White House Predicts ‘Remarkable Shift’: Bush Will Leave Office With 45 Percent Approval
White House Predicts ‘Remarkable Shift’: Bush Will Leave Office With 45 Percent Approval
Bush’s job approval numbers may be mired in the low 30s right now, but U.S. News’ Washington Whispers reports that Bush aides predict he’ll be at 45 percent when he leaves office:
He’s a poll cellar-dweller whom even GOP presidential candidates sneer at, but George W. Bush and some congressional backers see happy days for the prez this year. His fans have dubbed it his “legacy year,” when they hope to lock in his achievements on the domestic front.
Among the items Bush’s GOP congressional allies want to work on this month: continuing his tax cuts and extending the controversial No Child Left Behind Act. As for the war, they say, the news has been good, and Bushies believe that their guy will eventually get credit for opening the war on terrorism. But more immediately, they are predicting a remarkable poll shift to about 45 percent favorable by the time he leaves office next year.
While the White House sees “happy days” here again for Bush’s “legacy year,” the American public appears quite ready for his presidency to be over. In the past year, the public’s disapproval of Bush has been extremely stable:
The Republican presidential candidates are hesitant to even mention Bush’s name. As the Washington Post recently wrote, “All sides agree the electorate at least says it is in no mood for a candidate that embodies the status quo, or even incremental movement.”
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The only remarkable shift will be the enormous sigh of relief that his term has expired, or he has, on or before Jan 09.
January 10th, 2008 at 7:19 pmOr the Bush Aide is actually Billy Kristol, whose been wrong about everything anyhoo.
January 10th, 2008 at 7:19 pm45%? That's a bit high. With the high rate of scandals and huge dark cloud under the Bush Administration, Bush's approval ratings when he leaves office will be sink lower than Baskins Robbins ice cream.
January 10th, 2008 at 7:21 pmSorry to bogart the thread, but here's the latest two gallup polls
Poll---------------app/dis/duh/ dif
January 10th, 2008 at 7:22 pmGallup 1/4-6/08 32 /64 /4 /-32
Gallup 12/6-9/07 37 /57 /5 /-20
George will leave with a 75% approval rating. Yes, 75% of the American public will approve of his leaving the White House.
January 10th, 2008 at 7:22 pmthat should read 4.5%
January 10th, 2008 at 7:23 pm"White House Predicts ‘Remarkable Shift’: Bush Will Leave Office With 45 Percent Approval"
Wow, they are redefining "delusional"...
January 10th, 2008 at 7:23 pmI guess this is about his Palestinian peace deal?
January 10th, 2008 at 7:24 pmThey're hoping for 45 percent favorable? Talk about the soft bigotry of low expectations.
January 10th, 2008 at 7:26 pmMy goodness.
At least he has something to look forward too.
Fortunately for all of us, what we have to look forward to is a REAL CRAPPY ECONOMY, since the bush economy was built upon smoke, mirrors and the housing bubble.
Thanks bush and greenspan!
January 10th, 2008 at 7:27 pmWhoever the Democratic president is, he or she better be ready for the sh*tstorm in the very near future.
I'm sure Zogby or Fox could find a way to get that poll for him.
January 10th, 2008 at 7:27 pmJust in passing, how many Israeli- Palestinian peace deals brokered by an American president have there been now?
January 10th, 2008 at 7:29 pmSeriously, I've lost count....
(heavy, dark, pendulous, and dripping sarcasm)
Hmmm? I wonder how it feels to have monkeys fly out of ones butt?
January 10th, 2008 at 7:30 pmThey do create their own reality. Problem is - it is just their reality, not ours.
January 10th, 2008 at 7:30 pmThe pollsters and pundits will misinterpret the cheering in the street and the celebrations of Bush's leaving office as indicative of a rise in his popularity.
January 10th, 2008 at 7:31 pmComment by Xisithrus — January 10, 2008 @ 7:24 pm
I guess this is about his Palestinian peace deal?
I would agree. Today he said that he expects a signed agreement before he leaves office. Funny how those two things add up to 45%.
January 10th, 2008 at 7:31 pmMuch work remains to be done before the Bush Administration can announce their total failure to make any progress.
January 10th, 2008 at 7:33 pmLOLOLOLOL. ROTFLMAO.
January 10th, 2008 at 7:33 pm#15 Comment by Marie — January 10, 2008 @ 7:31 pm
The pollsters and pundits will misinterpret the cheering in the street and the celebrations of Bush’s leaving office as indicative of a rise in his popularity.
LOL! Right on the money, Marie!
January 10th, 2008 at 7:34 pmTitle correction:
‘Remarkable Shit’: Bush Will Leave Office With 45 Percent Approval
January 10th, 2008 at 7:35 pmWell.....that would be remarkable.
Actually, astounding is the word I'm looking for.
January 10th, 2008 at 7:37 pm..when the best you can hope for just less than half the nation hating you..
When he's done he can go back to his colouring book. In between the lines George.
January 10th, 2008 at 7:43 pmhttp://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2008/01/hopper-incident.html
Hopper incident reread
January 10th, 2008 at 7:47 pmMore LIke:
January 10th, 2008 at 7:54 pmOf those people who voted for Bush in both elections, 45% would approve of Bush's presidency. This would give him about a 23% overall electorate approval rating. This group is subdivided into three groups:
1) Fix News viewers with a broken remote control.
2) The sub-group of Christians who watch Fix News who don't listen to their pastors.
3) The Fix News viewers who believe 9/11 was perpetrated by Iraq and aligned with gay, illegal immigrant abortion activists.
But this one's different because it has the "Midas Touch" of G.W. Bush!
January 10th, 2008 at 7:54 pmOops - was referring to:
January 10th, 2008 at 7:55 pmComment by Nevar — January 10, 2008 @ 7:29 pm
January 10th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
The White House ought to have a gander at this before making such pronouncements...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904/
January 10th, 2008 at 8:10 pmfyi:
WEAR ORANGE January 11
and protest the shame that is Guantánamo Bay.
http://www.aclu.org/closegitmo
can't hurt...
January 10th, 2008 at 8:12 pmI want to know which talking heads are going to step up in front of the media and the public, and begin the steps needed to polish the Bush Legacy?? One of the Republican presidential contenders perhaps? One of the Republicans in either the Senate or the House who is running for re-election. Rush Limbaugh, Billy Crystal, Ann Coulter, Dick Cheney, Daddy Bush, Brother Bush, or tongue twisted Bush himself??? Let´s remember the ridicule that Carl Rove faced when he suggested that the Democrats caused the invasion of Iraq!!!!! Let´s get real the Neo-con message is just as tarnished as the voices who have supported and will only face justified ridicule in the press (hopefully, they can still be bought off) when the try to stir up support
January 10th, 2008 at 8:14 pmHe might get a sympathy bump in the polls for being such a loser.
January 10th, 2008 at 8:15 pmWhat'd he do? Make a deal with Israel to bomb Iran if they make an appearance of peace with Palestineans? He takes credit for bringing peace to the ME and sees his numbers go up before he leaves? And, that is supposed to cancel out ALL the crap he has pulled and damage he has wrought over the last 7 years?
January 10th, 2008 at 8:17 pmI DON'T THINK SO!!
ummm....i don't know what planet Bush's minions are from.....
but 45% is a failing grade!!
January 10th, 2008 at 8:30 pmHis "legacy year," huh? News flash, Shrub: one-for-eight doesn't keep you in the big leagues of either baseball or history!
Besides, I'm guessing he'll choke. Or do coke. I always confuse those...
