Comments on: Right Wing Propagates New Smear Against Obama, Says He Is Muslim ‘Apostate’ Who Will Be ‘Executed’ http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:27:48 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: BillyBob http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/comment-page-4/#comment-4232129 BillyBob Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:08:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/#comment-4232129 Osama....I mean Obama is a muslim, commie, coke head. Osama….I mean Obama is a muslim, commie, coke head.

]]> By: Robt http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/comment-page-4/#comment-4228704 Robt Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:32:13 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/#comment-4228704 #152- "151. Robt. It is the Clinton camp that has been repeatedly floating the “Muslim” word about Obama. You need to get your facts straight. " -You could be right of the Clinton camp responsible for some. Yet what of these bigoted clowns in this posts video clip. That isn't the Clinton camp is it? When hard core repubs at work come out and talk poorly of Obama all of a sudden because now they can replace the word "Negro" with "Muslim" is pathetic. They don't listen to the Clinton camp because they hate her more. I just think that anyone using the word Muslim (with the implication all Muslims are black and bad) should be spanked publicly. At least some coverage that they use the term Muslim as a replacement derrogatant for Negro. And that includes Clinton's camp being spank if required. #152-
“151. Robt. It is the Clinton camp that has been repeatedly floating the “Muslim” word about Obama. You need to get your facts straight. ”

-You could be right of the Clinton camp responsible for some.
Yet what of these bigoted clowns in this posts video clip. That isn’t the Clinton camp is it?

When hard core repubs at work come out and talk poorly of Obama all of a sudden because now they can replace the word “Negro” with “Muslim” is pathetic. They don’t listen to the Clinton camp because they hate her more.

I just think that anyone using the word Muslim (with the implication all Muslims are black and bad) should be spanked publicly.

At least some coverage that they use the term Muslim as a replacement derrogatant for Negro.

And that includes Clinton’s camp being spank if required.

]]> By: 99Luf Balloons http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/comment-page-4/#comment-4228358 99Luf Balloons Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:59:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/#comment-4228358 Keltoi, Get over it. The Republican party stands for keeping people down on the farm, that is why they are CONSERVATIVE. They want to keep everything for themselves. That is ANTITHETICAL to any socially progressive or forward thinking movement that espouses the cause of liberation from poverty or helping fellow people. And lo and behold, blacks have been driven into or held in the latter group by...The capitalists and other land barons (read slave owners) Dixiecrats who are now prominent within the GOP. Face it, the GOP is dead. It is a cripled, and empty vessle, with nothing but contempt and hatred of what AMERICA is turning into, and pines for the days of old, where everyone was kept "down on the farm." Just look at the idjits you got out front and center. Racists the bunch of ya. And until the supporters either bury the elephant, or remake it into something else, your ideals are dead, your points are dead, and your planks are all dead. The writing is on the wall, try reading it. Keltoi,
Get over it. The Republican party stands for keeping people down on the farm, that is why they are CONSERVATIVE. They want to keep everything for themselves. That is ANTITHETICAL to any socially progressive or forward thinking movement that espouses the cause of liberation from poverty or helping fellow people. And lo and behold, blacks have been driven into or held in the latter group by…The capitalists and other land barons (read slave owners) Dixiecrats who are now prominent within the GOP.
Face it, the GOP is dead. It is a cripled, and empty vessle, with nothing but contempt and hatred of what AMERICA is turning into, and pines for the days of old, where everyone was kept “down on the farm.”
Just look at the idjits you got out front and center. Racists the bunch of ya. And until the supporters either bury the elephant, or remake it into something else, your ideals are dead, your points are dead, and your planks are all dead.
The writing is on the wall, try reading it.

]]> By: Robt http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/comment-page-4/#comment-4228272 Robt Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:50:56 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/#comment-4228272 If I might be so bold to suggest that the Republicans are using the "Muslin" word as code instead of "Black Afro/American". Never once did I hear or read any news story of Obama's "muslim" connection running for Senate or as State legislator. H as anyone else? Again, it is my contention on how the GOP refers to Obama, connecting him to Muslim is racial code for "Negro"! Where was the concern of the "Fascist Bush" doing business with or enemy the Germans? Fred Thompson defending terrrorists in the Pan Am tradgety? Romney the Mormon? Is Mormon a cult? There should be a voters grassroots campaign to spank these people and publically. It needs to be curbbed NOW !! If I might be so bold to suggest that the Republicans are using the “Muslin” word as code instead of “Black Afro/American”.

