Comments on: Administration Presses Saudi Government On Imprisoned Blogger, Ignored Gang Rape Victim http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:50:46 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: BillinChicago http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-4215461 BillinChicago Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:55:32 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/#comment-4215461 It'll take more than arresting bloggers and whipping rape victims to get Pres. Bush to dislodge his lips from Prince Bandar's posterior! And Lord knows they've tried: <a href="http://www.asecondlookatthesaudis.com" rel="nofollow">www.asecondlookatthesaudis.com </a> To paraphrase Charlton Heston, they'll have to pry the Prince's posterior ". . . from his cold dead lips." It’ll take more than arresting bloggers and whipping rape victims to get Pres. Bush to dislodge his lips from Prince Bandar’s posterior!

And Lord knows they’ve tried:

http://www.asecondlookatthesaudis.com

To paraphrase Charlton Heston, they’ll have to pry the Prince’s posterior “. . . from his cold dead lips.”

]]> By: Ms_Joanne http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-4215266 Ms_Joanne Fri, 04 Jan 2008 19:27:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/#comment-4215266 <em>Comment by MapleStreet — January 4, 2008 @ 2:10 pm </em> Because Saudi men in the kingdom would have a fit. You MUST keep women under the thumb no matter what it takes and the threat of rape and its consequences to the woman does that nicely. And why would the admin say anything? They don't give two craps about women here any more than there. How many US women were raped by coworkers under State - which is doing NOTHING about it. Women are chattel. Comment by MapleStreet — January 4, 2008 @ 2:10 pm

Because Saudi men in the kingdom would have a fit. You MUST keep women under the thumb no matter what it takes and the threat of rape and its consequences to the woman does that nicely.

And why would the admin say anything? They don’t give two craps about women here any more than there. How many US women were raped by coworkers under State – which is doing NOTHING about it.

Women are chattel.

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-4215240 MapleStreet Fri, 04 Jan 2008 19:10:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/#comment-4215240 Why not use the simple diplomatic channel: Bushco's Carlyle group is major advisor and image consultant to Saudis. Just ask papa to tell the Saudis that their actions give them a bad image. Why is it so difficult (unless Shrub wants it to be difficult for some reason ?) Why not use the simple diplomatic channel: Bushco’s Carlyle group is major advisor and image consultant to Saudis. Just ask papa to tell the Saudis that their actions give them a bad image.

Why is it so difficult (unless Shrub wants it to be difficult for some reason ?)

]]> By: theswan http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-4215226 theswan Fri, 04 Jan 2008 19:04:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/#comment-4215226 When you have people like McCormick representing State it is no wonder that we are hated around the world. The pukes have this way of saying nothing when they speak. It is so administration to hide behind drule like "astonished... but nothing more to offer", or the "message was clear" (ly a lie). The message was in fact a message that will go nowhere. If it is unintelligable in english imagine what it ment in farce or Arabian, or any language. And that is the way they conduct business, yours and mind. The message from our goverment, state in the instance, to all around the world, including us Americans is shut up, it's none of your business. The word of the administration is the unspoken word. Or the lie. It's sooo convienent and so intellectually republican that it will always get lost. We the People of all the world have regressed for seven years due to the "Brownie" ways of the republicans. May this end soon. And may they all go to the Hague. When you have people like McCormick representing State it is no wonder that we are hated around the world. The pukes have this way of saying nothing when they speak. It is so administration to hide behind drule like “astonished… but nothing more to offer”, or the “message was clear” (ly a lie). The message was in fact a message that will go nowhere. If it is unintelligable in english imagine what it ment in farce or Arabian, or any language. And that is the way they conduct business, yours and mind.
The message from our goverment, state in the instance, to all around the world, including us Americans is shut up, it’s none of your business. The word of the administration is the unspoken word. Or the lie. It’s sooo convienent and so intellectually republican that it will always get lost.
We the People of all the world have regressed for seven years due to the “Brownie” ways of the republicans.
May this end soon. And may they all go to the Hague.

]]> By: wisedup http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-4215197 wisedup Fri, 04 Jan 2008 18:52:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/#comment-4215197 Huck: "When did all this happen??????". Huck: “When did all this happen??????”.

