:25 pmSorry I missed your pres. choice post Mary,….The puter and I are slow today..I’m sticking with Dennis…..Blessings
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:25 pmToo bad El Rushbo isn’t serious because if he was he’d WIN!!
Comment by John Kerry — January 3, 2008 @ 2:55 pm
If Rush actually thought he’d win, he would run.
Comment by Dr. Matt — January 3, 2008 @ 3:16 pm
I don’t think that’s true. I think that Rush much prefers being a critic to being a performer. As president, he’d have to work a lot harder. And he’d have to put up with some criticism directed toward HIM — which he avoids now by rarely stepping out side his broadcast booth.
When was the last time you saw him on any kind of mixed discussion panel? Can you just imagine him trying to hold his own in a real debate?
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:26 pmAs long as TP is posting some comedy:
http://www.theonion.com/ content/ news/ giuliani_to_run_for_president_of_9
“My fellow citizens of 9/11, today I will make you a promise,” said Giuliani during his 18-minute announcement speech in front of a charred and torn American flag. “As president of 9/11, I will usher in a bold new 9/11 for all.”
“Letting 9/11 fall into the hands of the Democrats in 2008 would be nothing short of a national tragedy,” Giuliani said. “Ever since 9/11 was founded that fateful day on 9/11, 9/11 has stood for one thing: 9/11.”
“If elected, Giuliani would inherit the duties of current 9/11 President George W. Bush, including making grim facial expressions, seeing the world’s conflicts in terms of good and evil, and carrying a bullhorn at all state functions.”
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:29 pmNope, not sufficiently qualified.
But, he does have the necessary experience to fill such slots as National Drug Czar, because he clearly recognizes the greater danger of Schedule 1 narcotics and other prohibited substances than that posed by prescription medications… Or, maybe not.
How about making him the White House spokesperson? Who better positioned than to twist the truth on behalf of a President?
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:34 pmWhy would Rush want to take a cut in pay and have to have the appearance of being accountable. He’s got such a cushy job making up claims (The real Co President, the f#%k is this. Like there’s a fake co president competing with Rush), rustling papers and making an ass of himself.
Can you imagine the secret service detail that would be sent to his “vacation” spots?
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:34 pmIf Hillary does manage to get the nomination the best part about it would be watching this blowhard Rush’s head explode.
But I heard Kucinich speak once and he came across as authentic. I think he’d be really good for the country. But I doubt the powers that be would ever allow that.
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:35 pmWhen was the last time you saw him on any kind of mixed discussion panel? Can you just imagine him trying to hold his own in a real debate?
Comment by missmolly — January 3, 2008 @ 3:26 pm
Thats why Lush ended up on radio, he couldn’t actually debate, he only knows how to create controversy by making immature remarks. And the reason hes not on TV is because his ugly mouth got him fired.
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:37 pmOn a related note:
The local “Rush Radio” station fired their sole remaining local rightwing host because he only had three loyal listeners/callers. Rush is the only one left and most calls seem to consist of, “when are you going to drop that idiot Limbaugh”?
The backlash is in full swing! Let’s keep it up and make them irrelevant. With luck, and hard work, we can build a future where our kids ask, “What was a neocon and why were they so bad?”
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:42 pmMy take is that this deluded freak has a very deep seated inferiority comlex, and compensates for it by lashing out at everyone who is different than him. That, coupled with extreme narcissism would go a long way toward explaining this foul creature.
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:49 pmcomplex?
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:49 pmcomlex, is Rush taking comlex as well?
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:52 pmRush made something clear? Now that’s funny. Maybe due to the comlex he’s now taking.
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:53 pmRU; Maybe cuz he feels guilty about his draft-deferment?
Naaahhhh, not a chance.
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:54 pmRush is qualified to jerk his lard around while making fun of Micheal J. Fox.
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:54 pmComment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 3:52 pm
You are probably correct here as that of course is Rush’s deal. He doesn’t actually believe the nonsense he spews. It is written for him to be delivered for profit. It has nothing to do with beliefs, values or anything else. It is simple market capitalism. The fact that more than a few hayseeds have been duped by this schtick changes nothing.
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:57 pmWho’s been carrying the Hillary banner here? There may be some but this is a free country Manslather.
