Comments on: Saudi public ‘leery of Bush.’ http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:09:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Namtillaku http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/comment-page-3/#comment-4229120 Namtillaku Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:14:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/#comment-4229120 This is like saying, "Everyone in the World is leery of Bush". Yeah? OK. Right, the sun does rise in the East too - every time. Huh. Imagine that. This is like saying, “Everyone in the World is leery of Bush”. Yeah? OK. Right, the sun does rise in the East too – every time. Huh. Imagine that.

]]> By: AmandaBlow http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-4228791 AmandaBlow Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:54:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/#comment-4228791 every time I see a picture of IDIOT BUSH, I grab an ice pick and poke holes in his eyes and face. You've done it IDIOT!!!! Total failure at home and abroad. The economy is safe and sound yeah right! I want you dead idiot!!! Failed WAR + Failed ECONOMY + Failed POLICY = 8 wasted years under GWBush The entire Bush family of criminals (phoney devil worshipping christians) and money launderers should be NUKED out of existence. every time I see a picture of IDIOT BUSH, I grab an ice pick and poke holes in his eyes and face. You’ve done it IDIOT!!!! Total failure at home and abroad. The economy is safe and sound yeah right! I want you dead idiot!!! Failed WAR + Failed ECONOMY + Failed POLICY = 8 wasted years under GWBush The entire Bush family of criminals (phoney devil worshipping christians) and money launderers should be NUKED out of existence.

]]> By: williamf http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-4228277 williamf Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:43:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/#comment-4228277 19 Saudis were driving those planes on September 11, 2001. Bush still cozy's up with these folks and there has been nothing substantive developed about the role of the Saudis in 9/11. And Bush just keeps sucking-up to the House of Saud. What a total dildo. 19 Saudis were driving those planes on September 11, 2001. Bush still cozy’s up with these folks and there has been nothing substantive developed about the role of the Saudis in 9/11. And Bush just keeps sucking-up to the House of Saud. What a total dildo.

]]> By: jb http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-4228149 jb Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:27:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/#comment-4228149 If 12% of Saudis like W., maybe he should just stay there. If 12% of Saudis like W., maybe he should just stay there.

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-4228115 katy Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:45:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/#comment-4228115 you've got to read this... i heard rachel maddow read some tonight: <em><strong>An open letter to George W. Bush</strong>. - UAE press editorial Abu Dhabi, Jan 11th, 2008 (WAM): In an unusual style, the Dubai-based Gulf News published today a front page editorial addressing the American President George W. Bush. The editorial, in the form of an open 'Letter to George W. Bush' read: <strong>'Dear Mr. President, On the occasion of your first official trip to this vital region</strong>, it is only appropriate to raise a few points which might also be raised by the leaders you meet. Unfortunately, you landed here with prejudice and pre-formed opinions. <strong>By describing Israel, moments after you arrived, as the 'land of freedom' and 'justice', you have shown total ignorance of the political situation in the Middle East</strong> and the issue you claim to want to solve in the remaining 12 months of your presidency. Israel, Mr. President, continues to defy every UN resolution, exercise unprecedented oppression on the occupied Palestinian people and persecute its Muslim and Christian population. 'We realise that containing Iran, selling more weapons and securing cheap oil supplies are the main issues on your mind as you tour the region. But you need to look beyond the neocon rhetoric and speak directly to the people who have been unjustly thrown out of their land, victimised for decades by your 'strong ally' Israel. 'As for other matters, such as the promise of democracy and human rights, which you are expected to raise in your official talks in the region, we really don't take them seriously. Your dreadful record on both gives you no moral right to lecture others'. Gulf News continued its open letter in its usual editorial page: <strong>'Lest you forget. Invasion of Iraq. Thousands of dead. Looting the National Museum. Disbanding the Iraqi army. Donald Rumsfeld. Shock and Awe. Jay Garner. Paul Bremer. Inciting sectarianism. Abu Ghraib. [...]</strong></em> it goes on and on... http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidWAM20080111071010164 (i could not get the original Gulf News link to open on my puter) you’ve got to read this… i heard rachel maddow read some tonight:

An open letter to George W. Bush. – UAE press editorial

Abu Dhabi, Jan 11th, 2008 (WAM): In an unusual style, the Dubai-based Gulf News published today a front page editorial addressing the American President George W. Bush. The editorial, in the form of an open ‘Letter to George W. Bush’ read: ‘Dear Mr. President, On the occasion of your first official trip to this vital region, it is only appropriate to raise a few points which might also be raised by the leaders you meet. Unfortunately, you landed here with prejudice and pre-formed opinions. By describing Israel, moments after you arrived, as the ‘land of freedom’ and ‘justice’, you have shown total ignorance of the political situation in the Middle East and the issue you claim to want to solve in the remaining 12 months of your presidency. Israel, Mr. President, continues to defy every UN resolution, exercise unprecedented oppression on the occupied Palestinian people and persecute its Muslim and Christian population.

