Snow Shrugs Off Post-War Failures: ‘Everybody Gets It Wrong At The Beginning Of A War’
Snow Shrugs Off Post-War Failures: ‘Everybody Gets It Wrong At The Beginning Of A War’
On Friday, former White House spokesperson Tony Snow was interviewed on HBO’s Real Time with Bill Maher.
Maher discussed how woefully unprepared the Bush administration was for post-invasion Iraq. “People paid in blood for him to learn” that more troops were needed for post-Saddam Iraq, Maher said to applause and cheers from the audience. “Even if this did work,” he said, referring to the surge.
Snow tried to shrug off Maher’s statements, declaring that “everybody gets it wrong at the beginning of war”:
MAHER: In fact, the smarter people in his administration said to do just that. “We need more boots on the ground. We need more security.” But because he’s stubborn and stupid, he said, “No, let’s do it Rumsfeld’s way. Let’s do it the light way.” So it took him five years to come around to what should have been done five years ago. And — and while he was learning on the job, people paid for that in blood. […]
SNOW: Well, wait a minute. Look, I don’t know where to start, but I’ll start at the beginning. Number one, when it comes to the war, everybody — it’s great to be a backseat general, and everybody gets it wrong at the beginning of a war. But there were plenty of — no, it’s true.
Watch a portion of the show here:
Snow added, “I think it’s impossible for anybody to get their arms around the whole thing. Anybody.” “Including the administration?” responded Mark Cuban. “Including you, me, yeah,” said Snow.
Snow seems to believe that no one could have predicted that fallout from the invasion, an attempt to exonerate the administration’s rosy view of post-invasion Iraq. Rolling Stone’s Matt Taibbi responded, “I didn’t get it wrong. We shouldn’t have gone.”
Not everyone got it wrong — just everyone in the Bush administration did.
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Snow looked healthier than he has in years. Whose blood did he drain and appropriate?
January 13th, 2008 at 1:36 pmTony Snowjob hasn’t lost his ability to dominate a discussion with revisionism and porpaganda. Maher let him go, Taibbi called him on his b.s. more than once.
January 13th, 2008 at 1:37 pm#1, badmoonman,
January 13th, 2008 at 1:39 pmThe sulphur emanating from Cheney’s office has a deleterious effect on one’s health. Snow’s color has improved since he got some fresh air. Sorry to say that his miserable defense of Bush&Co has not diminished.
There were plenty of people that predicted what would happen… including Dick Cheney in what was it? 1992? Dang. I left that clip in my other pants….
oops. Nope 1994. Hey, I found it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BEsZMvrq-I
January 13th, 2008 at 1:41 pmit’s great to be a backseat general, and everybody gets it wrong at the beginning of a war.
Says one of the backseat generals in this disastrous “war”, whose leader got it wrong during the planning, the beginning, the carrying, and everything else related to the occupation of Iraq.
And no, not “everyone gets it wrong at the beginning of a war”. Only the incompetent do. Like this administration.
January 13th, 2008 at 1:41 pmwell let’s not forget ex-lax, he still gets it wrong.
and he’ll be here soon to get wrong some more.
eh?
January 13th, 2008 at 1:43 pmBurn in hell, Tony.
January 13th, 2008 at 1:44 pm“I think it’s impossible for anybody to get their arms around the whole thing.”
If this administration really thought the above is true, they shouldn’t have thought about launching an occupation of a country half the world away.
“Greeted as liberators” indeed.
January 13th, 2008 at 1:45 pmWait, Real Time is back? Isn’t there still a strike going on?
January 13th, 2008 at 1:50 pmTony is inaccurate. . . plenty of admin officials, cheney, rumsfeld, predicted a short and successful “war.” Oil money to pay for the expense, democracy running wild and bush loved around the world. Needless to say, none of their idealism was based in reality.
January 13th, 2008 at 1:51 pm‘Everybody Gets It Wrong At The Beginning Of A War’
I agree. You got it wrong by not going in there to get your ass blown up.
January 13th, 2008 at 1:52 pmBurn in hell, Tony.
Comment by Zooey — January 13, 2008 @ 1:44 pm
That pretty much sums it up. These sycophantic lunatics are beyond belief. Making excuses as to why this administration should be justified in illegally invading a sovereign nation and murdering 800,000+ Iraqi civilians as well as thousands of American troops; everybody gets it wrong at the beginning?
To what Mephisto did monsters like Snow sell their shriveled souls?
January 13th, 2008 at 1:52 pmReal Time’s opening monologue was done by Maher himself - the guests, of course are not scripted. He didn’t do his usual mid-show comedy (with mock-ups), nor did he do his “new rules” commentary at the end. He expressed how he missed his writers.
January 13th, 2008 at 1:53 pmDick Cheney circa 1991: “The notion that we ought to now go to Baghdad and somehow take control of the country strikes me as as an extremely serious one in terms of what we’d have to do once we got there. You’d probably have to put some new government in place. It’s not clear what kind of government that would be, how long you’d have to stay. For the U.S. to get involved militarily in determining the outcome of the struggle over who’s going to govern in Iraq strikes me as a classic definition of a quagmire.” Source
January 13th, 2008 at 2:00 pmWait, Real Time is back? Isn’t there still a strike going on?
January 13th, 2008 at 2:04 pmUmmm, what happened to the REST of my post?
January 13th, 2008 at 2:05 pmI’ll be off in the ether tracking it down…..Carrion…..
January 13th, 2008 at 2:06 pmThe BushCo apologist’s favorite tactic: when you’re proven wrong, claim that EVERYBODY was wrong, so there’s no reason to expect that you should have been right anyway.
January 13th, 2008 at 2:09 pmThis is the difference between Maher and Stewart/Colbert.
When Maher has on these buttlicks like Tony Snow, he gives them the shit they deserve, while Stewart/Colbert just kiss the buttlicks butt.
January 13th, 2008 at 2:12 pmThey’re still playing that game when everyone who’s job it was to know better, told them this was exactly how things would turn out. Those people have been replaced or resigned in disgust. All that’s left of the military brass are people who will do what Bush says and support it no matter how wrong it turns out to be. I don’t know about any of you, but that scares the crap out of me.
Until Bush and Cheney are out of the Whitehouse (and someone more reasonable is in) I’m making sure I know the shortest route to Canada, in case I need to use it.
January 13th, 2008 at 2:16 pmEven Dick Cheney of the 90’s knew what was going to happen. I was yelling at the teevee when this was on for someone, anyone, to remember about Dead-eye Dick.
January 13th, 2008 at 2:19 pmI didn’t get it wrong either. It was obvious from the start that the US should not have invaded Iraq. Now, the boy Bush is trying to gather support for war with Iran while he is on his peace mission in the Middle East. What the little boy doesn’t understand is that Iran can makes deals with any of these nations and these nations will side with Iran. These nations know that Iran will bomb them if the idiot boy bombs Iran. It’s a no brainer to everyone except to the fool in the White House, GWB.
January 13th, 2008 at 2:31 pmStill getting it wrong after five years.
