Comments on: ‘10,000 years’ McCain wins anti-war GOP vote. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:26:35 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: judyinnm http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/comment-page-2/#comment-4223780 judyinnm Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:06:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/#comment-4223780 PS - the WAR has been over for years. We're now in an OCCUPATION, which McCain does not want to end.... ever. PS – the WAR has been over for years. We’re now in an OCCUPATION, which McCain does not want to end…. ever.

]]> By: bob84108 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/comment-page-2/#comment-4223487 bob84108 Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:26:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/#comment-4223487 "But among the 34 percent who said they disapproved of the war, McCain had a wide advantage over the GOP field — even over Texas Rep. Ron Paul, the sole advocate of a U.S. withdrawal in the Republican field." This happened because the 34% who disapproved of the war, were progressives and they voted for McCain so he will be the Republican candidate, because he will be easiest to defeat come this November “But among the 34 percent who said they disapproved of the war, McCain had a wide advantage over the GOP field — even over Texas Rep. Ron Paul, the sole advocate of a U.S. withdrawal in the Republican field.”

This happened because the 34% who disapproved of the war, were progressives and they voted for McCain so he will be the Republican candidate, because he will be easiest to defeat come this November

]]> By: billct http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/comment-page-2/#comment-4223483 billct Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:19:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/#comment-4223483 I've been thinking about the recent McCain endorsement by Sen. "holy joe" Lieberman. I wonder if there might have been a quid pro quo to this endorsement. Lieberman said that he gave the endorsement because Sen. McCain asked for it. I wonder if Lieberman asked for something in return, like maybe the Secretary of Defense position in a possible McCain administration. It would be deja vu all over again. That is McCain Lieberman as compared to Bush Rumsfeld. billct I’ve been thinking about the recent McCain endorsement by Sen. “holy joe” Lieberman. I wonder if there might have been a quid pro quo to this endorsement. Lieberman said that he gave the endorsement because Sen. McCain asked for it. I wonder if Lieberman asked for something in return, like maybe the Secretary of Defense position in a possible McCain administration. It would be deja vu all over again. That is McCain Lieberman as compared to Bush Rumsfeld.

billct

]]> By: john7108 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/comment-page-2/#comment-4223109 john7108 Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:50:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/#comment-4223109 A million years in Iraq? That would cost 100 quadrillion dollars, and that guy in New Orleans suing for that much wants all <em>that </em>money. A million years in Iraq? That would cost 100 quadrillion dollars, and that guy in New Orleans suing for that much wants all that money.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/comment-page-2/#comment-4222895 Lefty Patriot Thu, 10 Jan 2008 04:57:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/#comment-4222895 Those two commercials would finish him off. Nobody would ever vote for him after they saw his bizarre behavior. Comment by OxyCon — January 9, 2008 @ 7:25 pm well, he would get the 24% who have turned off their brains and patriotism. Those two commercials would finish him off. Nobody would ever vote for him after they saw his bizarre behavior.

Comment by OxyCon — January 9, 2008 @ 7:25 pm

well, he would get the 24% who have turned off their brains and patriotism.

]]> By: Ditch Mitch KY http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/comment-page-2/#comment-4222846 Ditch Mitch KY Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:23:32 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/#comment-4222846 If you're a Republican who opposes Bush's War in Iraq, and you look at your PITIFUL pack of candidates, you say, "OMG -- guess I'll vote for McCain." Newsflash to these GOP voters: Your man, Sen. McWar, says we should stay in Iraq 100 years -- no make that 10,000 -- no round it up to a million years. Don't you feel stupid voting for him? If you’re a Republican who opposes Bush’s War in Iraq, and you look at your PITIFUL pack of candidates, you say, “OMG — guess I’ll vote for McCain.”

Newsflash to these GOP voters: Your man, Sen. McWar, says we should stay in Iraq 100 years — no make that 10,000 — no round it up to a million years. Don’t you feel stupid voting for him?

]]> By: Raphae1 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/comment-page-2/#comment-4222745 Raphae1 Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:27:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/#comment-4222745 The only anti-war GOP candidate is Ron Paul. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXOkVTJWnI4 The only anti-war GOP candidate is Ron Paul.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXOkVTJWnI4

]]> By: OxyCon http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/comment-page-2/#comment-4222698 OxyCon Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:25:59 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/#comment-4222698 If I were running against McCain, I'd air just two different ads. The first one would be him singing "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" looped a few times. The second one would be of that McCain supporter who asked him "How do we beat the b*tch"? and him laughing and responding "That's a good question". I'd loop that one a few times too, just like those annoying "Head-on" commercials. Those two commercials would finish him off. Nobody would ever vote for him after they saw his bizarre behavior. If I were running against McCain, I’d air just two different ads.
The first one would be him singing “bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran” looped a few times.
The second one would be of that McCain supporter who asked him “How do we beat the b*tch”? and him laughing and responding “That’s a good question”. I’d loop that one a few times too, just like those annoying “Head-on” commercials.
Those two commercials would finish him off. Nobody would ever vote for him after they saw his bizarre behavior.

