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	<title>Comments on: Bush Disowns U.S. Intel, Tells Israelis Iran NIE &#8216;Doesn&#8217;t Reflect My Own Views&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Anton Grambihler</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/13/bush-israelis-nie/comment-page-6/#comment-4228266</link>
		<dc:creator>Anton Grambihler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does President Bush know that Israel invaded its neighbors and still occupies the invaded land and has built illegal settlements on that land?

Does he know that Israel is in violation of International Law, United Nations Resolutions, and treats the Palestine people inhumanly?

Does he know that Israel has unregulated non-conventional weapons yet the United States is giving over 3 billion dollars in aid to Israel again this year?

The Palestine people are the ones suffering from the Israeli invasion, why is the United States providing aid to Israel instead of the Palestine people?

Is President Bush continuing the work of his Grandfather Prescott Bush?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does President Bush know that Israel invaded its neighbors and still occupies the invaded land and has built illegal settlements on that land?</p>
<p>Does he know that Israel is in violation of International Law, United Nations Resolutions, and treats the Palestine people inhumanly?</p>
<p>Does he know that Israel has unregulated non-conventional weapons yet the United States is giving over 3 billion dollars in aid to Israel again this year?</p>
<p>The Palestine people are the ones suffering from the Israeli invasion, why is the United States providing aid to Israel instead of the Palestine people?</p>
<p>Is President Bush continuing the work of his Grandfather Prescott Bush?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4228266', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: civil behavior</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/13/bush-israelis-nie/comment-page-6/#comment-4227530</link>
		<dc:creator>civil behavior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bartlebee,

  I&#039;m not looking to win a popularity contest.  


 I&#039;m trying to get others to realize the stakes.  

 We just sold our house.

 Now instead of continuing to try to get others to realize the stakes we are going to leave the mainland.  

I will watch from far away as the inaction of the people allows further disintegration of the planet.

I will walk away knowing I did everything I possibly could to wake people from their slumber.  I will live out my last years watching as the planet tries to have corrupt criminals  substitute for that which they should do themselves.


Very simply, the enemy is us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bartlebee,</p>
<p>  I&#8217;m not looking to win a popularity contest.  </p>
<p> I&#8217;m trying to get others to realize the stakes.  </p>
<p> We just sold our house.</p>
<p> Now instead of continuing to try to get others to realize the stakes we are going to leave the mainland.  </p>
<p>I will watch from far away as the inaction of the people allows further disintegration of the planet.</p>
<p>I will walk away knowing I did everything I possibly could to wake people from their slumber.  I will live out my last years watching as the planet tries to have corrupt criminals  substitute for that which they should do themselves.</p>
<p>Very simply, the enemy is us.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4227530', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: NCBlueneck</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/13/bush-israelis-nie/comment-page-6/#comment-4227310</link>
		<dc:creator>NCBlueneck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 15:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This must be another one of those things that &quot;Commander Guy&quot; feels in his guts.  I just feel nausea...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This must be another one of those things that &#8220;Commander Guy&#8221; feels in his guts.  I just feel nausea&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4227310', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jericho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jericho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush has his &#039;own views&#039; on National Intelligence? Sorry, but I&#039;m not even confident that the thief-in-chief can out-smart myself (a Belgian) on &#039;life at the ranch&#039;. I think I&#039;ll pass on whatever &#039;intelligence&#039; this cook has for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush has his &#8216;own views&#8217; on National Intelligence? Sorry, but I&#8217;m not even confident that the thief-in-chief can out-smart myself (a Belgian) on &#8216;life at the ranch&#8217;. I think I&#8217;ll pass on whatever &#8216;intelligence&#8217; this cook has for us.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4227110', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: civil behavior</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/13/bush-israelis-nie/comment-page-6/#comment-4226766</link>
		<dc:creator>civil behavior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 03:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juan C.

 You get it.

  And being called lazy asses is hardly far from the truth.  How many large protests have we seen from the masses since this war started?

 Bart,

I come on this blog, infrequently.  On Saturdays I am normally out standing against traffic trying to get these lazy asses off their phones and out of their cars.  How lucky do you think I&#039;ve been? 

