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New Health Care Ad: ‘Every American Deserves CheneyCare’

cheneyhealthad.jpgLast month, the California Nurses Association and the National Nurses Organizing Committee ran ads in Iowa newspapers advocating for a single-payer health-care bill, highlighting the fact Vice President Dick Cheney has benefited from his government-provided coverage. “If he were anyone else, he’d probably be dead by now” due to his long history of health problems, claimed the ad.

In the group’s newest round of ads, which ran “in eight New Hampshire papers” on Friday and will go “national” today, they dub a new name for “guaranteed, publicly-funded health care for all Americans”: CheneyCare.

The ad “asks readers to go to CheneyCare.org and sign a petition in support of CheneyCare for all Americans”:

cheneycare.jpg

Cheney’s office “did not respond to a request for comment” by the Washington Examiner, but in December, when the original ads ran, Cheney spokesperson Megan Mitchell said that “something this outrageous does not warrant a response.”

As ThinkProgress noted at the time, what is actually outrageous is the fact that there are roughly 47 million people in America without health insurance, including 3.2 million children, but President Bush twice vetoed legislation that would have expanded coverage to 4 million more children.

While it is certainly good that Vice President Cheney was able get the medical attention he needed, the groups’ ad is right. Americans do deserve “CheneyCare for all.”



69 Responses to “New Health Care Ad: ‘Every American Deserves CheneyCare’”

  1. alphainfinityomega says:

    You know Cheney has good care if it keeps his evil heart beating.

    ∞


  2. Frosty Cupcake says:

    “While it is certainly good that Vice President Cheney was able get the medical attention he needed”

    Is it, in fact, “good”?

    Ah, TP, you are so much kinder than I am.


  3. NoOneYouKnow says:

    I don’t suppose anyone asked the mouthpiece what exactly was so outrageous about the ad?


  4. LividLib says:

    “If he were anyone else, he’d probably be dead by now” due to his long history of health problems, claimed the ad.”

    on second thought, i am opposed to a single-payer healthcare bill!
    ;)


  5. Zimzone says:

    1 in 6 Americans do not have or cannot afford health coverage.

    1 in 6.

    Shame on us. Shame on our government. Shame on our leadership.

    WWWDo?


  6. RUCerious says:

    Single
    Payer
    Health
    Care
    System.


  7. RUCerious says:

    Would they also advocate a
    Burn in Hell
    For All Eternity
    plan for neocon criminals?


  8. Jay Randal says:

    Cheney and Bush both believe as members of the elite that full healthcare is a right for them and not the common people. Many members of Congress believe the same.


  9. LividLib says:

    “neocon criminals”?
    isn’t that redundant?

    should be.


  10. Guido OBGYN Lover says:

    The Republicans, headed by Cheney, forget they are the people.
    We need something more efficient than elections to knock these elitists off their pedestals.

    Double standards are SO pre-American Revolutionary.


  11. Jay Randal says:

    Members of Congress pay a few dollars a month for unlimited healthcare. They do not have to co-pay for anything, nor have a lifetime limit on care, nor are they denied any medical procedures. They are clueless about the care that average Americans receive from insurance or HMO providers.


  12. americangoy says:

    Look man – that’s commie pinko lib talk.

    I mean affordable healthcare for all citizens?

    What’s next – you want to care for our war veterans so they don’t become homeless bums, to the tune of 3 in 4 homeless are veterans?


  13. Zooey says:

    Outrageous? What is outrageous about everyone having the same healthcare as Darth?

    I want Cheney Care!*

    *As long as it doesn’t make me evil, or want to bite the heads off innocent puppies.


  14. Jay Randal says:

    Americans will never have good medical care services till the for-profit heath insurance companies are removed from the system. They make money by denying care to those who need it the most.


  15. shoeless says:

    Damn subversives! What do they know about health care! They should shut up and let the real experts at the insurance companies make our health care decisions for us!


  16. Jay Randal says:

    Would be interesting to see how much money is spent yearly to keep Cheney’s wicked heart beating. He keeps a full medical team with him at all times, so it is costing taxpayers millions of dollars yearly.


  17. Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre says:

    This would seem to be an unfortunate turn-of-phrase. We already have our democracy under “Cheney-care,” and it has been dead in the water for the last eight years…


  18. shoeless says:

    Next time Cheney goes in to have the bearings packed on his heart, the nurses should refuse to empty his bedpan.