Arming the Sunni Awakening councils may provide temporary relief against the AQI, but it will fuel the conflict with the Shiia downstream.
No good answer except to di mau di and let them sort it out the way they have for millenia.
January 13th, 2008 at 2:34 pmWATERBOARD TONNY SNOW! TO SHOW HIM HOW WRONG THE WAR CRIMINALS IN THE WH GOT IT!
January 13th, 2008 at 2:35 pmI said it would be a quagmire, because the same conditions existed that were in effect, after we left Iraq when Desert Storm was over.
The same facts Cheney gave back in 91. If we invaded and took him out the sunni, shiite situation would turn Iraq into a quagmire.
Either Cheney knew, or he was just spouting what everyone else was telling him then, or he is doing different drugs now.
I also knew we were fcked when Bush got (s)elected. And Bush is still busy fcking away this country with neither a condom or vasoline.
January 13th, 2008 at 2:41 pmIt was obvious from the start that the US should not have invaded Iraq.
Comment by Cats r Flyfishn
Exactly the point.
We shouldn’t even be lulled into the premise that any invasion was justified, more troops or not.
∞
January 13th, 2008 at 2:41 pmA War of Agression is a crime under International Law! The Iraq and Afeganistan invasion and occupation is illegal. Now the War Criminals in the WH and the Pentagon are planing another war with Iran…
This is from a John Pilger’s article: Unlike Israel and the United States, Iran has abided by the rules of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, of which it was an original signatory and has allowed routine inspections under its legal obligations – until gratuitous, punitive measures were added in 2003, at the behest of Washington. No report by the International Atomic Energy Agency has ever cited Iran for diverting its civilian nuclear program to military use. The IAEA has said that for most of the past three years its inspectors have been able to “go anywhere and see anything.” They inspected the nuclear installations at Isfahan and Natanz on 10 and 12 January and will return on 2 to 6 February. The head of the IAEA, Mohamed El-Baradei says that an attack on Iran will have “catastrophic consequences” and only encourage the regime to become a nuclear power.
Unlike its two nemeses, the US and Israel, Iran has attacked no other countries. It last went to war in 1980 when invaded by Saddam Hussein, who was backed and equipped by the US, which supplied chemical and biological weapons produced at a factory in Maryland. Unlike Israel, the world’s fifth military power with thermonuclear weapons aimed at Middle-East targets, an unmatched record of defying UN resolutions and the enforcer of the world’s longest illegal occupation, Iran has a history of obeying international law and occupies no territory other than its own. I couldn’t possibly say it any better!
January 13th, 2008 at 2:50 pmINDICT; IMPEACH; IMPRISON BUSH/CHENNEY AND THEIR JUNTA.
WAR ON DEMOCRACY , a film by John Pilger. YOUTUBE!
January 13th, 2008 at 2:59 pmWay to owe up to the mistakes, and take responsibility. I find it humorous, that republicans are all about fiscal restraint, and personal responsibility except when it comes to actually governing.
January 13th, 2008 at 3:10 pmAs with McCain and Lie-berman, the same principle applies: Tony Snow spoke. Ipso facto, he lied. Enough said.
January 13th, 2008 at 3:10 pmCancer or no cancer Tony Snow is a Facist phu(kwad LYIN’ CO(KSU(KER from Davidson COLLEGE!! Just another Bushite MORON!!!
You would think that surviving a sometimes mortal illness, as all the well wishes from both sides of the political spectrum, would have helped this vampire reform just a touch!!
Nope, that’s why I’m now pulling for the cancer!!! Why does Tony Snow hate America?? Ask his cancer!! This GRINCH will never find his heart!!
January 13th, 2008 at 3:13 pmTonny Snow should be taken to Bagdad and left there alone in its streets…
January 13th, 2008 at 3:41 pmWATERBOARD TONY SNOW!!!!
January 13th, 2008 at 3:42 pmA child sitting at the adult’s table.
January 13th, 2008 at 3:44 pmplease, save the hate and cancer cheap shots.
January 13th, 2008 at 3:45 pmThe studios are using the “force majeure” clause to cancel contracts that have been signed where no product is available to air. My guess is they are threatening to cancel the contracts of people like Maher, Stewart, Colbert and Leno if they don’t offer up something to air.
January 13th, 2008 at 3:47 pmAs Americans we need to look back and assess the job which our elected representatives did. If we like the job they did then we should re-elect them. If we did not like the job they did then we need to find new leadership. The news media should be helping us with this effort, but instead seem largely like a hindrance.
Term limits ensure that we will select a new President this year. Every voter should decide whether they want more of the same or if it’s time to plot a new course. Rest assured that every (serious) Republican candidate promises more of the same. Every Democratic candidate offers a new course.
January 13th, 2008 at 3:50 pmI watched this show and was amazed. Tony Snow is arrogant and condescending to everybody who doesn’t agree with his well-rehearsed talking points. He doesn’t say anything that isn’t in the script, remains “snarky” the entire time and when somebody points out the flaws in his argument he accuses them of changing the topic when they didn’t and being “snarky”, his word not mine.
January 13th, 2008 at 3:54 pm#41 - I wish it were true that “Every Democratic candidate offers a new course”, yet recent history shows that there are little differences b/t the parties.
January 13th, 2008 at 3:56 pmI guess since Maher lost his ABC job he’s a little more cautious than he used to be. Tony Snow did a Rudy Guilliani and brought up his cancer at least 4 times either believing the show was about him or using it as a shield to protect himself from warrented “attack”. Matt Taibbi from Rolling Stone called him on it and Tony pounced like he was still holding court in the White House and could have him bounced from the press room. Tony’s main argument is that if anybody has a way that is guaranteed to solve the Iraq problem they should speak up. Isn’t the President the guy who is supposed to find solutions without our help?
January 13th, 2008 at 4:07 pmSnow wasn’t part of the group because he wasnt working in the WH when the war began…
Hes irrelevent.
January 13th, 2008 at 4:10 pmThat woman judge let Tony have it too and was interrupted for her trouble. Maher didn’t stop Snow from jumping on the others. The last time I remember him wimping out like this was when Tucker Carlson, that buttwad, was on.
January 13th, 2008 at 4:17 pmIn watching the Snowjob on Maher’s show, I was struck by just how much he is like the character Bill Lumbergh in the movie “Office Space” (as played by Gary Cole). He’s just as creepy, and just as inane. Snowjob is a right wing hack, with that classic “never say die, even when you’re dead” approach to every topic of discussion he takes part in. Condescension, arrogance and insult being the lynch pins of his verbal assault style.
And I am also struck by how seldom Bill or his guests call sociopaths like Snowjob on their self-serving distortions and outright, bald-faced lies. Snowjob uses the classic neo-con method of starting a comment with a totally specious assumption that has no basis in fact, and then proceeds as if it’s a given that it’s true and there’s no need to even question it’s veracity. More often than not, it works, and the topic of conversation goes off on a Snowjob designed tangent that is also a lie, and/or just loaded with presumptive circular logic.
Simply put, Herr Snowjob is a vile pile.
January 13th, 2008 at 4:18 pmSclomo1, it’s also known as Rovespeak after the vilest pile.