Any time I am in line with people at the market or post office or gas station I am talking to them about the election or gas prices or climate change or the war.  How much do you think people care??

I attend every special event hosted by the local party trying to get the populous fired up.  How energetic do you think they are??

I AM doing the street thing.........all by myself.

A long time ago many of us stood in the streets and proved we could change things.  Today is much different.


 This is an extememly dangerous situation in this country getting worse by the day and no one wants to stand up and out and take a risk.

WHY?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juan C.</p>
<p> You get it.</p>
<p>  And being called lazy asses is hardly far from the truth.  How many large protests have we seen from the masses since this war started?</p>
<p> Bart,</p>
<p>I come on this blog, infrequently.  On Saturdays I am normally out standing against traffic trying to get these lazy asses off their phones and out of their cars.  How lucky do you think I&#8217;ve been? </p>
<p>Any time I am in line with people at the market or post office or gas station I am talking to them about the election or gas prices or climate change or the war.  How much do you think people care??</p>
<p>I attend every special event hosted by the local party trying to get the populous fired up.  How energetic do you think they are??</p>
<p>I AM doing the street thing&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;all by myself.</p>
<p>A long time ago many of us stood in the streets and proved we could change things.  Today is much different.</p>
<p> This is an extememly dangerous situation in this country getting worse by the day and no one wants to stand up and out and take a risk.</p>
<p>WHY?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4226766', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Juan C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juan C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 02:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Like I said, all I see you doing is sitting in a blog, talking.
Comment by BARTLEBEE &lt;/em&gt;

But I think he has a point, Bart. I think self-criticism is a huge part of being progressive. We may not like being called lazy asses, but that doesn&#039;t change the fact that any important display of dissent, will open the ruling class eyes. Nobody stops millions of people marching on the streets...nobody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Like I said, all I see you doing is sitting in a blog, talking.<br />
Comment by BARTLEBEE </em></p>
<p>But I think he has a point, Bart. I think self-criticism is a huge part of being progressive. We may not like being called lazy asses, but that doesn&#8217;t change the fact that any important display of dissent, will open the ruling class eyes. Nobody stops millions of people marching on the streets&#8230;nobody.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4226728', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MCMetal</title>
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		<dc:creator>MCMetal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would anyone give a rat&#039;s ass what an unintelligible moron who cannot even form back-to-back coherent sentences has to say about anything , much less that he knows more about Iran and its intentions than our own intelligence community does ..................?

What&#039;s next ?

