Comments on: Big Pharma Front Group Launches Anonymous Blog To Publish An ‘Enemies List’ http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:47:56 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: wmhogg http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4224928 wmhogg Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:27:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/#comment-4224928 If you actually visit their site, they are using commercial images which are undoubtedly *not* licensed for use by Disney. Maybe someone should tell Disney about this... If you actually visit their site, they are using commercial images which are undoubtedly *not* licensed for use by Disney.

Maybe someone should tell Disney about this…

]]> By: Fred http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4224161 Fred Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:02:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/#comment-4224161 What the hell? I swear, if this McTavish guy hadn’t outed himself, I’d suspect David Catania of having fronted the whole thing as a publicity stunt. Do these people actually think this site is going to help their cause? Comment by sammybaby Just shows how arrogant they are.....they know nothing will be done so they don't even have to worry about it. What the hell?

I swear, if this McTavish guy hadn’t outed himself, I’d suspect David Catania of having fronted the whole thing as a publicity stunt. Do these people actually think this site is going to help their cause?

Comment by sammybaby

Just shows how arrogant they are…..they know nothing will be done so they don’t even have to worry about it.

]]> By: Tom O http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4223873 Tom O Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:03:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/#comment-4223873 That quote by Greenspan is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever read. His quote was made prior to the Enron debacle, but there were plenty of crooked businessmen who were investigated by the Truman Committee during WWII. "It's a “capitalist” myth that businessmen, left to their own devices, wouldn't attempt to sell unsafe food and drugs, fraudulent securities, and shoddy buildings…it is obvious to anyone with any knowledge of history that there will always be businessmen who put their desire to make a quick buck over their reputation and the health and well-being of their customers." - Tom O'Brien, in a 2008 comment on the Thinkprogress website. That quote by Greenspan is quite possibly the stupidest thing I’ve ever read. His quote was made prior to the Enron debacle, but there were plenty of crooked businessmen who were investigated by the Truman Committee during WWII.

“It’s a “capitalist” myth that businessmen, left to their own devices, wouldn’t attempt to sell unsafe food and drugs, fraudulent securities, and shoddy buildings…it is obvious to anyone with any knowledge of history that there will always be businessmen who put their desire to make a quick buck over their reputation and the health and well-being of their customers.”

- Tom O’Brien, in a 2008 comment on the Thinkprogress website.

]]> By: slappy magoo http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4223808 slappy magoo Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:20:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/#comment-4223808 Isn’t it fascinating how they use the derogatory name which people have affixed to pharmaceutical companies (Big Pharma) as though it’s a good thing?? They’re so transparent in their fraud that it’s laughable. Comment by Veritas — January 10, 2008 @ 1:40 pm Heh, I thought the same thing. Kinda like when White Castle started referring to their own burgers as "Sliders" like it was a good thing. Isn’t it fascinating how they use the derogatory name which people have affixed to pharmaceutical companies (Big Pharma) as though it’s a good thing?? They’re so transparent in their fraud that it’s laughable.

Comment by Veritas — January 10, 2008 @ 1:40 pm

Heh, I thought the same thing. Kinda like when White Castle started referring to their own burgers as “Sliders” like it was a good thing.

]]> By: had enough http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4223653 had enough Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:01:56 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/#comment-4223653 #42 Comment by impeachcheneythenbush great post We have one huge sickly, over weight depressed population of folks... didn't have this in the old days when the food was pure and the true exercise was there. Do you suppose the FDA is not doing their job in properly over seeing the food products creating this overwhelming need for drugs? I do... on purpose....? I would bet many of the health problems would be solved if folks would quit shopping in the middle of the grocery stores where all the crap is and stayed on the outside areas where the produce is. #42 Comment by impeachcheneythenbush
great post
We have one huge sickly, over weight depressed population of folks… didn’t have this in the old days when the food was pure and the true exercise was there. Do you suppose the FDA is not doing their job in properly over seeing the food products creating this overwhelming need for drugs? I do… on purpose….?
I would bet many of the health problems would be solved if folks would quit shopping in the middle of the grocery stores where all the crap is and stayed on the outside areas where the produce is.