January 13th, 2008 at 4:24 pmGod, everytime someone says something like that it paints us all in a bad light.
I’m not pulling for his cancer. I despise the man but I don’t wish death on him, just that he be fired in disgrace and his boss impeached and brought up for Constitutional crimes and war crimes.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 13, 2008 @ 3:45 pm
I wished him well. He wishes my country bad! He LIES!! He hates the working people!! He’s an elitist!! He took my best wishes and squandered them!!!
Phu(k him!! When are you going to fight fire with fire?? Manners is the friend of the powerful. It’s used to keep outrage at bay and society civil.
Sometimes incivility is appropriate!!!
There’s sh|tloads of BLOOD on his hands….BLOOD of the innocent!!!
Go ahead, be polite and make me the fool!!
Roll over Rover!!
January 13th, 2008 at 4:29 pmComment by BARTLEBEE — January 13, 2008 @ 3:45 pm
Maybe I see Tony Snow as a Hitler. Wanna stop my ill wishes now?
January 13th, 2008 at 4:31 pmSnow wasn’t part of the group because he wasnt working in the WH when the war began…
Hes irrelevent.
Comment by Xisithrus — January 13, 2008 @ 4:10 pm
BS!
Before he went to the WH he was warmongering RePugniScum Ghoul-Aid guzzler!!!
He is a part of the problem!!! He is not “irrelevent!”
January 13th, 2008 at 4:36 pmWell, last time I checked, you’re in a blog, talking about it, just like me.
And I can only assume thats because you, like me, know our democracy works, and will work to remove the cancers like Bush and Cheney that might occasionally develop.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 13, 2008 @ 4:33 pm
BARTLEBEE,
I DO NOT “know our democracy works, and will work to remove the cancers like Bush and Cheney that might occasionally develop.” At this point that’s pure speculation!
I believe I’m living in a facist country run by corporations and the super rich who control the media and put assh0les like Tony Snow on the air and hire him at the GW Botch WH for very real specific reasons. To LIE and lead this country into the Third-World!!!!
January 13th, 2008 at 4:43 pmPerhaps you’d do better in Uganda.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 13, 2008 @ 4:33 pm
I sided with the “cancer” and you called my out.
Then you suggest I should live in Uganda?
Consistent much??
January 13th, 2008 at 4:45 pmWell at this point Paul Revere, all I see you doing is talking in a blog.
Like the rest of us.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 13, 2008 @ 4:45 pm
Proof positive I live in a democracy….yeah…right..uuhh..
Let’s start with stolen elections and your democracy thing…and fixed election machines!!!
January 13th, 2008 at 4:48 pmCancer jokes tend to be not too popular.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 13, 2008 @ 4:50 pm
I know. I’m NOT joking. Facism is the enemy within and Tony Snowjob is a Fascist! As are most RePugniScums!!!
Answer my Hitler question. If I consider Tony to be like Hitler should I not wish for his demise??
If I see him as a particpant in an illegal war should I NOT wish him executed by cancer for his crimes??
How should war criminals die? At the hands of cancer (god?)
Or by the hands of man?
January 13th, 2008 at 4:56 pmThere is not a Bush Republican alive who believes in doing things right the FIRST time. That would place a greater value on effectiveness than on good intentions. That would require foresight, preparation, intelligence, competence and the ability to accept constructive criticism and contradictory advice. By the time a Bush Republican realizes he’s/she’s made a mistake, it’s too late to undo the damage and accept the fact they are responsible for causing it. Mistakes that result in destruction, death and failure are too politically damaging for them to admit, so they just keep digging themselves into a deeper and deeper hole until time or chance bails them out or buries them completely. Even when they are buried completely, they still desperately cling to the self-protecting delusions of virtue. The reason Bush Republicans are such relentless liars is because in order to survive their arrogance, ignorance and incompetence, they have to lie to themselves every minute of every day in order to preserve their sanity. They make their own reality because the real world has standards of performance and accountability too high for them to meet.
January 13th, 2008 at 5:02 pmWhy are some people such tools?
January 13th, 2008 at 5:04 pmLets not. This thread is about Tony Snow Claiming “no one could have predicted our current situation in Iraqâ€.
Our democracy is not perfected yet, that is for sure. It is tainted and it is flawed at times and in various ways and we are ever working to perfect it.
After almost a century Abraham Lincoln didn’t call for a “perfect unionâ€, but a “more perfect unionâ€.
I agree our democracy is a work in progress, but it is nonetheless a work in progress, and is thus intact.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 13, 2008 @ 4:54 pm
I agree with everything there except the “thus intact.”
Let’s agree on this. You see a positive, healing nature in our country and democracy and I see a stolen democracy. Stolen by the rich and corporations.
I do really DO HOPE YOU ARE RIGHT!!!!
January 13th, 2008 at 5:05 pmThe truth is all we need. If enough people see it, then no lie will stand for long.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 13, 2008 @ 4:57 pm
That’s true and it assumes the people get the “truth.” Where would that “truth” originate from in this WH?
If the people are poisoned by the MSM and can’t find or understand the truth then democracy is dying.
January 13th, 2008 at 5:12 pmHow callous of Snow to glibly remark: Nobody gets it right at the beginning of a war! Let him tell that to the families of our 4,000 military dead, hundreds of thousands with permanent injury, and well over 100,000 innocent Iraqis! What hubris!
The fact of the matter is: Bush lied us into this war with Tony Snow as an “accomplice”. This is not about getting an estimate wrong; this is about overt lies and manipulation of the facts here, folks.
This is criminal. To intentionally lie and fabricate a pretext for the illegal invasion of a sovereign nation is an international war crime, crime against humanity with the casualties, and Snowjob smirks about how difficult it is to “get it right”??
He’s a disgusting, inconsiderate buffoon who “aided and abetted” the lie for which Bush & Cheney will someday be tried by an international tribunal and I think he’s just added himself to the long list of “accomplices” of their crime with this statement….that is, if Snowjob lives long enough to experience it.
January 13th, 2008 at 5:13 pmAnswer my Hitler question. If I consider Tony to be like Hitler should I not wish for his demise??
Comment by dixie blood — January 13, 2008 @ 4:56 pm
I did answer your question.
:|
Your opinion is clearly tainted by your dementia.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 13, 2008 @ 5:00 pm
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You might try breaking the tablets in half.
:|
And don’t be boozin on them.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 13, 2008 @ 5:02 pm
Try placing that hatred towards the RePugniScums instead of me.
January 13th, 2008 at 5:14 pmTry placing that hatred towards the RePugniScums instead of me.
Comment by dixie blood — January 13, 2008 @ 5:14 pm
Let it go. That’s his thing.
January 13th, 2008 at 5:18 pmAnd speaking of hatred. Isn’t that what you accused me of earlier? Hell, I’m fighting the enemy. You’re pulling PC, manners sh\t on me in defense of Tony Snow.
Are you going to FRAG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frag_%28military%29 me?