Bush was never elected twice. The supreme court ruled, that’s not an election and you know that manbutter.
Are you supporting Rush for President? Find your spine and say it then instead of attacking any other actual candidate. If you think Mr. Entertainer is a qualified choice for President then say it instead of attacking an elected Senator.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:00 pmBarbara Bush was a senator of one of the largest most influential states in the union?
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:01 pmi believe that this was Rump Limpball’s attempt at being funny —
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:02 pmCan you just imagine him trying to hold his own in a real debate?
-Comment by missmolly
Who else would hold ‘it’? Not me!
If Rush can’t hold his own, maybe Foley or Hasturd can help out; I hear they don’t have much going on anyway.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:03 pmP.S. You do realize that if Limbaugh had actually said what TP claims he did, the troops themselves would have demanded his removal from Armed Forces Radio?
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 3:51 pm
Doubtful. The soldiers who listen to him are the ones who support all things right-wing, including the Iraq war. They know they aren’t the ones that Rush was calling “phony”, so they probably wouldn’t complain.
The others — the ones who don’t think their being over there is a good idea (the Pat Tillmans of the armed forces) would probably rather be set on fire than listen to Rush anyway, so whatever he says probably doesn’t make much difference to them.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:04 pmI don’t understand why anyone would defend blowhard Rush. I
don’t think he could care less about anyone defending him and, in fact, I suspect that he holds no respect for his listeners judging by the lies and garbage he feeds them. It’s like feeding candy to a baby every day. They cry, “More, more!” and meanwhile they’re starving from malnutrition.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:05 pmmanchum is defending a man who said “the real copresident”. It’s comical on so many levels.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:06 pmTP and CAP are part of Clinton Inc.
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 4:03 pm
How so?
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:07 pmClinton Inc.? They incorporated? Are they publicly traded?
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:07 pmmanham, why did you go there. tsk, tsk, tsk.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:07 pmIf you engage a moonbat long enough, they’ll eventually call the troops stupid. I would venture that 99% of our troops are much sharper than you are. -Comment by Manslagt
You’re talking to Vets here, boy. STFU or act like you have a reason to talk. Say something that makes sense of go blow Rush.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:08 pmand / or
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:10 pmAre you serious? Do you know who runs CAP?
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 4:10 pm
Sorry I was more interest in the TP part. She I never see any diehard Hillary folks around here. You seem to have some weird hatred issues with her though. What other candidates do you truely despise?
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:11 pmRush is certainly the most qualified ass pimple popper on the slate.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:12 pmComment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 4:11 pm
I keep asking for your duty stations, and you’ve not answered once.
How bout now?
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:12 pmIgnoring Rush will not make him or his kind go away.
Confronting him and his kind is the way to beat them.
That’s not confrontation. That’s quoting him. It fails.
And in the case of people who exist only as long as an audience does, ignoring him will make him go away.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:13 pmGood Lord! You are in the dark. TP is the official blog of CAP.
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 4:12 pm
I don’t seem to be making myself clear. Do you see any strong Hillary support here in what you wish to present as Clinton Inc?
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:15 pmThis is a flat-out lie from a TP research airhead. Limbaugh was clearly referring to Jesse MacBeth and other “phony soldiers†when he said this.
Comment by The Man-Slag — January 3, 2008 @ 3:51 pm
This is a total flat-out lie from a Chimpy leghumping tweezerhead. Limpballs was clearly referring to the previous caller, who identified himself as a Republican and a veteran, when he used the phrase “phony soldiers”.
Listen to it once again.
Limpballs had no reason to doubt the authenticity of this caller’s service, other than his stance on the Iraq War. Yet he derided him as one of the “phony soldiers”. If he had been referring to MacBeth, one would think that name would have come up in connection with the comment, instead of almost two minutes later.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:15 pmThen answer RUCerious’ question.
For a new kid on the block, you show a lot of flamboyance.
By the way, we have many Vets here. I took offense at your reply to missmolly, who is also a Vet.
Now, answer RUC’s question. Or are you another phony soldier?
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:16 pmI don’t believe someone reaches the top of the radio business, stays at the top for 20 years, and is a multimillionaire, gets there because he is stupid.
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 4:14 pm
Howard Stern is a genius
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:16 pmRush, the soldier you said was like a suicide bomber has a message for you
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:17 pmBTW, punk, this poster is a vet.