January 10th, 2008 at 8:31 pmthey're HAPPY with a PROJECTED bump to ONLY 45 percent?
I'd gleefully call 'em losers, except that with Bush in office, we're all losing.
January 10th, 2008 at 8:40 pmAren't these the same people who predicted Iraq would take less than six months and cost $1.7 billion?
It strikes me as rather pathetic that their sunniest prediction is that Bush will rise all the way to 45%. I mean, if you're going to make predictions that have little to do with reality, why not just "go for it" and claim that he'll be as popular as Clinton was when HE left office?
January 10th, 2008 at 8:42 pmThe "White House perdicts... the White House sees... the White House sez..."
January 10th, 2008 at 8:46 pmwhenever you see/or hear the White House (which by the way is a buliding) used in this context, you be can be assured it will be followed by a ludicerous, assinine totally unbelieveable talking point delivered by a ludicerous, assinine totally unbelieveable nut.
If I change my opinion and say "OK, I like President Bush," will he and all his snakes slither out of Washington right now?
January 10th, 2008 at 8:46 pm45% only happens if he starts telling the truth during Cheney's impeachment trials.
January 10th, 2008 at 8:48 pmOn January 20, 2009, 45% of all Americans will approve of the job George W. Bush did, everyday will be a holiday, Sunday will come twice a week, and there will be a Walgreens on every corner.
January 10th, 2008 at 8:49 pmAny president at 35% or below for this long should have been impeached long ago.
January 10th, 2008 at 8:50 pmWhat an American disgrace.
.... and pigs will fly !
January 10th, 2008 at 8:54 pmYeah right, Bushies -- W's ratings will soar in 2008. They also think Bush will seal a deal between the Israelis & Palestinians. They think there will be a complete "cease-fire" in Iraq and the US will assume a "peace keeping" role. They think the economy is going great. Up is down and convex is concave in BushWorld.
These fools have a 100% failure rate. The only thing that will inspire higher ratings for The Boy King will be his departure -- forever -- from our White House.
January 10th, 2008 at 8:55 pmWhen Bush leaves office a lot of people will approve of his leaving. More than 45%, I'd suspect.
January 10th, 2008 at 8:57 pmMaybe if we barbecue his sorry ass and serve it with greens.
January 10th, 2008 at 8:57 pmHate to say it, but they're probably right. As the Republican voters start to consider who to support in the next election they'll feel more kindly to the party. They'll look at the Democrat nominee and regardless of who it is they'll support the Reps and that will make them fell all warm & fuzzy about the party. The net result will be better feelings for the party which will translate into better feelings about GWB. A common enemy will draw them together. If Hillary wins the nomination I expect Bush's popularity to really rise. So long as he's gone I don't give a shite about the % who blindly love him.
January 10th, 2008 at 8:58 pmSo how do they suppose this works? What about
...there will be a teensy little attack out of the blue (wink wink, nudge nudge) on the Homeland allowing the administration (and the DHS dollarmonster) to excel to everyone's satisfaction, and/or...
...the surge will turn out to be a spectacular success, oil prices drop again, Iraq finally pacified to everyone's satisfaction, and/or...
...an attack on Iran will be used to give everyone a militaristic hard-on shortly before George leaves and/or...
...there will be Rapture Event before August whereby Jesus shows up to regroup his flock (but leaves again in disgust).
Any other ideas?
January 10th, 2008 at 9:00 pmThe last time shrub was at 45% was on the descent following a spike in popularity due to a terrorist attack.
Hmmmm, do they know something we don't ????
January 10th, 2008 at 9:02 pmmaybe they'll just lie about the poll numbers like everything else... viola!! 45%!!! not to rain on their soaked parade, but that's still more than half the country thinking he's a sh*thead...
January 10th, 2008 at 9:03 pmYes and Harry Potter is real. Now saying the Middle East will have peace and doing it are two different things. The Middle East couldn't settle it problems for all these years and with a last minute trip and the words from an Idiot President I guess with the magic wand it is to happen because he says so. What is Bush smoking? We have heard the lie about Iran attacking our ships now this. BBC aired the tape of the US and then Iran and it showed clearly the US was lying and using a fake tape so here comes Gates to clean up the lie.
January 10th, 2008 at 9:04 pmGame Cat, if there's any kind of attack, I guarantee that BushCo will not be turning over the reigns of this country. All those exec orders will ensure that The Office of the President and the Coordinator of Homeland Security (which I would bet will be Cheney) are the SOLE government. (This would be http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html and if you want a take on that, check this: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55824. Enjoy reading [and weeping])
Bush intends on becoming king - permanently. Just think of the damage he will do once he calls martial law and takes complete control.
January 10th, 2008 at 9:21 pmyeah,I'LL GIVE BUSH 100% IF HE LEAVES THE WHITE HOUSE FOR GOOD TOMORROW.
January 10th, 2008 at 9:27 pm"Daddy, can I borrow the books from YOUR library? I blocked the public from EVER seeing yours or Reagan's records, and hell, I just TAKIN' the ones from THAT FUKCKER!
PLEASE, Daddy? I wanna bigger LEGACY! WAAAAAHHHHH!"
January 10th, 2008 at 9:33 pmYou and I can crap in one hand and wish in the other to see which one fills up first.
Bush craps in both hands.
January 10th, 2008 at 9:36 pmWhite House Predicts ‘Remarkable Shift’ In The Earth's Crust
East and West Seaboards Will Fall into the Ocean, Upper Midwest Will Fall into Great Lakes
45% of Surviving Americans Will Approve of Bush
January 10th, 2008 at 9:36 pmThat is one question I want to ask all candidates:
Will you recind all the signing statements and executive orders which gave the office of the president unprecedented powers?
All of us should be asking that, IMHO.
January 10th, 2008 at 9:47 pmBartl, I agree with you BUT there is Blackwater to enforce it.
Doesn't that scare you a little bit? It definitely gives me pause.
Do I think that the military would turn against Americans? No. Do I think Blackwater (et al) will? Without hesitation. They are our brownshirts and the thought, to me, is frightening.
January 10th, 2008 at 9:50 pmThat is one question I want to ask all candidates:
Will you recind all the signing statements and executive orders which gave the office of the president unprecedented powers?
All of us should be asking that, IMHO.
Comment by Ms_Joanne
Great point Joanne. As soon as this criminal cabal is out of the White House, we need to start the long process of restoring our democracy.
January 10th, 2008 at 9:50 pmU.S. News’ Washington Whispers reports
WTF? What the hell is a Washington Whispers report and why the phu(k should I care?
Jebus TP! Get real. Focus on the real IMPORTANT SH|T!!
FACISM or THEOCRACY or REPUGNISCUM CRIME...ETC...ETC...ETC...
January 10th, 2008 at 10:03 pmLegacy year? I don't think so. Playing air guitar while NOLA flooded and the subsequent regentrification via Blackwater security, forced bussing and incompetent (heckuva job, Brownie) rebuilding efforts will be the Bush legacy. A whiter, richer NOLA - and all he had to do was exploit a natural disaster. Heckuva legacy, Bushie, heckuva legacy.
And I didn't even mention the illegal war of choice as his other legacy.
January 10th, 2008 at 10:04 pmHis legacy will be one of failure, contempt of the American people and of the rest of the planet.
The line to s[p|h]it on his grave will stretch for miles.
January 10th, 2008 at 10:08 pm"The pollsters and pundits will misinterpret the cheering in the street and the celebrations of Bush’s leaving office as indicative of a rise in his popularity.