Never once did I hear or read any news story of Obama’s “muslim” connection running for Senate or as State legislator. H
as anyone else?

Again, it is my contention on how the GOP refers to Obama, connecting him to Muslim is racial code for “Negro”!

Where was the concern of the “Fascist Bush” doing business with or enemy the Germans?

Fred Thompson defending terrrorists in the Pan Am tradgety?

Romney the Mormon? Is Mormon a cult?

There should be a voters grassroots campaign to spank these people and publically. It needs to be curbbed NOW !!

]]> By: ralph the wonder llama http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/comment-page-3/#comment-4228211 ralph the wonder llama Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:43:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/#comment-4228211 Gigi, you're inserting the word "Senators" into a different claim in order to concoct a narrative that comes closer to suiting your purposes. Now, it's hardly a surprise that you would erect such a straw man (in fact it s what we expect out of you), but in fact the claim oft repeated on TP about the South and party affiliation is that those RACIST VOTERS from the RURAL SOUTH who had supported the Democratic Party from Reconstruction to the 1960s, left and became REPUBLICANS after the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was signed by a Democratic president. This resulted in a sea change in presidential politics that was encouraged by Nixon's SOUTHERN STRATEGY. More long term, several commentators have suggested that the ultimate result of this strategy is to turn the Republican party<a href="http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/11/08/gop_losses_in_north_widen_regional_rifts/" rel="nofollow"> into a regional party</a> rather than a viable national one. Enjoy your future, Gigi. Gigi, you’re inserting the word “Senators” into a different claim in order to concoct a narrative that comes closer to suiting your purposes.

Now, it’s hardly a surprise that you would erect such a straw man (in fact it
s what we expect out of you), but in fact the claim oft repeated on TP about the South and party affiliation is that those RACIST VOTERS from the RURAL SOUTH who had supported the Democratic Party from Reconstruction to the 1960s, left and became REPUBLICANS after the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was signed by a Democratic president. This resulted in a sea change in presidential politics that was encouraged by Nixon’s SOUTHERN STRATEGY.

More long term, several commentators have suggested that the ultimate result of this strategy is to turn the Republican party into a regional party rather than a viable national one. Enjoy your future, Gigi.

]]> By: thirdparty http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/comment-page-3/#comment-4228154 thirdparty Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:47:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/#comment-4228154 <em>That was a kind and gentle reply to your pile of crap. Pipes is as antiAmerican as Bin Laden, maybe more so. he is a spy and a traitor, and should be in prison. our defense is completely idiotic and pathetic, and a lousy try. Comment by Lefty Patriot — January 14, 2008 @ 10:21 pm</em> Where's your proof? Spy and a traitor, really? That was a kind and gentle reply to your pile of crap. Pipes is as antiAmerican as Bin Laden, maybe more so. he is a spy and a traitor, and should be in prison. our defense is completely idiotic and pathetic, and a lousy try.

Comment by Lefty Patriot — January 14, 2008 @ 10:21 pm

Where’s your proof? Spy and a traitor, really?

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/comment-page-3/#comment-4228147 Lefty Patriot Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:21:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/#comment-4228147 Lefty, care to respond to the substance of my point? You’re attack is pretty idiotic and pathetic. But good try! Comment by thirdparty — January 14, 2008 @ 10:09 pm That was a kind and gentle reply to your pile of crap. Pipes is as antiAmerican as Bin Laden, maybe more so. he is a spy and a traitor, and should be in prison. our defense is completely idiotic and pathetic, and a lousy try. Lefty, care to respond to the substance of my point? You’re attack is pretty idiotic and pathetic. But good try!