  19. Kay says:

    The Darth Cheney healthcare motto : just go to the emergency room!


  20. RUCerious says:

    I’m on an interesting path with my health care. After lung cancer surgery last March, my six month CT scan in October came back clean.
    But, I have developed several nasty symptoms, including a persistent cough, and if I want another CT scan before April, it’ll cost be $3,500 out of pocket. Chest Xray I did get was inconclusive.

    Ain’t for profit insurance great!


  21. robbez_92107 says:

    Isn’t CheneyCare ITSELF an oxymoron? CheneyMaintenance?


  22. RUCerious says:

    “cost me”, no I don’t hab a cowd…


  23. Zooey says:

    Ain’t for profit insurance great!
    Comment by RUCerious — January 7, 2008 @ 12:55 pm

    So you’re supposed to hope it’s just a couch and nothing else until April? F_ckers!


  24. Red Pill says:

    Now that is beautiful. It’s long past time to highlight the fact that elected opponents of public health care are all, in fact, beneficiaries of the same.

    And a related question: if taxpayers weren’t asked to sacrifice some of their income to fund full health coverage for our elected representatives, would they be able to afford their own premiums?


  25. Puppyjive says:

    I’ve been on the front lines battling hmo’s over pregnancy discrimination and lack of birth control coverage. I am consistently pushing for universal health coverage and seem to get the same typical responses from my few friends that are conservative. They all claim that they won’t be able to go to their doctor of choice. And I repeat to them over and over again. Our hmo’s dictate which doctors we can and cannot see. If you don’t go to someone in your network, you will pay a price. Most people, who I have found to oppose universal coverage are those of local, state, and federal workers. They get tax funded health benefits with small copays and very little if any, deductibles. I relative of mine, who is afforded health benefits through his spouse’s state employment said that they do not want universal coverage because their doctor friend would get less money. If we forced doctors to take all patients, regardless of their insurance status, maybe they too would endorse univeral healthcare. If we can’t convince government workers to change their ideals about health benefits, then I think we, as taxpayers, should force our government to lower their benefits down to the reality level. My husband had his appendics removed, and we had to take $3,000.00 out of our savings account to help pay for what the insurance didn’t. Someone I know who inherited close to a million dollars also had her appendics removed. She told the hospital that she did not have health insurance. Her recent inheritance allowed her to quit her job. The hospital forgave her bill. So I will continue to talk to people about the importance of universal coverage. We are all only one illness away from losing our jobs, losing our healthcare, and losing our homes.


  26. able as says:

    yes, yes, yes, but, just like Darth, we want full coverage, WITHOUT the insurance companies in any way involved!! On the other hand, Darth has his own Cardiologist, C-T surgeon, OR. and OR Team, post op. nurses; maybe we haven’t a snowballs chance of getting that. But the care, even without the frills would be almost what one has in France, Germany, Switzerland, and Austria, without the waiting lists. Nah, use the money wisely: start another war.
    able as


  27. missmolly says:

    Cheney and Bush both believe as members of the elite that full healthcare is a right for them and not the common people. Many members of Congress believe the same.

    Comment by Jay Randal — January 7, 2008 @ 12:33 pm

    But wouldn’t it be refreshing if any of them had the guts to say that publicly? Either insist on paying the same any citizen does for health care insurance, call for health insurance for all, or admit that yes we ARE better than the rest of you and let the political chips fall where they may.

    So far, the only person I can recall extolling the virtues of his taxpayer-funded healthcare is Bill Clinton. After he had his bypass surgery, he praised the healthcare he got at taxpayer expense and claimed that this care should be available to all Americans.


  28. missmolly says:

    That’s the beauty of America. Anybody can get the highest of health care if you work hard enough.

    Comment by Frank M — January 7, 2008 @ 1:00 pm

    Um…how do you work hard if you’re too sick to work?


  29. gummitch says:

    That’s the beauty of America. Anybody can get the highest of health care if you work hard enough.

    Comment by Frank M — January 7, 2008 @ 1:00 pm

    And there we have it, the contempt of fascists for working people. They’re not working hard enough at their jobs or they’d have health insurance, regardless of the fact that fewer and fewer employers are offering insurance, because prices have skyrocketed, which means people without insurance can’t afford health care.

    Why do fascists hate Americans?


