Comments on: Gates recommends Afghanistan surge. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:36:33 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: doro http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/comment-page-2/#comment-4228527 doro Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:45:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/#comment-4228527 What a <a href="http://tpzoo.wordpress.com/2008/01/14/in-the-middle-east-an-ongoing-crisis-deepens/" rel="nofollow">surprise</a>! The middle east was always an unruly region but now, after seven years of Bush's pacifying and democratizing it's a political nightmare! What a surprise! The middle east was always an unruly region but now, after seven years of Bush’s pacifying and democratizing it’s a political nightmare!

]]> By: dlet http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/comment-page-2/#comment-4228281 dlet Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:22:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/#comment-4228281 Additional surges in Afghanistan, saber rattling against Iran, overly hyped "threats" from Iranian speedboats, threats of war against Iran from our Presidunce, Bush telling the Olmert he doesn't believe the Iran NIE, increase in aerial bombardments in Iraq......all this while Bush is on a "peace trip" in the ME. The surprising thing is that this type of shite still surprises me. Additional surges in Afghanistan, saber rattling against Iran, overly hyped “threats” from Iranian speedboats, threats of war against Iran from our Presidunce, Bush telling the Olmert he doesn’t believe the Iran NIE, increase in aerial bombardments in Iraq……all this while Bush is on a “peace trip” in the ME.

The surprising thing is that this type of shite still surprises me.

]]> By: americangoy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/comment-page-1/#comment-4228184 americangoy Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:06:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/#comment-4228184 Army recruitment broadcasts during NFL games? S**t man, watch Telemundo or Univision. During halftime soccer match, it is ALL Army ALL the time. Army recruitment broadcasts during NFL games?

S**t man, watch Telemundo or Univision. During halftime soccer match, it is ALL Army ALL the time.

]]> By: Sabyen91 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/comment-page-1/#comment-4228170 Sabyen91 Tue, 15 Jan 2008 04:35:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/#comment-4228170 "I doubt you have noticed, LP, but there is consensus now that the surge has worked." Again, worked? How? “I doubt you have noticed, LP, but there is consensus now that the surge has worked.”

Again, worked? How?

]]> By: Sabyen91 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/comment-page-1/#comment-4228169 Sabyen91 Tue, 15 Jan 2008 04:35:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/#comment-4228169 " He did suggest that the surge was/has worked and said the situation is much more stable." And yet we are no closer to peace, are we? A temporary dip in violence doesn't mean anything. The Iraqi government is no more stable now than in the past 4 years. ” He did suggest that the surge was/has worked and said the situation is much more stable.”

And yet we are no closer to peace, are we? A temporary dip in violence doesn’t mean anything. The Iraqi government is no more stable now than in the past 4 years.

]]> By: citizen_pain http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/comment-page-1/#comment-4228054 citizen_pain Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:25:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/#comment-4228054 Yeah, and Hitler thought the tide of war had changed when FDR died. Those who are delusional are just that. Yeah, and Hitler thought the tide of war had changed when FDR died. Those who are delusional are just that.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/comment-page-1/#comment-4228048 Lefty Patriot Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:16:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/#comment-4228048 It just goes on and on and I can’t believe supporters don’t notice. Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — January 14, 2008 @ 7:54 pm mass hypnosis is very effective on the slow. It just goes on and on and I can’t believe supporters don’t notice.

Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — January 14, 2008 @ 7:54 pm

mass hypnosis is very effective on the slow.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/comment-page-1/#comment-4228046 Lefty Patriot Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:15:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/#comment-4228046 bigfoot and the captain aren't happy with the death rate of American troops, since the Bushco buyout has worked a little. Send them to Afghanistan, then they can die in more satisfactory numbers for the blood-lust of coward republicans. the surge is not omnly a failure, but a clear indication that the whole invasion and mass-murder of innocents was a failure to begin with. republicans have on expertise: failure. bigfoot and the captain aren’t happy with the death rate of American troops, since the Bushco buyout has worked a little. Send them to Afghanistan, then they can die in more satisfactory numbers for the blood-lust of coward republicans. the surge is not omnly a failure, but a clear indication that the whole invasion and mass-murder of innocents was a failure to begin with. republicans have on expertise: failure.