Comment by thirdparty — January 14, 2008 @ 10:09 pm

That was a kind and gentle reply to your pile of crap. Pipes is as antiAmerican as Bin Laden, maybe more so. he is a spy and a traitor, and should be in prison. our defense is completely idiotic and pathetic, and a lousy try.

]]> By: thirdparty http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/comment-page-3/#comment-4228140 thirdparty Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:09:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/#comment-4228140 <em>Do you have any more LSD? it’s been a long time. Comment by Lefty Patriot — January 14, 2008 @ 5:31 pm</em> Lefty, care to respond to the substance of my point? You're attack is pretty idiotic and pathetic. But good try! Do you have any more LSD? it’s been a long time.

Comment by Lefty Patriot — January 14, 2008 @ 5:31 pm

Lefty, care to respond to the substance of my point? You’re attack is pretty idiotic and pathetic. But good try!

]]> By: ralph the wonder llama http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/comment-page-3/#comment-4227941 ralph the wonder llama Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:11:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/#comment-4227941 <em>Let’s assume that everything goon_golly says is a lie Comment by bilbobaggins — January 14, 2008 @ 5:58 pm</em> Already done. Gigi has made a rep for herself here in a hurry. Let’s assume that everything goon_golly says is a lie

Comment by bilbobaggins — January 14, 2008 @ 5:58 pm

Already done. Gigi has made a rep for herself here in a hurry.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/comment-page-3/#comment-4227922 Lefty Patriot Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:01:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/#comment-4227922 Shaheen could have worked for 1970’s television as an African American casting agent. Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 14, 2008 @ 5:40 pm And yet you make Shaheen's point for him. Republicans are scum who hate emocracy and freedom, that's all you're proving. Shaheen could have worked for 1970’s television as an African American casting agent.

Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 14, 2008 @ 5:40 pm

And yet you make Shaheen’s point for him. Republicans are scum who hate emocracy and freedom, that’s all you’re proving.

]]> By: Fred http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/comment-page-3/#comment-4227918 Fred Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:00:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/#comment-4227918 138 We knew they were lies when he posted them.....the numbers are way off. 138
We knew they were lies when he posted them…..the numbers are way off.

]]> By: Fred http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/comment-page-3/#comment-4227916 Fred Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:58:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/#comment-4227916 In the Washington Post interview Comment by CaptainMantastic that's all we need to know about your post cap. In the Washington Post interview
Comment by CaptainMantastic

that’s all we need to know about your post cap.

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/comment-page-3/#comment-4227915 bilbobaggins Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:58:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/#comment-4227915 <i>RASMUSSEN: Clinton leads Obama among white voters 41% to 27%… Obama leads Clinton among African-American voters 66% to 16%… thus proving that the Democratic party remains as racist as it ever was. Comment by good_golly</i> You know goon_golly, if you ever expect us to take you seriously you need to link to proof of what you say. I went to the Rasmussen site so that I could see in what context this poll was taken and could not find any evidence of there being a poll on this subject. Let's assume that everything goon_golly says is a lie unless he links to something that proves what he is saying is the truth. And as such, don't respond to his lies. RASMUSSEN: Clinton leads Obama among white voters 41% to 27%…
Obama leads Clinton among African-American voters 66% to 16%…
thus proving that the Democratic party remains as racist as it ever was.
Comment by good_golly

You know goon_golly, if you ever expect us to take you seriously you need to link to proof of what you say. I went to the Rasmussen site so that I could see in what context this poll was taken and could not find any evidence of there being a poll on this subject.

Let’s assume that everything goon_golly says is a lie unless he links to something that proves what he is saying is the truth. And as such, don’t respond to his lies.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/comment-page-3/#comment-4227894 Lefty Patriot Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:38:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/#comment-4227894 Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 14, 2008 @ 5:32 pm Two rightwing writers would never try to muddy the waters, now, would they? More hit pieces from the GOP treason party. Nice try, moron. Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 14, 2008 @ 5:32 pm

Two rightwing writers would never try to muddy the waters, now, would they? More hit pieces from the GOP treason party. Nice try, moron.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/comment-page-3/#comment-4227881 Lefty Patriot Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:31:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/#comment-4227881 Even Ben Smith, who is used to support TP’s case here, suggests that Pipes could be acting as innocently as Bob Kerrey was. Comment by thirdparty — January 14, 2008 @ 5:23 pm Do you have any more LSD? it's been a long time. Even Ben Smith, who is used to support TP’s case here, suggests that Pipes could be acting as innocently as Bob Kerrey was.