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 4:11 pm
Liar. And Hillary would bury you in a debate on any subject except masturbation.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:19 pmThe top of hate radio is not really the top of the radio business…
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:19 pmOh, and what about those duty stations??
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:19 pmI don’t believe someone reaches the top of the radio business, stays at the top for 20 years, and is a multimillionaire, gets there because he is stupid.
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 4:14 pm
He is if his audience, like Rush’s is made up entirely of idiots like you.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:20 pmBy the way, I have a plagiarism tool, so don’t pull a Jake on us…
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:20 pmJan. 15-April 9, 1982: MCRD San Diego
May-Aug., 1982: LFTCLant, Little Creek, Norfolk, VA
Aug. 1982-Aug. 1983: ACI, G-2, 1st MAW
Aug. 1983-Dec. 1985: S-2, MAG-36
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 4:20 pm
hey, me too!
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:20 pmAug. 1982-Aug. 1983: ACI, G-2, 1st MAW
Aug. 1983-Dec. 1985: S-2, MAG-36
great! thanks, and where were these located>?
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:21 pmMaybe Manshit found this the wrong place to claim Veteran’s status?
OTOH, maybe he helped Reagan invade Grenada. Yeah, that’s it!
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:21 pmPoor little manny seems to be laboring under the mistaken assumption that WE are as stupid as he is.
Poor baby. Give it up, boy.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:22 pmEl Rushbo’s been pining for some good ol’ fashioned S&M from Hillary for quite some time now.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:26 pmIf manspanker was in the service then thanks for that. If he’s lying then he knows he’s full of it. All are side issues.
Manfillintheblank, Rush just created the Real copresident and you defend him. That’s just dumb of you.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:28 pmI think everyone knows that Hillary is in the Senate and has been for just a bit over one term.
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 4:01 pm
Which means that she has held elective office longer than Dubya had when he was running for president (Dubya had been governor for five years at this point in his presidential campaign — same length of time Hillary has been a Senator for seven).
By inauguration day next year, she will have held elective office for the same amount of time Rudy Giuliani did (eight years).
Other candidates who have held elective office for eight years or less — Fred Thompson (8), John Edwards (6), and Mitt Romney (4). Huckabee, McCain, and Obama all have more than 8 years in elective office.
Presidents who held elective office for eight years or less before being inaugurated president — George W. Bush (6), (Ronald Reagan (8), Jimmy Carter (4), John F. Kennedy (8), Dwight Eisenhower (0) — and quite a few more. Bill Clinton, George HW Bush, Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, and Lyndon B. Johnson all had more than eight years of elective office experience by the time they were sworn in.
The point is that the amount of Hillary’s experience isn’t that unusual for a presidential candidate. And certainly not unprecedented.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:28 pmI wonder. How many active duty troops have the time or inclination to listen to Rush? How many give a rip?
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:29 pmOkay, enough with all the posturing! It’s as though the manlover person has more credibility if he’s a veteran? As far as I’m concerned he lost all credibility when he defended the court jester rush.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:29 pmOK Manslagt, you’ve come thru for us. You are a legitimate vet, just like many of us here.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:29 pmSo you were never actually in combat, stationed in Okinawa in the 80
’s??
You’re a dickhead who was in the Army.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 3, 2008 @ 4:29 pm
No, he was a dickhead who was in the Marine Corps.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:30 pmNot to quote myself or anything, but at 2:43 I posted this comment:
I like how wingnuts, when discussing Senator Clinton’s qualifications for the presidency, portray serving as First Lady as her only relevant experience.
What, serving for seven years as US Senator from one of the most important states in the Union doesn’t count?
Sheesh.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — January 3, 2008 @ 2:43 pm
Then, at 3:56, the Man-Slag said this:
If you moonbats think Hillary is qualified to be president simply because she was First Lady, I suggest we draft Barbara Bush to be president.
Comment by The Man-slag — January 3, 2008 @ 3:56 pm
Reading comprehension, not so good, huh, Man-Slag? At least not when it gets in the way of a good talking point.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:30 pmBeing a governor of a state or mayor of a city with a population larger than many states is far different from being a senator. You cannot compare the two.