‘We realise that containing Iran, selling more weapons and securing cheap oil supplies are the main issues on your mind as you tour the region. But you need to look beyond the neocon rhetoric and speak directly to the people who have been unjustly thrown out of their land, victimised for decades by your ’strong ally’ Israel.
‘As for other matters, such as the promise of democracy and human rights, which you are expected to raise in your official talks in the region, we really don’t take them seriously. Your dreadful record on both gives you no moral right to lecture others’.

Gulf News continued its open letter in its usual editorial page: ‘Lest you forget. Invasion of Iraq. Thousands of dead. Looting the National Museum. Disbanding the Iraqi army. Donald Rumsfeld. Shock and Awe. Jay Garner. Paul Bremer. Inciting sectarianism. Abu Ghraib.
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it goes on and on…

http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidWAM20080111071010164

(i could not get the original Gulf News link to open on my puter)

]]> By: Cats r Flyfishn http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-4227992 Cats r Flyfishn Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:02:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/#comment-4227992 Finally a success. Bush has succeeded in winning the least popular leader in the world contest. Finally a success. Bush has succeeded in winning the least popular leader in the world contest.

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-4227990 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:59:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/#comment-4227990 Captain: "To be honest, if the situation in the Middle East improved greatly (even despite what may be considered poor policy) Bush would probably be given some credit, and remembered more favorably." Considering the fact that his policy has already had the effect of creating what Middle East experts call a "vast Shiite arc" across the middle of the entire area, I honestly can't imagine why anyone will ever think of him or his policy in a favorable light regarding this part of his foreign policy. The "arc" has already created a situation which greatly increases Iran's clout and emboldens the Shiite factions in Syria and Lebanon further endangering Israel and the Sunni dictatorships on the Arabian penninsula. It looks to me like this policy will further destablize the entire region for years to come and I see less chance of democratic governments emerging than even before, when at least you had a secular dictator who would have eventually died or been assasinated by Iraqis themselves. Captain: “To be honest, if the situation in the Middle East improved greatly (even despite what may be considered poor policy) Bush would probably be given some credit, and remembered more favorably.”

Considering the fact that his policy has already had the effect of creating what Middle East experts call a “vast Shiite arc” across the middle of the entire area, I honestly can’t imagine why anyone will ever think of him or his policy in a favorable light regarding this part of his foreign policy. The “arc” has already created a situation which greatly increases Iran’s clout and emboldens the Shiite factions in Syria and Lebanon further endangering Israel and the Sunni dictatorships on the Arabian penninsula. It looks to me like this policy will further destablize the entire region for years to come and I see less chance of democratic governments emerging than even before, when at least you had a secular dictator who would have eventually died or been assasinated by Iraqis themselves.

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-4227976 MapleStreet Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:41:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/#comment-4227976 Are Saudis more intelligent than Americans ? Before you answer, note: A recent poll found that only 12 percent of Saudis view Bush positively — “lower than Iran’s president or even al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden.” Are Saudis more intelligent than Americans ? Before you answer, note:

A recent poll found that only 12 percent of Saudis view Bush positively — “lower than Iran’s president or even al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden.”

]]> By: Keith H. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-4227971 Keith H. Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:39:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/#comment-4227971 <i>A recent poll found that only 12 percent of Saudis view Bush positively — “lower than Iran’s president or even al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden.”</i> This stands to reason really, considering he is the most dangerous terrorist on planet earth. It's increasingly hard to believe someone so vile is allowed to continue as this country's puppet in chief. That fact fully demonstrates that the entire federal government has joined together in destroying our country, other countries and everyone's environment. A recent poll found that only 12 percent of Saudis view Bush positively — “lower than Iran’s president or even al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden.”

This stands to reason really,
considering he is the most dangerous terrorist on planet earth.

It’s increasingly hard to believe someone so vile is allowed to
continue as this country’s puppet in chief.
That fact fully demonstrates that the entire federal government has joined together in destroying our country, other countries and everyone’s environment.

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-4227909 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:52:38 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/#comment-4227909 Captain, your point about popularity has merit, but the problem with your argument is that there is an implicit comparison to Lincoln and Truman. Lincoln is widely regarded as the greatest president in American history and Truman is appreciated for his tremendous courage, forsight and especially for assuming personal responsibility ("the buck stops here"). Bush looks like a petulant little whiner in comparison to these giants. Captain, your point about popularity has merit, but the problem with your argument is that there is an implicit comparison to Lincoln and Truman. Lincoln is widely regarded as the greatest president in American history and Truman is appreciated for his tremendous courage, forsight and especially for assuming personal responsibility (”the buck stops here”). Bush looks like a petulant little whiner in comparison to these giants.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-4227890 Lefty Patriot Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:36:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/#comment-4227890 Polls about popularity are interesting, but I hope people here understand there is more to leadership than other people ‘liking you’. Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 14, 2008 @ 4:50 pm this poll has nothing to do with "liking" Bush, but speaks directly to the job he's doing. thus the number. Polls about popularity are interesting, but I hope people here understand there is more to leadership than other people ‘liking you’.

Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 14, 2008 @ 4:50 pm

this poll has nothing to do with “liking” Bush, but speaks directly to the job he’s doing. thus the number.

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-4227882 bilbobaggins Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:31:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/#comment-4227882 <i>lower than Iran’s president or even al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden.” </i> Ouch...that's gotta hurt. lower than Iran’s president or even al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden.”

Ouch…that’s gotta hurt.

]]> By: Frosty Cupcake http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-4227873 Frosty Cupcake Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:27:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/#comment-4227873 Captain! Long time no see. How are you? Captain! Long time no see. How are you?

]]> By: Nature Rules http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-4227872 Nature Rules Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:27:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/#comment-4227872 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg" rel="nofollow"> Why conservatives aren't taken seriously at all.</a> Why conservatives aren’t taken seriously at all.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-4227870 Lefty Patriot Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:27:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/#comment-4227870 Why progressives aren’t taken as seriously as they could be. Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 14, 2008 @ 5:17 pm You have evidence otherwise? or are you just playing stupid again? Why progressives aren’t taken as seriously as they could be.

Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 14, 2008 @ 5:17 pm

You have evidence otherwise? or are you just playing stupid again?

]]> By: Proud American Liberal http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-4227838 Proud American Liberal Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:07:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/#comment-4227838 Do they have evidence that bin Laden is still alive? Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — January 14, 2008 @ 2:41 pm He releases a new video tape about every 6 months. Comment by Dr. Matt — January 14, 2008 @ 2:43 pm No. Bin Laden is dead. Bhutto said so just before Musharraf and Bush had her killed. Do they have evidence that bin Laden is still alive?
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — January 14, 2008 @ 2:41 pm

He releases a new video tape about every 6 months.

Comment by Dr. Matt — January 14, 2008 @ 2:43 pm

No. Bin Laden is dead. Bhutto said so just before Musharraf and Bush had her killed.

]]> By: StratRat http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-4227827 StratRat Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:00:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/#comment-4227827 <em>Polls about popularity are interesting, but I hope people here understand there is more to leadership than other people ‘liking you’. Comment by CaptainMantastic</em> Partly correct. If the polls are overwhelmingly negative toward the adminsitration - and they are - most would want to know why are the so overwhelmingly negative. Bush is a uniter: He has united the entire world - except other dictators and torturers - against him. That's quite a trick, no? If the poll asks about the direction of the nation, then it is not about popularity - as you claim - it is about the question being asked. If the poll speaks to the War, again it is not about anyones popularity, it is about the war. When the poll asks about education, the environment, corruption it is not asking if bush is popular; it is asking your feelings on these issues. When, and if, the polls asks if they like bush - then you are correct, it is a popularity contest. And he would fail that standard also. Polls about popularity are interesting, but I hope people here understand there is more to leadership than other people ‘liking you’.

Comment by CaptainMantastic

Partly correct. If the polls are overwhelmingly negative toward the adminsitration – and they are – most would want to know why are the so overwhelmingly negative. Bush is a uniter: He has united the entire world – except other dictators and torturers – against him. That’s quite a trick, no?

If the poll asks about the direction of the nation, then it is not about popularity – as you claim – it is about the question being asked.

If the poll speaks to the War, again it is not about anyones popularity, it is about the war.

When the poll asks about education, the environment, corruption it is not asking if bush is popular; it is asking your feelings on these issues.

When, and if, the polls asks if they like bush – then you are correct, it is a popularity contest. And he would fail that standard also.

]]> By: Zimzone http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-4227826 Zimzone Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:00:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/#comment-4227826 Captain, And their's more to being President than Corporations liking you. Captain,
And their’s more to being President than Corporations liking you.

]]> By: Uncle Ho http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-4227821 Uncle Ho Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:54:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/#comment-4227821 ....diversion for the American people. comment by Kahoneez at 4:30 pm Another way of saying that is 'Bread and Circuses.' ….diversion for the American people.
comment by Kahoneez at 4:30 pm

Another way of saying that is ‘Bread and Circuses.’

]]> By: GSD http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-4227814 GSD Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:48:59 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/14/saudi-public-leery-of-bush/#comment-4227814 http://www.feedsyndicate.com/articles/7009700761 Link. -GSD http://www.feedsyndicate.com/articles/7009700761

Link.

-GSD

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