George McGovern calls for impeachment.
George McGovern calls for impeachment.
In today’s Washington Post, former presidential candidate George McGovern calls for Bush and Cheney’s impeachment:
After the 1972 presidential election, I stood clear of calls to impeach President Richard M. Nixon for his misconduct during the campaign. I thought that my joining the impeachment effort would be seen as an expression of personal vengeance toward the president who had defeated me.
Today I have made a different choice. […]
I have not been heavily involved in singing the praises of the Nixon administration. But the case for impeaching Bush and Cheney is far stronger than was the case against Nixon and Vice President Spiro T. Agnew after the 1972 election. The nation would be much more secure and productive under a Nixon presidency than with Bush. Indeed, has any administration in our national history been so damaging as the Bush-Cheney era?
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George McGovern is a good, caring and talented public servant. He makes a strong case for impeachment.
Although Bush and Cheney did most of the work of building that case for him.
January 6th, 2008 at 12:07 pmI worked for McGovern’s election and still love his policy insight and acumen.
January 6th, 2008 at 12:11 pmIndeed, has any administration in our national history been so damaging as the Bush-Cheney era?
No. Not by a long shot.
January 6th, 2008 at 12:15 pmSorry, Dave C., but you’re wrong and Senator McGovern is correct.
No administration in American history has damaged the principles upon which this nation was founded as much as the Bush-Cheney regime.
The list of Constitutional crimes and violations of federal laws under the Bush-Cheney administration is staggering and is unparalleled in our nation’s history.
January 6th, 2008 at 12:19 pmDon in Texas — read Dave C’s response again. He was, indeed, emphatically agreeing with McGovern.
January 6th, 2008 at 12:24 pmDon, I think Dave C. agrees with you.
January 6th, 2008 at 12:24 pmthis is a start
January 6th, 2008 at 12:24 pmsign the petition -
Wexler wants hearings on Cheney Impeachment.
As a member of the Greatest Generation, WWII bomber pilot, McGovern was correct about Viet Nam and about the damage done to America by this administration. At some point history will reward him with an admission that he was/is correct.
January 6th, 2008 at 12:25 pmNow that the election season has started impeachment is not possible. Reid and Pelosi made sure to stop impeachment earlier, so now they do not have to do anything about it.
January 6th, 2008 at 12:44 pmThere has never been a more criminal incompetent war profiting corporate thugs as Bush/Cheney have been, and it is a crying shame that congress does not have the votes to Impeach the both of them.
It is the criminal republican party that has caused this disaster with their “back the party at all costs” mentality.
I certainly hope that the coming election destroys the republican party beyond all repart, these traitors to the country need to be destroyed to the point where they cannot reform any power at all.
Bush/Cheney
Hague Trials ‘09
Edwards/Obama ‘09
Buck Fush
January 6th, 2008 at 12:45 pmIndeed, if any administration was deserving of impeachment and criminal charges, it is this one.
January 6th, 2008 at 12:49 pmOne could argue the presidency of James Buchanan was worse. His inaction left the country on the inevitable path to our Civil War, and left it up to his successor to fight it out.
Thus far Bush hasn’t driven the populace towards such internal strife, but he has about 12 months to go….
January 6th, 2008 at 12:49 pmMarie,
I agree wholeheartedly.
January 6th, 2008 at 12:50 pmThank you sir; You were the last politician I worked for as well. What has happened since, I feel is a sincere response to your wanting to clean up government. They almost lost their control over the allmighty dollar to you, and they would have killed you for it had you been elected
impeach, now. half of congress appears complicit though, perhaps 3/4.
January 6th, 2008 at 12:52 pmPersonally, I wouldn’t mind it if John McCain stayed in Iraq for the next 10,000 years. Perhaps, he could even single-handedly save the Iraqi economy by buying rugs in the Baghdad markets every day.
An earlier poster commented that McCain’s bus has left the depot. Quite true. And it was a short bus at that.
January 6th, 2008 at 1:03 pmEven without concrete basis Bush/Cheney should have been impeached LONG AGO just based on their
approval numbers.
January 6th, 2008 at 1:22 pmSo far too much talk and no action… the Rat Pelosi is not even commenting on it. And how about her knowing of the Torture case on the tapes… Replace Rat Pelosi and get on with the business of Impeachmen, if and if the US is interested in restoring some of its inexistent international credibility… INDICT , IMPEACH , IMPRISON GEORGE/CHENNEY AND THEIR JUNTA!
