‘Thank God it’s off the front pages.’
By on Jan 8th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
‘Thank God it’s off the front pages.’
Sen. John McCain commenting on the political lens through which he views the Iraq war.
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Yeah, you don’t look so good in that flak jacket, Pork Chop…
January 8th, 2008 at 6:03 pmSorry McInsane~~
NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll conducted by the polling organizations of Peter Hart (D) and Bill McInturff (R). Dec. 14-17, 2007. N=1,008 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.1.
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“Let me list some issues that have been proposed for the federal government to address. Please tell me which one of these items you think should be the top priority for the federal government. [See below.]” If more than one: “Well, if you had to choose just one, which do you think should be the top priority?”
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January 8th, 2008 at 6:05 pmThe war in Iraq 18
Health care 18
Job creation and economic growth 14
Illegal immigration 12
Terrorism 9
Energy and the cost of gas 8
The environment and global warming 7
Foreign policy and Iran 5
All equally (vol.) 8
Unsure 1
He’s so out of touch his dick is numb.
January 8th, 2008 at 6:05 pmI was just watching the video, where the U.S. battleship was almost forced to open fire on the Iranian boats. I guarantee if the U.S. had blown those boats out of the water(which according to the video, they would have been justified in doing so) Think Progress would be posting headlines claiming Bush was trying to find a backdoor way to go to war with Iran.
January 8th, 2008 at 6:06 pmYeah, John, but they’re still dying …
January 8th, 2008 at 6:07 pm#4: Flagged for off-topic post
January 8th, 2008 at 6:08 pmI was just watching the video, where the U.S. battleship was almost forced to open fire on the Iranian boats. I guarantee if the U.S. had blown those boats out of the water(which according to the video, they would have been justified in doing so) Think Progress would be posting headlines claiming Bush was trying to find a backdoor way to go to war with Iran.
Comment by mandolin
If they didn’t, I would. Why do you hate America
January 8th, 2008 at 6:09 pmTo McCain: Are you sure it’s off the front page? It’s off the front page of the newspapers, but thanks to you and yours, those aren’t relevant anymore. I assure you it is on _our_ front pages, the men and women whose votes you need to see your dream of global domination come to fruition.
Better luck next time…
January 8th, 2008 at 6:09 pm#4: Flagged for off-topic post
Comment by Jeremy in Denver
Me too.
January 8th, 2008 at 6:10 pmJeremy, I have given up on thread moderation….it seems to be non-existant.
January 8th, 2008 at 6:11 pmComment by O. Bigfoot — January 8, 2008 @ 6:10 pm
Are you suggesting that it dep[ends upon the meaning of the word “it”?
January 8th, 2008 at 6:11 pmIf the boats had been blown out of the water, there would have been no evidence.
Come to think of it, there really isn’t any evidence they were actually Iranian boats to begin with… they look like a bunch of bass fishermen to me…
(Sorry, Jeremy…., you can flag me if you feel like it..)
January 8th, 2008 at 6:11 pmAnd hopefully McCain, you’ll be of the front pages before long. Waxing and waning just turns my stomach. If you only knew who you were you wouldn’t keep trying to be somebody the money guys want you to be.
January 8th, 2008 at 6:14 pmHe’s so out of touch his dick is numb.
Yup. He has been totally unable to service that trophy wife of his ever since the Iowa results came in. And she won’t be getting lucky any time soon.
January 8th, 2008 at 6:16 pmIt’s a literary device, Bigpoot….
Say, by the way, did you know your place in the boonies is on my district?
To bad they don’t have a bar in Quemado, we could have a beer and a few laughs.
C’mon down to Uncle Bills in Reserve, if it’s not to far out of your way next time you’re in the neighborhood.
Or maybe I’ll just stop by, let me know next time you’re down here.
:)
Remember, no looting the arc sites….
January 8th, 2008 at 6:17 pmJeremy, I have given up on thread moderation….it seems to be non-existant.
Comment by Fred — January 8, 2008 @ 6:11 pm
Don’t lose hope guys, the slag just got removed from the previous thread for his overt racism…
January 8th, 2008 at 6:18 pmThank goodness the Viet Nam war wasn’t off the front page while McCain was being tortured in the Hanoi Hilton.
January 8th, 2008 at 6:19 pmBecause McCain didn’t actually say that, of course.
It’s the context, baby!