January 13th, 2008 at 5:18 pmSnowjob’s just trying to exonerate himself before he reaches his “maker” but karma doesn’t work that way. He’s a liar and an enabler and for this he will suffer consequences. Nothing he says now can absolve him from the lies he told the american people - bold faced lies right in their faces every day - the same thing Dana Perino is doing right now and continues to do every day.
When is this country going to hold members of the white house press equally responsible for lying to the american people under the law? This absolutely MUST be in order for the people to EVER again have faith in the drivel which emanates from this white house.
Right now - no one believes a single thing Dana utters! She’s a human laughingstock to permit herself to be manipulated like someone’s servant or plaything simply for a paycheck and some dubious ray of limelight.
#76 In answer to your question about why people allow themselves to be such tools?? For a paycheck….which they later, regrettably, learn that they can’t take with them. Snowjob’s on his way down the tubes and doesn’t have long so he’s erroneously trying to spin more lies in a last-ditch attempt to exonerate his own conscience. The people of this country aren’t buying a word of it.
January 13th, 2008 at 5:20 pmLet it go. That’s his thing.
Comment by dbadass — January 13, 2008 @ 5:18 pm
Oh…jeez…I’m sorry. I didn’t know.
Is this a troll?
January 13th, 2008 at 5:22 pmIf there really is a ‘hell’ then snowjob knows precisely where he’s going! He doesn’t fool anyone with his attempt, albeit futile, to exonerate himself by saying “everyone does it” - “everyone gets it wrong”. He was paid to “get it wrong” by Bushco and he accepted the paycheck for the lies. Simple and that. He doesn’t get to go back now and try to retract his false statements and downright lies. Life doesn’t work that way, particularly where countless deaths due to these erroneous statements are concerned. Snowjob, as well as Bush/Cheney, have the blood of thousands of innocents on their hands.
January 13th, 2008 at 5:23 pmOh…jeez…I’m sorry. I didn’t know.
Is this a troll?
Comment by dixie blood — January 13, 2008 @ 5:22 pm
I wouldn’t say troll. Just angry with airs of superiority. I don’t really get it but at times he has things of interest to say.
January 13th, 2008 at 5:26 pmBart: The fact that 80% of americans nationwide, along with the heads of a variety of foreign countries AND THE UN were telling Dumbo to allow the inspectors to continue to do their jobs……should have been enough evidence that the occupation was illegitimate AND had not been thoroughly thought through enough to even determine an “enemy” for cripe’s sakes! If this isn’t a mountain of evidence which had “FAILURE” written all over it, then nothing is. Snowjob’s obviously experiencing some mental problems due to his physical situation AND he’s making a last-ditch plea for personal exoneration. This has nothing to do with reality. This has everything to do with propaganda.
January 13th, 2008 at 5:28 pm“…everybody gets it wrong at the beginning of a war”
Is this a self-cancelling statement? When you are wrong going in, does getting it wrong, while being wrong going in, make it right? So, what Snowman is actually saying is, everything went right, period. You have to understand that everything they say is a lie, even if they tell you they’re lying.
January 13th, 2008 at 5:34 pmTony Snowjob: the ultimate dissembler.
Don’t you just love the way he feigns that “lets all be reasonable” attitude when it comes to examining Bush’s colossal ineptitude … something he and his hot-button wedge-issue party NEVER extend to any other political debate, much less a democrat. Mr. Snow tries to sell us the administration’s snake oil with his patronizing “I’m the wise grown-up who’s going to settle this argument between the finger-pointing children.” Funny how it always shakes out that we, the democrats, are the alarmists unfairly maligning the well-intentioned administration. Of course, in Tony’s slick style, he’ll always a concede a small error on the Republican side as a pretense to fairness but ultimately will always come round to conclude that the other side is the party truly at fault.
God, what a sinister human being, he makes me want to puke.
January 13th, 2008 at 5:35 pmWhere’s my stapler?
January 13th, 2008 at 5:38 pm“lets all be reasonableâ€
Enforced manners. He wants polite talk while impolite (murderous) actions continue worldwide at the hands of this internationalist criminal administration.
January 13th, 2008 at 5:41 pmdid snow let something slip when maher said that the united states is paying both sides not to shoot at them? - snow then said “you mean israel?” - mmm does he mean that every time rice goes there to meet with the israelis and the palestinians for ‘peace’ talks,she is actually throwing money at them?
January 13th, 2008 at 5:42 pm“lets all be reasonableâ€
OK Tony, you go first. I dare you!!!!
January 13th, 2008 at 5:45 pmOk, Mantastic…justify why we went there to start with?
January 13th, 2008 at 5:46 pmI left you a little something back on the Blackwater thread, Bartlebee…
January 13th, 2008 at 5:53 pm:)
CaptainMantastic,
I don’t give 2 sh\ts if you or anyone else thinks I’m crazy.
I’m defending (as best I can) our great democracy against the facist. The MSM. The corporations that corrupt our government to go to war!!!
If you’re the Captian then a mutiny http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutiny
January 13th, 2008 at 5:54 pmis in order!!
We know things now we didn’t then?
Get real!
Inspectors said no. Did you ever listen to them (I mean hear them speak?
Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11 and anyone who thought he did bought into the BS. Saddam cared only about Saddam. There was no Al Qaeda in Iraq until we got there.
Congress approved it because they didn’t want to look weak. Period.
There was NO reason for us to go there. We should have stayed in Afghanistan and fortified our forces there. THAT is where the terrorist were. And if you believe anything else, you are justifying something that is unjustifiable.
January 13th, 2008 at 5:57 pmComment by Nevar — January 13, 2008 @ 5:53 pm
Nice! I didn’t realize you were Lithuanian.
January 13th, 2008 at 5:58 pmComment by Ms_Joanne — January 13, 2008 @ 5:57 pm
Tru’dat!!
January 13th, 2008 at 5:59 pmBart: I was agreeing with what you’d said previously. Are you sure that you’re our beloved Bartlebee? It doesn’t quite sound like you.
January 13th, 2008 at 6:06 pmThat’s pure BS that we know things now that we didn’t know then - bah, I call bullshit on Snowjob! We knew precisely THEN what we know now and the inspectors were there to verify it all. This is pure propaganda and an attempt to rewrite history and exonerate this criminal white house. People aren’t buying it Snowjob and there’s a special place for people like you in the fires of hell (or wherever sulphurically contaminated life forms go!!).
January 13th, 2008 at 6:08 pmDixie Blood: The integral component in the coversion of democracy to fascism is control of the media - control of the message to manipulate the masses. This is why there is such a serious “disconnect” between the facts and what the american people hear. No one I know listens to any aspect of the MSM if they want facts and not fiction. Ditch them all, get yourself a ‘FOX BLOCKER’ to send the message to the GOP propaganda “tool” that you’ll have nothing they have to sell nor will you buy any products from those fascist corporations who support their programming.
January 13th, 2008 at 6:10 pm“We have seen the enemy and the enemy is US”…. our government is a wholly-owned subsidiary of our corporate fascist power structure.
January 13th, 2008 at 6:12 pmFor some very strange reason, stupid morons who refuse to listen to anybody who tells them different, get it wrong almost all the time.
Very strange.
