Pat Robertson: God told me who will win ‘08 election.
Each year, Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson “goes off alone with the Lord and then comes back to share with us what the Lord has shown him about the coming year.” This year, according to Robertson, God told him what will happen in the ‘08 election:
On Wednesday, Robertson, 77, implied that God informed him who will be elected president in November.
“He told me some things about the election, but I’m not going to say, because some old man on “60 Minutes” would make fun of me, so I’m not going to tell you who the winner’s going to be,” Robertson said, in apparent reference to CBS humorist Andy Rooney, who turns 89 on Jan. 14.
In 2004, Robertson claimed that the Lord told him it would “be like a blowout” re-election for President Bush. Bush, however, received just 51 percent of the vote that November. In 2006, he incorrectly predicted that “the outcome of the war and the success of the economy will leave the Republicans in charge.”
UPDATE: Robertson also said that this year, God told him China will become a Christian nation: “God’s going to give us China. And China will be the largest Christian nation on the face of the earth. They’re going to come to Jesus.”
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Wait, wait! It’s Rush, right Pat??
American can’t stand pat.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:17 pmAnother Pharisee…
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:18 pmThe Flying Spaghetti Monster told me that Pat Robertson is full of crap.
Doesn’t matter if its true, it only matters if I believe it or not…
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:18 pm“Pat Robertson: God told me who will win ‘08 election.” Get thy Pat to thy nursing home. Pass the popcorn please…
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:20 pmSo Robertson knows (’cause God told him) but he isn’t going to divulge the winner. Hmmm, I wonder if I asked God, would he tell me? Then I can tell you.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:20 pmWell at least Pat is a well enough developed charlatan to come up with an excuse to keep it to himself. Daryll just blabbed it right out
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:21 pmWhy haven’t the Christians stoned this false prophet yet?
in other news: Bush “pocket veto” stops promised bonuses from being paid by the Army.
http://www.armytimes.com/ news/ 2008/ 01/ army_bonuses_halted_080102w/
Way to support the Troops!!
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:22 pmthese are the kinds of posts the trolls really avoid.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:22 pmChina to become a Christian nation in 2008!?
Well, someone better get started converting them at a very brisk pace, because China is an awfully big country, with an awful lot of people who are not Christians…
What a ridiculous, silly prediction.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:25 pmProove it……….silence
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:27 pmComment by Frank M — January 3, 2008 @ 4:23 pm
Don’t you think the party leaders who callously prey upon the sincere members of the right by cozying up with these charlatans out to carry the blame of hurting the party?
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:28 pmFrank,
The “cause” is hurting the Party, and vis-versa…
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:28 pmBeware of false prophets, non-profit churches and for-profit ministers.
Does Huckabible have Pat on his fab 5?
Does God have a party line? (pun intended)
Does the NSA tap God’s phone?
Was God wiretapped before 9-11?
Was Bush listening in?
Is Verizon God’s carrier?
Does God have unlimited minutes?
Inquiring demigods need to know!
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:28 pmWell, hey. Pat, ol’ buddy - the Flying Spaghetti Monster touched *me* with His Noodly Appendage and told me who was going to win!!
BUT I’M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU, YOU ADDLEPATED MORON!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:29 pmHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
Frank: Right ON! The GOP is full of a$$hats, $hitbirds, hypocrites, frothing-at-the mouth warmongers war criminals, war profiteers. The more they hurt/destroy their party with their patently unAmerican behavior, the MORE I love it. I toast the day the GOP is forever destroyed like the Whig and German Nazi parties before them.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:31 pmThat’s strange, God told me that Robertson is a nutcase.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:32 pmOh, Frankie, Frankie, Frankie…you just don’t realize who you’re in bed with, now do you…?
Pardon me while I enjoy the HELL out of your discomfiture!!
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:32 pmRobertson also said that this year, God told him China will become a Christian nation: “God’s going to give us China. And China will be the largest Christian nation on the face of the earth. They’re going to come to Jesus.â€
If only Pat Robertson would come to the place he belongs in the best. Anybody here seen There Will Be Blood yet?