Comment by Marie"
Brilliant. And didn't a poll come out last week that over 90% of Democrats are dissatisfied or angry about Bush and nearly 50% of Republicans feel the same? None of these pundits can analyze stats worth a damn. Sounds like a bridge to nowhere to me.
January 10th, 2008 at 10:09 pmDon't much care what his approval ratings may be when he leaves...as long as he LEAVES.
January 10th, 2008 at 10:10 pmThe line to s[p|h]it on his grave will stretch for miles.
Comment by RUCerious — January 10, 2008 @ 10:08 pm
I'll stand on that line!!! 'Till I drop dead if needed!!!
January 10th, 2008 at 10:13 pmLegacy...legacy? The guy's legacy is the murder of the fourth amendment, rendition (kidnapping), torture (completely un-American and inhumane and a violation of the Geneva accords everybody else has adhered to; a violation of international law), spying on Americans on his orders without warrants, ginning up a war using Cheney as his front man to pump up intelligence; operating a gulag in Cuba; disrespecting law passed by congress by amending the laws with signing statements; ordering staff to ignore congressional subpoenas, having a diplomacy program that is totally shit, hiring a criminal AG who then worked as his personal counsel and God knows how much criminality that dumb ass covered up, but...but, the statute of limitations will not run out just because he's leaving. Actually, if the Congress had had a pair, they would have run this punk out on a rail. A draft dodger to top it all off. I ain't barely scratched the surface have I. All this and SMU will have Bush's library on their campus and he gets untold government bennies, including retirement and secret service guys and gals to tote his laundry. His legacy is about three feet lower than whaleshit.
January 10th, 2008 at 10:14 pmthe only time his approval rating will go up is when he stands trial.Then and only then will there be a rise of approval........and it ain't gonna be in his favor.
January 10th, 2008 at 10:17 pmBooshs Library????? That clown can't even speak english.Maybe thats why the neocons want everybody in the country to learn how to speak english.....The guy from Conneticut with the Texas drawl who's afraid of horses...........
January 10th, 2008 at 10:20 pmSigning statements, who cares? Which presidential candidate will renounce ALL extra-Constitutional executive powers granted by Congress, over the past 7 years? Haven't heard from any of them, about this.
Chris Dodd dropped out too soon......
January 10th, 2008 at 10:51 pmHate to say it, but they’re probably right. As the Republican voters start to consider who to support in the next election they’ll feel more kindly to the party.
That might get him to 37% if every Republican says they approve, since that is the percentage of this country that is Republican right now. It might be lower, but I'm sure it is not higher.
January 10th, 2008 at 10:51 pm37% would be FAR too kind. But as someone else said, between the uber rich, rich, rich wannabees, and dumb$hits, that probably does it.
January 10th, 2008 at 10:53 pmThere's been a lot of discussion lately on the blogs about monkeys flying out of one's butt.
January 10th, 2008 at 10:55 pmThis would be one of those moments.
Like we can believe any information that come out of the Bush White House. There is NOTHING these people will not lie about. The old saying is figures don't lie but liars figure. Well there are no bigger liars around.
January 10th, 2008 at 10:58 pmWell, I know for sure (barring any unforeseen circumstances, such as a declaration of martial law and cancelling the November elections) that my approval rating of Bush's job as President will be 100% on January 21st. There's nothing like being out of the job to guarantee that you can't do anything to screw it up.
January 10th, 2008 at 10:59 pmWhite House Predicts ‘Remarkable Shift’: Bush Will Leave Office With 45 Percent Approval
January 10th, 2008 at 11:06 pmone has to wonder what surprise attack is going to happen and where.
Well, if Chimpy plans on going into Pakistan to get Bin Laden, Musharraff says he'll consider it an invasion.
Pakistan says, no, no, no.
-GSD
January 10th, 2008 at 11:12 pmPakistan threatens.
-G
reprisal.http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080111/wl_nm/pakistan_musharraf_dc
January 10th, 2008 at 11:14 pmPoor georgejr - his leaving office will receive FAR more than 45% approval. By myself, I'd give it 100% approval...
January 10th, 2008 at 11:18 pmI'd expect a rise in Bush's popularity only because it always seems there's a rise in a President's popularity when he leaves office. Whether it's because we're a forgiving sort, or it's because some of us worry about what the future will bring so we wax nostalgic about the past no matter how awful it actually was, it always seems to result in a bump for the departing Prez. But for it to get to 45%, the pollsters would have to more or less focus on people working in the White House on the day before his departure, and people with the last name Bush. And even then, 45% might be optimistic.
January 10th, 2008 at 11:21 pmHere's my approval rating:
Worst. President. EVER.
January 10th, 2008 at 11:28 pmOkay . . . let me try the more appropriate version.
Spin it however you'd like . . .
January 10th, 2008 at 11:44 pmThis SOB will rot in the bowels of hell for eternity . . . with his Uncle Dick.
The sh$t thats gonna come out this year will keep Barnes and Noble in business for the next 30 years.
I hope to live to see the day when they declassify all the crap that this admin did (and didn't do). Talk about riveting reading!
Pat, I'd like to buy a 4th Estate for $250, please. Thank god we have a few investigative journalists left in this country. Alas, it's only liberals who will know anything because we are the only ones who read...unless it's in the National Enquirer and it's about BritLindHilton (and doesn't contain any words with greater than two syllables in them - pretty much the reading level of our current president).
January 10th, 2008 at 11:46 pmWhy don't he just leave office. That would be doing the country a favor. Bush is so in love with himself that he is trying to make some noise or news in the Middle East so as to take the media's attention away from the primaries. Bush, the Decider that makes all the wrong decisions. The only right decision he could possibly make would be to resign as president.
January 10th, 2008 at 11:46 pmI predict that 45% will approve of ripping his head off and taking a dump down his throat.
January 10th, 2008 at 11:47 pmwhitehouse.org, right? Those guys always fool me. This one was pretty obvious, though...
January 10th, 2008 at 11:54 pmfound at C&L ... hoorah!
New blog in town: Sweet Jesus, I hate Chris Matthews
g'nite, folks...
January 11th, 2008 at 12:11 amso we wax nostalgic
I seem to be waxing nauseous...
January 11th, 2008 at 12:13 amBush supporters have set the bar so low that they dream of the day when their Dear (mis)Leader may -just may- have any approval rate above 33%, even if it doesn't even reach the 50% mark.
It's almost pitiful, frankly.
January 11th, 2008 at 12:22 amYes I'm sure he can pull 45% if he sticks exclusively to his mom and dad which will leave a 5% *margarine of error. *to use his own words.
January 11th, 2008 at 12:25 amOnly the Bush personality cult followers could possibly think of being excited over a failing grade.
Like leader, like followers. They must be using their Rove Math kits...
January 11th, 2008 at 12:26 amSarkozy doesnt leave the gossip columns
January 11th, 2008 at 12:28 amActually, this was originally a conversation between Cheech and Chong: "Man...the White House predicts some remarkable sh!t ...man...yeah, they are full of it, man" and then they had C&C's grammar "corrected".
January 11th, 2008 at 12:41 amShouldn't a Middle East Peace Treaty be seen as a "Catch 22" for the Bush Administration?
January 11th, 2008 at 12:41 amHow Bush can have a 45% approval rating:
Just poll the 30% who still say they support him. 45% of those actually approve the job he's doing.
January 11th, 2008 at 12:42 amBush Will Leave Office With 45 Percent Approval
What's worse, that poll will only include the White House staff....
January 11th, 2008 at 12:47 amWhat is astounding to me is that Pres Bush's job approval rate continues to hover around 30% and refuses to go any lower.