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 4:31 pm
Very true, especially governor of Texas, which is essentially a figurehead position with no real authority.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:33 pmI don’t like Hillary. I don’t trust Hillary. But I think she’s a capable person. Far more capable than the WORST PRESIDENT EVER and the majority of the other candidates. And I’m willing to take the risk if she’s the nominee against anyone from the other side.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:33 pmBeing a Senator from a state with a huge population is far different from being the governor of a hick state like Texas, or a backward swamp like Arkansas (Yes, WJC).
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:34 pmThe Senator will have much more exposure to issues that make up the agenda of the federal government.
I don’t believe someone reaches the top of the radio business, stays at the top for 20 years, and is a multimillionaire, gets there because he is stupid.
Comment by The Man-slag — January 3, 2008 @ 4:14 pm
But you DO believe that someone who was a successful lawyer and two-term US Senator from New York got there because she is a “dolt”.
Odd reasoning, I must say.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:35 pmS-OK bartles, but I was regular army, and jarheads always posed as being somehow superior to us. They do however, make excellent cannon fodder.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:36 pmI think it’s a bit arrogant of you to believe that everyone reads each and every one of your posts.
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 4:33 pm
Most thinking people try to consider all information before making a statement. Anything else is, well, stupid.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:37 pmWhy are there so many Kucinich, Edwards, Dodd, Obama, and Richardson supporters at this site? Manslagt has stated this is Clinton Inc. Why wouldn’t there be more pro Hillary folks lingering about? I remain mystified by this.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:37 pmWhy would it have to be a major combat operation to include a marine of your stature manhandler?
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:40 pmI think it’s a bit arrogant of you to believe that everyone reads each and every one of your posts.
Comment by The Man-slag — January 3, 2008 @ 4:33 pm
Funny, I think it’s a bit ignorant of you to assume that anyone thinks Hillary Clinton is qualified to be president simply because she was First Lady, and then base an argument on that assumption.
Maybe, if you were going to criticize “moonbats” for their views, it would have a little more impact if you criticized their actual views, instead of ones you make up.
I know, I know… not as much fun, takes more work. We understand, Man-Slag.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:42 pmlosing those billing records from the Rose Law firm.
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 4:38 pm
and this has nothing to do with her qualifications as a lawyer, which she has, or the topic of the thread, which is Limbaugh.
But, of course, the moonbats here respect military service.
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 4:39 pm
Military service, perhaps. Gratuitously insulting brain-dead trolls, not at all.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:43 pmBARTLEBEE:
“So instead of Beetle Bailey, he was Gomer Pyle?â€
But, of course, the moonbats here respect military service.
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 4:39 pm
Coming from a man who is defending the “Real Copresident” and the one who used the term phony soldiers on the radio.
Your point fails to rise to the level to be taken serious.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:43 pmI didn’t realize she was a successful lawyer. Last I heard she was a bit incompetent, e.g., losing those billing records from the Rose Law firm.
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 4:38 pm
Actually, her staff lost them. But that’s OK, you lie about everything else. Some marine.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:43 pmZimzone,
Unlike Senator Harkin, I never claimed I served in Vietnam, sissy.
-Comment by Manslag
Sissy? I haven’t heard that word since some bully called my sister that. That was back when the one bully still had all his teeth.
Sissy? I don’t see any combat on your South Seas adventures.
I started this with you when you posted this…
missmolly:
If you engage a moonbat long enough, they’ll eventually call the troops stupid. I would venture that 99% of our troops are much sharper than you are.
Comment by Manslagt
FYI, missmolly is one of our most respected posters here and consistently posts some of the best thoughts on the site. Before you go calling posters you don’t know names, maybe you should just STFU.
Junior.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:44 pmComment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 4:38 pm
So don’t vote for her and get over it. Why are you so preoccupied with a candidate who doesn’t suit you? Would you like to tell us who you feel is better qualified and that you are comfortable with?
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:44 pmWhether you like her or not, she’s like her husband. Smart, capable and she has the one gift the repbulicans are sorely in need of.
The gift of diplomacy.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 3, 2008 @ 4:36 pm
Which raises another “pet peeve”. Why are politicians berated for “poll watching” and “flip flopping”? Aren’t they elected to according to the wishes of those who elected them?