The place where Eli Sunday went in that film.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:32 pmThat place.
Annie,
You got touched? All I ever get is a note on a napkin and a greasy marinara stain on the front of my shirt…
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:33 pmWhy does anyone think and omnipotent, eternal being gives a damn who the next president is going to be?
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:33 pm20 - Oh yes, yes, yes, OMF! I was indeed touched by His Noodly Appendage!
I am sooooooooo very blessed! Pass the parmesan!
rAmen!
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:34 pm22 Oooooh, such sour grapes, Frankie!!
When you can’t beat ‘em, criticize their spelling, right? Way to go, big boy.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:36 pm21 - Krazny — “batshit crazy” comes to mind…
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:38 pmFrank,
The cause is what you believe in, the Party is the group that believes in it. Your cause is not just, therefore it hurts the Party, your Party is full of incompetents, therefore it cripples your cause.
You are correct about “vice versa”, thank you, although according to dictionary.com the hyphen is not required.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:38 pmThe cause is the Party. And it’s “vice-versaâ€.
Comment by Frank M — January 3, 2008 @ 4:33 pm
that’s what he said. the party is the cause. Your party is the party of treason, torture, mysoginy, homophobia, perversion, lies, mass-murder and the theft of the American treasury. other than that, it’s OK.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:38 pmAnnie,
I’ll pass the parmesan with a hearty “Aarrrggghhhh”!
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:39 pmPat must not have a lot of confidence in his voices if he’s worried about being mocked for revealing the answer. If he truly was a godly man, he wouldn’t let a little mockery stop him, and if he truly had a message from God he wouldn’t have to concern himself about being mocked for getting it wrong.
It is pretty impressive that he gets to go off alone with the Lord. He must really be important for the Lord to take time off from smiting the infidels and chill with Pat. I guess the ultimate in arrogance is not recognizing how astonishingly arrogant comments like this reveal him to be.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:39 pmWhy does anyone think and omnipotent, eternal being gives a damn who the next president is going to be?
Comment by Krazny — January 3, 2008 @ 4:33 pm
Not sure why, but I’m prety sure its the same people that think God will make their local high school football team beat the other town’s team, that think so.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:40 pmGood point Mitch…he is of little faith.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:40 pmCan I have a side of crazy with that.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:41 pmAh - it must be happy hour. Time for the comic relief?
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:42 pm29 - Gummitch - if he doesn’t tell, well, then he can’t get it wrong, ya see?
*eyeroll*
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:42 pmgod (the lower case is on purpose, btw) told who was going to win the election too, and what the winning power ball numbers will be for the next 3 years but I won’t play because that would be cheating.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:43 pmHasn’t he already endorsed Rudy Giuliani?
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:43 pm36 - That was the God of 9/11, Joe. Altogether different.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:44 pmI’ve always wondered why Christians don’t care that the people they follow are stupid, moronic, lying, knuckle-draggiing, pedophiliac, homophobic yet homosexual, money-grubbing, wouldn’t know God if he fell out of the sky in their lap, jackasses.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:44 pmChina? BWAHAHAHAHA!
What. A. Tard.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:45 pmWHY IS “GOD” AFRAID OF ANDY ROONEY?
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:45 pmOMG. This is the best laugh I’ve had alllllll day. Thanks, TP!
Oh - and Frank, thank you, too.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:46 pmHe told me some things about the election, but I’m not going to say, because some old man on “60 Minutes†would make fun of me, so I’m not going to tell you who the winner’s going to be
Hey, Pat — if God provided you the correct answer, the pleasure of being “validated” will certainly outweigh any goofing me might do on you in between now and the election. So go ahead, give that answer. I mean, Moses wasn’t afraid of being laughed at when he laid down those 10 commandments. Don’t you have faith in the answer that God gave you? Well Pat, DO YOU have FAITH in the revealed WORD of GOD?
