Perino Falsely Claims Bush Has Never Expressed ‘Anything But Support’ For Iran NIE
Perino Falsely Claims Bush Has Never Expressed ‘Anything But Support’ For Iran NIE
Today during a White House teleconference, a Fox News reporter asked whether President Bush “fully accepts” the conclusions of the latest NIE, which said that Iran had halted its nuclear weapons program in 2003.
“Has he admitted the possibility at all in his mind that the analysts may be wrong about this?” asked the reporter. Perino replied that Bush has not expressed “anything but support” for the NIE’s findings:
PERINO: I’ve not heard the President express anything but support for the intelligence community. But I think what he has said, and he has repeated both privately and publicly, is that he does not believe that the NIE that was produced — was it two months ago — should provide anyone any comfort that Iran is not a threat. In fact, it underscored for him and for many others, as we’ve learned from around this region, that they also believe that Iran remains a threat.
But over the weekend, Newsweek reported that in private meetings with Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Bush disowned the U.S. intelligence community’s judgments:
“He told the Israelis that he can’t control what the intelligence community says, but that [the NIE's] conclusions don’t reflect his own views” about Iran’s nuclear-weapons program, said the official, who would discuss intelligence matters only on the condition of anonymity.
The reporter said his question was based on exchanges Bush had with Fox News reporter Greta Van Susteren, who will be airing those interviews on Wednesday.
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He believed it before he stopped believing it and then started believing it before he finally stopped believing it.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:03 pmHe’ll tell them what to believe…..and they will believe it.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:07 pmLiar, liar, bunched up panties on fire.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:08 pmBush:
January 14th, 2008 at 5:08 pm“Iran is a threat! I believe that so it must be true!”
Even she, Perino, has to know that is an absolute LIE.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:09 pmShe had her hands over her ears and was saying, “la la la la la la…”, at the time Chimpy made his remarks.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:09 pmI’ve not heard the President express anything but support for the intelligence community
LOL Sure he supports the community just not what the community says.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:12 pmThis from Bush yesterday:
‘This new era is being built with the understanding that power is a trust that must be exercised with the consent of the governed,” Bush said at the opulent Emirates Palace hotel.’
he said as he tried to start a war with Iran against the wishes of the American people…
January 14th, 2008 at 5:12 pmPerino lying? NOOOOOOOOO!
I don’t believe it.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:13 pm“Perino Falsely Claims Bush Has Never Expressed ‘Anything But Support’ For Iran NIE”
Perino + Bush’s claims = CYA.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:17 pmWhat Perino meant was the President never intended to imply to skeptics in the US that he has utter contempt for his intelligence services. Implying that to Olmert is what we like to call “diplomacy.” What he really thinks is for him to know and for us to wonder.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:18 pmThe guy is just incompetent in every thing he does except bullshitting. Look at the picture. He’s even holding the sword backwards. Unbelievable. He’s got the cutting edge facing him.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:18 pmIt’s unfair to accuse Perino of lying when obviously she is too stupid to know which end is up.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:20 pmHe’s got the cutting edge facing him.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — January 14, 2008 @ 5:18 pm
Too funny. Any 4 year old boy would have figured that out, there has to be something wrong with him.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:21 pmWe’ve got you all figured out. We know that your boss is GHW Bush, and that his boss is David Rockefeller and that ultimately – their cause is the transfer of all resources, power and territory into the hands of the Global Elite, with Israel and the Crown as the primary drivers.
We know that “Poppy” is running drugs to fund the “Shadow Government.” We know that the white G5 jets with no tail numbers that fly in and out of Fort Lauderdale Executive Airport are GHW Bush / CIA jets running cash and drugs between Florida and Colombia.
We know the G5’s fly just 30′ above the wavetops on the return from just prior to Cuba all the way back to Miami center before popping up and exposing themselves on radar.
We know that Barry Seal was killed on Poppy’s orders – and we know that you are frightened as the entire house of cards comes tumbling down. We know how dangerous Israel’s blackmail of the Bush Crime Family is. We know that it’s Wild Cornered Animal Stage. We know about the False Flag attack on 9/11 – we know it was Israel, and we know that another one is imminent to justify Martial Law and the nuking of Iran.
We KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
The harder you work to silence us, the more clear it becomes that we are speaking the truth.
George HW Bush OWNS the CIA and runs it like a private enterprise. The DEA is in fact a protection racket designed specifically to ensure that only the small fish get caught, that no major competition for Poppy’s Crop is allowed to take too much market share, and to bamboozle the American Public into believing that you actually care about their health and well being.
The greatest danger to the plans of the global elite (Rockefeller and 300 other families) is the legalization of drugs in the US.
We know that dov Zakheim stole $7 trillion in the days prior to 9/11 to fund the coup.