If you show me a candidate who will defend a position REGARDLESS OF NEW INFORMATION I will show you a candidate who will NEVER GET MY VOTE.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:44 pmOK, then Manslagt, I appreciate your service, and will keep that in mind when reading your posts, especially ones on war and combat.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:44 pmlosing billing records is the same as losing National Guard records. Oh wait, going AWOL is so much worse. A Marine would know that.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:45 pmHillary lost billing records from a law firm, Bush lost the US Constitution.
-GSD
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:45 pmIf you show me a candidate who will defend a position REGARDLESS OF NEW INFORMATION I will show you a candidate who will NEVER GET MY VOTE.
Comment by Impolitics — January 3, 2008 @ 4:44 pm
Well, of course, since you’ve described George Deserter-In-Chief Bush perfectly. Speaking of lack of respect for the military.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:46 pmAren’t they elected to according to the wishes of those who elected them?
Comment by Impolitics — January 3, 2008 @ 4:44 pm
Oops! That should be:
Aren’t they elected to ACT according to the wishes of those who elected them?
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:48 pmI’m all for it. Anyone that lives in an open primary state, or can otherwise vote for His Emanence Rush in the primaries, go for it!!!
Rush is such an a$$ that he’d be the death of the Republican party for decades to come…..
Cheers,
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:50 pmBartlebee is making my point concerning the game moonbts play regarding military service.
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 4:49 pm
Why? By not fully trusting someone who is a proven liar on these boards?
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:51 pmWell, of course, since you’ve described George Deserter-In-Chief Bush perfectly. Speaking of lack of respect for the military.
Comment by Lefty Patriot — January 3, 2008 @ 4:46 pm
Actually, it describes a huge number of politicians, preachers, snake-oil salesmen and fools.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:52 pmmissmolly:
If you engage a moonbat long enough, they’ll eventually call the troops stupid. I would venture that 99% of our troops are much sharper than you are.
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 4:06 pm
Suggesting that I am stupid just shows me that you have run out of meaningful debate. I’d like to point out a couple of things:
1) In no way have I called any of the troops stupid. Choosing not to listen to Rush Limbaugh isn’t a sign of stupidity, even if you may think so. I never even suggested that the troops who DO listen to Rush are stupid. I merely said there are soldiers who listen to Rush and soldiers who don’t. Neither of these groups is likely to go on a wild tear blasting Rush, but for different reasons.
2) When I took my ASVAB at the time I entered the Navy, I scored quite well — considerably better than average. While I’m not claiming to be the smartest person who ever enlisted, I very much doubt that 99% of my shipmates were “sharper” than I was.
Before you sling insults, you might take the time to find out a little bit about your target. This is why I don’t call people names or make negative suggestions about who or what they are personally. Not even you.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:54 pmManslagt,
As a Veteran, I thank you for your service.
As A Vet, I cannot understand Bushlicking behavior.
As a voter, you & me could not be further apart.
As an American, Bush had divided all of us. Polarization to a point that scares the Hell out of me.
FYI, missmolly is a Vet, too.
My point? At some point in time, being a Vet is less important than being a rational, thinking human being.
Your choice.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:55 pmBartlebee is making my point concerning the game moonbts play regarding military service.
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 4:49 pm
Are we supposed to “give you a pass” for your alleged service? Excuse the Hell out of me but, an idiot who served is no more relevant than an idiot who didn’t. It’s your attitudes which earn our scorn.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:55 pmPresident Rush would be pretty hilarious as the fat boorish buzzed out face of the nation at dignified global gathering. I am sure that other leaders will be able to look into those vacant eyes and get a true sense of his soul
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:56 pmRUCerious:
Bartlebee is making my point concerning the game moonbts play regarding military service.
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 4:49 pm
Why are you whining to me about it. Jeebus, I thought you Marines were a tougher bunch than that.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:57 pmCaption:
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:58 pm‘What? You can’t take Viagra through your ear?
Forgive me, Man-Slag. I should not have used the term “proven liar”, as I don’t have any direct evidence at hand of a “lie”, strictly speaking, that you have authored here.
“Proven dishonest” is much more defensible.
And by the way, Man-Slag, the only posters I call “proven liars” are those who have actually, y’know, exhibited dishonesty in their communications.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:59 pmThis is why I don’t call people names or make negative suggestions about who or what they are personally. Not even you.