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:46 pmOK, so lets have him write it down and seal it in an envelope give it to CNN and then they can open it after the election.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:50 pmGod must have spoken to him whilst he was leg pressing 2,000 pounds of bull droppings.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:51 pmI’d love to see Pat Robber’s son on Deal, no deal. He could ask God which briefcase had the million dollars, then choose all the others.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:52 pmThat’d be great.
They’re going to come to Jesus.â€
Yes, Jesus Fong, of Shanghai.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:53 pmGotta love words of wisdom from fake-based ministries.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:54 pmRobertson did indeed endorse Giuliani for president. Does Robertson know something we don’t? Maybe God didn’t tell him who was going to win but maybe someone else did? Someone who acts as though he’s God and does whatever the flip he wants?
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:55 pmOh, please, captain manny - please tell me how badly Pat Robertson embarrasses you and the Republican Party!!!!
Please? Pretty please??
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:56 pmI am still waiting for Pat to prove his claim that god makes him so strong he can leg press 1 ton. He should be able to win the next Olympics……
**the leg press record was 665 pounds by Dan Kendra. But when Dan set the record the strain burst the capillaries in his eyes and he is now blind
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:57 pmWhen will this arrogant waste of protoplasm lose his tax exempt status?? I guess we’ll have to wait until an adult is in the White House again to see that happen.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:57 pmPat,
Just spoke to Jesus. He told me his Dad is sending you someplace really warm.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:00 pmGawd gave me the megamillion numbers too….but I’ll tell you after they are drawn.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:02 pmthe entire repugnican party is in a state of de-evolution.
kinda like some primitive civilization.
what’s next? witch hunts?
taliban in suits.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:07 pmscary!
Thank God Andy Rooney will have something to go off on next week! His essays on self-help books were getting kinda stale…
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:08 pmDon’t blame Robertson for faulty predictions… it’s God’s fault! For shame, TP. Robertson is just the messenger.
~Sean
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:08 pm2. Another Pharisee…
Pharisee-not at all. Sadducee-definetely.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:14 pmI wonder if Pat asked God if Jerry Falwell was up there with him.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:15 pmWasn’t there something in the Bible about people who are prophets that give out false information… what were they called… Maybe Mr. Robertson can help me remember.
~Sean
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:15 pmWasn’t there something in the Bible about people who are prophets that give out false information… what were they called… Maybe Mr. Robertson can help me remember.
~Sean
Comment by SeanC — January 3, 2008 @ 5:15 pm
arseholes?
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:16 pmThese people hurt my friggin head.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:17 pmGod told me who was going to win the BCS title game. he told me back in August, but I’m not telling you until after the game.
I’ll give you a hint: God said it would either be Ohio State or LSU.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:18 pmI think someone has wired his dentures a la Kent from Real Genius.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:19 pmI think someone has wired his dentures a la Kent from Real Genius.
Comment by lefty — January 3, 2008 @ 5:19 pm
“And stop playing with yourself!”
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:21 pmI used to play this exact same game when I was five! Pretend I knew something secret and then, to hide the fact that I really didn’t know shit, make up a reason why I couldn’t tell the secret. Of course, I was smart enough–at age five–not to involve God in my deceitful game. If only PR had that same level of maturity…
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:21 pmWhen rednecks and beliigerant corporate conservatives try to smear me and tell me I don’t love America, are they telling me I have to love idiots like this? Because, I’m sorry, morons like Robertson and the chumps who send money they can’t afford to give to his TV studio are nothing but a complete embarrassment to me.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:26 pmHow about a TP straw poll - cast your votes now!
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:27 pmWhen will Pat Robertson start spending some of his one billion dollar fortune to help the poor and the sick? That would be the Christian thing to do.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:27 pmI vote for Hillary
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:27 pmI vote for Obama
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:28 pmI vote for Edwards
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:28 pmRichardson
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:30 pmEdwards in ‘08. When Robertson and his 666 club claimed he lifted all that wight and had a video with him bench pressing some unGODly amount of weight that should have ended any press given to lunatic.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:32 pmHow long did God say it would be before he takes Pat?
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:34 pm#13: The cause is the Party. And it’s “vice-versaâ€.