Comment by thirdparty — January 14, 2008 @ 5:23 pm

Do you have any more LSD? it’s been a long time.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/comment-page-3/#comment-4227879 Lefty Patriot Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:30:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/#comment-4227879 So only the racist democrats left the party? All of the non racist dems stayed in the party? Moron. Comment by Southern Man — January 14, 2008 @ 5:18 pm More idiocy from the idiot. If you want to see the problem with public education, he's right here, the Southern Fool. So only the racist democrats left the party? All of the non racist dems stayed in the party? Moron.

Comment by Southern Man — January 14, 2008 @ 5:18 pm

More idiocy from the idiot. If you want to see the problem with public education, he’s right here, the Southern Fool.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/comment-page-3/#comment-4227876 Lefty Patriot Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:28:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/#comment-4227876 There are many conservatives working for the goverment you ass! Comment by Southern Man — January 14, 2008 @ 5:23 pm Solidifying their hypocrisy. We don't need the ignorance, racism and backwardsness of conservative traitors in the classroom. Shame on you for selling out your principles! There are many conservatives working for the goverment you ass!

Comment by Southern Man — January 14, 2008 @ 5:23 pm

Solidifying their hypocrisy. We don’t need the ignorance, racism and backwardsness of conservative traitors in the classroom. Shame on you for selling out your principles!

]]> By: Impolitics http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/comment-page-3/#comment-4227864 Impolitics Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:23:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/#comment-4227864 Then, of course, there are the ones who "think" like this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvtFaPslA_o&feature=related Then, of course, there are the ones who “think” like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvtFaPslA_o&feature=related

]]> By: thirdparty http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/comment-page-3/#comment-4227860 thirdparty Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:23:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/#comment-4227860 First, I disagree with Pipes' argument. But why are we so intolerant of what really amounts to a thought exercise? The misleading headline makes it seem as though Pipes is saying Obama is an apostate, when in fact the claim is that Obama might be vulnerable to verbal - and potentially physical - attack from extremists who view him that way. And so while his argument might be wrong, isn't it something we can ponder without being so reactionary about it? Even Ben Smith, who is used to support TP's case here, suggests that Pipes could be acting as innocently as Bob Kerrey was. First, I disagree with Pipes’ argument. But why are we so intolerant of what really amounts to a thought exercise? The misleading headline makes it seem as though Pipes is saying Obama is an apostate, when in fact the claim is that Obama might be vulnerable to verbal – and potentially physical – attack from extremists who view him that way. And so while his argument might be wrong, isn’t it something we can ponder without being so reactionary about it? Even Ben Smith, who is used to support TP’s case here, suggests that Pipes could be acting as innocently as Bob Kerrey was.

]]> By: Fred http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/comment-page-3/#comment-4227824 Fred Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:59:00 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/beinart-barone-pipes/#comment-4227824 I also find it odd that you consider yourself a conservative yet you make your living from the public dole. A socialist program if you will….that is if you teach public school. Comment by Fred — January 14, 2008 @ 4:48 pm Easy, Fred. No need to insult Keltoi as being a hypocrite when we don’t know his attitude toward education policy. It’s not fair to tar him with the most extreme views of other conservatives in an effort to put him in a bad light. After all, some conservatives even support public education. Comment by ralph the wonder llama Fair enough. I also find it odd that you consider yourself a conservative yet you make your living from the public dole. A socialist program if you will….that is if you teach public school.

Comment by Fred — January 14, 2008 @ 4:48 pm

Easy, Fred. No need to insult Keltoi as being a hypocrite when we don’t know his attitude toward education policy.

It’s not fair to tar him with the most extreme views of other conservatives in an effort to put him in a bad light. After all, some conservatives even support public education.

Comment by ralph the wonder llama

Fair enough.

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