  30. Zooey says:

    So you’re supposed to hope it’s just a couch and nothing else until April? F_ckers!
    Comment by Zooey — January 7, 2008 @ 12:58 pm

    DO OVER!!

    So you’re supposed to hope it’s just a COUGH and nothing else until April? F_ckers!

    If you swallowed a couch, no wonder you have a cough…


  31. JMOHR says:

    You must understand the conservative/Republican position on this matter.

    1. The system is designed to reallocate resources to those who are already hold the money. Thus the health care system must be fragmented to such an extent that the individual will have no ability to bargain with or gain advantage in the system. Thus, every citizen must be required (as a mandate by the government) to obtain health insurance meeting a certain minimum but totally inadequate level of care. Thus the idividual will be in the weakest position to either bargain with the insurance companies for coverage or fight with them over coverage issues.

    2. Corporate interests will increasingly drop policies except for their elite officers. The good old boy system will provide them with fairly good coverage at a slightly higher price paid by the company and not the CEO and other highly placed officers.

    3. It always the responsibility of the individual to adjust to any situation, no matter how unfair or unjust. Thus, it will always be the individual’s fault that they can not pay for their housing, food, transportation and health care. It is their part for not being wealthy enough to cover it all. They are to be morally condemned as the filth that the conservative elite believe them to be should the individual makes the wrong guess on which expense can be skimped.

    The main stream media is in the system. It aids and abets this system in order to receive its just rewards. The vast majority of the electorate are simply uneducated as to the real problems of the health care system. They have been brainwashed by the MSM to believe the usual sound bite wisdom of their masters: Universal Health Care is bad, it will raise your taxes and such systems have failed in all other countries. The failure of the media controlled by the corpocracy to do more than mouth the corporate/conservative line stands as one reason to limit the concentration of media ownerhip.


  32. Leftside Annie says:

    Oh, those peasants are just revolting!!

    Good health care is not for the rabble – only for their masters. Let them eat cake.

    /snark off


  33. JMOHR says:

    Ignore Frank M. He is not deserving of a response.


  34. zathrus says:

    “something this outrageous doesn’t warrant a response”…

    I believe that is what is called a RESPONSE :-)


  35. Leftside Annie says:

    25 – Frank: you ought to be banned from this site for STUPIDITY alone.

    Good grief.


  36. Zooey says:

    You get the “CheneyCare” if you can pay for it.

    That’s the beauty of America. Anybody can get the highest of health care if you work hard enough.

    Comment by Frank M — January 7, 2008 @ 1:00 pm

    You sick f_ck. Cheney’s not paying for it — WE ARE.

    I would wager I’ve paid more for health insurance over the last 15 years than Cheney has paid in his lifetime, and I’ve NEVER had “Cheney Care.”

    I would wish you ill, but that would make me just like you.


  37. Zooey says:

    You convince a bunch of dumbass rednecks to vote you into public office so they can pay for it.

    Comment by shoeless — January 7, 2008 @ 1:11 pm

    Nail on head, shoeless.


  38. ES says:

    that’s more like feigned outrage. I love how when people make valid claims against them the bushies always say that it doesn’t warrant a response. Doesn’t warrant a response, or you would just rather not give one?


  39. gummitch says:

    #34: Oh, the sickening smell of class envy and the “oh, why isn’t someone else paying for my care?” lament. How about you climb the corporate ladder and concentrate on making some money instead of whining and feeling sorry for yourselves?

    Comment by Frank M — January 7, 2008 @ 1:13 pm

    Idiot. Cheney wasn’t using corporate health care, but government health care. Try to pay attention before spouting your stupid fascist slogans.


  40. RUCerious says:

    Zooey, that was a cinnamon couch, and it was delicious!


  41. Guido OBGYN Lover says:

    Insurance companies and Doctors are attempting to collect money outside of the insurance system through multiple billing and claiming that things like

    anesthesia

    are “out of network”.

    My dad’s heart bypass surgery had 2/3 billed as “misc”.

    There’s a special place in hell for insurance providers and their corporate polician backers.


  42. Zooey says:

    Zooey, that was a cinnamon couch, and it was delicious!
    Comment by RUCerious — January 7, 2008 @ 1:18 pm

    I did a “do-over.” *sniff*

    :-D


  43. RUCerious says:

    But seriously, yes. I have an albuterol inhaler to treat the symptoms of the cough, but will get to wait till April to see whether the cancer has returned. If it has, by that time, my chances for treatment will be minimal.