Comment by Frank M
You are right and that is exactly why your “cause” and “party” are being flushed down the toilet as we speak. Let’s get together and share a beer the night after the 2008 election. I would love to see your head explode. I pity you.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:37 pmEdwards!
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:37 pmalthough he doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell, I vote for Gravel.
back on topic - i’m no expert in the field of psychiatry, but don’t schizophrenics often experience auditory hallucinations? What about delusions of grandeur?
ol’ pat needs some professional help.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:37 pmBush is a phony and so is Robertson, I hate to say this, but Christians are gullible and believe anything their pastors tell them. Very dangerous.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:40 pmNext time someone tells me it’s God’s will, I want to see if I’m getting an inheritance!
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:40 pmJust a thought… but would a real, bonafide prophet, someone to whom God actually spoke, really worry about what a little old man on 60 Minutes was gonna say about him?
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:41 pm“God’s going to give us China”
Place settings for 12?
How nice.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:42 pmJust a thought… but would a real, bonafide prophet, someone to whom God actually spoke, really worry about what a little old man on 60 Minutes was gonna say about him?
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — January 3, 2008 @ 5:41 pm
I already said this, ralph. Stop stealing my material.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:44 pm“God’s going to give us Chinaâ€
Place settings for 12?
How nice.
Comment by RUCerious — January 3, 2008 @ 5:42 pm
Good one!
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:44 pmPat is like a slickster who uses God and after the election he’ll name the winner. What’s truly sad is using God’s name and the people that follow him. People like Pat and Bush give a mad name to God and Christian Religion. One would think Americans knew the difference between Satan and God, I guess not. For those who do believe in the real God, you now understand why the United States is in the hands of Satan.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:45 pmSorry, gum. The perils of skimming a thread, I guess.
But you know what they say: if you’re going to steal, only steal from the best.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:51 pmGreat minds, Ralph.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:55 pm57 - No, manny, not angry - just laughing my friggin’ arse off at you idiot Repukes.
That’s all. And you have a real nice day now, OK?
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:56 pmIF YOU JUST TALKED TO GOD…WHY WOULD YOU CARE IF ANDY ROONEY MADE FUN OF YOU?
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:57 pmIF YOU JUST TALKED TO GOD…WHY WOULD YOU CARE IF ANDY ROONEY MADE FUN OF YOU?
Comment by rastaman — January 3, 2008 @ 5:57 pm
Jeez, gum, can you believe this guy? Stealing our material?
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:58 pmAnd the poll?
EDWARDS!
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:58 pm#13: The cause is the Party
Comment by Frank M — January 3, 2008 @ 4:33 pm
Don’t you think the cause should be the Constitution?
Nah, too freedom-y.
Pat’s milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:59 pmWhat has Pat Robertson ever done in his life that would suggest he is a favorite of God? Could it be that God loves him for having gold mines in Liberia? Could it be that God loves him for calling for the assassination of foreign leaders? Could it be that God loves him for accumulating a personal fortune that exceeds one billion dollars? Could it be that God loves him for scamming people out of their money through his TV show? What?
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:59 pm“God’s going to give us Chinaâ€
Place settings for 12?
How nice.
Comment by RUCerious — January 3, 2008 @ 5:42 pm
If God is going to give us China, I wish she would hurry up and get the lead out!
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:00 pmI wish she would hurry up and get the lead out!
Comment by Saint Augustine — January 3, 2008 @ 6:00 pm
marvelous!************
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:01 pmIf God is going to give us China, I wish she would hurry up and get the lead out!
Comment by Saint Augustine — January 3, 2008 @ 6:00 pm
See, Nevar! That’s how a pun is done.
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:02 pmJeez, gum, can you believe this guy? Stealing our material?
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — January 3, 2008 @ 5:58 pm
Appalling.
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:03 pmComment by Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver — January 3, 2008 @ 5:59 pm
God loves him because he’s rich. Rich! Rich! Rich!
You don’t get that rich without “God’s favor”. Or, a whole bunch of idiots sending you checks.