Music critic with articles posted in Rolling Stone magazine ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would anyone give a rat&#8217;s ass what an unintelligible moron who cannot even form back-to-back coherent sentences has to say about anything , much less that he knows more about Iran and its intentions than our own intelligence community does &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s next ?</p>
<p>Music critic with articles posted in Rolling Stone magazine ?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4226700', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: betz55</title>
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		<dc:creator>betz55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, this article is just to rich not to comment. Let&#039;s start with some choice quotes shall we? First: &quot;Iran is threatening the security of the world&quot;-translation-after just coming from Israel this is surely Israel rhetoric.How is Iran &quot;threatening&quot; the US? Second:&quot;Iran funds terrorist extremists, undermines stability in Lebanon, sends arms to the hardline Taliban regime, intimidates its neighbors with alarming rhetoric and defies the United Nations by refusing to be open about its nuclear program.&quot;-translation-Iran is the ONLY country that does these things? Surely not the US and ISRAEL? right? Third:&quot;Iran is the world&#039;s leading state sponsor of terror&quot;.-oh this one is rich. Didn&#039;t we here this about Iraq? As if you can pinpoint &quot;terror&quot;. No mention of Bin Laden in there. Again rhetoric from Israel. In fact the entire article and entire speech smack of proxy rhetoric and dogma about and for Israel. I hope those listening to it were thinking &quot;when do we eat&quot; and &quot;god, I have to go the bathroom&quot; and &quot;this speech is making me sick and I think I am going to vomit right here&quot;. What a total load of bullshit. How can anyone, anywhere believe this a**hole whose time has definetly come.
Of course Israel didn&#039;t like the NIE, they thought they had it in the bag and were blindsided. Too bad ! The US should cut all aid to Israel as quickly as possible. The US should stop letting Israel define Middle East foreign policy for the US. The US should stop fighting proxy wars for Israel. Until Israel stops their warmonger, aggressive, belligerent, apartheid treatment of the Palestinians and their neighbors, and recognition of a Palestinian state there should be sanctions against them, inspections by the IAEA, full disclosure on settlement activity, all aid cut off, and recognition that Israel is the rogue state that it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, this article is just to rich not to comment. Let&#8217;s start with some choice quotes shall we? First: &#8220;Iran is threatening the security of the world&#8221;-translation-after just coming from Israel this is surely Israel rhetoric.How is Iran &#8220;threatening&#8221; the US? Second:&#8221;Iran funds terrorist extremists, undermines stability in Lebanon, sends arms to the hardline Taliban regime, intimidates its neighbors with alarming rhetoric and defies the United Nations by refusing to be open about its nuclear program.&#8221;-translation-Iran is the ONLY country that does these things? Surely not the US and ISRAEL? right? Third:&#8221;Iran is the world&#8217;s leading state sponsor of terror&#8221;.-oh this one is rich. Didn&#8217;t we here this about Iraq? As if you can pinpoint &#8220;terror&#8221;. No mention of Bin Laden in there. Again rhetoric from Israel. In fact the entire article and entire speech smack of proxy rhetoric and dogma about and for Israel. I hope those listening to it were thinking &#8220;when do we eat&#8221; and &#8220;god, I have to go the bathroom&#8221; and &#8220;this speech is making me sick and I think I am going to vomit right here&#8221;. What a total load of bullshit. How can anyone, anywhere believe this a**hole whose time has definetly come.<br />
Of course Israel didn&#8217;t like the NIE, they thought they had it in the bag and were blindsided. Too bad ! The US should cut all aid to Israel as quickly as possible. The US should stop letting Israel define Middle East foreign policy for the US. The US should stop fighting proxy wars for Israel. Until Israel stops their warmonger, aggressive, belligerent, apartheid treatment of the Palestinians and their neighbors, and recognition of a Palestinian state there should be sanctions against them, inspections by the IAEA, full disclosure on settlement activity, all aid cut off, and recognition that Israel is the rogue state that it is.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4226690', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: glenjo</title>
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		<dc:creator>glenjo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 00:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m going to have to agree with President Bush.  It&#039;s really difficult to have the same view as ANYTHING in the rest of the world when you have your head jammed that far up your a$$!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m going to have to agree with President Bush.  It&#8217;s really difficult to have the same view as ANYTHING in the rest of the world when you have your head jammed that far up your a$$!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4226657', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ucsbclassics53</title>
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		<dc:creator>ucsbclassics53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 23:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the only time wingnuts like Bush show any critical thought, when something comes up that contradicts their delusional worldview...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the only time wingnuts like Bush show any critical thought, when something comes up that contradicts their delusional worldview&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4226606', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: zuch</title>
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		<dc:creator>zuch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 23:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;After the recent National Intelligence Estimate on Iran was released, Israel publicly challenged the U.S. intelligence consensus that Iran had stopped its nuclear weapons program. â€œIn our opinion,â€ Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak said, Iran â€œhas apparently continued that program.â€&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, irony is dead when Dubya stands next to &lt;i&gt;Ohmert&lt;/i&gt;, and preaches about the dangers of Middle-East states who might secretly be developing nu-kyu-luh weapons....  Makes one suspect there&#039;s even &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt; intelligence that Dubya&#039;s not &quot;up to speed&quot; on.

Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>After the recent National Intelligence Estimate on Iran was released, Israel publicly challenged the U.S. intelligence consensus that Iran had stopped its nuclear weapons program. â€œIn our opinion,â€ Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak said, Iran â€œhas apparently continued that program.â€</i></p>
<p>Yeah, irony is dead when Dubya stands next to <i>Ohmert</i>, and preaches about the dangers of Middle-East states who might secretly be developing nu-kyu-luh weapons&#8230;.  Makes one suspect there&#8217;s even <i>more</i> intelligence that Dubya&#8217;s not &#8220;up to speed&#8221; on.</p>
<p>Cheers,<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4226599', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bogtrotters</title>
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		<dc:creator>bogtrotters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 23:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>261.  Yes, they are!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>261.  Yes, they are!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4226574', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bogtrotters</title>
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		<dc:creator>bogtrotters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 23:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New York Times book review on Neoconservatism today noted that Neos, as a group, don&#039;t want to be bothered with empirical evidence; they act only on ideology, which includes a world dominated by the United States.  What a perfect fit for our faith-based Presidente!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New York Times book review on Neoconservatism today noted that Neos, as a group, don&#8217;t want to be bothered with empirical evidence; they act only on ideology, which includes a world dominated by the United States.  What a perfect fit for our faith-based Presidente!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4226572', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Cabeza de Vaca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cabeza de Vaca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 23:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>musings,

I&#039;ll go along with that but I also want all tax deductions for donations to Israel to stop immediately.  That includes Federal and State.  Yes even here in Illinois the state gives a break to Israeli donations.

And let&#039;s stop giving all this aid to Israel.  Thirty billion a year equates to $100/capita in the US for (assume 10 million Israeli&#039;s and I&#039;m being generous) yields $3,000/capita.  Nothing short of outrageous!

No wonder John Stewart wondered if Bush had a kosher ass.  Why wonder!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>musings,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll go along with that but I also want all tax deductions for donations to Israel to stop immediately.  That includes Federal and State.  Yes even here in Illinois the state gives a break to Israeli donations.</p>
<p>And let&#8217;s stop giving all this aid to Israel.  Thirty billion a year equates to $100/capita in the US for (assume 10 million Israeli&#8217;s and I&#8217;m being generous) yields $3,000/capita.  Nothing short of outrageous!</p>
<p>No wonder John Stewart wondered if Bush had a kosher ass.  Why wonder!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4226571', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: civil behavior</title>
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		<dc:creator>civil behavior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dropping in to see how this thread has gone.

Bartlebee, j
in answer to your reply.......

Your statement:&lt;em&gt;Well in case you hadnâ€™t noticed, Americans do protest. Only under republican rule they donâ€™t get to do it as much, mostly thanks to homeland defense powers given to civil authority, which scares off a lot of good Americans from protesting.&lt;/em&gt;  
My answer:The only thing that scares people off from taking action is their own laziness  to get involved.  They&#039;re too busy with their own small lives to look at the big picture.  Problem is the big picture is killing them.  A small protest here and there isn&#039;t going to do squat.  MILLIONS in the streets wearing orange on a weekly basis in the largest city close to them.......MILLIONS.

Your statement: &lt;em&gt;And also in case you hadnâ€™t noticed, we have a system that does work.&lt;/em&gt;
My answer:  You know as well as I do that is no longer true.  It hasn&#039;t worlked for quite awhile.  No need to pretend.  It&#039;s one of the reasons why we are experiencing the fall of the empire.  The plutocrats own the govt not the people.   The system broke a long time ago and gets worse by the day.

 Your statement:  &lt;em&gt;Sometimes democracy is not as fast as you little third world countries would like, but thats how we keep the US from becoming a Bananna Republic, like you undoubtably reside in.&lt;/em&gt;  

My answer:  I live in the USA.  I&#039;m just honest about where we are.  You might try getting yourself a bright orange vest and see what you might be able to do next week beyond the keyboard.  Without a mass movement all you&#039;ll see is a constant march towards the New World Order.  Try being honest with yourself and I think you&#039;ll agree.  This has nothing to do with my opinion but everything to do with whether or not Americans are willing to become good little Germans.  My bet is that detentions are not too far in the future.  In the meantime I&#039;m busily selling everything we own and getting the heck out.  