]]> By: wisedup http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/comment-page-1/#comment-4228045 wisedup Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:11:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/#comment-4228045 Col.Jack Ripper, you realize your trying to talk sense to a Troll trying anything to sway anyone to the right. Only way to deal with this is to put him/her and other trolls on permanent 'Ignor'. Col.Jack Ripper, you realize your trying to talk sense to a Troll trying anything to sway anyone to the right. Only way to deal with this is to put him/her and other trolls on permanent ‘Ignor’.

]]> By: 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/comment-page-1/#comment-4228042 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:02:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/#comment-4228042 2millionLightYears: “So you agree with all of Edward’s positions?” Hey, no offense intended to you on Kucinich. But I do agree with the central premises of Edwards’ campaign I agree with Edwards' campaign stance as well. I'm just not convinced yet that he's being honest. He certainly wasn't the type of Senator he's claiming he'd be as President. He voted for the Patriot Act correct? The Iraq War too? Did he undergo a transformation? If it's a genuine transformation I'd be willing to vote for him when the day comes. I need more convincing. 2millionLightYears: “So you agree with all of Edward’s positions?”

Hey, no offense intended to you on Kucinich. But I do agree with the central premises of Edwards’ campaign

I agree with Edwards’ campaign stance as well. I’m just not convinced yet that he’s being honest. He certainly wasn’t the type of Senator he’s claiming he’d be as President. He voted for the Patriot Act correct? The Iraq War too? Did he undergo a transformation? If it’s a genuine transformation I’d be willing to vote for him when the day comes. I need more convincing.

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/comment-page-1/#comment-4228037 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:54:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/#comment-4228037 Captain Mantastic, I wasn't really talking about disagreement on policy. I was talking about a record of almost continuously lying about policy, distorting facts for domestic political purposes and "bait and switch" type manipulations of message. Whether or not you agree with the policy, you have to notice that there have been lies and distortions about it almost from the beginning. There are numerous examples: we now know that they discussed greater evesdropping on the public with AT&T early in 2001, so when Bush says that the greater emphasis on this was a response to the 9-11 attack, that's a lie; we've all seen the stated reasons for the invasion of Iraq change with the political landscape - how many changes have we seen so far? Four or five? It just goes on and on and I can't believe supporters don't notice. Captain Mantastic, I wasn’t really talking about disagreement on policy. I was talking about a record of almost continuously lying about policy, distorting facts for domestic political purposes and “bait and switch” type manipulations of message. Whether or not you agree with the policy, you have to notice that there have been lies and distortions about it almost from the beginning. There are numerous examples: we now know that they discussed greater evesdropping on the public with AT&T early in 2001, so when Bush says that the greater emphasis on this was a response to the 9-11 attack, that’s a lie; we’ve all seen the stated reasons for the invasion of Iraq change with the political landscape – how many changes have we seen so far? Four or five? It just goes on and on and I can’t believe supporters don’t notice.

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/comment-page-1/#comment-4228034 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:48:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/#comment-4228034 2millionLightYears: "So you agree with all of Edward’s positions?" Hey, no offense intended to you on Kucinich. But I do agree with the central premises of Edwards' campaign - large corporations have far too much political power in our system and that power needs to be taken away, not negotiated with. Free trade is a bogus corporate bait and switch - we need to rebuild our manufacturing sector with tariffs. The tax system is horrendously weighted in favor of the most wealthy - as he keeps pointing out, Warren Buffett has offered $1 million in cash to any of the Fortune 400 who can prove that they pay a greater rate in taxes than their secretaries and none of them has taken him up on the offer. 2millionLightYears: “So you agree with all of Edward’s positions?”