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:07 pmIf God is going to give us China, I wish she would hurry up and get the lead out!
Comment by Saint Augustine — January 3, 2008 @ 6:00 pm
Awesome! Worthy of many rim shots.
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:09 pmThey represent a specific branch of Christianity that is more vocal than the others, and has more access to power.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 3, 2008 @ 6:12 pm
It’s a significant slice of American Christians, at least as they self-identify. Something like 1/4 of the population is Evangelical Christian. Not all evangelicals are fans of Pat Robertson, of course, but it’s still a big chunk.
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:16 pmNeoconservative Christians are the people you are referring to.
They represent a specific branch of Christianity that is more vocal than the others, and has more access to power.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 3, 2008 @ 6:12 pm
And if they actually have a “deity hotline” the wires run to the center of the earth.
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:16 pmPat has been to the mountain top and seen the promised land of the ‘08 election, but it’s classified.
He would tell you but if he did he would have to condemn you to eternal damnation.
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:17 pmIt’s time for a new word. One which describes the hardcore religious-right enemies of reason.
Evangelicon.
Huh? Yes, or, no?
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:21 pmAwesome!! I like it. In fact, I intend to use it - but I will give you credit. ;o)
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:25 pmWell I didn’t say it didn’t. One quarter however is ONE quarter.
That leaves THREE quarters that should not be lumped into the group.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 3, 2008 @ 6:17 pm
I meant that 1/4 of the entire population is Evangelical Christian, not that they comprised 1/4 of Christians. There is a difference.
However, I agree that characterizing all Christians as fundie idiots is a huge mistake.
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:27 pmHas Jesus told him when he’s going “home” yet?
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:28 pmI usually don’t use the expression “drop dead” to anyone and I certainly wouldn’t mean it literally, but in this case, I think I could make an exception.
Awesome!! I like it. In fact, I intend to use it - but I will give you credit. ;o)
Comment by Leftside Annie — January 3, 2008 @ 6:25 pm
Thanx. You too BARTLEBEE. Spread the word. No charge. No need to give credit. I don’t want credit, just accountability from our “masters(?)”. A simple “Evangelicon TM” will do.
It does kinda sound like something produced in a giant, smoke-spewing, factory full of sweaty drones; don’t it?
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:31 pmIsn’t Robertson the owner of diamond mines in Africa where children are slaves working in horrible conditions?
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:34 pmDo you think he told God that?
However, I agree that characterizing all Christians as fundie idiots is a huge mistake.
Comment by gummitch — January 3, 2008 @ 6:27 pm
On the one hand; I agree. However, I’m sick of Christians using the “they aren’t REAL Christians” excuse. The Faith has created the monster. It’s high time they assume the responsibility and try to mitigate the damage.
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:35 pmEvangelicon is good.
My Evangelicalationists is completely unprounceable.
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:37 pmMy Uncle is an Evangelicon. His bible has serious knuckle marks in it. He’s never met a corrupt republican he wouldn’t vote for.
All democrats, to him, are nasty nword lovers…
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:38 pmIsn’t Robertson the owner of diamond mines in Africa where children are slaves working in horrible conditions?
Do you think he told God that?
Comment by Marie — January 3, 2008 @ 6:34 pm
I think it’s gold mines and diamond mines. Though, it’s his association with Charles Taylor which turns the stomach. Gold and diamonds are just shiny rocks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/ Pat_robertson#Charles_Taylor.2C_gold.2C_diamonds_and_racehorse_controversy
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:41 pmFrom what I can tell there are perhaps 54 million Christians in China a country of 1.4 billion people.
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:47 pmThis thread is really funny. Keep up the good work. I needed a good laugh. Thanks!
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:50 pmTHREE QUARTERS of the Christian community do NOT make up the rabid war mongering Evangelical neoconservative movement, and therefore, saying “Christians†is merely being prejudiced.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 3, 2008 @ 6:40 pm
True! There are two different groups which are, unfairly, lumped together.