  44. RUCerious says:

    I know, I saw the do-over but couldn’t resist!!


  45. RUCerious says:

    shoeless, and these are the chain smoking, quart and a half a day low lifes to boot.


  46. Zooey says:

    I know, I saw the do-over but couldn’t resist!!
    Comment by RUCerious — January 7, 2008 @ 1:19 pm

    Truthfully, I would expect no less from a fellow Critter. ;)


  47. Zooey says:

    There are trailer parks all across the country filled with dumbass redneck Republicans with no health insurance who fervently support leaders who deny them health care on the premise that they do not deserve it.

    It’s called self-loathing, and it is a major symptom of right-wing psychosis.

    Comment by shoeless — January 7, 2008 @ 1:19 pm

    A large number of them live right here in Idaho. They vote for the assh_le Repubs because of the abortion issue and gay rights — to hell with the fact that it actually costs them to vote that way.


  48. clb72 says:

    I’m just guessing that CheneyCare does not cover psychotherapy.


  49. shoeless says:

    A large number of them live right here in Idaho. They vote for the assh_le Repubs because of the abortion issue and gay rights — to hell with the fact that it actually costs them to vote that way.

    Comment by Zooey

    And it’s up to us dern libruls to help them. It’s not easy to help people who hate you for your efforts, and are so stupid they join with their oppressors to fight you every step of the way. But, we keep trying for the good of us all.


  50. missmolly says:

    Oh, the sickening smell of class envy and the “oh, why isn’t someone else paying for my care?” lament. How about you climb the corporate ladder and concentrate on making some money instead of whining and feeling sorry for yourselves?

    Comment by Frank M — January 7, 2008 @ 1:13 pm

    I don’t believe you have answered the question regarding people who are unable to “climb the corporate ladder” for one reason or another.

    For that matter, there aren’t enough corporate ladders for everyone to climb.

    A few years ago, someone wrote a letter to the editor in my local paper claiming that there really is no health care crisis — that all people had to do to get good health insurance was to get a job with an employer who offered it. This is logic that I’m sure you can identify with, since your posts kind of fall along the same line.

    Let’s look at some problems associated with that logic:

    1) There aren’t enough jobs with employer-paid health insurance to go around (this is why McDonald’s is able to hire people, you know). Furthermore, employers are having to cut back their health insurance benefits to their employees or eliminate it altogether because of skyrocketing costs.

    2) Even if you are lucky enough to work for an employer who offers health insurance, your out of pocket costs for premiums can still be well out of your affordability range. Employers often pay a part of insurance costs, with the employee picking up the rest. Many employers don’t pay ANYTHING toward premiums — they “offer” the insurance to the employee at the employee’s cost so the employee can benefit from lower group rates.

    3) If you are dependent upon your employer for your health insurance, you’re screwed if you lose your job. Oh yes — you can continue your health insurance through COBRA at your expense, but when you have to pay it all yourself, how can you afford it if you don’t have a paycheck?

    4) If you have any kind of pre-existing condition when you get your job, often your employer-provided insurance will specifically not cover it. Which means that if you are diabetic, have a heart murmur, or high blood pressure, you won’t get any financial help for the type of health care you are likely to need the most.

    5) And let’s not forget the people who are too disabled to work. Or are homemakers dependent upon a working spouse whose spouse has died or split. And countless other legitimate scenarios where people don’t have a paying job with insurance.

    There are a whole lot of people out there who aren’t able to “work hard” or “climb the corporate ladder” as you feel everyone should do. What do you propose to do about them? Just let them get sick and die? Or get sick enough to go to an emergency room and then file bankruptcy when the bill comes? Taxpayers WILL pay for the uninsured eventually. It’s cheaper in the long run to pay to keep people healthy than it is to pay when they get sick through neglect.


  51. NoOneYouKnow says:

    According to Frank M., all you need to do to get limitless health care is to “climb the corporate ladder.”
    Really, Frank? Is there room for everyone on the corporate ladder? Who holds the ladder if everyone is on it? If someone has to steady or even, god forbid, build a ladder, why don’t they get health care?
    And why is it class envy when the poor want what the rich have taken, but not when the rich steal from the poor in the first place?


  52. sacopenapa says:

    “If he were anyone else, he’d probably be dead by now”

    PITTY IT DIN’T HAPPEN!!!!