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4223598 katy Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:34:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/#comment-4223598 Yankeluh - i understand, and have been on the receiving end of, the physician's generous handout of sample drugs... but, it should be obvious why those samples are out there - to get the patient to USE that drug and hopefully need MORE... but not for free next time... legitimate drug pushers... Yankeluh – i understand, and have been on the receiving end of, the physician’s generous handout of sample drugs…

but, it should be obvious why those samples are out there -
to get the patient to USE that drug and hopefully need MORE…
but not for free next time…

legitimate drug pushers…

]]> By: Zimzone http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4223587 Zimzone Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:27:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/#comment-4223587 Take insurance carriers out of the prescription drug and health care system and prices will fall dramatically. Take insurance carriers out of the prescription drug and health care system and prices will fall dramatically.

]]> By: impeachcheneythenbush http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4223575 impeachcheneythenbush Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:18:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/#comment-4223575 I worked 15 years for one of the biggest companies in Big Pharma. I saw them work hand-in-glove to push the Medicare Part D law through (which benefits them hugely), saw them continue to push Vioxx, despite the KNOWN dangers, among other actions. One of the most egregious statements I ever heard came out of the mouth of a department manager when responding to the latest reports on sales of anti-cholesterol drugs: "Thank God for McDonalds and Burger King! As far as I'm concerned, healthcare should go single-payor and drug companies should be nationalized. I worked 15 years for one of the biggest companies in Big Pharma. I saw them work hand-in-glove to push the Medicare Part D law through (which benefits them hugely), saw them continue to push Vioxx, despite the KNOWN dangers, among other actions. One of the most egregious statements I ever heard came out of the mouth of a department manager when responding to the latest reports on sales of anti-cholesterol drugs: “Thank God for McDonalds and Burger King!

As far as I’m concerned, healthcare should go single-payor and drug companies should be nationalized.

]]> By: GooseEgg http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4223574 GooseEgg Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:16:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/#comment-4223574 wish Big Pharma would produce a cure for conservatism. Comment by Dr. Matt — January 10, 2008 @ 2:16 pm How about a drug to cure bloodlust & warmongering? That would be good. Comment by mary — January 10, 2008 @ 2:26 pm Mary/Dr. Matt, That drug is already out there, and best of all you can grow it yourself. Ask Rastaman to hook you up! wish Big Pharma would produce a cure for conservatism.

Comment by Dr. Matt — January 10, 2008 @ 2:16 pm

How about a drug to cure bloodlust & warmongering? That would be good.

Comment by mary — January 10, 2008 @ 2:26 pm

Mary/Dr. Matt,
That drug is already out there, and best of all you can grow it yourself. Ask Rastaman to hook you up!

]]> By: ebbAndflow http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4223568 ebbAndflow Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:14:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/#comment-4223568 Big Pharma need only look in the mirror for its 'enemies list'! With apologizes and thanks to Jefferson Starship: "When logic and proportion Have fallen sloppy dead And the White Knight is talking backwards And the Red Queen's "off with her head!" Remember what the dormouse said: "Feed your head..." Big Pharma need only look in the mirror for its ‘enemies list’!
With apologizes and thanks to Jefferson Starship:
“When logic and proportion
Have fallen sloppy dead
And the White Knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen’s “off with her head!”
Remember what the dormouse said:
“Feed your head…”

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4223567 katy Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:12:00 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/#comment-4223567 i think it IS fantastic that so many "big, strong men" have been so influenced by a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayn_Rand" rel="nofollow">WOMAN</a>... heh... i think it IS fantastic that so many “big, strong men” have been
so influenced by a WOMAN… heh…

]]> By: Yankeluh http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4223558 Yankeluh Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:07:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/#comment-4223558 I am proud to say that my physician gives out tons of samples to people who cannot afford to purchase them or are having trouble making ends meet. That is one way to make the drug companies help the poor. I am proud to say that my physician gives out tons of samples to people who cannot afford to purchase them or are having trouble making ends meet. That is one way to make the drug companies help the poor.