However, I’m sick of the gentle, “real” Christians giving the “Evangelicons” a pass. I would prefer seeing the “real” Christians taking the “Evangelicons” to task and accept their share of the responsibility. The “bad” ones would not exist without the “good” ones.
Case in point: A very good friend of mine is a “Born again, Evangelical”. He’s a good, gentle, soul. But, he will vote for the most vocal “Christian” in any race. Even if said “Christian” is a complete (bleep) like Pat Robertson.
While I respect the Faith of the Faithful I think they do society a disservice by disavowing the scumbags(?) who use their, alleged, Faith as a weapon.
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:55 pmThe “bad†ones would not exist without the “good†ones.
I probably should have said:
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:57 pmThe “bad†ones would not PROSPER without the complicity of the “good†ones.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 3, 2008 @ 6:36 pm
Since the Christians and politicians speak out saying moderate muslums should reign in the radical muslums, why is asking the Christians to practice what they preach and reign in their radicals any different?
January 3rd, 2008 at 7:01 pmAs Gummitch correctly albeit apparently unintentionally stated, only ONE QUARTER of the Christian population makes up the evangelical movement that pushed George Bush into power, and supports him to this day.
And not even all of them.
THREE QUARTERS of the Christian community do NOT make up the rabid war mongering Evangelical neoconservative movement, and therefore, saying “Christians†is merely being prejudiced.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 3, 2008 @ 6:40 pm
You keep correcting me, but your numbers are wrong. 1/4 of the population of the United States is evangelical Christian, not 1/4 of the Christians in the United States.
I don’t mind you agreeing with me, but please stop correcting my already-correct information in order to do so.
January 3rd, 2008 at 7:04 pmThe 2004 survey of Religion and politics in the United States [2] identified the Evangelical percentage of the population at 26.3%;
http://www.WIKI.org
:|
Why you always want to take me on gummy, I don’t know.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 3, 2008 @ 7:09 pm
That’s just the number I was referring to: “26.3% of the POPULATION.”
That’s the POPULATION of the United States, Bartlebee.
From the wiki article on religion in the US.
January 3rd, 2008 at 7:20 pmI stand so corrected. Holy sh$t.
100 MILLION.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 3, 2008 @ 7:21 pm
I tend to block that information out myself, along with those numbers about how few Americans believe that Evolutionary Theory is more convincing than Genesis.
January 3rd, 2008 at 7:22 pmI would point out that people answering a poll saying they’re christian is a rather meaningless statistic. The more appropriate measure of the country’s religious bent would be how many go to church regularly and that is a far smaller number.
But, Robertson does remind me of a Paul Simon song:
“God only knows.
January 3rd, 2008 at 7:26 pmGod has his plan.
The information’s unavailable to the common man.”
100 MILLION.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 3, 2008 @ 7:21 pm
Scary…
Thanks for that info, gummitch. Now I’m going to have nightmares…
January 3rd, 2008 at 7:27 pmI think what we are all getting at is:
The “Evangelicons” (It’s my word and I’ll wear it out if I want to.) are the vocal, powerful, minority. And they would do less damage if the Christian majority would reign them in or withdraw their support. Most people, regardless of affiliation, are sick of their (bleep).
January 3rd, 2008 at 7:27 pmEvangelicon.
Huh? Yes, or, no?
Comment by Impolitics — January 3, 2008 @ 6:21 pm
YES!!! - and it does sound evil and menacing - perfect term for these batsh!t wingnuts….it kind of sounds like the bad robots from transformers
January 3rd, 2008 at 7:28 pmI would point out that people answering a poll saying they’re christian is a rather meaningless statistic. The more appropriate measure of the country’s religious bent would be how many go to church regularly and that is a far smaller number.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — January 3, 2008 @ 7:26 pm
A far better statistic would be how many people consider Faith as the prime test of a candidate. What makes that 26% dangerous is that they all vote, they vote as a block, and they only have one issue. Competence, intelligence, and ability are irrelevant as long as the candidate spouts the “right” dogma.
Very scary and very dangerous!