The mainstream media and many Fortune 500 Companies are infiltrated with agents, and the MSM is run my Zionists for the benefit of AIPAC and the Globalist/Zionist agenda.
The American People are dead last on your list of concerns. We are merely sheeple to be controlled and disinformed.
We know EVERYTHING. It’s time for YOU to choose sides, because the truth is coming – and we are PISSED!
January 14th, 2008 at 5:23 pmA little off topic but I was wondering about the backup tapes that a judge ordered the administration to produce. I thought the administration was given very little time and I don’t recall seeing anything about the issue.
Was the judge capped?
January 14th, 2008 at 5:24 pmHe’s got the cutting edge facing him.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — January 14, 2008 @ 5:18 pm
LOL Good catch.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:24 pmView EVERYTHING in the context of a decades-long COVERUP of the activities of GHW Bush, W’s Father.
See This:
In November 2001, George W. Bush signed an executive order that upended the 1978 Presidential Records Act and permits the Bush Iran-Contra papers to be kept secret in perpetuity. The executive order also affects 60,000 pages of papers from the Reagan Presidential Library that include details of then-Vice President George H. W. Bush’s role in Iran-Contra. Robert Gates has always been a trusted consigliore for the Bush family.
At the Pentagon, he will undoubtedly use his two years to clean up for Dubya and suppress incriminating information on the Iraq debacle — all in a continuing effort to protect the Bush family legacy.”
waynemadsenreport.com
THIS IS CALLED “EVIDENCE.”
THIS IS CALLED “OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.”
GHW Bush is the biggest CRIMINAL in America.
All that has transpired since the Kennedy Assassination – he has been a part of.
His entire adult life has been about what he could get away with, and covering his tracks.
No matter what the most significant events have been in the past four-plus decades, 41’s fingers have been in it in some way.
Investigate this for yourself:
“GROUP 40″ – What was 41’s role?
Bay Of Pigs – What was 41’s role?
Kennedy Assassination – What was 41’s role?
http://www.planetquo.com/The-George-H-W-Bush-JFK-Murder-Connection
James Files, the confessed grassy knoll assassin – What was 41’s role?
http://www.planetquo.com/The-George-H-W-Bush-JFK-Murder-Connection
Iran Contra – What was 41’s role?
Mena Drug Running – What was 41’s role?
Iraq’s Invasion Of Kuwait – What was 41’s role?
New World Order – What was 41’s role?
Lewinski Sexpionage – What was 41’s role?
Osama Bin Laden – What was 41’s role?
Afghanistan Opium Production -What was 41’s role?
CIA / DEA Drug Running – What was 41’s role?
California Energy Crisis – What was 41’s role?
Carlyle Group – What was 41’s role?
9/11 – What was 41’s role?
Dictating US Policy Today – What IS 41’s role?
GHW BUSH IS STILL PRESIDENT.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:26 pmBush calls the NIE report a “view”? He said his “view” doesn’t agree with it. Isn’t the NIE a set of facts and findings (or the lack thereof) regarding whether Iran has a nuclear program? How can Bush suggest that this is an opinion? Bush probably thinks that gravity doesn’t exist and that the world is 6,000 years old. That’s because everything to Bush is a viewpoint or a matter of faith and nothing is factual.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:29 pmPlausible Deniability..?
“President Bush must fully disclose his participation in the selective leaking of classified information,” said Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid in a brief statement. “It’s time for the President to come clean about his involvement in the leak case.”
President Bush, 9/30/03:
“I don’t know of anybody in my administration who leaked classified information. If somebody did leak classified information, I’d like to know it, and we’ll take the appropriate action.”
President Bush, 9/30/03:
“If there is a leak out of my administration, I want to know who it is. And if the person has violated law, the person will be taken care of. . . . I have told our administration, people in my administration to be fully cooperative. I want to know the truth. If anybody has got any information inside our administration or outside our administration, it would be helpful if they came forward with the information so we can find out whether or not these allegations are true and get on about the business.”
President Bush, 10/28/03:
“I’d like to know if somebody in my White House did leak sensitive information.”
President Bush, 6/10/04:
Reporter: “Do you stand by your pledge to fire anyone found to have done so?”
President Bush: “Yes. And that’s up to the U.S. Attorney to find the facts.”
President Bush, 10/28/03:
“I want to know the truth. … I have no idea whether we’ll find out who the leaker is, partially because, in all due respect to your profession, you do a very good job of protecting the leakers.”
President Bush, 7/18/05 issue of USA Today: “If someone committed crime, they will no longer work in my administration.”
White House Press Secretary, 9/29/03:
“The President has set high standards, the highest of standards for people in his administration. He’s made it very clear to people in his administration that he expects them to adhere to the highest standards of conduct. If anyone in this administration was involved in it, they would no longer be in this administration.”