Comment by missmolly — January 3, 2008 @ 4:54 pm
Although given Manslagt’s track record in this and other threads, we would understand if you did.
I doubt anyone here would hold that against you ;-)
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:01 pmmissmolly:
Being a governor of a state or mayor of a city with a population larger than many states is far different from being a senator. You cannot compare the two.
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 4:31 pm
You’re absolutely right. When you are a governor or a mayor, you don’t have any federal level government experience, nor do you have any foreign policy experience unless you have worked to gain it.
Watching Huckabee make gaffe after gaffe on foreign policy questions in his campaign points out very vividly the need for these things.
I personally like Richardson. He has congressional AND gubernatorial experience. As far as I know, he’s the only candidate with the whole package.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:03 pmOkay so let’s summarize. Manslagt likes Rush, really really doesn’t like Hillary, thinks everyone here is part of some Hillary controlled corporation, and served. So Manslagt who do you feel is well qualified and would be worthy of your vote?
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:04 pmThe Real Co President. That still makes me laugh. Almost as much as old Manslappedmarine here.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:08 pm“Limbaugh promoted himself for the top job, saying that his ‘experience’ criticizing the Clinton administration through the 1990s made him the most qualified candidate:”
Wow, using Rush’s logic, I missed out on a great opportunity:
When Tom Osborne fired Bill Callahan has HC of Nebraska, I could have easily applied for and won the job.
My qualification? I’ve been criticizing about his coaching on numerous web sites ever since he was given the job back in 2004.
But no, they gave the job to Bo Pelini, who was defensive coordinator for the Huskers back in 2003, and is the current DC for LSU.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:09 pmOh, sure, like THAT makes him more qualified than me.
Huckabee once said Jesus would be on his side about the use of the death penalty and he believes the world is only 6,000yrs old.
That tells me all I need to know except for who will be his real copresident. Will there be decoy copresidents?
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:10 pmAdd Richardson to manslagt’s nono list but still no indication on who he doesn’t despise.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:13 pmwhen you call a Marine “Gomer Pyle,†you’re referring to his military service, not his opinions.
Comment by The Man-slag — January 3, 2008 @ 5:03 pm
Seems to me, you’re criticizing his behavior, not his service.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:13 pmNo one said that. But when you call a Marine “Gomer Pyle,†you’re referring to his military service, not his opinions.
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 5:03 pm
No. When one calls a Marine “Gomer Pyle” one is making a statement about the intelligence of said Marine. This intelligence, or lack thereof, is exhibited by the statements of said Marine.
I think it’s fair to say you have not impressed anyone here with your intelligence.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:13 pm“No one said that. But when you call a Marine ‘Gomer Pyle,’ you’re referring to his military service, not his opinions.”
Not necessarily, I met quite a few Gomer Pyles stationed at Pendleton who came up to Fort Ord for CALFEXs.
Just like I met a number of Beetle Baileys at Benning and in the 7th ID.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:13 pmAdd Richardson to manslagt’s nono list but still no indication on who he doesn’t despise.
Comment by dbadass — January 3, 2008 @ 5:13 pm
I thought the same thing, D.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:14 pm….’And if elected, everyone will refer to me as GOD.’……man, thoes drugs sure mess with the mind.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:16 pmWasn’t this thread about Rush? The big fat liar?
Rush would never actually run for president because (a) he couldn’t stand the scrutiny, (b) he couldn’t do the hard work and (c) he’d lose in an enormous (heh) landslide. Even our almost-entirely-recumbent press would demand answers to enough tough questions that Rush would scamper off in disgrace.
It doesn’t surprise me he hasn’t endorsed one of the Republic candidates, for the same reason Pat Robertson won’t reveal what God whispered in his ear: neither can sustain the illusion of omnipotence when the field is so unsettled. At root, of course, both of them will support whichever candidate survives the primaries because Republics are the Party of God.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:23 pmEl Rusho is a lard assed, drug addled, gas bag who takes the little blue pill while chasing fourteen year old hookers in the Dominican Republic…a real good GOP candidate.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:23 pmAdd Richardson to manslagt’s nono list but still no indication on who he doesn’t despise.