January 13th, 2008 at 6:14 pmComment by Veritas — January 13, 2008 @ 6:10 pm
Rev. Veritas
Although I’m an atheist, I am singing in the virtual choir standing just behind you!!!
January 13th, 2008 at 6:16 pmKeep carrying Bush’s water you idiot Tony Snow! For a moment I thought maybe he’d developed a conscience or something, and felt the drastic need to get out of that den of criminality! Guess not! He sure ruined the show for me Friday night! Tony Snow is like Joe Scarborough and Tucker Carlson. They have to totally monopolize every show they appear on! Just like Joe and Tucker, Snow simply showed what an incompetent moron he really is!
January 13th, 2008 at 6:17 pmMsJoanne: The sad, ugly “truth” of why we took our eye off the ball is because the ball wasn’t really Osama Bin Laden, that’s why! We went to Iraq to steal their oil and destroy their infrastructure; if our intent was truly to avenge 911, then we would have been in Afghanistan - which has become a writhing morass of eels. That’s what happens when a national becomes “inauthentic” - it loses it’s way. Let’s face it: Our “foundation” for the past 6 years was not built on solid ground with Bush stealing both elections so nothing following that can be successful. ….wrong man in the job.
And, if we’re not very careful, we’ll have another election stolen by the very easy hacking able to be done to the Opti-Scan Machines. Go to blackboxvoting.org to see what’s really going on. Kucinich is calling for a “vote count” in NH because he knows all about Sylvestro and the stranglehold “chain of custody” which his organization LHS Corporation has on every opti scan machine in New Hampshire, Mass, Conn., and Vermont. They tried it out in New Hampshire and hacked Obama’s vote. Let’s face it - they have enough to swiftboat Hillary into the next century - wonder why nothing’s been uttered about Vince Foster’s death and Whitewater?? When they swiftboat her, the think they’ll win the white house. It’s become a matter of life and livelihood for the criminal Repukes to win the white house in 08 - otherwise, they’ll all find themselves in orange jumpsuits being waterboarded!
January 13th, 2008 at 6:18 pm“We have seen the enemy and the enemy is USâ€â€¦. our government is a wholly-owned subsidiary of our corporate fascist power structure.
Comment by Veritas — January 13, 2008 @ 6:12 pm
Eisenhower warned us, as a true Republican, that the military industrial complex was a potential enemy of the state. He was right. But, short of the mark.
It’s no longer just the military industrial complex, but, almost all of the Top 50 corporations that support our facist trends!!
Just look at AT&T and their behaviour with wiretapping without warrants as just one example of anti-democratic, treasonist acts!!
This is Facism 2.0!!!
January 13th, 2008 at 6:26 pmSadly veritas, you are too correct. That and I don’t know if the people in this country have been able to master that whole critical thinking thing enough to see the trees for the forest.
Four more years of the likes of 9u11iani and we’ll be so screwed for CENTURIES instead of decades to come. Lower taxes to pay a GINORMOUS deficit? The dollar becoming extinct? Depression to equal or better the 20’s-30’s? But it matters not to those who have uber dollars. They can sell on the global market and f()ck the Americans who started them off.
And how many of those very people who are now on the precipice still support the GOP? As who was it, PT Barnum (?) said, there’s a sucker born every minute.
January 13th, 2008 at 6:28 pmDon’t you guys sometimes feel like you’re living in The Matrix and you took that damned red pill???
January 13th, 2008 at 6:36 pmIf there was only a little blue pill for the whole bloody administration to take to get over that impotence (and give us back our friggin’ country!!)
January 13th, 2008 at 6:38 pmY’all,
Is BARTLEBEE real here? He attacked me for attacking Tony Snow and then…this…uh…
Did I waste my day with this puke of a phu(k????
I think BARTLEBEE is an inconsistant MORON who likes to start fights!!
Take the oath.
Ignore this assh0le forever!! Promise!!
January 13th, 2008 at 6:38 pmIts so bizarre that its unimaginable.
And whats worse is Maher and the rest just let him do it.
You could see the liberal guests were just unprepared. They should have looked Tony Snow in the eye and said; nobody could have predicted it Tony??? EVERYBODY predicted it!!! Everyone tried to warn you guys of the QUAGMIRE waiting for you in Iraq.
And you wouldn’t listen!!!.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 13, 2008 @ 6:38 pm
Anyone who saw the show knows that you didn’t and that you are a c0cksucking assh0le!!
Watch the complete show and you will see you are STUPID!!!!
January 13th, 2008 at 6:43 pmManners matter
January 13th, 2008 at 6:44 pmMcSnowjob is the same lying sack of crap he has always been, unwilling to listen other opinions, speaking over others, and lying like all the thugs in the crime family. I wish him well in his fight with cancer but wish he would just give up the KKKarl Rove BS.
January 13th, 2008 at 6:46 pmComment by justasking — January 13, 2008 @ 6:42 pm
Just fighting facism with facism…wanna join in? Pick a side!!!
January 13th, 2008 at 6:51 pmdbadass…no sh!t!! It’s like watching a nasty family fight at Thanksgiving.
Civility to each other, please. (Save it for the trolls! ;-)
January 13th, 2008 at 6:54 pmNot only did I see the show, but I came in on Friday night and talked about just seeing th
You know, maybe cutting the tablets in half was bad advice.
Maybe you should see if the doctor will up the dosage.
What a hateful “progressive”
January 13th, 2008 at 6:57 pmSo far, all I see you doing is blogging in here, like the rest of us.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 13, 2008 @ 6:54 pm
Yet in a far less obnoxious manner
January 13th, 2008 at 6:57 pm:\
I’m getting confused.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
To much media?
January 13th, 2008 at 6:58 pmCivility to each other, please. (Save it for the trolls! ;-)
Comment by Ms_Joanne — January 13, 2008 @ 6:54 pm
Exactly.
January 13th, 2008 at 6:59 pmNavar! LMFAO!!! Touche!
January 13th, 2008 at 7:00 pmGeebus, people, chill.
Dixie, those of us who are cancer survivors take your comment real personally.
The karmic wheel will crush his toady essence in due time, no need to root for the cancer.
That said, have a great Sunday night all!
January 13th, 2008 at 7:04 pmChanging the venue a bit but is there anyone else who has a very uncomfortable sensation in the pit of their stomach regarding what happened in New Hampshire? I am finding the conventional reasons unsatisfactory and still cannot come up with a reason why the exit polling and the results of JUST the Democratic race did not match up. After all exit polling has been the “gold standard” used in every country concerned with having fair elections for decades.
What presents a problem for me is the pundit’s “take” on why the difference between the election numbers and the exit polls. They are repeating the staid, bigoted mantra that people who voted for Obama may not want to admit it to the pollsters. Well, that means that the pollsters would come up with “more votes for Hillary” in the exit polls and not “less votes for Hillary in the exit polls” which is what actually occurred. So their argument, other than intending to maintain the great white divide of white supremacy and bigotry actually works in reverse of what they are proposing.
I think it’s becoming clear that the Opti Scan machines (dielbold 91w) which are used extensively throughout this country can be hacked by a techie in a computer shop in less than 10 minutes and probably within two days by a teen.