Comment by O. Bigfoot
The brackets are used when the speaker is referring to a already defined subject. McCain said: “Thank God, “it” is off the front pages. The discussion was about Iraq, so McCain was saying “Thank God Iraq is off the front pages”, but he used the word “it” to describe Iraq.
January 8th, 2008 at 6:19 pmGrand times, weren’t they?” the candidate recalls ruefully. He cites four factors: his strong debate performances, the support of erstwhile-Democratic Sen. Joe Lieberman, his town hall meetings in New Hampshire and, particularly, the success of the surge in Iraq. “Thank God it’s off the front pages,” he says.
How the hell is that not referencing the surge and Iraq???
January 8th, 2008 at 6:19 pmOnce again U.Yeti is back to distract, derail and generally stink the place up.
January 8th, 2008 at 6:20 pmNo more replies to any of it’s deranged bullshit from me.
And why did TP feel the need to put brackets around [Iraq is] in John McCain’s quote?
Because McCain didn’t actually say that, of course.
It’s the context, baby!
Comment by O. Bigfoot — January 8, 2008 @ 6:10 pm
The entire exchange:
It helps if you actually read the “context” doesn’t it, O BigF_ckWit?
January 8th, 2008 at 6:24 pmWhat if McCain wins the Republicans nomination, and Iraq RETURNS to the front pages???
January 8th, 2008 at 6:27 pmMemo to HurriMcCain: Iraq may be off the front pages but it is still in the hearts and thoughts of the American people. Iowans demostrated that in their caucus last week.
January 8th, 2008 at 6:28 pmMcCain’s brain is blinking red lights now. He should go home and rest, but the roster of candidates for his lame repugnican party is so unattractive that he must remain in the game and go down again in ignominy. The party will not tolerate Huckleberry, nor Ron Paul; Romney is questionable and Giuliani is a loose cannon, so their only viable man is McCain, and he is making these stupid comments.
January 8th, 2008 at 6:28 pmHe put the Iraq war into a political barometer. He supports the war, the surge and George Bush! So, it is nice for him politically to not see that 3911 Americans have died in this stupid, illegal, immoral war that he endorses.
#4 Mandolin
Way to hold up that strawman…
then knock him down.
January 8th, 2008 at 6:31 pmOnce again U.Yeti is back to distract, derail and generally stink the place up.
No more replies to any of it’s deranged bullshit from me.
Comment by RUCerious
what is this persons new moniker?
January 8th, 2008 at 6:32 pmComment by mandolin
Do you really think we can afford another war? Be glad the Navy didnt fall for the hoax.
January 8th, 2008 at 6:34 pmwhat is this persons new moniker?
Comment by Fred — January 8, 2008 @ 6:32 pm
It’s O Bigfoot, Fred. :)
January 8th, 2008 at 6:34 pm“NO POTATOE FOR A PRESIDENT!!!”
Get back in the oven McCain Oven Fries!
January 8th, 2008 at 6:34 pmSorry McCain the Iraq war is not off the front page.
January 8th, 2008 at 6:34 pmNO POTATOE FOR A PRESIDENT!!!â€
Check with Dan Quayle about that spelling.:)
January 8th, 2008 at 6:38 pmwhat is this persons new moniker?
U.Yeti = O.Bigfoot…
January 8th, 2008 at 6:40 pmWonder why he ran off so quick, do you think maybe I hit a nerve?
January 8th, 2008 at 6:42 pmLook ahead,which neocon running will be the easiest to beat? Answer: ‘Any of them’.
January 8th, 2008 at 6:45 pmU.Yeti = O.Bigfoot…
January 8th, 2008 at 6:46 pmI suspected.
I was just watching the video, where the U.S. battleship was almost forced to open fire on the Iranian boats. -Mandolin
I watched the video and read the article, it says the boats are alleged to be Iranian and they are not military armed craft,
January 8th, 2008 at 6:47 pmHey mandolin, Since when is a Battleship ‘forced’ to open fire on a gunboat??
January 8th, 2008 at 6:47 pmThis kind of thinking leads us to war, but then that’s what GW wants. Don’t insult my intelligence by saying that your viewing of the videos gave reason for the Battleship to open fire. Can the crap.
able as
Elsewhere on the GOP campaign trail…
In his campaign of gymnastic flip-flops and mind-bending distortions, Mitt Romney topped himself Monday with his hilarious claim that he’s just “a guy from Detroit.” While Detroit and Romney’s suburban childhood home in tony Bloomfield Hills might be separated by just a few miles, his privileged life there was light years away from Motor City.