January 6th, 2008 at 1:40 pmIt is unfortunate and somewhat embarrassing for the former senator to cite the Johns Hopkins/Lancet study in his indictment of the current administration given the fact that just this week National Journal published the results of its investigation of the Lancet study and concluded it was a flawed and biased study with unreliable and unsupported conclusions….Key passage (a bit lengthy):
“Officials at Iraq Body Count strongly opposed the Iraq war yet issued a detailed critique of the Lancet II study. Researchers wading into a field that is this fraught with danger have a responsibility not to be reckless with statistics, the group said. The numbers claimed by the Lancet study would, under the normal ratios of warfare, result in more than a million Iraqis wounded seriously enough to require medical treatment, according to this critique. Yet official sources in Iraq have not reported any such phenomenon. An Iraq Body Count analysis showed that the Lancet II numbers would have meant that 1,000 Iraqis were dying every day during the first half of 2006, “with less than a tenth of them being noticed by any public surveillance mechanisms.” The February 2006 bombing of the Golden Mosque is widely credited with plunging Iraq into civil war, yet the Lancet II report posits the equivalent of five to 10 bombings of this magnitude in Iraq every day for three years.
“In the light of such extreme and improbable implications,” the Iraq Body Count report stated, “a rational alternative conclusion to be considered is that the authors have drawn conclusions from unrepresentative data.”
Full story:
January 6th, 2008 at 1:45 pmhttp://news.nationaljournal.com/articles/databomb/index.htm
Impeaching Bush & Cheney Based on the Facts?
Will America Heal its wounds in the long term or further its Division & Fractures by attempting to Impeach Bush & Cheney?
http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1461
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January 6th, 2008 at 2:01 pmManslagt, did anger management class let out early? Two posts two negative aggressive sort of statements. Please try to engage us with more info to support your thoughts. How do you believeMcGovern nearly destroyed his party and why do you think he may have lost his mental capacities in ‘69? Thanks
January 6th, 2008 at 2:13 pmHere is McGoverns brain ‘10′ and here is GWB’S brain ‘ . ‘
January 6th, 2008 at 2:27 pmY’all,
I wouldn’t waste time on Manslaw. Just another time wasting troll! Sounds a lot like JackAss Moron Hitler actually.
January 6th, 2008 at 3:21 pmdixie blood — right on.
January 6th, 2008 at 3:50 pmWhere has Mc Govern been the last 7 years. Why did he wait until the last year in the term of a lame duck president to make his public statement. It is unlikely that at this late stage with the presidential campaign heating up that Congress will do anything.
The country needs to focus on choosing the right person to lead our country in 2009.
January 6th, 2008 at 3:53 pmMcGovern is a loser who nearly destroyed his party.
Comment by Manslagt — January 6, 2008 @ 1:52 pm
You’re confusing a heroic bomber pilot with George Bush, a traitor and deserter. You’re willfully stupid.
January 6th, 2008 at 3:58 pmHe’s still arounds, but engaged? I think his mind went some time around 1969.
Comment by Manslagt — January 6, 2008 @ 1:55 pm
Now you’re confusing him with yourself. it happens to your rightards when you smoke too many bananas.
January 6th, 2008 at 3:59 pmGeorge McGovern calls for the impeachment of Bush and Cheney. I couldn’t agree more and it’s not a vindictive issue with me. My thoughts are that we as a nation should expect a higher level of accountability from the White House. Should dishonesty and lawlessness be excepted from our top leaders? Should we except fabricated rationale for war or intentionally misleading the nation in so many areas? Can we progress as a nation by ignoring abject failures, gross incompetence, and blatant disregard of our Constitution? As I recall, we elected representatives that promised to “drain the swamp” yet now seem to turn their backs on the corruption. If we are to regain our status as a reputable nation, we must demand an honorable leadership, not one that defies the laws of the land for their own profit and political gain. This is an administration that would slaughter the village milk producing cow in order to sell the prime rib for profit, leaving the carcass for the villagers to bury while telling them it’s in their best interest, only to provoke fear mongering into those that balk. Should this be acceptable for future leadership? It’s obviously time to take our country back. Andy
January 6th, 2008 at 4:13 pmHow was FDR following the principles of this nation when he and Harold Ickes locked up 120,000 Japanese-Americans?
Comment by Manslagt — January 6, 2008 @ 1:53 pm
If only Clinton had done this…then it would be perfectly ok.
January 6th, 2008 at 4:27 pmRemember that little detainment facility called “Gitmo” George and the boys came up with? Same idea as above. Both wrong. Subject not changed, nice try though.
EVIL BY ANY OTHER NAME
George W. Bush personifies the most malevolent, irredeemable and diabolic aspects of mankind. Not only is he wantonly destructive, purposefully dishonest and shamelessly unremorseful, he disgracefully defends his catastrophic decisions by hiding and perpetuating the devastating impact they have on the lives of defenseless human beings. Hundreds of thousands of innocent children, women and men, who have not harbored a harmful thought toward another human being, have been murdered, eviscerated and maimed as a direct result of George W. Bush being the president of the United States of America. And yet, his overriding priority is to prolong the inhuman carnage he has instigated, not to end it. George W. Bush is an indelibly chilling example of what man is capable of doing to his fellow man……the worst example imaginable.