Hey, no offense intended to you on Kucinich. But I do agree with the central premises of Edwards’ campaign – large corporations have far too much political power in our system and that power needs to be taken away, not negotiated with. Free trade is a bogus corporate bait and switch – we need to rebuild our manufacturing sector with tariffs. The tax system is horrendously weighted in favor of the most wealthy – as he keeps pointing out, Warren Buffett has offered $1 million in cash to any of the Fortune 400 who can prove that they pay a greater rate in taxes than their secretaries and none of them has taken him up on the offer.

]]> By: 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/comment-page-1/#comment-4228028 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:40:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/#comment-4228028 The primary contender for Kucinich’s seat has put up “MISSING” posters all over Cleveland. Comment by Wilco — January 14, 2008 @ 7:27 pm Sounds like a losing strategy to me. I think he still has like a 90% voting record, the highest for all the Presidential candidates. Dennis is still doing his Congressional job. I think the people of Ohio are smart enough to understand that Dennis is playing a crucial role running for President. He's injecting ideas into the discussion that'd otherwise be buried. Ending the war, impeachment, single-payer healthcare. All these proposals would benefit the people of Ohio. The primary contender for Kucinich’s seat has put up “MISSING” posters all over Cleveland.

Comment by Wilco — January 14, 2008 @ 7:27 pm

Sounds like a losing strategy to me. I think he still has like a 90% voting record, the highest for all the Presidential candidates. Dennis is still doing his Congressional job.

I think the people of Ohio are smart enough to understand that Dennis is playing a crucial role running for President. He’s injecting ideas into the discussion that’d otherwise be buried. Ending the war, impeachment, single-payer healthcare. All these proposals would benefit the people of Ohio.

]]> By: 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/comment-page-1/#comment-4228022 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:33:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/#comment-4228022 Kucinich? Whatever. He lost my respect when the petulant little a-hole told his people to go with Obama instead of Edwards,... Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — January 14, 2008 @ 7:23 pm You're a tough man to please. So you agree with all of Edward's positions? Kucinich? Whatever. He lost my respect when the petulant little a-hole told his people to go with Obama instead of Edwards,…

Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — January 14, 2008 @ 7:23 pm

You’re a tough man to please. So you agree with all of Edward’s positions?

]]> By: The Republic of Stupidity http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/comment-page-1/#comment-4228014 The Republic of Stupidity Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:27:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/#comment-4228014 You appear to be self-deluded and corrupt. Comment by Marcus Aurelius — January 14, 2008 @ 6:45 pm "Appear"? I think the word you're looking for is "are", as in, "you ARE self-deluded...". You appear to be self-deluded and corrupt.

Comment by Marcus Aurelius — January 14, 2008 @ 6:45 pm

“Appear”? I think the word you’re looking for is “are”, as in, “you ARE self-deluded…”.

]]> By: Wilco http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/comment-page-1/#comment-4228013 Wilco Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:27:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/#comment-4228013 The primary contender for Kucinich's seat has put up "MISSING" posters all over Cleveland. The primary contender for Kucinich’s seat has put up “MISSING” posters all over Cleveland.

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/comment-page-1/#comment-4228010 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:23:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/#comment-4228010 Kucinich? Whatever. He lost my respect when the petulant little a-hole told his people to go with Obama instead of Edwards, who is the only frontrunner even close to his positions. The little prick wants to be the only populist in the contest and he just can't stand the fact that Edwards steals his thunder. Kucinich? Whatever. He lost my respect when the petulant little a-hole told his people to go with Obama instead of Edwards, who is the only frontrunner even close to his positions. The little prick wants to be the only populist in the contest and he just can’t stand the fact that Edwards steals his thunder.