Isn't that the same percentage of Americans who believe the Earth is 6,000 years old, and that Noah carried dinosaurs in the ark?
There is no cure for stupidity, I say...
January 11th, 2008 at 12:56 amI saw Bush on tv today reading a speech about how he wants peace in Palestine and he LOOKED UP FOR AN ENTIRE SENTENCE.
Of course, the speech sounded like it was written for a sixth-grader---but he spoke the whole sentence without flubbing it or stopping in the middle and saying "Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" for a few seconds.
I swear--he's been practicing.
January 11th, 2008 at 1:02 amThis administration has been wrong about everything else so this prediction only means that his approval rating will be left unchanged or to go lower. When the current occupant of the White House leaves a giant dunce cap will fall off the entire country. This alcoholic frat-boy has dumbed down the entire government and when he leaves the sun will come out and the spell of his unique brand of ignorance and ideology will be broken. It will be left to us to clean up the mess and to learn from this mistake.
January 11th, 2008 at 1:02 amFor once, I think the Bush's staff is right about something. I predict W's approval rating will soar well ABOVE 45% by the time he leaves office. I know many people, myself included, who definitely approve his leaving the White House.
January 11th, 2008 at 1:08 amThis prediction is as valid as Bush's claim of WMD in Iraq. The Bush administration will be remembered as one that destroys the integrity of government, brings shame and disgrace to a great nation, tarnishes the positive image of the American people (minus those who voted for the idiot Bush).
Bush has a legacy: the WORST PRESIDENT EVER! Actually, Bush is not only the worst president, he's the most idiotic and insanely stupid humanoid walking this planet. Bush's arrogance blended with his utter ignorance and incoherence have cost this nation hundreds of billions of dollar. Bush legacy will be that of record deficits and 151,000 Iraqi deaths. All this for oil and to help his cronies at Halliburton and Blackwater to get filthy rich, at the expense of the American people.
Bush has also destroyed the Republican party, as it is now a laughing stock of the world for being a party that consists of greedy and moronic lowlife idiots.
Bush must be held accountable for this treasonous crimes and crimes against humanity. He and Cheney must be tried and executed in public.
January 11th, 2008 at 1:51 amTypo! Should be 4.5% He's going to prison.
January 11th, 2008 at 2:05 amAnd this will turn out to be as true as all bush's other predictions ... WMD - greeted as liberators - Iraq will pay for itself - no longer then 6 months - last throes ... yeah, believe everything the man says ...
January 11th, 2008 at 2:06 amThis is Onion territory...
January 11th, 2008 at 2:20 amEven if Busch does hit 45%, he still will always be a sh¡t brick.
∞
January 11th, 2008 at 2:39 amWow! talk about lowering the bar .... when did 45 % become bragging rights?
January 11th, 2008 at 4:51 am45 is his IQ, not his approval rating. And I'm being generous.
January 11th, 2008 at 5:08 amFormer Pollster Pleads Guilty to Fabricating Results
Tracy Costin, the former owner of polling company DataUSA Inc., entered a guilty plea to conspiracy to commit mail fraud for fabricating the results of polls the company conduct on behalf of, among others, President Bush in 2004.
http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/whitecollarcrime_blog/2006/09/former_pollster.html
January 11th, 2008 at 5:44 amWhat’d he do? Make a deal with Israel to bomb Iran if they make an appearance of peace with Palestineans? He takes credit for bringing peace to the ME and sees his numbers go up before he leaves? And, that is supposed to cancel out ALL the crap he has pulled and damage he has wrought over the last 7 years?
I DON’T THINK SO!!
Comment by nwmuse — January 10, 2008 @ 8:17 pm
Bush doesn't "make deals" with Israel. Bush takes orders and gets the script from Israel.
This is all just theater.
January 11th, 2008 at 5:46 amDick Morris, a career pollster (who has worked for both parties), states in the Hill News that the Election Night pattern of exit polls versus popular vote in six battleground states - Florida, Ohio, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada and Iowa - was "virtually inconceivable":
"Exit polls are almost never wrong ... So reliable are the surveys that actually tap voters as they leave the polling places that they are used as guides to the relative honesty of elections in Third World countries. … To screw up one exit poll is unheard of. To miss six of them is incredible."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_U.S._presidential_election_controversy%2C_exit_polls
January 11th, 2008 at 5:47 am2006 FLASHBACK -
THE SWIFTBOATING OF “EXIT POLLINGâ€
Last night it started. CNN’s Jeff Greenfield was interviewed about the forthcoming elections, and his parting comment at the end of the segment was what would have appeared to be an off-handed disparaging remark about the reliability of Exit Polls.
Greenfield was/is shilling for Rove – and this was a TALKING POINT ordered up by Rove. “Exit Polling†had not been part of the prior discussion, but was something that he slipped in at the end of the segment – as if ordered to do so.
Rove has been interviewed in recent days proclaiming that HIS polling (which he proclaims nobody else has access to and is superior to all other polling data) portrays the key races to be very close, not nearly the blowouts that the REALITY BASED COMMUNITY is seeing.
THIS IS A SET UP.
If you are going to STEAL AN ELECTION VIA VOTE RIGGING – you need to lay the ground work – planting doubt in the minds of the electorate through the media shills.
Exit polling has only been called into question in the last two election cycles – but ONLY because the Exit Polling data were not confirmed by the final “official†vote tally. As has now been proven, it was not the Exit Polling data that was inaccurate or unreliable, it was the reporting of the Official Total†that had been tampered with.
It’s time to TAKE THE OFFENSIVE where Exit Polling is concerned and reveal this Swiftboating of “Exit Polling†for what it is – a Rovian sham.
The Mainstream Media is fully complicit in the Rovian Brainwashing campaign to discredit “Exit Polling†as unscientific hoohah.
The GOP has employed a firm called Penn, Schoen, & Berland to skew exit poll results in the past in order to achieve their own political ends. They are on Rove’s payroll:
http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=70727
Electoral Fraud Is the First Step on the Road to Tyranny
http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=70456
November 2, 2004: Overcoming a six point exit-poll advantage by Senator John Kerry, George Bush is re-elected President. Several statisticians have calculated the probability of this anomaly as one in a million -- in effect, impossible.
January 11th, 2008 at 5:48 amI was told specifically by someone in a position to know:
“There is no Bin Laden…I mean there is a guy named Osama Bin Laden - but there is no Osama Bin Laden…he’s a 6’6†Algerian for Chris-sakes…I mean get real!â€
If you can just get your head around that, and then look at everything else in that context, it changes EVERYTHING. Al Qaeda is a CIA invention. How it may have been manipulated or used following the prior war in Afghanistan using agents provacateur as enablers and directors is becoming more clear every day.
Nearly 200 Mossad Agents were mirroring the movements of the purported hijackers on US soil in the months preceeding 9/11. They were arrested and deported. They claimed to have warned “FBI Authorities†of a pending attack in the days prior to 9/11. They said it was a “warning.†Was it merely final planning? Did they “warn†a mole who simply buried the information?
Why don’t we have a right to know these answers?
What are we to make of the 60 page DEA report detailing the movements of these Israeli spies?
Why are the stories of the Israeli Art Student Spy Ring and the Dancing Israelis all spiked? Why is there a total US Media Blackout on these stories?
These questions seem to answer themselves.
Judy Miller was either a useful idiot or a spy, but either way, the results were the same. She was clearly a tool of the Neocons/Zionists in the SELLING OF A WAR (as if it were a product to be pitched).