For the details, see:
“Latest Romney Laugher: ‘Just a Guy from Detroit.’”
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Meanwhile, on Sunday in Windham, New Hampshire, the former Baptist Minister and Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee returned to his roots and delivered a sermon on being “soldiers for Christ” in “God’s Army.”
For the details, see:
January 8th, 2008 at 6:47 pm“Huckabee Delivers Sermon on ‘God’s Army’ in NH.”
Wonder why he ran off so quick, do you think maybe I hit a nerve?
Comment by Nevar — January 8, 2008 @ 6:42 pm
O BigWhiny has a problem with facts.
January 8th, 2008 at 6:47 pmWonder why he ran off so quick, do you think maybe I hit a nerve?
Comment by Nevar
You followed a trend I have observed……most are tired of the bs.
January 8th, 2008 at 6:47 pmHey mandolin, Since when is a Battleship ‘forced’ to open fire on a gunboat??
This kind of thinking leads us to war, but then that’s what GW wants. Don’t insult my intelligence by saying that your viewing of the videos gave reason for the Battleship to open fire. Can the crap.
able as
Comment by able as — January 8, 2008 @ 6:47 pm
First of all, it isn’t a battleship. Do we even have any active battleships anymore?
At any rate, as someone else already noted, boats no larger than this damaged the USS Cole. A fast boat like that, packed with explosives, is capable of doing a lot of damage, even to an aircraft carrier or other vessel. I think we’re lucky that our Naval officers are as professional and well-trained as they are, and didn’t over-react. However, they’re also responsible for their ships and their crews and, at some point, would have to fire on potentially hostile boats that got too close. Let’s not be naive.
January 8th, 2008 at 7:02 pm“NO POTATOE FOR A PRESIDENT!!!â€
Check with Dan Quayle about that spelling.:)”
Haha. Hands up, made a mistake. Still, point still stands. He looks like a potato and has almost twice the personality.
January 8th, 2008 at 7:04 pmHowever, they’re also responsible for their ships and their crews and, at some point, would have to fire on potentially hostile boats that got too close. Let’s not be naive.
Comment by gummitch — January 8, 2008 @ 7:02 pm
and they have no business there. Let’s not be naive.
January 8th, 2008 at 7:07 pmRegarding the Strait of Hormuz incident – just put it in a reverse scenario.
January 8th, 2008 at 7:16 pmWould it be much different from us being “insurgents” against an invading army? The US patiots were insurgents were they not?
We are in their back yard (or waters). They may have been provoking us, testing us, teasing us, but we don’t give others any allowance for doing whatever we might also do in the same situation.
As to the Strait of Hormuz incident, would Iran not be well within its rights to actually attack US interests there or anywhere else? Afterall preemption has been established as a legitimate geopolitical tool. Can any of you argue that Iran does not have a reasonable argument that the US poses a potential threat to their nation and thus may require them to act premptively. They certainly can not be expected to wait for a mushroom cloud over Tehran before they act in defense of their nation.
January 8th, 2008 at 7:30 pmand they have no business there. Let’s not be naive.
Comment by Lefty Patriot — January 8, 2008 @ 7:07 pm
I was responding to a specific comment about small boats and naval ships. I am far from naive on the question of why those naval ships were in the region in the first place.
January 8th, 2008 at 8:30 pmMcCain’s strategy for the Middle East: Out of sight, out of mind…
January 8th, 2008 at 8:45 pmGo shop in a Baghdad market without 500 bodyguards
January 8th, 2008 at 8:46 pm“I was just watching the video, where the U.S. battleship was almost forced to open fire on the Iranian boats. I guarantee if the U.S. had blown those boats out of the water(which according to the video, they would have been justified in doing so) Think Progress would be posting headlines claiming Bush was trying to find a backdoor way to go to war with Iran.
Comment by mandolin — January 8, 2008 @ 6:06 pm”
Admit it, you just like using the word “backdoor”.
January 9th, 2008 at 1:35 amI guess he too is now claiming that God’s on his side, and is responsible for newspeople deciding that people being blown to bits in Iraq is no longer of interest?
January 9th, 2008 at 5:34 pm