White House Press Secretary, 10/7/03:
“Let me answer what the President has said. I speak for the President and I’ll talk to you about what he wants . . .If someone leaked classified information, the President wants to know. If someone in this administration leaked classified information, they will no longer be a part of this administration, because that’s not the way this White House operates, that’s not the way this President expects people in his administration to conduct their business.”
It’s plausible…
January 14th, 2008 at 5:29 pmhttp://patrickjfitzgerald.blogspot.com
Plucked from the Database: ‘Al-Qaeda’ boogeymen all share a common past, hidden in plain sight
The ‘Powers That Be’ think Americans won’t remember arabic names – and they’re right!
Abdullah Azzam fought for the CIA in Afghanistan.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:31 pmAbu Abdel Aziz ‘Barbaros’ fought for the CIA in Afghanistan & Bosnia.
Osama bin Laden fought for the CIA in Afghanistan
Sheikh Omar Abdul-Rahman fought for the CIA in Afghanistan
Gulbaddin Hekmatyar fought for the CIA in Afghanistan
Abdurrab Rasul Sayyaf fought for the CIA in Afghanistan
Muhammad Jamal Khalifa fought for the CIA in Afghanistan
Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hamzi fought for the CIA in Bosnia
Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and his three brothers, Zahed, Abed, and Aref fought for the CIA in Afghanistan
Ayman Zawahiri
Ayman Zawahiri’s brother fought for the CIA in Kosovo.
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed also fought for the CIA in Bosnia
Hambali fought for the CIA in Afghanistan
Wali Khan fought for the CIA in Afghanistan
Ramzi Ahmed Yousef fought for the CIA in Afghanistan
Mohammed Haydar Zammar from Hamburg, fought for the CIA in Afghanistan & Bosnia
Abu Omar , aka Hassan Osama Nasr fought for the CIA in Afghanistan & Bosnia
Abu Hamza al-Masri fought for the CIA in Afghanistan & Bosnia
Ahmed Said Khadr fought for the CIA in Afghanistan
Jose Padilla & Mohamed Hesham Youssef fought for the CIA in Kosovo
Isn’t it possible to support something although it doesn’t reflect your own personal view?
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 14, 2008 @ 5:27 pm
it’s very easy for natural-born liars, like Republicans.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:33 pmCIA Renditions Inc.
Federal Aviation Agency records show that a Gulfstream III jet, tail number N829MG, followed a flight path matching the route he described. The flight, hopscotching from New Jersey to Virginia to Maine to Rome and beyond, took place on Oct. 8, 2002, the day after Arar’s deportation order was signed.
According to FAA flight logs for Oct. 8, 2002, only one aircraft flew that route: the 14-passenger Gulfstream III jet, operated by Presidential Aviation, a charter company in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
And best proof of all, the doj admits it:
In papers filed in a New York court replying to Arar’s lawsuit, Justice Department lawyers say Arar was deported to Syria based on secret information that he was a member of the Al-Qaeda, an accusation he denies.
Nigel England, director of operations for Presidential, said he would not divulge who rented the Gulfstream that day or discuss any clients.
Charles Miller, a Justice Department spokesman, said the government had no comment on the case. The administration has refused to cooperate with the Canadian inquiry into Arar’s case and has asked a judge to dismiss most of his lawsuit, saying that allowing it to proceed would reveal classified information.
President Bush has said it is US policy neither to engage in torture nor to deliver prisoners to countries where they are likely to be tortured.
PRESIDENT – Presidential Airways, Inc. – Sister Co. of AWS,
both owned by Blackwater USA, Melbourne, FL, mercenaries
AWS – Aviation Worldwide Services, LLC, sister company to
PRESIDENT, both owned by Blackwater USA, Melbourne, FL
PRESCOTT – Prescott Support Co. Had its name on HSL plane
PRESIDENT – Presidential Airways, Inc. – Sister Co. of AWS,
both owned by Blackwater USA, Melbourne, FL, mercenaries
NATIONAL – National Jets, Inc., Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
S&K – S&K Aviation, LLC. Gulfstream III got from PRESIDENT
HSL – HSL Company. Registered civilian Hercules C-130 oper-
ated by PRESCOTT Support Company
RAPID – Rapid Air Trans, Inc./Rapid Air Transportation, Inc.
Owns 3 civilian Hercules C-130s operated by TEPPER.