]]> By: 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/comment-page-1/#comment-4228007 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:19:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/#comment-4228007 OT - BREAKING NEWS <strong>DENNIS KUCINICH MAY BE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE NBC NEVADA DEBATE!!!</strong> A judge sided today with Democratic presidential hopeful Dennis Kucinich and said he will allow him to take part in Tuesday’s Democratic presidential debate in Las Vegas. Alternate District Judge J. Charles Thompson said he will grant a preliminary injunction allowing Kucinich to take part in the debate and will sign the order around 4 p.m. Attorney Don Campbell, who is representing NBC Universal Inc., which is hosting the debate, said after the hearing that it was too early to say what NBC will do if the order is issued. Kucinich’s attorney, William McGaha, said he was pleased with the upcoming ruling. “It’s in everybody’s interest to have the debate and with as many different political viewpoints,” he said. OT – BREAKING NEWS

DENNIS KUCINICH MAY BE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE NBC NEVADA DEBATE!!!

A judge sided today with Democratic presidential hopeful Dennis Kucinich and said he will allow him to take part in Tuesday’s Democratic presidential debate in Las Vegas.

Alternate District Judge J. Charles Thompson said he will grant a preliminary injunction allowing Kucinich to take part in the debate and will sign the order around 4 p.m.

Attorney Don Campbell, who is representing NBC Universal Inc., which is hosting the debate, said after the hearing that it was too early to say what NBC will do if the order is issued.

Kucinich’s attorney, William McGaha, said he was pleased with the upcoming ruling. “It’s in everybody’s interest to have the debate and with as many different political viewpoints,” he said.

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/comment-page-1/#comment-4227996 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:04:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/#comment-4227996 plunger: "Seems like enough to get a Chevron Suezmax-class tanker named in your honor, no?" Well, now we're getting to the heart of the matter - the same reason Texans brought a bunch of Taliban representatives to Texas in the late 90's and wined & dined them - an oil pipeline through Afganistan to the "stans" north of there which sit on one of the world's remaining large oil reserves. American oil corporations didn't want that oil going north through Russia. They wanted it going south to a loading station on the Indian Ocean. The drug thing was just for show. plunger: “Seems like enough to get a Chevron Suezmax-class tanker named in your honor, no?”

Well, now we’re getting to the heart of the matter – the same reason Texans brought a bunch of Taliban representatives to Texas in the late 90’s and wined & dined them – an oil pipeline through Afganistan to the “stans” north of there which sit on one of the world’s remaining large oil reserves. American oil corporations didn’t want that oil going north through Russia. They wanted it going south to a loading station on the Indian Ocean.

The drug thing was just for show.

]]> By: StratRat http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/comment-page-1/#comment-4227989 StratRat Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:59:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/gates-recommends-afghanistan-surge/#comment-4227989 <em>If the same type of “surge” in Afghanistan means a quicker end to hostilities there, then we should all support it. Comment by O. Bigfoot</em> There are nations on this earth which will always have unrest and instability - Afghaninistan is such a place. No matter how many O. Bigfoots go a and fight over there, there will never be peace - never. The Afghans have been battling some of the worlds largest and best fighting forces the world has ever known, but they always seem to throw out the invaders. We will be no different. Bush, again, is simply killing more and more soldiers because he cannot admit his failures. If you support the "surge", you are encouraging the death and pain of countless men, women, and children to save Bush's ego. If the same type of “surge” in Afghanistan means a quicker end to hostilities there, then we should all support it.

Comment by O. Bigfoot

There are nations on this earth which will always have unrest and instability – Afghaninistan is such a place. No matter how many O. Bigfoots go a and fight over there, there will never be peace – never. The Afghans have been battling some of the worlds largest and best fighting forces the world has ever known, but they always seem to throw out the invaders. We will be no different.

Bush, again, is simply killing more and more soldiers because he cannot admit his failures. If you support the “surge”, you are encouraging the death and pain of countless men, women, and children to save Bush’s ego.

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