]]> By: Sgt Rock http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/comment-page-2/#comment-4222696 Sgt Rock Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:23:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/#comment-4222696 It makes little difference if people are voting more for Democrats than Republicans if the top three Democratic candidates refuse to commit to a full withdrawal of US troops from Iraq if they are elected. It makes little difference if people are voting more for Democrats than Republicans if the top three Democratic candidates refuse to commit to a full withdrawal of US troops from Iraq if they are elected.

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/comment-page-2/#comment-4222637 Gregor Samsa Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:27:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/#comment-4222637 At some point, someone should remind those Republican McCain supporters that 10,000 years is <i>longer</i> than the Earth has existed.... /sarcasm off At some point, someone should remind those Republican McCain supporters that 10,000 years is longer than the Earth has existed….

/sarcasm off

]]> By: judyinnm http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/comment-page-2/#comment-4222634 judyinnm Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:26:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/#comment-4222634 Yeah, but McCain says, and his constituents agree, that it's okay if the Iraqis are "fighting and dying with our support" for the next 10000 years - because we're not against the war, we're only against AMERICANS dying in it. That's mainstream Republican patriotism (imperialism) at its core. So, yeah, anti (Americans-dying-in-the) war Republicans would choose McCain. Yeah, but McCain says, and his constituents agree, that it’s okay if the Iraqis are “fighting and dying with our support” for the next 10000 years – because we’re not against the war, we’re only against AMERICANS dying in it.

That’s mainstream Republican patriotism (imperialism) at its core. So, yeah, anti (Americans-dying-in-the) war Republicans would choose McCain.

]]> By: Badger http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-4222631 Badger Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:24:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/#comment-4222631 Do you disagree that American’s are concerned about American casualties? Does it make sense to get Americans off the frontlines? Does it make sense for Iraqis to take over more and more of the responsibilities? None of this is contradicted by a Total US Pullout. No Casualties. No frontlines. No one but Iraqi's to be responsible. Do you disagree that American’s are concerned about American casualties? Does it make sense to get Americans off the frontlines? Does it make sense for Iraqis to take over more and more of the responsibilities?

None of this is contradicted by a Total US Pullout. No Casualties. No frontlines. No one but Iraqi’s to be responsible.

]]> By: gummitch http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-4222594 gummitch Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:59:13 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/#comment-4222594 <em>gummitch. which one of these McCain comments do you disagree with? And BTW, although it may not make sense that are soldiers are in Iraq, they are there. So, which statement do you disagree with? Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 9, 2008 @ 5:39 pm</em> Jesus, how many different ways do I need to write it for you? If we leave American troops in Iraq they will be in harm's way. The assumption that we can leave troops there because Americans won't care is wrong because they will never be safe because the IRAQIS don't want them there. It's therefore a ridiculous, illogical assumption. gummitch. which one of these McCain comments do you disagree with?

And BTW, although it may not make sense that are soldiers are in Iraq, they are there. So, which statement do you disagree with?

Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 9, 2008 @ 5:39 pm

Jesus, how many different ways do I need to write it for you?

If we leave American troops in Iraq they will be in harm’s way. The assumption that we can leave troops there because Americans won’t care is wrong because they will never be safe because the IRAQIS don’t want them there. It’s therefore a ridiculous, illogical assumption.

]]> By: Badger http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-4222576 Badger Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:48:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/#comment-4222576 Captain...I agree BUT.. Do you agree that Iraqi's are concerned about Iraqi casualties?? Where exactly ARE the frontlines in Iraq??? Should the Iraqi's take over the PERMANENT BASES that we are building over there??? For the record, I'm very glad that American Casualties are way down. I am FURIOUS that it took 5 years to realize how wrong Rumsfeld"s war strategy was. And the situation in Iraq could easily turn the "success of the surge" into the LULL of 2007. Captain…I agree BUT..

Do you agree that Iraqi’s are concerned about Iraqi casualties??

Where exactly ARE the frontlines in Iraq???