I also find it purplexing to explain that it’s just the democratic voters in New Hampshire who would lie to pollsters about their vote when the people in Iowa did not. Are Iowans that much more honest and authentic?
I also find it purplexing that it was only in the democratic race that these glaring discrepancies occurred. The Republican side of things (pre poll, actual voting, exit poll) were in total concert and within the acceptable statistical margin of error. Yet, the race between Hillary and Obama was rife with glaring discrepancies. Hmmmm….
It’s becoming common knowledge that the GOP would like nothing more than Hillary to become the candidate. It’s certainly NOT because she is so well respected among Republicans; quite the contrary. It’s also because she’s not “electable”; that is, she won’t be when the swiftboating begins and will be knocked out of the running early on. Bill still hasn’t released his archives for the people to become more informed about her years in the white house which, in itself, is indicting.
I hope that Kucinich and others will demand a hand count in New Hampshire. We need to nip this hacking in the bud or we will get what we deserve - the wrong man again leading this country.
January 13th, 2008 at 7:04 pmVeritas, I was remarking on another thread about the science that is polling. Something really stinks.
January 13th, 2008 at 7:05 pmWhen is Kucinich’s recount going to be done?
This “BushSpeak/DoubleSpeak” makes one’s head spin but in dissecting what occurred in New Hampshire, what they propose doesn’t even make logical sense.
January 13th, 2008 at 7:06 pmBart, you have ALWAYS been reasonable in your posts and I didn’t see anything that you should have been slammed for.
That said, Dixie is just more, uhm, colorful in her passion? I can relate to it but I probably wouldn’t have taken that approach.
But I don’t see how tearing each other up over how much we hate the administration and who hates them more, blah blah blah is doing us any good. If anything we need to pull together more this year than anytime in my living history.
I hope this won’t be indicative to the election…we’ve seen Dem’s in congress do it because one votes one way because the bill is too much and the others vote a different way - on the same bill - because it’s too much the other way.
I say SCREW THAT! We need to get this done and get it done for ALL of us!!!
Ok, my two cents and I am bowing out now.
January 13th, 2008 at 7:10 pmComment by justasking — January 13, 2008 @ 7:05 pm
I wasn’t talking to you. Leave off…
January 13th, 2008 at 7:11 pmNice! I didn’t realize you were Lithuanian.
Comment by dbadass
About as close as I can get is the Lithium ion battery in my cell phone.
(Don’t tell Bartlebee I have a cell phone, OK?
January 13th, 2008 at 7:12 pmI don’t want to dash his illusions of me…)
Hey RU! Good to see ya! Yes, I hope that Kucinich moves forward. Of course, they’ve told him that he will have to pay for it himself. Imagine that in a democracy where the citizens believe that something corrupt occurred and they are making one individual pay for it. Maybe we all should flood New Hampshire with email letting them know that we are not impressed with what “has been” going on in their state. It was just this Fall that the man who has the “chain of custody” of 81% of their voting machines and was in court about it - yet nothing was done. He would not permit blackboxvoting.org to have one of his precious machines to investigate so they purchased one and did their study. They took it to their local neighborhood computer shop and gave it to the first technician they saw - he was into the “brains” of the machine within 10 minutes! Nothing is sacred with our corrupt voting system as long as partisan politicos have a legal “chain of custody”. Sylvestro has this private access to every aspect of these Diebold Opti Scan machines in Vermont, New Hampshire, Connecticut and Mass. This means that he controls almost all of New England. This is very, very serious.
If our Congress fails to investigate what occurred in New Hampshire, nothing will change and the Republicans will hack our votes once again.
I believe that New Hampshire was their “trial run”. But, as I said, nothing can explain a discrepancy between exit polling and actual votes. They’re attempting to do a brain screw on citizens by confusing the pre-polling with the actual results which is another story all together. It’s the Exit Polls which this country uses as the gold standard to determine the validity of an election in other countries and yet we fail to investigate this glaring discrepancy right in our own country.
Having a Repuke win may mean the difference between life as they know it and a prison cell so we can count on desperate men doing desperate things. What occurred in NH stinks to high heaven and if nothing is done about it RIGHT NOW then what little voice we believe we have as americans in this dying democracy may, indeed, be nothing more than fiction.
January 13th, 2008 at 7:13 pmWhich comment might that be???
January 13th, 2008 at 7:16 pmBartlebee: All I said was that your posts didn’t sound like your old lovable self.
January 13th, 2008 at 7:16 pmNevar…go back to your run-of-the-mill opinions.
Comment by justasking — January 13, 2008 @
LOL
January 13th, 2008 at 7:16 pmLike you ever provide any grist..
You’re like that hard pebble of pyrite the millstone has to bump over once every trip around.
Hey Zooey! How are you up in the Tundra?? Just a question: With the new registration, is it still possible to name jack?
January 13th, 2008 at 7:17 pmWe need to get this done and get it done for ALL of us!!!
Comment by Ms_Joanne — January 13, 2008 @ 7:10 pm
If we don’t bury the repukes this November, we’re gonna be even more fu(ked up than we are now.
Nothing should get in the way of the Dems (and Independents) knocking down this neocon fascist structure we’ve seen built up over the last seven years.
January 13th, 2008 at 7:18 pmRUCerious…EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!
January 13th, 2008 at 7:18 pmTony Snow - what a tool!
I think Tony should run on the Green Party ticket. He seems to spew a never ending load of horse $hit every time he gets to talking!
January 13th, 2008 at 7:19 pmHey Zooey! How are you up in the Tundra?? Just a question: With the new registration, is it still possible to name jack?
Comment by Veritas — January 13, 2008 @ 7:17 pm
Hi Veritas. Yes, it is possible to namejack — still.
January 13th, 2008 at 7:19 pmMsJoanne: As always, you exude finesse and balance! I can always count on you for that. What I’m noticing is that some of the regulars here on this thread really don’t sound like themselves this evening. I think we’re all noting that.
January 13th, 2008 at 7:19 pmI bet you wouldn’t DARE direct that comment to the “regularsâ€, as they call themselves.
I dare ya.
Comment by justasking — January 13, 2008 @ 7:14 pm
Like the abstinence programs, DARE doesn’t work
January 13th, 2008 at 7:20 pmaha! Have you noticed some of our regulars not sounding quite like themselves tonight?
January 13th, 2008 at 7:20 pmRU & Ms. Joanne - The GOP had their first foray into hacking into the Diebold Opti Scan machines in the New Hampshire primaries. Unless it’s a very lopsided race, it will be hacked again. We can bet on it.
January 13th, 2008 at 7:21 pmYeah…and nobody is talking on your blog. This is not your blog.
Comment by justasking — January 13, 2008 @ 7:19 pm
Give us another blinding flash of the obvious.
Hey y’all — this is not my blog!
January 13th, 2008 at 7:21 pmHey, I have my moments in real life where I sound just like Dixie and people who know me think I’ve gone off the deep end for good. It’s far too easy to become that frustrated when we, as people who follow what’s going on in the world, get, well, frustrated. I have had I don’t know how many rants - and I have had them when I called Durbin, Obama and Feingold (think signing statements).