Comment by dbadass — January 3, 2008 @ 5:13 pm
So far I haven’t heard him diss any of the Republican candidates. But you can dangle the name of any of the Dem candidates in front of him and he will consult all his right-wing blog sites to find some dirt on that candidate (true or not — doesn’t matter) and post it here.
I’m kind of surprised he didn’t mention Richardson’s speeding tickets.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:24 pmAs far as Manslagt’s argument about the Dems being the dividers, um, how about Bush’s style of negotiation with the Congress.
All or nothing. Real uniting.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:30 pmRimjob has the qualifications to be Drug Czar. He could write entire encyclopedias on the subject.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:30 pmAs far as Manslagt’s argument about the Dems being the dividers, um, how about Bush’s style of negotiation with the Congress.
All or nothing. Real uniting.
Comment by RUCerious — January 3, 2008 @ 5:30 pm
Bush: “You’re with me or your a terrorist”!
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:33 pmExactly how would Rush differentiate himself from the rest of the Republican candidates? He embodies the worst of all of them…
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:42 pmSM, you’re right. You are wasting your time here. So go chug a quart of Southern Comfort and watch pro wrestling entertainment.
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:04 pmAnd while your making fun of his drug addiction, you should also make fun of his hearing impairment if you want to be taken seriously.
Comment by Southern Man — January 3, 2008 @ 5:56 pm
We don’t make fun of his hearing impairment because Rush has never made any rants against the hard of hearing or the deaf.
His record of railing against drug addicts is well-known. His utter hypocrisy makes his drug problem fair game.
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:08 pmAnd while your making fun of his drug addiction, you should also make fun of his hearing impairment if you want to be taken seriously.
Comment by Southern Man — January 3, 2008 @ 5:56 pm
We don’t make fun of his hearing impairment because Rush has never made any rants against the hard of hearing or the deaf.
His record of railing against drug addicts is well-known. His utter hypocrisy makes his drug problem fair game.
Comment by missmolly
I always assumed his hearing impairment was self-inflicted. Isn’t hearing loss one of the common results of mega-doses of vocodin and oxycontin?
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:22 pmManslagt is a jar-head, a sea going bellhop, he has threads on his head so he can screw his hat on. But be nice to him, he was just not smart enough to be a Navy man back then.
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:49 pmHis approval rating was above 90% at that time. 90% were with him.
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 7:05 pm
A stuffed donkey would have had 90% approval at the point, as long as he was President of the country that had just been attacked. That’s a hell of a lot of good will to burn up in a remarkably short time.
January 3rd, 2008 at 7:08 pmActually, it took quite awhile. Bush’s approval rating was still 70+ % in early 2004. That was before the Democrats decided to be dividers in order to win the presidency and Congress in 2004.
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 7:12 pm
Right. Nothing that Bush did had any effect on how people viewed him. That’s typical of “conservatives” who never take any accountability at all. It’s always someone else’s fault when they screw up.
Massive incompetence on the part of the administration might just have played a teeny role in Bush’s failure.
January 3rd, 2008 at 7:14 pmA good part of the drop can be attributed to Iraq and the constant claim that Bush lied about Iraq. If the media were responsible and reported that Clinton and his national security team also said Iraq had WMD, was a threat to the U.S., and had ties to al Qaeda, I suspect that Bush’s approval rating would be at least 10 points higher today.
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 7:21 pm
More evidence that “conservatives” refuse to take any accountability. It’s all the fault of the press, it’s the fault of the liberals, it’s the fault of the Democrats, it’s Clinton’s fault!!! . . . it’s never the decisions made by the people running the show. No matter how you try to drag Clinton into this, the fact remains that the Bush administration has had seven years to demonstrate their incompetence and they’ve done a bang-up job. Stop blaming everyone else for it and man up.
January 3rd, 2008 at 7:32 pmMethinks he takes himself too seriously.
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:11 pmHis approval rating was above 90% at that time. 90% were with him.
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 7:05 pm
And he pissed it away when he invaded Iraq on false pretenses.
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:32 pmWell, I see Rush has changed his tune.
Several weeks ago I forced myself to listen to several minutes of his radio show. Went something like this:
Rush said that a listener e-mailed him and said he should push for Hillary to be elected so that everyone could see how she would really run the country, and then Rush could say, “See, I told you so.”