Without people en masse you are a lone voice at a keyboard.</description>
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<p>Bartlebee, j<br />
in answer to your reply&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Your statement:<em>Well in case you hadnâ€™t noticed, Americans do protest. Only under republican rule they donâ€™t get to do it as much, mostly thanks to homeland defense powers given to civil authority, which scares off a lot of good Americans from protesting.</em><br />
My answer:The only thing that scares people off from taking action is their own laziness  to get involved.  They&#8217;re too busy with their own small lives to look at the big picture.  Problem is the big picture is killing them.  A small protest here and there isn&#8217;t going to do squat.  MILLIONS in the streets wearing orange on a weekly basis in the largest city close to them&#8230;&#8230;.MILLIONS.</p>
<p>Your statement: <em>And also in case you hadnâ€™t noticed, we have a system that does work.</em><br />
My answer:  You know as well as I do that is no longer true.  It hasn&#8217;t worlked for quite awhile.  No need to pretend.  It&#8217;s one of the reasons why we are experiencing the fall of the empire.  The plutocrats own the govt not the people.   The system broke a long time ago and gets worse by the day.</p>
<p> Your statement:  <em>Sometimes democracy is not as fast as you little third world countries would like, but thats how we keep the US from becoming a Bananna Republic, like you undoubtably reside in.</em>  </p>
<p>My answer:  I live in the USA.  I&#8217;m just honest about where we are.  You might try getting yourself a bright orange vest and see what you might be able to do next week beyond the keyboard.  Without a mass movement all you&#8217;ll see is a constant march towards the New World Order.  Try being honest with yourself and I think you&#8217;ll agree.  This has nothing to do with my opinion but everything to do with whether or not Americans are willing to become good little Germans.  My bet is that detentions are not too far in the future.  In the meantime I&#8217;m busily selling everything we own and getting the heck out.  </p>
<p>Without people en masse you are a lone voice at a keyboard.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4226526', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dietrich</title>
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		<dc:creator>dietrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s  interesting to see bushbaby to &quot;spread freedom&quot; around the world. it&#039;s also a little scary.
Hey Nancy impeach before he kills us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s  interesting to see bushbaby to &#8220;spread freedom&#8221; around the world. it&#8217;s also a little scary.<br />
Hey Nancy impeach before he kills us all.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4226498', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shlomo1</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/13/bush-israelis-nie/comment-page-6/#comment-4226483</link>
		<dc:creator>Shlomo1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m thinking the &quot;before it&#039;s too late&quot; aspect has more to do with Bush&#039;s running out of time as President. Got to &quot;git er dunn&quot; before he retires to Paraguay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m thinking the &#8220;before it&#8217;s too late&#8221; aspect has more to do with Bush&#8217;s running out of time as President. Got to &#8220;git er dunn&#8221; before he retires to Paraguay.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4226483', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Krazny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krazny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think anyone in the middle east is crazy enough to use a nuke. A single weapon, would unleash a hell, that would not only destroy the holiest places for 3 major religions, but would destroy the majority of middle eastern culture, and create an economic crisis, that would make the great depression look like nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone in the middle east is crazy enough to use a nuke. A single weapon, would unleash a hell, that would not only destroy the holiest places for 3 major religions, but would destroy the majority of middle eastern culture, and create an economic crisis, that would make the great depression look like nothing.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4226482', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Juan C.</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/13/bush-israelis-nie/comment-page-6/#comment-4226478</link>
		<dc:creator>Juan C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred, it&#039;s ok. No apologies, please. I feel like someone important. I&#039;m not. 

Bart, for the life of me, I can&#039;t believe you actually help to solve a conflict instead of making it bigger. ;)

Nahhh, you are a nice people whether you want to show sometimes or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred, it&#8217;s ok. No apologies, please. I feel like someone important. I&#8217;m not. </p>
<p>Bart, for the life of me, I can&#8217;t believe you actually help to solve a conflict instead of making it bigger. ;)</p>
<p>Nahhh, you are a nice people whether you want to show sometimes or not.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4226478', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: sacopenapa</title>
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		<dc:creator>sacopenapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WAR ON DEMOCRACY, a film by John Pilger. YOUTUBE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WAR ON DEMOCRACY, a film by John Pilger. YOUTUBE!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4226475', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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