The motive? This assumes there was a single motive. Each of the actors involved had their own reasons for engaging in the conspiracy.
For those who benefitted financially from the 9/11 attacks and ALL that has followed, the primary motive was likely greed, with a secondary lust for power and control.
Who bought the stock of Invision airport bomb detection equipment prior to 9/11? Who shorted American Airlines? What did Carlyle do to position itself in advance of the attacks? Follow the money. Where is Chertoff’s final report (Operation Greenquest)? The answer…Bush buried it.
For Evangelicals the goal is the end of days so they can meet their maker while during their own brief stint on planet earth.
For Israel, expanding the realm and controlling global finance.
Daschle: Congress Denied Bush War Powers in U.S.
By Barton Gellman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, December 23, 2005; Page A04
The Bush administration requested, and Congress rejected, war-making authority “in the United States†in negotiations over the joint resolution passed days after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, according to an opinion article by former Senate majority leader Thomas A. Daschle (D-S.D.) in today’s Washington Post.
Daschle’s disclosure challenges a central legal argument offered by the White House in defense of the National Security Agency’s warrantless wiretapping of U.S. citizens and permanent residents. It suggests that Congress refused explicitly to grant authority that the Bush administration now asserts is implicit in the resolution.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/22/AR2005122202119.html
And then…a few weeks later…
W A S H I N G T O N, Nov. 1 A group of military scientists is feverishly examining the microscopic spores of anthrax sent to Sen. Tom Daschle for clues to a mystery that could have profound implications for the United States and its ongoing war on terror: Who made it?
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92006&page=1
January 11th, 2008 at 5:52 amRead & Learn:
http://plungerspeaks.blogspot.com
People are dying. The very least you can do is read.
January 11th, 2008 at 5:53 amThe White House now disputes the premature press statement:
January 11th, 2008 at 5:55 amBefore George bush leaves office his approval rating will improve to 45 %.
Upon further reporting it was revealed that Dick Chaney’s brown shirts (blackwater )
Rounded up all the pollsters and made them an offer they can’t refuse…
A – to be waterboarded until they decide to raise the approval rating or
B – to be bent over and tied to the toilet in sen. Larry Craig’s private bathroom for him to do what he wants
Within minutes the overwhelming show of Republican pollsters were volunteering for option B. So much so, they were forced to release a retraction of the original statement and replaced it with this:
Before George bush leaves office his approval rating will improve to 245 %.,
Later , in private, press secretary Dana Perino was overheard saying that Coward George Bush feels the percentage could have been even higher, but Karl Rove was seen constantly jumping the line, demanding seconds and thirds
“Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one’s self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.â€
Michael Rivera
January 11th, 2008 at 6:09 amWhite House Predicts ‘Remarkable Shift’: Bush Will Leave Office With 45 Percent Approval
And I predict: NO WAY IN FREAKING HELL!
January 11th, 2008 at 6:22 am"... his achievements on the domestic front."
Oh right! The Katrina rescue effort, the ballooning federal debt, the trashing of the environment...
Either the WH aides are in full desperation mode and this is a last ditch effort to manipulate public opinion (too late, guys) or they are smoking some really powerful stuff.
January 11th, 2008 at 6:27 amOf course.
Everybody will be happy when that idiot will be forced to retire.
January 11th, 2008 at 6:31 am124 posts and not one troll came to the defense of the chimp in chief.....that says something in itself.
January 11th, 2008 at 7:07 amHow much spin on numbers do these pollsters think we Americans are so stupid to believe? It's been said history is written by the winner. Within the mind's core of logical thinking, does this pollster's statement of 45% approval legacy for Bush really hold truth to any American? A comparison to Richard Burton holding up his fingers on one hand asking the victim in "1984" to state the number of fingers held up by Burton the movie 1984's number count is the same as 2008. It makes no difference the fingers held up (numbers), but that you agree with the reality of 'seeing' and 'accepting' government's truth reality and not what is the actual number reality. To accept 45% by any one of us actually places the person to giving up themselves to never existing. You're just a number, friend, to this government. Your social security numbers prove it. Without the reality of one's mind do you exist? Legacy? Impeachment isn't enough!
January 11th, 2008 at 7:26 amImpeachment isn’t enough!
Impeachment isn’t enough!
Impeachment isn’t enough!
Impeachment isn’t enough!
Word.
Downing St. Memos and Nuremberg: Illegality of the Iraq War
My most recent article on The Last Ditch website is "The Downing Street memos and Nuremberg: The illegality of the war on Iraq" at http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/snieg_downing.htm which presents how the US attack on Iraq was illegal by the standards of the Nuremberg trial and current international law. While this was pretty obvious before the release of the Downing St. memos, those leaked memos confirm it completely.
Some excerpts:
The American Establishment has conventionally praised and invoked the 1945-46 Nuremberg trial of the Nazi leadership as a model for bringing international criminals to justice. But what if the same standards applied at Nuremberg were also applied to current U.S. policy? And a parallel trial were convened? In such a proceeding, would American leaders fare any better than the captured German leadership?
When people today think of Nazi criminality they think of the mass extermination of Jews: gas chambers, human soap, millions of bodies turned to ash in factory-like death camps. But the fact, which has largely been tossed down the memory hole, is that the extermination of Jews was not the fundamental Nazi crime cited at Nuremberg. Nor was it even the murder of noncombatant gentiles in addition to Jews. Rather, the major crime was the making of "aggressive war" — also referred to as "crimes against peace."
It is plain, then, that people knowledgeable about international law considered the attack on Iraq to be illegal long before the Downing Street memos came to light in 2005. But the leaked memos further confirm the war's illegality.
First, they confirm that the Bush administration had decided to attack Iraq and overthrow Saddam before Blix's inspectors ever set foot in Iraq. In short, not finding any WMDs would not prevent a U.S. attack
But no matter how positively the United States advertises itself and its motives, it has violated the same precepts of international law for which the Nazi leaders, and even some men who were not among the chief leaders, were severely punished. Not to worry, though: the United States can get away with its violations of international law. Unlike Nazi Germany, it has yet to be conquered by its enemies.
But none of that is of any importance to America's current leadership . . . . Judging from the American example, we must conclude that the only punishable "crime" in the struggle among nation-states is to lose a war.
In light of that rule, it is easy to understand why other countries scramble to equip themselves with the most powerful weapons they can lay their hands on.
For the entire article see: http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/snieg_downing.htm
WAR CRIMINALS
January 11th, 2008 at 7:31 amTwo years ago, Cheney appeared on Larry King. He stepped in it big time, but few people caught it. I alerted Rude Pundit and he wrote about it.
an excerpt:
Then Cheney made this statement: "In a sense, when you're at war, you keep prisoners of war until the war is over with." So, like, if, in a sense, the Gitmo campers are "prisoners of war," then, in a sense, don't they get Geneva Conventions protections?
Cheney and Gonzales have been playing a semantics game to justify torture, since "war" was never formally declared. It's pretty obvious why they chose to embark upon the path of war without ever formally declaring it - so they could not be held accountable for the War Crimes they knew they'd be committing.
Bush tells us every day that we're at war. Cheney and Gonzales tell us that we're not REALLY at war.
Problem is, Cheney is on tape stating not only that we are at war, but that we are holding "prisoners of war."
The Geneva Conventions DO APPLY, and Cheney is guilty of war Crimes.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0505/30/lkl.01.html
KING: They specifically said, though, it was Guantanamo. They compared it to a gulag.