January 3rd, 2008 at 7:33 pmI thought we were smarter than that.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 3, 2008 @ 7:28 pm
My sister and her family are all quite brilliant people — academically. They’re Evangelical. I’ll never understand that.
Of course, they are also authoritarians, so that’s probably a big clue.
January 3rd, 2008 at 7:33 pmAnd then I saw the number. 103 MILLION.
After the paramedics revived me…..
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 3, 2008 @ 7:35 pm
And they vote, because that’s what they’ve been told to do. That’s what we’re up against.
January 3rd, 2008 at 7:39 pmI don’t believe that there are 100 million evangelican christians in this country, period. There’s something wrong with that analysis. I don’t know what it is, but I don’t believe it.
January 3rd, 2008 at 7:40 pmSmart is as smart does.
I don’t mean your family of course, I’m just saying in general.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 3, 2008 @ 7:37 pm
That’s why I added in “academically.” Otherwise, I’m sorry to say, they are sheep.
January 3rd, 2008 at 7:40 pmThat’s why I added in “academically.†Otherwise, I’m sorry to say, they are sheep.
Comment by Zooey — January 3, 2008 @ 7:40 pm
You know, some people like sheep. Ahem.
January 3rd, 2008 at 7:44 pmOK, first of all, it’s Wikipedia, so you have to take anything there with a grain of salt. Secondly, it says 52% of Christians in the country are Protestants. There are many kinds of protestants that aren’t evangelicals.
January 3rd, 2008 at 7:46 pmYou know, some people like sheep. Ahem.
Comment by gummitch — January 3, 2008 @ 7:44 pm
Human sheep.
I’m starting to appreciate the simple honesty of actual sheep.
January 3rd, 2008 at 7:55 pm“goes off alone with the Lord and then comes back to share with us what the Lord has shown him….HAHAHAHAHAHA, you betcha Pat, you and God and like real tight, lying bastard.
Pat: Hello, Magical Invisible Faerie in the sky.
Gay Porn Phone Service: Yes, Pat I see you are here for more advice I see.
etc. etc. etc.
Religion was invented when the first Charlatan met the first Fool.
Buck Fush
January 3rd, 2008 at 7:56 pmIntelligence has nothing to do with it; especially among people who are taught, or are predisposed, to “Believe” rather than “learn”. It’s a “chicken vs. egg” equation.
Look at the Fred Phelps/Westboro Baptist Church family (if it doesn’t make you puke!). They are intelligent, capable, educated people. But, they have been educated in such a way that the result is some of the most despicable people on the planet. If they had been born in the Mideast, they would be suicide bombers. Here? They picket military funerals.
January 3rd, 2008 at 7:58 pmBart, take a deep breath and think about it. The current population of the U.S. is 303 million. 100 million evangelicals would mean one in three Americans is an evangelical. Come on. That just cannot be accurate.
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:02 pmIMpolitics, there is a difference between educated and intelligent, just as there is a difference between ignorant and stupid.
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:04 pmIntelligence has nothing to do with it; especially among people who are taught, or are predisposed, to “Believe†rather than “learnâ€. It’s a “chicken vs. egg†equation.
Comment by Impolitics — January 3, 2008 @ 7:58 pm
My sister and I were raised in the same home. She used to be “normal.” But since she married the dork, she’s disavowed evolution, and will actually say to my face that the Grand Canyon was formed by the damned Noah flood, and the earth was created in 6 (7? whatever) days.
She is an RN who does highly specialized work in a Neo-Natal ICU, graduated top of her class. She has CHOSEN to “believe.”
We don’t talk politics or religion….
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:10 pmBart, take a deep breath and think about it. The current population of the U.S. is 303 million. 100 million evangelicals would mean one in three Americans is an evangelical. Come on. That just cannot be accurate.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — January 3, 2008 @ 8:02 pm
Well. I think what they are getting at is that 100 million identify themselves as belonging to a church which falls under the broad definition of “evangelical”. I’m pretty sure that includes all Baptist and Pentecostal churches. The dangerous ones are those who swallow the “hate speak” of the radical rightwing minority.