TEPPER – Tepper Aviation, Inc., Crestview, Florida.
http://wvl.indymedia.org/news/2006/01/4767.php
CIA fronts in the nineties:
http://www.totse.com/en/politics/central_intelligence_agency/ciaprop1.html
CIA Aircraft:
http://colorado.indymedia.org/newswire/display/12358/index.php
http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:8KbmfeqvTkUJ:www.statewatch.org/cia/documents/cia-planes-snp-Scotland.pdf+lauderdale+cia+GV&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1
Many of the Learjets associated with CIA renditions came from the World Jet, Inc. fleet of the notorious Whittington brothers of Fort Lauderdale, who were later indicted for their 1980s narcotics smuggling. One of their clients was notorious CIA drug smuggler Barry Seal who was later assassinated to keep him silent. Four Learjets have been identified by European sources and FAA data as CIA rendition planes: N252WJ, N500ND, N200LJ, and N229WJ. Some of them, and Turks Air’s N381AA, have made stops in Guantanamo. The current and former World Jet planes that have stopped in Guantanamo are: N229WJ, N500ND, and N252WJ.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:33 pmThey ought to let Perino “google” those questions before answering them.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:38 pmBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP…..my lie detecter just went off.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:38 pmThe chymp looks like he’s afraid he’s going to cut himself on that scimitar…
Notice how the king has his raised, and the chymp has his backwards.
Typical.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:41 pm15) plunger. you’re right on. The sad thing is that this cannot be publicly debated, without the opposition the the grand plan being labeled anti-semitic. This eliminates any useful dialog, allows Israel to continue its opression and stealing of Palestinian lands. No one anyswhere in any administration will do anything different. It’s suicide, and probably not just political.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:41 pmable as
apologies to the good Colonel, I came in late..
January 14th, 2008 at 5:42 pmJust like we had no real choice with Kerry and Bush (both Skull & Bones guys) it feels like we have no real choice with any of the prez candidates for real change since they all seem to be obediently supporting Israel at the expense of any other human rights’ abuses currently going on. I despair at the lack of real choices, at the sense that no matter what happens nothing will really change.
At this point I’m holding out a sliver of hope that when the Dem nominee has elected she/he will chart their own, hopefully well-thought out and enlightened, path.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:46 pmShe neglected to add “on U.S. soil”
January 14th, 2008 at 5:47 pmit looks like dubbya is holding that sword
January 14th, 2008 at 5:47 pmwith the business side facing towards him…
Hey Dana – Did Bush tell his surrogates not to denigrate the Intelligence community in light of its NIE findings? NOT! Was the President incapable of defending his own intelligence agencies in light of these attacks by his surrogates?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,315742,00.html
U.S. hardliners on Iran are saying the intelligence document is too ridden with internal political squabbles to be credible.
“That such a flawed product could emerge after a drawn-out bureaucratic struggle is extremely troubling,” John Bolton, one of the chief proponents of sanctions to stop the Iranian weapons program, wrote Thursday’s Washington Post.
Republican presidential contender Fred Thompson drew his line in the sand, issuing a statement saying: “The accuracy of the latest NIE on Iran should be received with a good deal of skepticism. Our intelligence community has often underestimated the intentions of adversaries, including Saddam Hussein’s Iraq and North Korea.”
Saying the report is “awfully convenient for a lot of people,” Thompson continued, “the administration gets to say its policies worked; the Democrats get to claim we should have eased up on Iran a long time ago: and Russia and China can claim sanctions on Iran are not necessary. Who benefits from all this? Iran.”
The Wall Street Journal editorial page — one of many conservative opinion-makers to question the report authors’ credibility — wrote Wednesday: “Our own ‘confidence’ is not heightened by the fact that the NIE’s main authors include three former State Department officials with previous reputations as ‘hyper-partisan anti-Bush officials.’ “The Journal named former State Department officials Tom Fingar, Vann Van Diepin and Kenneth Brill.
Conservative talk radio, which is widely credited with helping destroy support for the immigration reform bill supported by the president last year, is also less than glowing toward the report. “I guarantee there’s more sabotage coming out of that place regarding the Bush administration,” Rush Limbaugh said of the State Department.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:48 pmDavid Wurmser actively participated in the following events:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=david_wurmser
His wife is Meyrav Wurmser – even more evil:
“The CDI’s Ledeen, Amitay and Sobhani were featured speakers at a May 2003 forum on “the future of Iran’ sponsored by AEI, the Hudson Institute and the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. The forum, chaired by the Hudson Institute’s Meyrav Wurmser, the Israeli-born wife of David Wurmser (he serves as Cheney’s leading expert on Iran and Syria), included a presentation by Un Lubrani of Israel’s Ministry of Defense.
Summarizing the sentiment of neoconservative ideologues and strategists, Meyrav Wurmser said: “Our fight against Iraq was only a battle in a long war. It would be ill-conceived to think we can deal with Iraq alone. We must move on, and faster.”
JINSA, a neoconservative organization established in 1976 that fosters closer strategic and military ties between the United States and Israel, also has its sights on Iran. At a JINSA policy forum in April 2003 titled “Time to Focus on Iran-The Mother of Modern Terrorism,” Ledeen declared, “The time for diplomacy is at an end; it is time for a free Iran, free Syria and free Lebanon.”