D. CHENEY: Not true. Guantanamo's been operated, I think, in a very sane and sound fashion by the U.S. military. Remember who's down there. These are people that were picked up off the battlefield in Afghanistan and other places in the global war on terror. These are individuals who have been actively involved as the enemy, if you will, trying to kill Americans. That we need to have a place where we can keep them. In a sense, when you're at war, you keep prisoners of war until the war is over with."
So this is the war without end, and these prisoners will be held forever?
WAR CRIMES
January 11th, 2008 at 7:33 amhttp://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060227fa_fact
New Yorker
From the article:
Yoo believed that the President's role as Commander-in-Chief gave him virtually unlimited authority to decide whether America should respond militarily to a terror attack, and, if so, what kind of force to use. "Those decisions, under our Constitution, are for the President alone to make," he wrote in a law article.
A top Administration official told me that Yoo, Addington, and a few other lawyers had essentially "hijacked policy" after September 11th. "They thought, Now we can put our views into practice. We have the ability to write them into binding law. It was just shocking. These memos were presented as faits accomplis."
In Yoo's opinion, he wrote that at Guantánamo cruel, inhumane, and degrading treatment of detainees could be authorized, with few restrictions.
"The memo espoused an extreme and virtually unlimited theory of the extent of the President's Commander-in-Chief authority,"
So this same approach was used across the board. Addington effectively sought to obtain "legal opinions" which were in fact illegal, with the specific intent to provide Bush and Cheney with sufficient legal cover to behave as Dictators and Kings, as there were virtually no laws that applied to them, as determined by edict.
This is where we stand today. There is not one single law that applies to Bush or Cheney. They have found lawyers who were willing to craft opinions stating that they were above the law, and in so doing, have subverted the Constitution of the United States.
This activity was intentional, willful and treasonous.
They were sworn to uphold the constitution.
Given this information, others in a position to do something about it (who also swore under oath to protect the Constitution against all enemies Foreign and DOMESTIC) now have an obligation to fulfill.
They must call for the impeachment of this administration. It is their legal obligation given the evidence before them.
Time to choose sides, folks.
WAR CRIMES
HIGH TREASON
January 11th, 2008 at 7:35 amKBR awarded Homeland Security contract worth up to $385M By Katherine Hunt Last Update: 12:19 PM ET Jan 24, 2006
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- KBR, the engineering and construction subsidiary of Halliburton Co., said Tuesday it has been awarded a contingency contract from the Department of Homeland Security to supports its Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities in the event of an emergency. The maximum total value of the contract is $385 million and consists of a 1-year base period with four 1-year options. KBR held the previous ICE contract from 2000 through 2005. The contract, which is effective immediately, provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to expand existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs, KBR said. The contract may also provide migrant detention support to other government organizations in the event of an immigration emergency, as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency, such as a natural disaster, the company said.
http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?guid=%7B62C8724D%2DAE8A %2D4B5C%2D94C7%2D70171315C0A0%7D&dateid=38741%2E5136277662%2D858254656&s iteID=mktw&scid=0&doctype=806
as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency
as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency
as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency
There's your key phrase...hidden nicely right at the end of the release. detention Centers are being built for a National Emergency...under the guise of being built to hold illegal aliens.
Can we get the congress to agree that they will pass a law to ensure that they will NEVER be used to imprison political dissidents?
Dare to ask the question.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/022106a.html
CHERTOFF = FOREIGN AGENT OF INFLUENCE
January 11th, 2008 at 7:36 amThey better be really focused on the people they use for any poll they wish to use to compliment Bush's performance. I think "performance" is a more meaningful word than competency in this case.
January 11th, 2008 at 7:46 amAnd my pet Goat will be able to sing and dance by then too.
January 11th, 2008 at 7:47 amAs the 1983 American Heritage Dictionary noted, fascism is: "A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism." (The US dictionary definition has gotten somewhat squishier since then, as all the larger dictionary companies have been bought up by multinational corporations.)
Mussolini was quite straightforward about all this. In a 1923 pamphlet titled "The Doctrine of Fascism" he wrote, "If classical liberalism spells individualism, Fascism spells government." But not a government of, by, and for We The People - instead, it would be a government of, by, and for the most powerful corporate interests in the nation.
It seems that facism more resembles bush policy that islamic theocracy...
Here is the 14-point Britt definition as posted some months ago...
Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes, media is directly controlled by the government. But in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
January 11th, 2008 at 8:00 amI whole heartedly agree! I think at least 45% of the people in his cell block will approve of him!
January 11th, 2008 at 8:06 amWhoever came up with this nonsense has to be congratulated for being such a Fool.
January 11th, 2008 at 8:24 amWell, I for one will "approve" when the dimwitted fart knocker finally leaves!!!!
January 11th, 2008 at 8:24 amIt’s time to raise the level of discourse where the term “Conspiracy†is concerned:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/reports/2005/franklin_indictment_04aug2005.htm
We’ve all been conditioned to snicker and ridicule when non-professionals offer theories about conspiracies. It’s time to talk about all of these theories and unravel the whole thing.
The Abramoff, AIPAC and Libby Trials are ALL THE SAME CONSPIRACY:
http://plungerspeaks.blogspot.com/
Cheney sent Ledeen to meet with Ambassador Mel Sembler in Italy to plant the forged Niger document.
COINCIDENTALLY…
Mel sembler heads up Scooter Libby’s Legal defense fund
AND
Despite the fact he’s a lifelong Republican, Sembler held a fundraiser for Lieberman in Palm Beach - in coordination with Rove and the WH.
Connect ALL the dots…
Lieberman is now assigned the task of protecting Chertoff.
How does McCain factor in?
A New Jersey-based investment banker deeply involved in fund-raising efforts for the 2004 Republican convention, Lewis Eisenberg, is signing on with Mr. McCain. Mr. Eisenberg is a former Goldman Sachs partner who served as chairman of the Port Authority board at the time of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
WHAT A COINCIDENCE!
It was Eisenberg who passed the $15 billion Asbestos Liability represented by the Twin Towers onto Larry Silverstein, the man who confessed publicly to having Building 7 “PULLED†by explosives – despite the fact that no plane struck it:
Pull the entire thread and don’t stop pulling.
The Asbestos liability belonged to Halliburton, having acquired it along with his acquisition of Dresser.
GW included the issue in his State of the Union speech in 2005:
“To make our economy stronger and more competitive, America must reward, not punish, the efforts and dreams of entrepreneurs. Small business is the path of advancement, especially for women and minorities, so we must free small businesses from needless regulation and protect honest job-creators from junk lawsuits. (Applause.) Justice is distorted, and our economy is held back by irresponsible class-actions and frivolous asbestos claims — and I urge Congress to pass legal reforms this year.â€
FULL CIRCLE.
January 11th, 2008 at 8:27 amMid 20's
January 11th, 2008 at 8:28 amStandard operating proceedure. This is simply step one. Make rediculous claim, then start repeating it. Later they can claim it was true and look back to their own predictions as evidence for it not being made up. Todays repugnicants have gotten really good at re writing history. Look at how they have remade the Reagen Image. They act now like he was a great president. No body would have bought that when they could actually see how bad he was. THey can say it over and over today until they actually beleive it. It is all about re writing history. They keep claiming that "history" will be the judge. That is republican code for give the people time to forget a little and we can fix this with propoganda and BS.