What’s encouraging is that many good people appear to be breaking with the hateful message of the Evangelicons and are returning to the gentle message of Jesus.
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:17 pmWhat’s encouraging is that many good people appear to be breaking with the hateful message of the Evangelicons and are returning to the gentle message of Jesus.
Comment by Impolitics — January 3, 2008 @ 8:17 pm
Aw crap. I hit the button before I was done.
Those good people are finding it difficult to equate the “wars” with that gentle message.
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:21 pmDang! You people are faster than my slow modem. Can’t you give the new guy a chance to get up to speed? LOL!
IMpolitics, there is a difference between educated and intelligent, just as there is a difference between ignorant and stupid.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — January 3, 2008 @ 8:04 pm
Agreed. I think that’s the point I was trying to make.
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:26 pmI PRAY FOR YOUR RAPTURE EVERY DAY, YOU LYING FU(K.
January 3rd, 2008 at 9:32 pmPlease stop using my name for your own bloficated ego.
Sincerely,
God
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:48 pmI would love to know how ‘Jesus’ stole the last two elections, and by saying that God told him who will win the next one, if ‘Jesus’ have plans to steal another one?!!!
January 3rd, 2008 at 11:15 pmHow come god never tells these pontificators and assorted bloviators to just STFU?
It seems like the logical course of action; an absolute no-brainer.
January 3rd, 2008 at 11:48 pmI can’t quite understand how anything this guy thinks or says is relevant.
January 4th, 2008 at 1:56 amThe only place you should see his grill is somewhere I personally
never look . . . The Enquirer.
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I’m sorry, but was Pat politicizing his religion again,
or merely just pastoring his politics?
Isn’t that a Federal crime, or something?
I guess this could be why he doesn’t spill da beans.
But seriously,
IF America is supposed to be a “Christian Nation”
How is preemptive war “Christ like”? Kill thy brother… REALLY?
Another Pharisee… “Woe to ye…”
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January 4th, 2008 at 2:00 amI’m sorry, but was Pat politicizing his religion again,
or merely just pastoring his politics?
Isn’t that a Federal crime, or something?
I guess this could be why he doesn’t spill da beans.
But seriously,
IF America is supposed to be a “Christian Nationâ€
How is preemptive war “Christ like� Kill thy brother… REALLY?
Another Pharisee… “Woe to ye…â€
.
Comment by Max-1 — January 4, 2008 @ 2:00 am
Amen, brother. Those are some true words.
January 4th, 2008 at 2:29 amOh what a daffy Christo-fascist Zionist extreme zealot. Why doesn’t he get a big red swastika tattooed on his forehead like Charles Manson. Then go start some Dominionist Nazi Theocratic cult. The Kool-Aid, this boob must have an IV drip connected while he sleeps. What a scary Bible thumper this money grubbing demon is.
January 4th, 2008 at 5:49 amremember the movie “God Told Me To,” about a psycho sniper in NYC? that guy was more together than Robertson…
January 4th, 2008 at 1:20 pmGod told me who is going to win the 2004 superbowl; but I’ll be damned if I’ll tell you.
January 4th, 2008 at 4:10 pmWhy doesn’t god tell him the numbers for the next powerball pick and then he could just buy the presidency like everyone else does.
January 4th, 2008 at 10:04 pmSince much of what God told him in the past didn’t happen, is he willing to admit that God lied to him?
January 5th, 2008 at 11:10 amEvery time pat robertson makes a prediction, it already happened.
here is pat robertson’s prediction for 2009
there will be famine in africa
January 5th, 2008 at 1:59 pmpopulation will grow
AIDS & cancer will kill millions
there is war & instability in the middle east
oil prices will continue to rise
the dollar will fall
there will be inflation in america
a president will be inagurated in 2009
crime will increase
the weather will change
america will spend billions on defense
pat robertson will continue to ask for $$$
The Lord scewed-up if he/she is sending messages thru this ding-a-ling! Maybe he/she had a bad day. Robertson, I’ve got a message from God and it says right here, let me read it, “F*** off!”
January 6th, 2008 at 8:09 am