It’s much easier to do this because I can read what I typed and hit Backspace when what I really want to say is STFU! ;-)
January 13th, 2008 at 7:23 pmHey y’all — this is not my blog!
Comment by Zooey — January 13, 2008 @ 7:21 pm
It isn’t? Shit, I must be at the wrong place. I knew something wasn’t quite right about this place.
January 13th, 2008 at 7:23 pmAlas, Veritas, I again concur. I think Diebold is the single biggest concern we have RE: the election. Well, coupled with all this mass (but non existent) voter fraud and other caging tactics. Toss on a healthy dose of MSM and we as a country are simply going to be f()cked.
January 13th, 2008 at 7:24 pmComment by Veritas — January 13, 2008 @ 7:20 pm
Individualism worsens “TP regular paranoiaâ€.
Comment by justasking — January 13, 2008 @ 7:23 pm
Are you here just to rag on folks, or do you have any constructive comments of any sort?
January 13th, 2008 at 7:25 pmJust askin…
It isn’t? Shit, I must be at the wrong place. I knew something wasn’t quite right about this place.
Comment by dbadass — January 13, 2008 @ 7:23 pm
Go figure. Thank goodness for Captain Obvious.
January 13th, 2008 at 7:26 pmZooey, btw, where are you? I am sitting in a hotel room in Butte, MT now. Being from Chicago, this is like the end of the earth. :-D
January 13th, 2008 at 7:28 pmWow! I am seriously surprised by all the sniping at people who are always exceptionally reasonable. RUC and Bart?? C’mon. Those two are, in my eyes, usually right on.
Uhm, is it a full moon?
January 13th, 2008 at 7:31 pmThen stop saying, “WHIRRRR click…click…’Leave from here’….click click…’You don’t belong here….WHIRRRRR!…â€
Comment by justasking — January 13, 2008 @ 7:26 pm
Provide a link to where I have ever said any such thing. If you can’t manage that, STFU and leave me alone.
January 13th, 2008 at 7:32 pmO…You’re back? I thought you said “Goodnight†above. AGAIN. Seems you never speak up for the morally right thing. You find someone else to fight a fight that you could benefit from.
You got lazy keys.
Comment by justasking — January 13, 2008 @ 7:28 pm
With the exception of post #130, you’ve done nothing but rag on other commenters. You’re worthless.
January 13th, 2008 at 7:33 pmAnd, no, I didn’t say goodnight earlier, get your facts straight.
Zooey, btw, where are you? I am sitting in a hotel room in Butte, MT now. Being from Chicago, this is like the end of the earth. :-D
Comment by Ms_Joanne — January 13, 2008 @ 7:28 pm
I’m in northern Idaho. Butte is a big town! Not quite the end of the earth. :-) Can you see the giant Jesus on the top of the mountainside? Or the giant hole in the earth with poisonous water at the bottom — that mine pit?
I only go through there on my way to Yellowstone.
January 13th, 2008 at 7:35 pmTwo things now on my MUST DO list (because Butte is all of 2 miles x 1 mile). I think I saw 4 houses on our approach. One gate at the airport. One baggage area. It’s the smallest airport I have ever seen.
Yeah, the big city in me rears its head now and again.
January 13th, 2008 at 7:38 pmYeah, the big city in me rears its head now and again.
Comment by Ms_Joanne — January 13, 2008 @ 7:38 pm
Butte has a nice old historic downtown, if I remember correctly — near the pit mine. Is there a ton of snow there?
January 13th, 2008 at 7:43 pmMen from Saudi attack us. We attack Iraq. Snowball you’ve lost control over your own mind. A 10yr old could have figured..’What’s wrong with this picture?’.
January 13th, 2008 at 7:45 pmI am working here this week. I am usually in different parts of the country (and world) every week. Not a ton at all. And I think alot of it melted today based upon how sloppy it is out.
And (back on topic :) Bush is teh 10 year old (emotionally and mentally). The others are enablers and directors. I doubt Bush could tie his shoes on his own. At a minimum he’d need five people telling him they liked the shoes.
January 13th, 2008 at 7:50 pmAnd you’re old.
Comment by justasking
The wheels of the gods grind slow,
yet exceedingly fine……
LOL
January 13th, 2008 at 7:50 pmGeebus, people, chill.
Dixie, those of us who are cancer survivors take your comment real personally.
Comment by RUCerious — January 13, 2008 @ 7:04 pm
And you imply that I’m immune from cancer or have never had friends or family die from cancer?
Don’t try to take a higher road than me here!! (Wahhahaa!) Everyone suffers from illness and death and we all know someone who has suffered with or died from cancer!!!
So, how about if I wish that Tony Snow (enemy of the state) dies from praying too much? For being an imbecile? Or, just being a Fox employee?!!
Or maybe Godless could make him female for life!!! Would that be a good punishment? No cancer, just female forever.
Is that less offensive to you?
It shouldn’t be if you really care about life in all of it’s forms. You should be outraged at the failing system that surrounds you.
January 13th, 2008 at 7:52 pmOT
January 13th, 2008 at 7:56 pmHas anyone heard about this:Oregon senator prepares universal health coverage plan
I would rather see government run universal health insurance for all instead of this. Wyden’s plan is to provide health care coverage to all Americans through a pool of private insurance plans.
I say we kick the a$ses of private insurance companies out altogether.
That’s if YOU cared about life in all of it’s forms.
Comment by justasking — January 13, 2008 @ 7:56 pm
That’s correct and I don’t care about life in all of it’s forms!!
I don’t need any enemy of democracy sucking one more breath of air!!
January 13th, 2008 at 8:07 pmSo cancer stricken Facists are OK here with you guys. Facism is A-OK as long as the facist has cancer, right? How about an infected hang-nail? Can I wish that upon a facist?
January 13th, 2008 at 8:12 pmOK,
You win!
I wish the blessings a non-existant god on Tony. Is that less cruel? The blessings of a god that isn’t there!!!
That seems much more cruel than a deadly illness. He could rot in the wrong hell forever!!
But, you’re right! I lose!
I hope he meets up with a non-existant god and is found in hell. Cancer is nothing!! Cancer - schmancer!! A God that isn’t there is much better.
Now, feel better?
January 13th, 2008 at 8:39 pmDixie, unfortunately, your posts are the kinds of stuff Rush O’Reilly look for when they talk about the hateful loony left. I understand your outrage and have felt the same thing but honestly, thinking something and verbalizing it are two different things. I couldn’t ever SAY something like that because I do believe in karma. And babe, you are slinging some seriously bad karma.
Discussing issues is one thing. You’re way beyond that. I think your tact is completely disrespectful to having any kind of discourse.
Sorry, but I, too, find it offensive, no matter how much I hate Snowball. I have never wished death on anyone and I hope that I never do. That’s a level of hatred that eats at your core. It’s unproductive and destructive.
January 13th, 2008 at 8:47 pmI’m serious. I’m changing my curse from cancer to non-exisitant god. That’s my idea. I thought that maybe if i took back my cancer curse and replaced it with a non-existnant god blessing you would be my BFF!