January 11th, 2008 at 8:32 amI believe that this is being misinterpreted slightly. The idea of domestic policy improving Bush's approval rating is absurd. There is one very simple way for him to enhance his status, but he will carry out this cynical, evil act only if a Democrat wins the White House. Look for an invasion, likely of Iran, within two weeks of the election, as discussed here:
Bush Will Invade Iran, Obtain 45% Approval Rating
January 11th, 2008 at 8:35 amWhy would anyone believe anything coming out of the Whitehouse and this administration. But, then, people tend to believe what they are told by the press. As most would agree here, most of us here can't wait for the day that Bush leaves office--he and his slugs are very dangerous people.
January 11th, 2008 at 8:35 amhttp://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?ex=1151899200&en=079d03a2a9db7c23&ei=5070
It was during a press conference on Sept. 16, 2001, in response to a question about homeland security efforts infringing on civil rights, that Bush first used the telltale word ''crusade'' in public. ''This is a new kind of -- a new kind of evil,'' he said. ''And we understand. And the American people are beginning to understand. This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while.''
In the summer of 2002, after I had written an article in Esquire that the White House didn't like about Bush's former communications director, Karen Hughes, I had a meeting with a senior adviser to Bush. He expressed the White House's displeasure, and then he told me something that at the time I didn't fully comprehend -- but which I now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency.
The aide said that guys like me were ''in what we call the reality-based community,'' which he defined as people who ''believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.'' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ''That's not the way the world really works anymore,'' he continued. ''We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.''
Who besides guys like me are part of the reality-based community? Many of the other elected officials in Washington, it would seem. A group of Democratic and Republican members of Congress were called in to discuss Iraq sometime before the October 2002 vote authorizing Bush to move forward. A Republican senator recently told Time Magazine that the president walked in and said: ''Look, I want your vote. I'm not going to debate it with you.'' When one of the senators began to ask a question, Bush snapped, ''Look, I'm not going to debate it with you.''
January 11th, 2008 at 8:40 amThese people live in some kind of alternate reality!
Drugs? Maybe Prozak?
Maybe 45% of Bush's loonytune zealot religious base will approve, but not the rest of the US.
Bush has been the worst president in US history!
January 11th, 2008 at 8:41 am----
Bush aides predict he’ll be at 45 percent when he leaves office...
----
Turd Blossom's spreading around the manure again. Well I hope George W. Bush will remember: when you wrestle with a turd, all you get is covered in sh*t.
- Tom
January 11th, 2008 at 8:48 am"Bushies believe their guy will eventually get credit for opening the war on terror."
Thank Christ for that, because any one with a shred of integrity and a couple hours to research knows that "their guy" the puppet condoned the globalist Neo-Con sociopathic cabal's "new Pearl Harbor," the orchestration of the events of 9/11. What satisfaction (from our camp) that "their guy will get credit for opening the war on terror"
January 11th, 2008 at 8:51 amI find it quite telling that the Bush gang are optimistic that his approval ratings will reach 45% by the time he leaves office. Yes, that would be a remarkable shift, but do they realize that if he manages to achieve this figure that over half of the country will still hate the job he has done?
Remember, this is a guy who won twice with Rove-engineered razor thin margins and then called it a "mandate". Bushworld and our reality are two different planets.
January 11th, 2008 at 8:58 amApparently he thinks that crying (as Hilary did) will help despite his deeds that show disdain for Americans, the military and the constitution.
January 11th, 2008 at 9:02 amThis administration would no doubt view an approval rating of 1% as wildly successful.
January 11th, 2008 at 9:02 amThis is actually ominous news because this sounds like the crime family will elevate its status by orchestrating another event, and also declare martial law (without Congress). They do know that if and when they leave office they will need their successors to exonerate them like the Clintons did Poppy's gang
If there is another 9/11 the Gatekeepers will share the blame, for their unceasing mockery of the reality of false-flag gov't sponsored terror
9/11 was an inside job -- do the damn research already
January 11th, 2008 at 9:08 amWell, well, Berty the Bust is back with his big bag of bs. What a surprise.
January 11th, 2008 at 9:12 amFunny that you moonbats want to go here what with your miracle moonbat congress posting the lowest confidence numbers in the history of congress. President Bush could lose 25 points at this point in time and still beat the single digit popularity rating that SanFranNan, Swamp Thing Murtha and Dirty Hairy Reid have managed to bring congress down to.
Comment by BERT CONVY — January 11, 2008 @ 8:47 am
This used to be amusing, now it's just sad. The neocons have run out of ways to defend their guy and so their only counter-argument is to bash the approval ratings of Congress.
This has been rebutted many, many times already, so pay attention.
1) Historically, the approval rating for Congress has almost ALWAYS been lower than that of the president. Why? Because people are expressing their opinion of ONE GUY. An approval rating for Congress reflects how America feels about a group of 535 people. And there's always somebody in that group of 535 people that any given American won't like. When people are polled as to how they feel about their OWN Congressperson or Senators (which would make the comparison apples to apples), the numbers are much higher.
2) If you've noticed, the "moonbats" here aren't all that thrilled with Congress, either. The Republicans are nothing but obstructionists, and the Democrats have not done what we elected them to do - cut off funding for the war in Iraq until troops start getting withdrawn and impeach Cheney and Bush for their flagrant abuses of power. The fact that we are disappointed in Congress does not in any way vindicate your idol. It just means that we condemn incompetence wherever we see it -- even if it's "our team". Something Republicans never seem to do.
If you're going to defend your guy, why not say something in actual defense of the job he has done instead of changing the subject? Or can't you do that?
January 11th, 2008 at 9:13 amOnly 45%? That's a bit low.
January 11th, 2008 at 9:17 amMethinks 100% of America will be most happy to see him go and take his cronies with him. Good bye and good riddance.
Whoo hoo, Bert! 2 strawmen in one thread! When all else fails, bring up Clinton. And it only took over 12 hours to bring up the approval ratings for congress! Both are irrelevant to the topic of the thread, tho!
You seem like an intelligent kind of troll who may follow sports, so let's compare Bush's early tenor with a hypothetical football team:
A successful football program (winning many championships), headed by one of the greatest, and most popular coach of all time, has to mandatory retire. The successor, his assistant coach, was selected by the alumni to replace him, but is over ruled due to the heavily partisan athletic board, to which they nominate a dim witted coach, who has practically no experience with football. The first thing said coach does is totally distance himself and his coaches from the previous staff, overhauling everything they had done.
January 11th, 2008 at 9:35 amInstead of training and practicing for the upcoming season, the new head coach spends the majority of his time vacationing, basking in his not so glorious "victory".
Well, the football team's first actual home game of the season, coached by the new staff, is an embarrassing loss to App. State, who was a heavy underdog.
And you, Bert, choose to blame the previous coach?
You're too funny! Blinded by partisan brainwashing, but funny!
Butt yes the rapist and chief gets the complete credit for 9/11
Comment by BERT & ERNIE'S CONVOY — January 11, 2008 @ 9:22 am
"Butt"? "Butt"? "Butt"? "rapist"?
Oh, sorry intelligent folks here at TP, and please feel free to ignore the following request and possible rebuttal, but I have to:
January 11th, 2008 at 9:53 amBert, please provide your "factual" resources regarding Bill ever "raping" someone.
(this should be interesting. I wonder if it's the same source that says Hilllary murdered Foster, and the Clintons murdered those teen agers along some rail road tracks in Arkansas)
EVIL BY ANY OTHER NAME
George W. Bush personifies the most malevolent, irredeemable and diabolic aspects of mankind. Not only is he wantonly destructive, purposefully dishonest and shamelessly unremorseful, he disgracefully defends his catastrophic decisions by hiding and perpetuating the devastating impact they have on the lives of defenseless human beings. Hundreds of thousands of innocent children, women and men, who have not harbored a harmful thought toward another human being, have been murdered, eviscerated and or maimed because George W. Bush is the president of the United States of America. And yet, his overriding priority is to prolong the inhuman carnage he has instigated, not to end it. George W. Bush is an indelibly chilling example of what man is capable of doing to his fellow man......the worst example possible.