JINSA, along with CSP, serves as one of the main institutional links to the military-industrial complex for neoconservatives. Ledeen served as JINSA’s first executive director and was JINSA’s “Godfather,” according to Amitay. Amitay is a JINSA vice chair. JINSA board members or advisers also include former CIA director James Woolsey, former Rep. Jack Kemp and the AEI’s Joshua Muravchik. After he joined the administration, Feith resigned from JINSA.’s board of advisers, as did Vice President Dick Cheney and Undersecretary of State for Arms Control John Bolton.”
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Central_Asia_watch/Is_Iran_Next.html
January 14th, 2008 at 5:53 pmAh thank you plunger for some much needed comic relief!
“That such a flawed product could emerge after a drawn-out bureaucratic struggle is extremely troubling,†John Bolton
AND go on to be considered a credible mouthpiece no less! LOL
January 14th, 2008 at 5:55 pmThe guy is just incompetent in every thing he does except bullshitting. Look at the picture. He’s even holding the sword backwards. Unbelievable. He’s got the cutting edge facing him.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — January 14, 2008 @ 5:18 pm
And the guy behind him in the suit is cracking up.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:56 pmPhilip Zelikow – PsyOps Operative
http://www.ichblog.eu/content/view/32/1/
The Bush administration is very serious about controlling information. That’s why they launched the Pentagon’s Dept of Strategic Information. The military is now deeply engaged in “full spectrum dominance†of all information technologies.
Consequently, “controlling the narrative†is more important than one might think. Propaganda is the cheapest and most effective way to control public behavior.
The Bush administration has made some notable contributions to the traditional propaganda-paradigm. In fact, former Counselor at the State Dept, Philip Zelikow, (who was also executive director of the 9-11 Commission) is an expert in “the creation and maintenance of ‘public myths’ or ‘public presumptions’, which he defines as beliefs thought to be true although not necessarily known to be true with certainty, shared in common with the relevant political community. He has taken a special interest in ‘searing’ or ‘molding’ events that take on ‘transcendent’ importance and, therefore, retain there power even as the experiencing generation passes from the sceneâ€.
“In the Nov-Dec 1998 issue of Foreign Affairs he co-authored an article called ‘Catastrophic Terrorism’ in which he speculated that if the 1993 bombing of the World Trade center had succeeded ‘the resulting horror and chaos would have exceeded our ability to describe it. Such an act of catastrophic terrorism would be a watershed event in American history. ‘It could involve loss of life and property unprecedented in peacetime and undermine America’s fundamental sense of security. The US might respond with draconian measures scaling back civil liberties, allowing wider surveillance of citizens, detention of suspects and use of deadly force.
The previous paragraph is WRITTEN IN 1998!?! 3 YEARS BEFORE 9-11!
Where, one might ask, did Zelikow get his crystal ball?
Isn’t this the exact blueprint for what is taking place right now?
Zelikow has figured out that the real essence of controlling behavior is not simply “propagating†ideas but understanding how humans process information.
Both 9-11 and the blowing up of the Golden dome Mosque are examples of how this theory works.
January 14th, 2008 at 5:59 pmPerino’s tenure is coming to an end. She’s become a blathering idiot and obvious sycophant making statements like this. Flick the channel when this moron comes on to speak. It’s nothing but pure lies.
January 14th, 2008 at 6:01 pmBush looks like a raving lunatic in this sword photo. These years of lies are making him look older than his pruned-up dad and that’s saying something.
January 14th, 2008 at 6:02 pmi wasn’t sure i was seeing that till i just read this:
He’s even holding the sword backwards. Unbelievable. He’s got the cutting edge facing him.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — January 14, 2008 @ 5:18 pm
validation!
January 14th, 2008 at 6:03 pmI can see it now: The rest of the world already call Bush “the butcher”. BUTCHER BUSH is the perfect caption for this photo.
January 14th, 2008 at 6:03 pmNo one works harder or more strategically to foster anti-Semitism than Israel itself.
No one.
This is the fundamental basis of Zionism.
Zionism cannot survive without anti-semitism.
Love your Jewish friends and neighbors.
Defeat Zionism.
January 14th, 2008 at 6:05 pmPerino said:
I’ve not heard the President express anything but support for the intelligence community.
Now, in all fairness to the Lying Sack of Cuteâ„¢, it’s entirely possible that SHE has not HEARD Bush express anything but support for the intelligence community.
It doesn’t really answer the question, but maybe that’s the only way she could avoid either lying or saying something politically damaging.
And, after all, the remarks reported by Newsweek were in a private meeting, so Dana probably didn’t HEAR Bush say those words.