]]> By: Ms_Joanne http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-4215073 Ms_Joanne Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:56:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/#comment-4215073 Additionally, a move to oil by euro would be a HUGE blow to the USD. Think junk bonds but only for currency. At one point it cost 1000 liera (sic. The old Italian currency) - give or take a few thou to buy a cup of coffee. I would expect that gas would surge to $5 or more a gallon - which would still be cheap on the world stage. It's already beyond that in Europe (and has been) for a long time. Additionally, a move to oil by euro would be a HUGE blow to the USD. Think junk bonds but only for currency. At one point it cost 1000 liera (sic. The old Italian currency) – give or take a few thou to buy a cup of coffee. I would expect that gas would surge to $5 or more a gallon – which would still be cheap on the world stage. It’s already beyond that in Europe (and has been) for a long time.

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-4215070 bilbobaggins Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:56:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/#comment-4215070 <em>I thought the rape victim was “pardoned”, to get all us Westerners to leave Saudi Arabia alone. Comment by ForTruth </em> The rape victim was pardoned. But that doesn't excuse Bush ignoring the problem when it was front and center in the news. I agree with a previous poster, something more is going on here than the imprisonment of a blogger. Bloggers are certainly not high on Bush's list of friends. I thought the rape victim was “pardoned”, to get all us Westerners to leave Saudi Arabia alone.
Comment by ForTruth

The rape victim was pardoned. But that doesn’t excuse Bush ignoring the problem when it was front and center in the news. I agree with a previous poster, something more is going on here than the imprisonment of a blogger. Bloggers are certainly not high on Bush’s list of friends.

]]> By: Leftside Annie http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-4215061 Leftside Annie Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:52:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/#comment-4215061 Good grief. These disgusting hypocrites make me sick. Good grief. These disgusting hypocrites make me sick.

]]> By: Lesly http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-4215049 Lesly Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:37:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/#comment-4215049 <blockquote>Administration Presses Saudi Government On Imprisoned Blogger, Ignored Gang Rape Victim</blockquote> I'm glad you guys noticed. Obviously, she should have blogged her gang rape and second rape at the hands of Saudi justice.

Administration Presses Saudi Government On Imprisoned Blogger, Ignored Gang Rape Victim

I’m glad you guys noticed. Obviously, she should have blogged her gang rape and second rape at the hands of Saudi justice.

]]> By: GSD http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-4215045 GSD Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:31:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/#comment-4215045 Egypt and Iran have been working on mending fences too. Though one sticking point is the fact that Iran has a big bill-board up and a street honoring one of Sadat's assassins. Egypt wants it taken down and I can't blame them. -GSD Egypt and Iran have been working on mending fences too. Though one sticking point is the fact that Iran has a big bill-board up and a street honoring one of Sadat’s assassins.

Egypt wants it taken down and I can’t blame them.

-GSD

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-4215044 RUCerious Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:30:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/#comment-4215044 MCCORMACK: It was conveyed back here in Washington at a relatively senior level. That would be a senior in high school, texting another senior in SA. MCCORMACK: It was conveyed back here in Washington at a relatively senior level.

That would be a senior in high school, texting another senior in SA.

]]> By: Frosty Cupcake http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-4215035 Frosty Cupcake Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:22:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/#comment-4215035 Thanks, BARTLEBEE and toasterhead. :) Thanks, BARTLEBEE and toasterhead.

:)

]]> By: toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-4215034 toasterhead Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:22:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/#comment-4215034 <i>How can Bush & the USA complain to SA when we TORTURE others, too? Comment by Zimzone — January 4, 2008 @ 12:20 pm</i> Good point. Hell, some of our renditonees might be in the same cell block as Fouad. How can Bush & the USA complain to SA when we TORTURE others, too?

Comment by Zimzone — January 4, 2008 @ 12:20 pm

Good point. Hell, some of our renditonees might be in the same cell block as Fouad.

]]> By: gummitch http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-4215033 gummitch Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:22:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/#comment-4215033 I would appreciate it if someone would qualify the term "relatively high level" before I give too much credit to the Bush administration. "Relatively high level" could be a postal clerk. I would appreciate it if someone would qualify the term “relatively high level” before I give too much credit to the Bush administration. “Relatively high level” could be a postal clerk.