Rush said he wasn’t going to do that, because in 1992 another Clinton was elected and was in for two terms, and “we all know how that turned out.” He didn’t elaborate.
January 3rd, 2008 at 9:06 pmAs I noted above, Bush’s approval rating was still in the 70s a year AFTER the invasion of Iraq. And, again, the media have failed to report on the Clinton administration’s views on Iraq. The fact is that the intelligence was consistent from Clinton to Bush.
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 8:37 pm
It took more than a year for the truth to start peeking through. And Clinton didn’t invade Iraq based on that intelligence. So, what’s your point?
January 3rd, 2008 at 9:15 pmThe fact is that the intelligence was consistent from Clinton to Bush.
Comment by Manslagt — January 3, 2008 @ 8:37 pm
No, it wasn’t.
Summary:
There you have it. Four to seven months before 9/11–and just 15 to 18 months before the drive to attack Iraq seriously revved up–the Secretary of State and the National Security Advisor trumpeted that Iraq had a decimated military, no “significant capabilities” regarding WMD, and was so feeble that it couldn’t even threaten the countries around it with conventional military power.
Source.
January 3rd, 2008 at 9:38 pmComment by Bad Eye — January 3, 2008 @ 9:38 pm
Let’s not forget that Hans Blix, the head of the UNSCOM in Iraq, called the intelligence provided to him by the Bush administration “garbage”; the same intelligence that was supposed to prove the presence of WMD in Iraq.
But Pres Bush ignored what the inspectors were saying and decided to invade anyway.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:15 pmThe fact is that the intelligence was consistent from Clinton to Bush.
Comment by The Man-slag — January 3, 2008 @ 8:37 pm
And you wonder why we think you’re dishonest.
January 3rd, 2008 at 11:05 pmYes, Manslagt, I know what your next question likely is:
“Did Clinton lie about Iraq’s WMDs, etc.?”
Are you referencing Clinton based on what he was saying in 1998, five years prior to the Iraq invasion?
My first reaction is to offer a counter question: why would he need to lie? As president, he apparently didn’t see the need to invade Iraq to take care of the “problem.” He also didn’t have a VP with ties to a major government contractor in line to receive billions of dollars in no-bid contracts that a multi-year war would bring to the company.
Anyway, it appears that Powell and Rice, as linked to above, likely had updated intelligence with which they declared Saddam a non-threat.
But wait…there’s more! Let’s look at the NIE on Iraq as presented in 2002. As The Hill reports, most Senators didn’t bother to read much, if any, of the NIE when asked. Former Senator and current presidential contender Fred Thompson wouldn’t even respond to requests about whether or not he read the report.
Source.
Isn’t that just grand. Most of them didn’t even read the full report yet they voted to submit this country to an endless war in who the hell knows how many countries.
So, roughly a year-and-a-half after Powell and Rice’s comments, the “intelligence” tells us that Saddam is after all a threat, and must be dealt with post-haste. Looking at the total picture, Clinton in the late 90’s says he is a threat, a few years later Powell and Rice say no, and a year or so after that, Saddam is once again a threat. Add in the fact that the WMD inspectors were asked by Bush to leave Iraq before their jobs were finished; the fact that former CIA agent Tyler Drumheller told Tenet to remove info from Powell’s speech to the UNSC relating to mobile weapons labs because “Curveball,” who provided the info, was not trustworthy (yet it remained in the speech); let’s also add the question regarding how much of the intelligence from Curveball was included in the 2002 NIE.
What it all boils down to is this: the evidence, or lack of, found in Iraq since the invasion pretty much proves what Powell and Rice were saying in early 2001.
January 4th, 2008 at 12:22 amThe only reason the main main El Rushbo would not run is because it would be a HUGE pay cut!!!
Looks like the aged Hillary is a goner!!! Whoever BJ supports NEVER wins!!
January 4th, 2008 at 4:51 pmYOU GO RUSH, YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!
January 4th, 2008 at 5:13 pmGood one #256 LOL
January 4th, 2008 at 5:37 pmThe only reason the main main El Rushbo would not run is because it would be a HUGE pay cut!!!
Comment by John Kerry
So he’s more loyal to money than America?
January 4th, 2008 at 5:49 pm