Should the Iraqi’s take over the PERMANENT BASES that we are building over there???

For the record, I’m very glad that American Casualties are way down. I am FURIOUS that it took 5 years to realize how wrong Rumsfeld”s war strategy was. And the situation in Iraq could easily turn the “success of the surge” into the LULL of 2007.

]]> By: Stupid Git http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-4222568 Stupid Git Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:43:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/#comment-4222568 <em>Do you disagree that American’s are concerned about American casualties? Does it make sense to get Americans off the frontlines? Does it make sense for Iraqis to take over more and more of the responsibilities?</em> I agree with all those things which is why getting US troops out of Iraq is the best policy. Do you disagree that American’s are concerned about American casualties? Does it make sense to get Americans off the frontlines? Does it make sense for Iraqis to take over more and more of the responsibilities?

I agree with all those things which is why getting US troops out of Iraq is the best policy.

]]> By: Stupid Git http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-4222564 Stupid Git Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:41:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/#comment-4222564 <em>Comment by Badger — January 9, 2008 @ 5:15 pm </em> Great insight. Comment by Badger — January 9, 2008 @ 5:15 pm

Great insight.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-4222558 Lefty Patriot Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:38:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/#comment-4222558 How come the trolls on this website are so obsessed with men? Captain MAN tastic MAN slagt Southern Fried MAN (finger licking good) Comment by Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver — January 9, 2008 @ 5:35 pm It's the wide stance that does it. and they're afraid if they don't announce it nobody will know. How come the trolls on this website are so obsessed with men?

Captain MAN tastic
MAN slagt
Southern Fried MAN (finger licking good)

Comment by Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver — January 9, 2008 @ 5:35 pm

It’s the wide stance that does it. and they’re afraid if they don’t announce it nobody will know.

]]> By: Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-4222553 Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:35:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/#comment-4222553 How come the trolls on this website are so obsessed with men? Captain MAN tastic MAN slagt Southern Fried MAN (finger licking good) How come the trolls on this website are so obsessed with men?

Captain MAN tastic
MAN slagt
Southern Fried MAN (finger licking good)

]]> By: Badger http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-4222505 Badger Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:15:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/#comment-4222505 Total Votes cast yesterday... For the record, two swing states had higher D than R voting, and in NH (where it's more clear) the 2nd place D beat the 1st place R by around 16K votes (104K to 88K, with 112K to Hillary Clinton). For all the angst about the winners and losers, the turnout for Democrats is a real story, Clinton...112,238 Obama...104,757 McCain...88,447 Romney...75,202 Edwards...48,666 Huckabee...26,760 Giuliani...20,383 Paul...18,245 Richardson...13,245 Total Votes cast yesterday…
For the record, two swing states had higher D than R voting, and in NH (where it’s more clear) the 2nd place D beat the 1st place R by around 16K votes (104K to 88K, with 112K to Hillary Clinton).

For all the angst about the winners and losers, the turnout for Democrats is a real story,

Clinton…112,238
Obama…104,757
McCain…88,447
Romney…75,202
Edwards…48,666
Huckabee…26,760
Giuliani…20,383
Paul…18,245
Richardson…13,245

]]> By: gummitch http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-4222503 gummitch Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:15:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/09/10000-years-mccain-wins-anti-war-gop-vote/#comment-4222503 <em>Do you disagree that American’s are concerned about American casualties? Does it make sense to get Americans off the frontlines? Does it make sense for Iraqis to take over more and more of the responsibilities? Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 9, 2008 @ 5:11 pm</em> It makes no sense for Americans to be there in the first place, at all. It makes all the sense in the world for Iraqis to be there in their own country, taking responsibility for their own security. Why is this so difficult for you? In case you haven't noticed, US troops in Korea and Germany are not being shot at and no one is diligently trying to blow them up. Because . . . they are not perceived as invaders. In Iraq, they are, and will be, regardless of whatever fantasy McCain has about parking them there for ten thousand years. Do you disagree that American’s are concerned about American casualties? Does it make sense to get Americans off the frontlines? Does it make sense for Iraqis to take over more and more of the responsibilities?

Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 9, 2008 @ 5:11 pm

It makes no sense for Americans to be there in the first place, at all. It makes all the sense in the world for Iraqis to be there in their own country, taking responsibility for their own security.

Why is this so difficult for you? In case you haven’t noticed, US troops in Korea and Germany are not being shot at and no one is diligently trying to blow them up. Because . . . they are not perceived as invaders. In Iraq, they are, and will be, regardless of whatever fantasy McCain has about parking them there for ten thousand years.

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