Look, I’m no longer looking for a cancer death. I’m seeking the blessings of a god that’s not there.
May the God that’s not there bless you BARTLEBEE and save you from the cancer!!!
And may Tony Snow find peace in the god that doesn’t exist!!
January 13th, 2008 at 8:50 pmBart, that doesn’t surprise me. I have read your (and RUC and veritas’) posts for months and you guys are usually voices of reason. To see that kind of venom directed at you guys, that should have tipped me off. I HATE engaging with trolls…they hijack a thread and it pisses me off. I usually just read what TP posts and scan the comments.
I value all your comments so much that it’s frustrating to me when people engage with these a$$holes. And look what I just did.
My bad!
January 13th, 2008 at 9:03 pmOh well, when you’re stuck out in the back of the beyond, what else are ya gonna do?
All is forgiven, Ms. Joanne…
January 13th, 2008 at 9:07 pm;)
Worse yet, Nevar…the only store here is Wal-Mart…and I swore off of them. You guys are going to be soooooooooooooooo sick of me by the end of this week!! :-)
January 13th, 2008 at 9:10 pmHey, Bart…know what? Sometimes I am just aching for a fight and it just feels good to tell some moron just how f()cking stupid they really are. (batting eyelashes sweetly)
January 13th, 2008 at 9:13 pmI might be movin’
to Montana soon
Just to raise me up a crop of
Dental Floss
Raisin’ it up
Waxen it down
In a little white box
That I can sell uptown
By myself I wouldn’t
Have no boss,
But I’d be raisin’ my lonely
Dental Floss
Raisin’ my lonely
Dental Floss
Well I just might
grow me some bees
But I’d leave the sweet stuff
To somebody else . .
. but then, on the
other hand Iwould
Keep the wax
N’ melt it down
Pluck some Floss
N’ swish it aroun’
I’d have me a crop
An’ it’d be on top
(that’s why I’m
movin’ to Montana)
Movin’ to Montana soon
Gonna be a Dental Floss
tycoon (yes I am)
Movin’ to Montana soon
Gonna be a mennil-toss flykune
I’m pluckin’ the ol’
Dennil Floss
That’s growin’ on the prairie
Pluckin’ the floss!
I plucked all day an’
all nite an’ all
Afternoon . . .
I’m ridin’ a small tiny hoss
(His name is MIGHTY LITTLE)
He’s a good hoss
Even though
He’s a bit dinky to
strap a big saddle or
Blanket on anyway
He’s a bit dinky to
strap a big saddle or
Blanket on anyway
Any way
I’m pluckin’ the ol’
Dennil Floss
Even if you think it
is a little silly,
folks
I don’t care if you think
it’s silly, folks
I don’t care if you think
it’s silly, folks
I’m gonna find me a horse
Just about this big,
An’ ride him all along
the border line
With a
Pair of heavy-duty
Zircon-encrusted
tweezers in my hand
Every other wrangler would say
I was mighty grand
By myself I wouldn’t
Have no boss,
But I’d be raisin’ my lonely
Dental Floss
Raisin’ my lonely
Dental Floss
Raisin’ my lonely
Dental Floss
Well I might
Ride along the border
With my tweezers gleamin’
In the moon-lighty night
And then I’d
Get a cuppa cawfee
N’ give my foot a push . . .
Just me ‘n the pygmy pony
Over the Dennil Floss Bush
N’ then I might just
Jump back on
An’ ride
Like a cowboy
Into the dawn to Montana
Movin’ to Montana soon
(Yippy-Ty-O-Ty-Ay)
Movin’ to Montana soon
(Yippy-Ty-O-Ty-Ay)
Frank Zappa, Montana
January 13th, 2008 at 9:19 pmHey, Nevar…this was my very first concert! I love Zappa! But I gots news for ya, babe…this kid ain’t never moving to MT. (I don’t eat yellow snow, either. ;-)
January 13th, 2008 at 9:22 pm:)
January 13th, 2008 at 9:23 pmBARTLEBEE, Ms_Joanne,
You are both brilliant! NOT!
OK, how about I just wish Tony Snow had the same heath care as the little girl who died needing a liver transplant. She was denied by an HMO set up by RePugniScums!! A little girl is denied health care by her insurance company and you guys worry over the facist Tiny sNow.
Oh, yeah I’m a real troll! NOT!!
Maybe Tiny sNow should get the same care. Is that better? Make you feel better about the America we live in?
I hope you both are warm and well fed tonight. Many will not be. And you side with the enemy.
January 13th, 2008 at 9:27 pmIt’s understandable (though not excusable) that when Tony Snow was working for the mafiosi at the WH - and being paid for - he had to say all that bush-it daily, trying to deceive the American people.
But what about now? Since he is no longer paid to do that (I guess…), it seems than that he is just as stupid as he can be and keeps repeating all that nonsense.
Didn’t he figure it out yet, that the American people are not as stupid as Cheney-Bush think we are? Hello… we got brains!!! (At least those who didn’t vote and re-vote for Bush!).
January 13th, 2008 at 9:32 pmOh. I think Snow makes more $$ now. Lying for a living. (I didn’t know he had a law degree. :-D )
That’s so wrong on every possible level.
January 13th, 2008 at 9:37 pmOr didn’t YOU see the show?
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 13, 2008 @ 9:36 pm
No I didn’t see the show and that’s not my problem. That’s the problem of the MSM. I will not change my beliefs to conform to the MSM!!!
They use PC and politeness (while sniping and dissing the left) as reasons to put down and keep the left in place!!!
They fight dirty!! When will you wish to win??
Oh, let me curb my enthusiasm for democracy because there was a “show” about so-called idiots produced by the facist MSM!
Do you have a spine?? Hold it, I can help, you don’t!!!
January 13th, 2008 at 9:45 pm(snicker)
Night all! Keep up the good fight! (Just think…only 5 more nights of total boredom! At least Olbermann is back tomorrow and they have USA so I won’t be jonesing for Countdown or Law and Order SVU and CI.)
January 13th, 2008 at 9:45 pmThe interesting aspect of Snow’s admission is that we have gone from “everything is fine, Bush’s detractors are the loony, America-hating fringe” to “everybody gets it wrong at the beginning of a war”.
What a difference 5 years make.
January 13th, 2008 at 9:45 pmWhat I have noticed about this administration and its apologists, is that they never talk about being wrong in the present tense.
It’s always “I was wrong before, but I am correct now. Trust me” at every turn of the way.
We should remind Mr. Snow he always told us things were going just fine from his podium at the White House. He cannot come back now to try to hide behind his lame “everyone makes mistakes” when he never admitted to being wrong in the first place.
January 13th, 2008 at 9:49 pmAnd you imply that I’m immune from cancer or have never had friends or family die from cancer?
Comment by dixie blood — January 13, 2008 @ 7:52 pm
That’s not implied in my statement at all.
Cancer is a blight on the human species.
Don’t try to take a higher road than me here!! …
You aren’t on any kind of high road I can see. I am as pissed as anybod