January 14th, 2008 at 6:06 pmThis is Zionism in reality:
Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has urged all French Jews to move to Israel immediately to escape anti-Semitism.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3904943.stm
The Israeli prime minister has told Jews in Italy the best way to escape “a great wave of anti-Semitism” is to move and settle in the state of Israel.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3275979.stm
Strange Bedfellows – Anti-Semitism
and Zionism
By Christopher Bollyn
American Free Press
11-24-3
Jewish billionaire George Soros was criticized recently for saying that Israeli policies provoke anti-Semitism. Yet it is well known that Zionist extremists like Ariel Sharon have fomented anti-Semitism over the years for one fundamental reason – Israel needs more Jews.
“There is a resurgence of anti-Semitism in Europe,” Jewish billionaire George Soros told the Jewish Funders Network (JFL) in New York on November 5. “The policies of the Bush administration and the Sharon administration contribute to that,” he said. “If we change that direction, then anti-Semitism also will diminish.”
While most observers would say that Soros was merely stating the obvious, his comments reportedly caused “major shock” in the Jewish community as American-Jewish leaders reacted with “unusual vehemence.”
As a new global campaign against “anti-Semitism” is launched, the way Zionists use anti-Semitism needs to be understood: Zionist extremists like Ariel Sharon have always fostered and fomented anti-Semitism for one primary reason ñ to compel Jews to come to Israel. Without anti-Semitism pushing more Jews to Israel the Zionist project is doomed to fail.
“If Israel is weakened,” Sharon said, “the Jews worldwide will not be able to live the lives they live today. We are witness to a great wave of anti-Semitism,” Sharon said, “and apart from the usual anti-Semitism against Jews, there is today the added hate of the collective Jew, which is Israel.”
Sharon’s comments reveal the Zionist logic about anti-Semitism: “The best solution to anti-Semitism,” Sharon said, “is immigration to Israel. It is the only place on Earth where Jews can live as Jews.”
Sharon’s goal today is the same as it has always been for Zionists to bring more Jews to Israel.
http://www.rense.com/general45/anati.htm...
Do you get it???
January 14th, 2008 at 6:07 pmI support the intelligence community also. But that doesn’t mean they get it right every time.
Take Iraq for example.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — January 14, 2008 @ 6:07 pm
WHEN was he Ambassador to Italy? Does 2002 ring any bells in your head? Well it should– remember all the secret meetings in Italy involving Ledeen et al, and the forged documents about uranium from Africa that turned up at the US Embassy that October? Yes, THAT October 2002…. So we have Sembler at the scene of the crime related to the crime Scooter is being investigated for.
WHO ELSE HAS RUSHED TO LIBBY’S DEFENSE?
Sounds like a PNAC Picnic roster…
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/4299
WHY DID ISRAEL WANT THE US TO INVADE IRAQ, AND INVENT FALSE INTELLIGENCE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN?
http://www.nogw.com/warforisrael.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A5165-2005Mar3.html?sub=AR
http://italy.indymedia.org/news/2005/03/757886.php
Gov. Jeb Bush once named a “Betty Sembler Day” in Florida to honor his wife’s ongoing, taxpayer-funded campaigns on behalf of workplace urine tests.
http://media.orkut.com/articles/0145.html
January 14th, 2008 at 6:10 pmWhere is the investigation into the forged Niger Document that Bush included in his SOTU that resulted in War?
Ledeen did it at Feith and Cheney’s behest.
A fellow at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, Ledeen holds a Ph.D. in History and Philosophy from the University of Wisconsin. In 1983, on the recommendation of Richard Perle, Ledeen was hired at the Department of Defense as a consultant on terrorism. While being investigated as a security risk by his supervisor, Noel Koch, it was learned from the CIA station that Ledeen had been carried in Agency files as an agent of influence of a foreign government: Israel.
After having his access to classified materials blocked he ceased working there. He next appeared at the National Security Council as a consultant working with NSC head Robert McFarlane. Ledeen was involved in the transfer of arms to Iran during the Iran-Contra affair — an adventure that he documented in the book “Perilous Statecraft: An Insider’s Account of the Iran-Contra Affair.” A prominent member of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA) board of governors and the Center for Security Policy (CSP), he advocates “total war” inline with the “Grand Strategy for the Middle East” which advocates “Iraq as the tactical pivot, Saudi Arabia as the strategic pivot and Egypt as the prize.” Ledeen is presently a serving member on the China Commission and, with the support of DOD Undersecretary for Policy Douglas Feith, he has since 2001 been employed as a consultant for the Office of Special Plans OSP). He is involved in the handling of classified materials and has high-level security clearances. He was also involved in election rigging of the 2000 election.
http://www.nogw.com/warforisrael.html
January 14th, 2008 at 6:12 pmPerino bimbo is as much of a lier as the War Criminals she is serving!
January 14th, 2008 at 6:15 pmBigfoot: “I support the intelligence community also. But that doesn’t mean they get it right every time.
Take Iraq for example.”