IMPEACHMENT is the only means we have of stopping the cataclysmic consequences of the unrelenting EXTREMIST DELUSION, IGNORANCE, ARROGANCE, INCOMPETENCE, DISHONESTIES, INSECURITIES, HOSTILE TEMPERAMENT, VINDICTIVENESS and PRONOUNCED PSYCHOLOGICAL DEFECTS of George W. Bush. He is an intellectually and emotionally mean-spirited immature child who is destroying America's honor, integrity and security single-handedly. And politically correct Democrats are standing by watching as he dismantles our Constitution and rules of law creating an all powerful and self-ruling/policing ONE branch oppressive/fascist American government. No individual in our history is more deserving of CONDEMNATION and PROSECUTION than George W. Bush!
January 11th, 2008 at 10:08 amyea, good luck with that.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:43 amThe ONLY way Boy George gets to 45% is if he takes the Adolph way and spoils the rug in the Oval Office. Then he will get the sympathy vote and pop up over 35%.
Otherwise he will go down in history as the most hated, reviled and despised pResident ever. Except among the 25%ers, who have wires touching anyway.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:43 amFunny how the troll Bert Convy was asked to defend his Dear Leaders record and he simply re-pastes his anti-Clinton tirade. I guess Bush (the WORST President in US history) is utterly indefensible if even this dillusional Republicon can't list one accomplishment by this inept, treasonous Administration. If anyone wants a real laugh, click on Convy's name to catch a glimpse into the mind of a truly disturbed, hateful, truth-challenged Reich Wingnut. It puts some of his foaming at the mouth rants into a more comical perspective.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:50 amNo, that's not his approval rating - 45 will be his IQ score at the end of his reign as King.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:00 amA Patriot Acting,
You owe me a morning, this one is ruined. That is one perverted sick site. If ever there were a head case crying out to stop him before he does something bad, that Bert is it. Seriously deranged.
Gives a face to the 25%ers though doesn't it?
January 11th, 2008 at 11:11 amWow. Whatever it is that those White House folks are smoking...
I want some.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:19 amWhat's he going to do--give free chococlate cake for breakfast at all schools and replace all water coolers with martini bars?
January 11th, 2008 at 11:21 amWhite Houses can't talk...but the people in them can lie,lie,lie. Make that .0000045%
January 11th, 2008 at 11:27 amThat's some boast -- our guy will have a 45% approval rating. Talk about aiming low. Maybe even Bushies realize their guy has been in over his head from Day One and should've been removed from office a long time ago, whether by impeachment or conviction.
January 11th, 2008 at 12:03 pmHe might get that... If he guarantees he wont declare a state of emergency and suspend the elections. Many are now to the point of giving him whatever he wants to be rid of him.
January 11th, 2008 at 12:08 pmHeck, if he promises to resign today, I'll give him a 100% approval rating - um, but only AFTER he actually does resign. ;o)
January 11th, 2008 at 12:12 pmWhat's so great about 45%? It still means that the majority of Americans think he's doing a lousy job!
January 11th, 2008 at 12:54 pmOK here we go molly… one more time…
you democrats can rest assured that YOU can claim the honor of opening the war on terror when Bill(_!_)Clinton sat on his hands after every attack on Americans and American facilities and ships.
His do nothing, send them to the timeout chair response led Osama to believe that we were weak and afraid. It took a wartime President to open a can of American whoopass on the beheaders…
Butt yes the rapist and chief gets the complete credit for 9/11 and those American Casualties as well as the rest he slept through…
God Bless GW and while we’re at it just in case the Clintons are listening… Hey scumbags, Please bring back the furniture you stole out of the White House…
I won’t hold my breath… LOL
*bert
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Comment by BERT CONVY — January 11, 2008 @ 9:22 am
Wrong again. You didn't say anything about how wonderful your guy is -- you just posted a Clinton bash.
Can you say something about Bush's accomplishments and what makes him such a wonderful president by actually saying something about HIM? Or can you only "defend" him by finding some other target and whacking it?
C'mon, you can do it -- third time's a charm!
January 11th, 2008 at 1:25 pmGod Bless GW and while we’re at it just in case the Clintons are listening… Hey scumbags, Please bring back the furniture you stole out of the White House…
I won’t hold my breath… LOL
Comment by BERT CONVY — January 11, 2008 @ 9:22 am
Even though this is completely off-topic, you should know that the "stolen furniture" rumor has been completely debunked. Even Dubya admitted there was no truth to it.
I can't get Goldstein's original article through the Kansas City Star site, but it's available on commondreams.org:
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/0518-04.htm
Did anyone notice who the rumormonger was? None other than Tony Snow, who went on to become Dubya's Press Sec.
January 11th, 2008 at 1:35 pmGod Bless GW and while we’re at it just in case the Clintons are listening… Hey scumbags, Please bring back the furniture you stole out of the White House…
I won’t hold my breath… LOL
Comment by BERT CONVY
Well, Bill Clinton was actually elected by the American people. It will take another democrat to get us out of the hell the conservatives have gotten us into....again.
January 11th, 2008 at 1:40 pm175...yeah, Fred, I noticed that too. Why the hell do we ALWAYS have to effin clean up after these damned Repukes...???
January 11th, 2008 at 1:49 pmThey also predicted that the Iraq invasion/ocupation was going to last weeks...
January 11th, 2008 at 1:55 pmsacopenapa, the problem is the time scale. A week is a long time to the freaks. Long enough time to create heaven and earth and that garden thingy.
January 11th, 2008 at 2:22 pmAnd I predict that I will be 5'7", 125 lbs. and drop dead gorgeous by the time Bush is out of office.
Dream on, Georgie!!
January 11th, 2008 at 4:07 pmWho cares what his approval rating is when he leaves office - just as long as he GOES.
January 11th, 2008 at 5:37 pmBert, maybe the Fascist Democrat that wins the election in 2008 will throw you in Gitmo and let you rot until the next R gets in the WH? Hey man, it could happen, I can see why you are scared...with all the Fascist democrats that came out to vote last week, it was 2 to 1...so you should probably move someplace more friendly to you and your Boss' kind, like Iraq or Saudi Arabia. Or Pakistan, it's real nice over there lately...and W is always sticking up for their guy Musharraf...or you can start your own crazy wingnut country and threaten to blow up other countries all the time for unfounded reasons. Think of it like the "old USA" - the good old days like it was in 2001-2208...that would be perfect for you.
January 11th, 2008 at 6:53 pm2008 - oops.
January 11th, 2008 at 6:54 pmThey think that after igniting an tinder box in Iraq to Afghanistan that now they can pull off a peace agreement between Israel and Palestine, and little :~b will go down in history as a peace maker. I say little :~b will go down in history, but I really do not desire to go down the path he's on.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:16 pmBrought to you by the republicans:
January 11th, 2008 at 10:32 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25wISP8-TVw
He's drinkin', cokin' n' mainlin'n again. Those poor Secret Service folks who have to look the other way while he drunk, strung out and stoned. He probably sends them to buy his drugs.
I wonder if he shares with the rest of the White Staff? Does he send some to an undisclosed location for Cheney and Addington. Rove used to be his supplier but Bill Bennett found out they were using e-mail to place there orders with the CIA for drugs not sold in pharmacies.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:12 am