]]> By: toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-4215030 toasterhead Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:21:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/#comment-4215030 <i>I suspect this is just another way of widening tensions between Iran and the US, and to reinforce the idea that they are an evil oppressive regime, in order to help pave the way for military action. Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 4, 2008 @ 12:16 pm</i> It is worth noting that Ahmedinejad and King Abd Allah have been meeting recently, and that relations seem to be improving between Iran and Saudi Arabia. It'll be very interesting to see how that plays out. I suspect this is just another way of widening tensions between Iran and the US, and to reinforce the idea that they are an evil oppressive regime, in order to help pave the way for military action.

Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 4, 2008 @ 12:16 pm

It is worth noting that Ahmedinejad and King Abd Allah have been meeting recently, and that relations seem to be improving between Iran and Saudi Arabia. It’ll be very interesting to see how that plays out.

]]> By: Zimzone http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-4215029 Zimzone Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:20:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/#comment-4215029 How can Bush & the USA complain to SA when we TORTURE others, too? How can Bush & the USA complain to SA when we TORTURE others, too?

]]> By: toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-4215027 toasterhead Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:17:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/#comment-4215027 <i>Can any of you smart people explain why that is so? Would it further devalue the dollar? Or does it have to do with our foreign debt? Comment by Frosty Cupcake — January 4, 2008 @ 12:11 pm</i> The fact that the Saudi oil market trades in dollars ensures that there will always be a demand for dollars in the rest of the world. Since the world runs on oil, and since there's a finite supply of dollars, this arrangement maintains the value of the dollar. When countries such as Venezuela and Iran begin trading in yen and Euros, it reduces the demand for dollars, thus dropping the value of the dollar. That's how I understand it, anyhow. Can any of you smart people explain why that is so? Would it further devalue the dollar? Or does it have to do with our foreign debt?

Comment by Frosty Cupcake — January 4, 2008 @ 12:11 pm

The fact that the Saudi oil market trades in dollars ensures that there will always be a demand for dollars in the rest of the world. Since the world runs on oil, and since there’s a finite supply of dollars, this arrangement maintains the value of the dollar. When countries such as Venezuela and Iran begin trading in yen and Euros, it reduces the demand for dollars, thus dropping the value of the dollar.

That’s how I understand it, anyhow.

]]> By: toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-4215021 toasterhead Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:13:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/#comment-4215021 <i>I find it all rather puzzling that the Bush State Dept would express any concern over a Saudi blogger. Something else must be at play here. Comment by Frosty Cupcake — January 4, 2008 @ 12:00 pm</i> I wonder if now they'll start talking to high-level officials in Egypt about releasing <a href="http://eyestillopen.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Ahmed Mohassan</a>, <a href="http://aymanh.com/free-alaa-campaign" rel="nofollow">Alaa Abd al-Fattah</a>, and <a href="http://freekareem.org/" rel="nofollow">Kareem Amer</a>, too. I find it all rather puzzling that the Bush State Dept would express any concern over a Saudi blogger. Something else must be at play here.

Comment by Frosty Cupcake — January 4, 2008 @ 12:00 pm

I wonder if now they’ll start talking to high-level officials in Egypt about releasing Ahmed Mohassan, Alaa Abd al-Fattah, and Kareem Amer, too.

]]> By: GSD http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-4215020 GSD Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:13:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/#comment-4215020 7 years and finally the Bush Admin. behaves honorably for once. Amazing. -GSD 7 years and finally the Bush Admin. behaves honorably for once.

Amazing.

-GSD

]]> By: Frosty Cupcake http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-4215018 Frosty Cupcake Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:11:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/04/saudi-blogger/#comment-4215018 As an aside: The Sauds have worked to keep the dollar as the standard currency of oil (because, of course, they hold so many). I keep hearing that it would be bad for the dollar to lose out to the euro as the standard for oil. Can any of you smart people explain why that is so? Would it further devalue the dollar? Or does it have to do with our foreign debt? As an aside:

The Sauds have worked to keep the dollar as the standard currency of oil (because, of course, they hold so many). I keep hearing that it would be bad for the dollar to lose out to the euro as the standard for oil.

Can any of you smart people explain why that is so? Would it further devalue the dollar? Or does it have to do with our foreign debt?

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