]]> By: Doc Rock http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4223546 Doc Rock Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:58:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/#comment-4223546 Fascism & Big Business go hand-in-hand http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0930-25.htm Fascism & Big Business go hand-in-hand

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0930-25.htm

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4223538 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:52:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/#comment-4223538 And, while we're on the subject of Alan Greenspan and his Ayn Rand claptrap, let me point out that the "esteemed political reporter" Andrea Mitchell, who is supposed to be part of a "liberal media" establishment, is married to the old fool. And, while we’re on the subject of Alan Greenspan and his Ayn Rand claptrap, let me point out that the “esteemed political reporter” Andrea Mitchell, who is supposed to be part of a “liberal media” establishment, is married to the old fool.

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4223534 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:51:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/#comment-4223534 Right, that's an Ayn Rand Objectivist for you. He's sure of something which has never been demonstrated in practice or in history. It's really more of a religion than a philosophy. Right, that’s an Ayn Rand Objectivist for you. He’s sure of something which has never been demonstrated in practice or in history. It’s really more of a religion than a philosophy.

]]> By: 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4223526 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:46:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/#comment-4223526 Its a “collectivist” myth that businessmen, left to their own devices, “would attempt to sell unsafe food and drugs, fraudulent securities, and shoddy buildings....it is in the self-interest of every businessman to have a reputation for honest dealings and a quality product.” <strong>- Alan Greenspan, in a 1963 essay for deregulation guru Ayn Rand's newsletter</strong> Its a “collectivist” myth that businessmen, left to their own devices, “would attempt to sell unsafe food and drugs, fraudulent securities, and shoddy buildings….it is in the self-interest of every businessman to have a reputation for honest dealings and a quality product.”

- Alan Greenspan, in a 1963 essay for deregulation guru Ayn Rand’s newsletter

]]> By: Loonie http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4223524 Loonie Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:46:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/#comment-4223524 A Big Phuckoff to Big Pharma. A Big Phuckoff to Big Pharma.

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4223521 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:45:42 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/#comment-4223521 Regarding the above post about big Pharma contributing for the "Partnership for a Drug Free America", big Pharma enjoys a $20 billion a year business in addictive, daily-dosage, psycoactive pills for anxiety and depression. Regarding the above post about big Pharma contributing for the “Partnership for a Drug Free America”, big Pharma enjoys a $20 billion a year business in addictive, daily-dosage, psycoactive pills for anxiety and depression.

]]> By: 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4223520 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:45:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/#comment-4223520 Ironic. Ayn Rand is the man Alan Greenspan worshipped. Ayn Rand is the guru for business deregulation and consolidation. Following Ayn Rand's extremist ideology is what led Alan Greenspan to turn a blind eye to the practices which led to the sub-prime crisis. Ironic. Ayn Rand is the man Alan Greenspan worshipped. Ayn Rand is the guru for business deregulation and consolidation.

Following Ayn Rand’s extremist ideology is what led Alan Greenspan to turn a blind eye to the practices which led to the sub-prime crisis.

]]> By: Buckie Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4223514 Buckie Boy Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:42:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/10/big-pharma-enemies-list/#comment-4223514 Sounds more like David Cantana is Public Hero #1. Big Pharma companies are praying on an under informed and under educated public. I'm sure everyone here has seen the constant bombardment of their TV commercials that offer any and everything to cure any sort of condition that the public thinks they might have. Don't take care of the condition thru prevention, take a pill that will give you constipation, head aches, bleeding from the anus, mussel cramps, itchy eyes, etc. etc. Buck Fush Sounds more like David Cantana is Public Hero #1.

Big Pharma companies are praying on an under informed and under educated public. I’m sure everyone here has seen the constant bombardment of their TV commercials that offer any and everything to cure any sort of condition that the public thinks they might have.

Don’t take care of the condition thru prevention, take a pill that will give you constipation, head aches, bleeding from the anus, mussel cramps, itchy eyes, etc. etc.

Buck Fush

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