IMPEACHMENT is the only means we have of stopping the cataclysmic consequences of the unrelenting IGNORANCE, ARROGANCE, INCOMPETENCE, DISHONESTIES, INSECURITIES, HOSTILE TEMPERAMENT, VINDICTIVENESS and PRONOUNCED PSYCHOLOGICAL DEFECTS of George W. Bush. He is an intellectually and emotionally mean-spirited immature child who is destroying America’s honor and integrity single-handedly. And politically correct Democrats are standing by watching as he dismantles our Constitution and rules of law creating an all powerful and self-ruling/policing ONE branch oppressive/fascist American government. No individual in our history is more deserving of CONDEMNATION and PROSECUTION than George W. Bush!
January 6th, 2008 at 4:38 pmBuckieBoy - and may I add, Hillary Clinton for Attorney General. She has some serious scores to settle. The Bush Cartel won’t be able to get out of this country fast enough once Hillary goes after them. There will be a special prosecutor, no doubt about that.
January 6th, 2008 at 4:48 pmRE:
January 6th, 2008 at 5:27 pmRE: Manslagt…folks this is a classic troll. Best thing to do to not feed him by giving any kind of response. He will shrivel up just like his manhood has done long ago.
January 6th, 2008 at 5:28 pmWell put Osage. I made the statement when GWB was Governor of Texas that he’d be the nearest thing to an Antichrist that I’d see in my lifetime. Why he hasn’t been held accountable to date is beyond me. I only hope that it will become lessons learned rather than an expected norm.
January 6th, 2008 at 6:23 pmThank you George McGovern, for upholding our Constitution with the overdue call to impeachment Bush and Cheney — Warmongers who have destroyed our great nation.
January 6th, 2008 at 6:33 pmComment by Manslagt — January 6, 2008 @ 9:52 pm
funny come from somebody willingly sucking the cock of a deserter and mass-murderer. Clinton’s not the president, you dolt. Bush is the one amassing the war crimes and running the USA into the ground. that 8 years of peace and prosperity really has you rightards itchy, hey? Bush/Cheny/Rice failed the USA completely on 9/11. Clinton looks like George Washington compared to them. but don’t let the facts get in your way; treasonous sociopaths tend to ignore the truth, and you’re following that path very well.
January 6th, 2008 at 10:01 pmA day late and a dollar short. McGovern should ave said this years ago… not that anybody would have listened to him anyway. It’s too late to start impeachment at this point.
Just better hope that we don’t have a 9/11 anniversary attack this September. Read up on NSPD-51 to see what I mean…
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=nspd-51
January 7th, 2008 at 6:38 amWow — the trolls have really taken over this thread. How did we get sucked into a discussion about FDR, Japanese internment camps, and Gitmo on a thread about McGovern’s statement about impeachment?
And why, instead of defending their guys Bush and Cheney and explaining why they should NOT be impeached, are the trolls spending their time bashing McGovern?
It’s typical troll behavior. Distract with unrelated issues and discredit the messenger. Those are the only tactics they can use, since the only defense of Bush and Cheney they have left in their toolbox is to invent some sort of “Clinton did it too” story.
January 7th, 2008 at 7:12 amIt’s all they’ve got Molly. Typical GOP style. When you can’t defend your own criminal behavior simply project all the negatives to others and hope nobody notices. It’s been working for them for so long they’ve lost the ability to tell right from wrong. To them “wrong” means not destroying ALL of the evidence. “Right” means leaving ABSOLUTELY no paper trail to follow back to them and their crimes. The thought of NOT commiting the crime in the first place doesn’t even seem to occur to them, they’ve been at it so long it’s all just a game. The country is waking up to their methods and THIS seems to piss them off more than the reality that they support the criminal behaviour that has been the GOPs bread & butter for so long.
January 7th, 2008 at 8:46 am100% wrong good_golly. Hearings haven’t started now for a miriad of reasons but proof of guilt is NOT among them. Republican obstructionism to justice, a looming presidential election and what our representitives see as more pressing issues (Iraq) are among some of the reasons. The evidence is there and it’s overwhelming. With seven years of unobstructed wanton criminality there are so many crimes to investigate where do you start? It’ll take years to sort through and although McGovern is absolutely correct that there is practically no one more deserving of impeachment than the current Administration, sadly for the people who love their country and waht it once stood for (not blind faith in their corrupt leaders) justice can’t come soon enough. Our only hope may be that our next president will investigate the long list of crimes commited, but I won’t hold my breath.