  53. 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda says:

    Kucinich. Kucinich. Kucinich. How can there be 58+ posts on single-payer not-for-profit healthcare and no one says Kucinich?

    AARP refused to allow Kucinich to participate in their Democrat sponsored debate because they take tens of billions of $$$ from health insurance companies.

    Same with the Iowa and New Hampshire debates.

    Most Americans DON’T KNOW about single payer. They’ve NEVER heard of it. They’re being denied their right to hear from all the candidates. It’s beyond OUTRAGEOUS.

    Lastly, helping insurance companies sell policies is NOT a health insurance plan. It’s Corporate Crony Capitalism. You know who you are Hillary, Barack and John.


  54. Zooey says:

    And it’s up to us dern libruls to help them. It’s not easy to help people who hate you for your efforts, and are so stupid they join with their oppressors to fight you every step of the way. But, we keep trying for the good of us all.

    Comment by shoeless — January 7, 2008 @ 1:36 pm

    You’re right, Shoeless. We help them anyway, that’s what makes us human.


  55. Leftside Annie says:

    Eh. According to the Frank M.’s of the world, all those lazy, shiftless uninsured poor people ought to just go ahead and die – and decrease the surplus population.

    Who needs ‘em stinkin’ up the place anyway, right, Frank?


  56. dogjudge says:

    Ah, the wonderful politicians on both sides of the aisle. The Republicans, who want smaller government especially.

    We’ve got a group of people who are arguably in the top echelon of income in the United States. Nothing wrong with that.

    So what do you suppose it would cost these folks to buy their own health insurance? Even Robert Byrd who could do it with Medicaid/Medicare supplemental insurance. $10,000.00 per year max. Of course it’s also tax deductible.

    So instead of volunteering to pay for it themselves, and make an example of the system, they simply take their health care and have people who are making slightly over the minimum wage contribute to the cost. Of course the person making minimum wage doesn’t have enough money to pay for their own health coverage.

    Fascinating.


  57. bilbobaggins says:

    That’s the beauty of America. Anybody can get the highest of health care if you work hard enough.
    Comment by Frank M

    Francine thinks there is beauty in people not being able to afford to pay for their own health insurance. Typical soulless Republiscum attitude.

    Health care should be a right for all Americans, not a privilege.


  58. Zooey says:

    I find it interesting and disturbing that this thread is receiving about half the attention as the Limbaugh thread….from the trolls or the “normals.”


  59. dogjudge says:

    #40 – Frank M.

    Hmm. Let’s see. I have my own company as a corporate recruiter.

    A few comments to address your shortsighted biased views.

    1 – I have a friend who’s wife was diagnosed with breast cancer about 10 years ago. The company that he worked for changed insurance carriers maybe four months after she was diagnosed. At that point, neither the old nor the new carriers would touch her for any amount of money. They had to go to the state of Illinois and go into a special pool. So you go along thinking that you have health insurance through your employer and all of a sudden find out that you are high and dry.
    2 – I don’t know what rock you’ve been living under for the last 10 or 20 years, but health insurance is becoming more and more of an issue for just about all companies out there these days. 20 years ago your employer paid 100 percent of the costs, and your individual costs were minimal. Copays, employee contributions, selected plans are all making health costs jump for all employees. Some companies are simply dropping any health care coverage at all. Want health care coverage, get it yourself.
    3 – Many people CANNOT change jobs because they can’t afford the change in health care, or the loss of health care. I see that more and more.
    4 – Paraphrasing, there used to be a saying along the lines of, “What’s good for GM is good for the USA.” Try looking at GM and the problems that they are having trying to absorb, pass on, health care costs.

    If you don’t see a problem with health care in the US, it’s simply because you’ve got your eyes closed. It CERTAINLY isn’t because people are working enough, or at a high enough paying job, to afford it.


  60. shoeless says:

    I find it interesting and disturbing that this thread is receiving about half the attention as the Limbaugh thread….from the trolls or the “normals.”

    Comment by Zooey

    Well, very few right-wingers will ever discuss our health care crisis in any case (watch a GOP debate and see if it comes up). And we normal people are having lots of fun at Rush’s (and his sychophant’s) expense.