Why do people like you persist in pushing this mythology. The intelligence community actually got it correctly. As we now know, the Bush administration created its own sub-department which cherry-picked questionable intelligence reports to paint the picture it wanted for political purposes, ie, “fixed the facts around the policy.” Then, when they couldn’t find any WMD’s, they simply blamed the intelligence community. That’s the fundamental reason why there has been animosity between current and former intelligence agency professionals and the Bush administration.
January 14th, 2008 at 6:33 pmPlunger,
The view that the actions of the Bush administration and the rest of the “powers that be” are the puppets of Israel is counter productive. They act for themselves. It is that simple. They love the money and Bush especially, loves the power. They have labeled “Islamofascists” the new enemy and by extension Arabs and Muslims. Israel is a propaganda tool for them to instill fear just like 9/11 and the “jihadis”. They are not taking orders from them. If it would help their cause to bomb Israel they would.
It is a shame that you are focusing your anger on Israel instead of our government. The Israel, Palestine debate is extremely valid and both sides have been unreasonable at times. The US is not helping the matter by picking a side instead of being an impartial moderator; however, our actions in Iraq and Iran is exasperating all the hatred. Our energy should be focused where it will do good – taking back our government and setting it on the right track to be a leader in this world. We should be striving to get our moral authority back by practicing the ideals of justice and democracy that we preach to the rest of the world.
Blaming Israel for our negligence and harmful government and our apathy as citizens is irrational prejudice. It may not be prejudice against Jewish people, but when Israel is a “Jewish State” it certainly seems that way. That is why that view is labeled as anti-semitic.
January 14th, 2008 at 6:36 pmAnd what people (mostly us lefties) can’t seem to get through our melons is that there is a huge percentage of Isralies who are for reconciliation, a Palestinian state, shutting down the Isralie settlements in Palestinian territories and making concessions to the Palestinians to make a peaceful settlement. They’re called moderate and liberal Isralies. We just don’t hear much about them.
January 14th, 2008 at 6:47 pmPERINO: I’ve not heard the President express anything but support for the intelligence community.
This is literally true. She had her fingers in her ears. “Plausible deniability”, you know.
Cheers,
January 14th, 2008 at 6:58 pmGood Point Jack!
It is also interesting to point out that the Jewish community in the United States has been among the most liberal segments of American Society for a long time. The majority of Jews vote Democratic.
I am not sure where all this Israel conspiracy and manipulation of the government comes from, but smells very familiar to the scapegoating that the right does to the Arabs, Muslims and “terrists”. Let’s take responsibility for OUR government and fix our own problems instead of looking for others to blame.
(I was brought up Jewish, but I have crossed over to heathen now).
January 14th, 2008 at 6:59 pmNote: in the picture you will notice that they gave Bush a “Rubber” sword just to be safe.
Buck Fush
January 14th, 2008 at 6:59 pmI hate to admit it, but I have to agree with CaptainMantastic (too bad it isn’t on anything important). If you look at the picture closely, you can tell he is holding the sword with the blade facing away and rotated a little to the right. It then looks like the curve is the wrong direction, but it is just the camera getting the “left” side (as you – or chimpy – is holding it) of the blade instead of the right side (like the King’s).
Either way, doesn’t change the fact that our President is dumber than a box of rocks. (Ok, maybe that was uncalled for).
January 14th, 2008 at 7:06 pmCaptain Mantastic: “I think we might all be seeing things the way we want to see them:”
Fair enough, but keep in mind that we’re talking about a guy who has multiple faceplants riding his bicycle, passed out eating a pretzel and couldn’t even keep from doing a header off of a Seque in his Pop’s driveway. There’s a pretty healthy record of bumbling and incompetence we’re working with here. He’s not exactly graceful – I think even Ford had more coordination.
January 14th, 2008 at 7:13 pmDan: “I am not sure where all this Israel conspiracy and manipulation of the government comes from…”
Come on, sure you are – it came from the early to baroque Catholic church. It’s the same thing that led to countless pogroms, forced expulsions, torture and humiliation for centuries culminating with a bunch of good catholics staring off into space while their Jewish neighbors were led off to concentration camps. It’s called anti-semitism and it’s origins lie in a church hierarchy desparate to find anyone but the Roman government to blame for the execution of their savior.
January 14th, 2008 at 7:18 pmsorry for the typo – its origins, not it’s origins
January 14th, 2008 at 7:19 pmRegardless of how he holds a sword, Dubya is getting the real work of America done over there: selling arms and munitions, including some extra special goodies.
January 14th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
US to Sell Precision-Guided Bombs to Saudi Arabia Part of $20 Billion package
Should Congress Block this Arms Deal?
http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1536
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January 14th, 2008 at 7:25 pmCaption:
“Guest executioner? Heh heh, you really think so? Heh heh…”
January 14th, 2008 at 7:28 pmUnbelievable that conservative Jews and Isralies support this guy. He’s done more to threaten their existence than all modern Presidents before him put together.