January 7th, 2008 at 9:41 amManslagt, as usual you are so full of shit that it’s laughable. If President Clinton did absolutely ANYTHING improper it would have been proven during his eight year rectal exam by the GOP. Not wanting to disclose a private indiscretion and trying to hide it was THE ONLY THING you Goopers could find. You RepubliCONS cry witch hunt everytime a trace of oversight is sensed on the breeze, but justify to yourselves the millions waisted investigating Clinton unfruitfully for all those years. The “Clinton did it too” mantra is getting so old, you guys look ridiculous. If Clinton broke crimes then he should be held accountable. Your party spent so much time and money trying to find something, anything to pin on him but came up blank. Do you have some new evidence that we haven’t heard before, or just the deep hatred for one of the best Presidents in our lifetime? In your eyes, the crimes of your party (treason, obstruction of justice, shredding the Constitution, lying us into armed conflict with Iraq at the expense of engaging the true War on Terror, intentionally installing unqualified lackies to undermine every branch of our Government, illegally spying on innocent Americans rather than chasing down actual terrorists, illegally torturing detainees…etc.). These crimes all pale in the face of a consentual bj to the Rightwing. Go fly your lies and conspiracies over at RedState where the 28%ers would rather spend their time in a perpetual “Clinton did it too” circle jerk ’till the end of time while hiding your heads in the sand as our Country and all it once stood for circle the toilet thanks to the crimes and mis management of the Bush Administration.
January 7th, 2008 at 11:17 am“Indeed, has any administration in our national history been so damaging as the Bush-Cheney era?â€
Nope!
Nice hearing from you again, George! It’s sad we don’t have a candidate like you to choose from for the next election.
January 7th, 2008 at 11:40 amClinton conducted warrantless searches in public housing (i.e., innocent Americans), launched a preemptive attack on Iraq after saying Saddam had WMD (which he apparently did not have), claimed Iraq and al Qaeda were cooperating on weapons production, enacted the policy of extraordinary rendition (which included torture), ignored warnings concerning terrorist threats, launched an illegal war of choice on Kosovo, and more.
You moonbats claim that these are all impeachable offenses when committed by Bush. You’re hypocrites.
Comment by Manslagt — January 7, 2008 @ 11:45 am
if true, they are impeachable offenses! so where is the hypocrisy?
January 7th, 2008 at 11:57 aminstead the repugnicans impeach him for getting his dick sucked by a consenting adult. brilliant!
somewhat misguided set of principles, don’t ya think?
BTW, Clinton was impeached because he committed perjury and obstruction of justice vis-a-vis a sexual harassment lawsuit filed against him.
Comment by Manslagt — January 7, 2008 @ 12:36 pm
again, of all the impeachable offenses you list, the repugnicans went after him for for LYING about getting a blow job from a consenting adult. That some set of priorities and talk about hypocrisy! I mean come on, Manslagt! How many lying, repugnicans were caught with their pants down during the clinton and cheney administrations? at least bill’s little tryst was with an adult of the opposite persuasion. The fact is, conservative republicans wrote the book on hypocrisy. They prove it time and time again.
And btw, you seem to think that all of us so called “moonbats” are card-carrying members of the Bill Clinton fan club. you’re terribly mistaken. I questioned his integrity from the very beginning and he was too conservative for my liking. yes, i voted for him, but it was a case of “the lesser of two evilsâ€. al gore would’ve been a far superior POTUS in my mind.
January 7th, 2008 at 1:53 pmNo hypocrisy here, manslagt!
Manslagt,
okay, he committed perjury in relation to a sexual harassment lawsuit.
perjury = lying, correct?
what did he lie about?
How would you rank the following impeachable offenses with #1 being the most egregious and #7 the least?
(your list, btw)
a. warrantless searches
b. preemptive attack on Iraq after saying Saddam had WMD (which he apparently did not have)
c. claimed Iraq and al Qaeda were cooperating on weapons production
d. enacted the policy of extraordinary rendition (which included torture)
e. ignored warnings concerning terrorist threats
f. launched an illegal war of choice on Kosovo
g. committing perjury and obstruction of justice in relation to a sexual harassment lawsuit
is it a stretch to say that most reasonable people would have perjury and obstruction of justice in relation to a sexual harassment lawsuit at or very near the bottom of the list? If so, then why did the repugnicans run with it? Do they consider things like an illegal war, torture and warrantless searches minor transgressions? Not impeachable offenses? Where are their priorities?
I guess it explains a lot.
your last statement regarding gore is not worthy of a response.
January 7th, 2008 at 3:27 pmAdios, chief!