  61. Citizen_of_Earth says:

    #34: Oh, the sickening smell of class envy and the “oh, why isn’t someone else paying for my care?” lament. How about you climb the corporate ladder and concentrate on making some money instead of whining and feeling sorry for yourself.
    Comment by Frank M — January 7, 2008 @ 1:13 pm

    I worked all my adult life and was stricken with ACHD seven years ago, which rendered me unable to work, needing life saving medical procedures and expensive medicine. I paid for my disability coverage and I am taking NOTHING from the taxpayers. The cost of my medicine just doubled and Rx coverage premiums increased as a result of this administration and the pharmaceutical companies. My recent open heart surgery cost taxpayers at least ten times what taxpayers in other industrialized nations would have paid.

    I would love to climb the corporate ladder once again, that may be impossible in the short term since I cannot climb a flight of stairs. However I am hopeful, I attempt to improve myself everyday, physically, financially and spiritually, even though physical and financial improvement is a little limiting when you are facing Sudden Cardiac Death. Therefore, you may wish to walk a mile in another persons shoe before you make such a callous statement, alternately you should pray daily that you will not be struck down by some genetic disease you have not been previously aware of.

    That said, I don’t feel sorry for myself, I still feel sorry for you, you are setting yourself up for a major awakening some day, did you ever hear of the law of cause and effect? Just remember, the law of cause and effect, like the law of gravity, cannot be ignored, nor will it go away. You will reap what you sow.


  62. Zooey says:

    Well said, Citizen of Earth.


  63. Doc Rock says:

    Health care in this country is almost as great a shame as the current Cheney-Bush administration.


  64. bilbobaggins says:

    Therefore, you may wish to walk a mile in another persons shoe before you make such a callous statement, alternately you should pray daily that you will not be struck down by some genetic disease you have not been previously aware of.
    That said, I don’t feel sorry for myself, I still feel sorry for you, you are setting yourself up for a major awakening some day, did you ever hear of the law of cause and effect? Just remember, the law of cause and effect, like the law of gravity, cannot be ignored, nor will it go away. You will reap what you sow.
    Comment by Citizen_of_Earth

    The Republiscums are NOT in the least bit interested in walking in someone else’s shoes. All they care about is themselves and those who are close to them. The rest of us can just fall off the face of the earth as far as they care. This is one reason why I don’t believe in God. I can’t believe that God would leave people like Frank M, golly and the other Republiscum trolls here on this earth without some kind of retribution for their sins. Unfortunately, I have seen many selfish-self centered “me-me-me” acquaintances skate through life while loving, caring, nurturing friends suffer from tragedy or illnesses. I just don’t understand it.


  65. texaslady says:

    A California business owner paid into same insurance co for themselves and employees for 30 years. He had a malignant spot removed and the insurance company dropped them. They now are in a high risk pool, where CA pays 1/3 and they pay 2/3rds. So, defend that decision those of you who think beggers are asking for health insurance.
    Medicare is not a free ride, min $93 a month from your SS check plus 150 + for supplemental to pay what Medicare doesn’t pay. $2916 annually for healthcare and you may still owe on top.


  66. texaslady says:

    People who believe they will always be self sufficient are either young or arrogant. And those are the ones that cry for help the loudest when they are in need.


  67. shoeless says:

    People who believe they will always be self sufficient are either young or arrogant.

    Comment by texaslady

    You forgot stupid.


  68. Citizen_of_Earth says:

    73. The Republiscums are NOT in the least bit interested in walking in someone else’s shoes. All they care about is themselves and those who are close to them. The rest of us can just fall off the face of the earth as far as they care. This is one reason why I don’t believe in God. I can’t believe that God would leave people like Frank M, golly and the other Republiscum trolls here on this earth without some kind of retribution for their sins. Unfortunately, I have seen many selfish-self centered “me-me-me” acquaintances skate through life while loving, caring, nurturing friends suffer from tragedy or illnesses. I just don’t understand it.

    Comment by bilbobaggins — January 7, 2008 @ 4:08 pm

    Sad to say, all true… but there is cause and effect and what goes around does indeed come around, that you can bank on. So, while, like you, I don’t understand it either, I am comforted by the fact that they will get theirs, either now or in the future. One thing for sure, they need to learn the concept of KARMA.


  69. RSpeed says:

    Thank God for California Nurses Association. They have the money and the integrity to stand up for what they believe. Go for it!
    Lets all support HR 676 the National Single Payer bill by Conyers.
    While your at it, if you are in California, write your Assemblyman and Senator to support SB 840 (Kuehl) the only real health reform initiative alive in our state



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