January 14th, 2008 at 7:31 pmCaption Contest:
“Huh, Made in China… whadda ya know…..
January 14th, 2008 at 7:37 pmBush w/ a sword?
Start ducking before you lose an ear, folks.
January 14th, 2008 at 7:38 pmCaption Contest:
“I can keep it?! Really?!
January 14th, 2008 at 7:47 pmWill it work for cutting brush back home?”
Caption Contest:
“There can be only one!”
January 14th, 2008 at 8:16 pmCaption:
“Boy, I tell you. This would have come in handy last month when I had that little problem with a BM.”
January 14th, 2008 at 8:59 pmOh, go easy on Ms. “Farina” Perrino it’s not easy to hear correctly when one is busy cleaning under Mr. Bush’s desk. It’s a job, though, and one in which will make her millions in book rights. That’s all that’s important, right?
January 14th, 2008 at 9:15 pmCaption contest:
Yes, that’s right, you’re holding your sword against yourself…now why don’t you show us how you can swallow it?
January 14th, 2008 at 9:20 pm#81 BARTLEBEE
Not since Newt Gingrich wrote his book and made millions…nope, reading is not a necessity anymore…in fact the facts just gt in the way of a good fiction.
January 14th, 2008 at 9:24 pmCaption Contest:
Nastiest red-neck accent I can manage.
“Now, what the heck you do with this thing?”
January 14th, 2008 at 9:25 pm#83- typo: gt = get, sorry!!
January 14th, 2008 at 9:26 pmHey Dana, how’s that dumber than a rock thing working out?
January 14th, 2008 at 10:10 pm“You’re missing the point of plunger’s remarks. He is demonstrating that officials in the U.S. have been acting in concert with a foreign power to violate the rights of persons worldwide.”
He might want to have stopped short of saying Jews bring it on themselves, then.
January 14th, 2008 at 11:33 pmCaption Contest: “Wait till I show this to Dick”.
January 15th, 2008 at 1:44 amThe guy is just incompetent in every thing he does except bullshitting. Look at the picture. He’s even holding the sword backwards. Unbelievable. He’s got the cutting edge facing him.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — January 14, 2008 @ 5:18 pm
Nah, is the Bizarro World way of holding any one-sided cutting edge. Towards the user.
January 15th, 2008 at 7:10 amCaptain Mantastic: “I think we might all be seeing things the way we want to see them:â€
Fair enough, but keep in mind that we’re talking about a guy who has multiple faceplants riding his bicycle, passed out eating a pretzel and couldn’t even keep from doing a header off of a Seque in his Pop’s driveway. There’s a pretty healthy record of bumbling and incompetence we’re working with here. He’s not exactly graceful – I think even Ford had more coordination.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — January 14, 2008 @ 7:13 pm
Don’t forget the closed door (failed) atempt of escape.
January 15th, 2008 at 7:20 amI can’t wait to hear you losers whine when Iran gets what’s coming to them…
January 15th, 2008 at 9:38 amI know this is late and probably won’t get seen; but I will respond.
I appreciate you point, but I don’t see how blaming Israel for USA actions is equivalent to Germans condemning the German government for treating Jews horribly. A correct analogy is blaming Japan or some other country for what Hitler was doing. Helps to obfuscate the real issue.
Condemning Israel for the treatment of Palestinians is not the issue. No one that I know will label you anti-semitic for that. That is a valid point and although I think Israel is in a tough predicament, they are not always in the right.
Blaming Israel for OUR foreign policy, that is the problem. Not agreeing with our policy unconditionally supporting Israel is legitimate (and I agree with you), but when you suggest that a specific nation is covertly influencing our policy and imply that there are some Israeli (Jewish) puppet masters behind the abhorrent actions of the US only helps scapegoat, cloud the issues, and avoid fixing the real problems.
Our policy ABOUT Israel is not the best, but Israel is not guiding our policy. Focusing on the “Israeli” influence in our government is not going to solve our wide range of problems. We USE Israel for our purposes.
January 15th, 2008 at 9:41 amSaber Rattling.
Literally!
January 15th, 2008 at 10:21 amI can’t wait to hear you losers whine when Iran gets what’s coming to them…
Comment by Neocon — January 15, 2008 @ 9:38 am
You mean the flow of Euros when they change the currency they use to sell oil, isn’t? When the Dollar sinks even more in the hole it is?
January 15th, 2008 at 11:18 am“”"”"Bush Disowns U.S. Intel, Tells Israelis Iran NIE ‘Doesn’t Reflect My Own Views’”"”"”
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/13/bush-israelis-nie/
January 15th, 2008 at 1:40 pmBush Spokesliar Dana Perino’s hair will quickly turn gray and she’ll contract some disease like cancer…from lying so much…
January 15th, 2008 at 1:42 pmYeah, your job is to defend and protect the constitution!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 18th, 2008 at 10:15 am