On his radio show today, conservative talker Glenn Beck attacked Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) for his belief that waterboarding is torture, saying that the former Vietnam POW is “dead wrong.” After disparaging McCain’s position, Beck then joked about subjecting one of his sidekicks to waterboarding, saying that “we need to find somebody who is willing to be waterboarded by professionals and show if it’s torture or not.”
Beck asked his friend Stu if he would be willing to be waterboarded, but Stu refused, saying he’s “not going to be tortured.” When Beck pointed out that Stu has been “telling him” that “waterboarding’s not torture,” Stu changed his line to “I don’t want to be interrogated“:
STU: No, I’m not going to be tortured.
GLENN: It’s not torture.
STU: Oh, that’s right, it’s not torture.
GLENN: Wait a minute, you are the one that’s been telling me beat the drum, waterboarding’s not torture.
STU: I would say that’s true, you are accurate. I don’t want to be interrogated. How about that.
Throughout the entire segment, neither Beck nor any of his friends were willing to step up to the plate and be waterboarded, despite their insistence that it’s not torture. Listen to it:
When former acting assistant attorney general Daniel Levin underwent the procedure in 2004, he concluded that it “could be illegal torture.” In Nov. 2007, Malcolm W. Nance, a former U.S. Navy Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape instructor who taught U.S. soldiers how to resist torture, testified to the House Judiciary Committee that waterboarding is torture:
It is an overwhelming experience that induces horror and triggers frantic survival instincts. As the event unfolded, I was fully conscious of what was happening — I was being tortured.
On his website now, Beck has posted a poll asking “who from the program should be waterboarded?”
These people are retarded.
January 15th, 2008 at 5:37 pmBeck + Waterboarding program poll = The dumbing down of the media.
January 15th, 2008 at 5:39 pmLooks like the proctologist needs another go at extricating Beck’s head from his ass.
January 15th, 2008 at 5:40 pmOh please let me be the one to show Glenn about Torture… Speaking of torture…. Beck does it to his veiwers everyday. The ratings show.
January 15th, 2008 at 5:43 pmI’ll bet $1000 in cash that Glen Beck would get an erection from watching a member of his staff get professionally waterboarded. CNN should can the perverted bastard immediately.
Tom Paulk
January 15th, 2008 at 5:44 pmThey should go for a consensus. Waterboard them all then they can demostrate torture and democracy at the same time.
January 15th, 2008 at 5:47 pmGlenn Beck Poll: ‘Who Would You Like To See Waterboarded?’
Must have been Beck’s bad hemorrhoid operation plus a massive amount of drugs that doctors pumped into him to make him give that retarded poll.
January 15th, 2008 at 5:49 pmAnd be sure and have that volunteer intern sign a waiver before you waterboard him/her. (Obviously they get their home schooled interns from Liberty U.) Geesh.
January 15th, 2008 at 5:50 pmThe obvious volunteer would be Beck, himself…..
January 15th, 2008 at 5:50 pmOT – Here’s some fun facts about GE (General Electric) owner of MSNBC, the company trying to keep Dennis Kucinich from tonight’s Democratic debate.
…GE has designed 91 nuclear power plants in 11 countries, yet its nuclear reactors around the world have a fatal flaw. In the event of a nuclear meltdown, there is a 90 percent chance that radiation from GE-designed reactors would be discharged directly into the atmosphere. While the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission is aware of the problem, it continues to license GE nuclear reactors.
GE’s history with nuclear power is an ugly one. In the 1940s-1960s the company ran experiments on humans with radiation, including irradiating the reproductive organs of prison inmates in Walla Walla, Washington, without warning them of the risk of cancer. Other tests were run on the elderly and hospital patients. General Electric intentionally released large amounts of radiation into the air from the Hanford Nuclear Reservation in Richland, in order to see the distance it would travel. These atrocities were revealed in hearings in 1986 held by Representative Edward Markey of Massachusetts. The company has also been accused of knowingly poisoning its workers at the Knolls Atomic Power Laboratory in Schenectady, New York with radiation and asbestos.
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=16
January 15th, 2008 at 5:51 pmI would really like to see Glen Beck waterboarded.
January 15th, 2008 at 5:53 pmHere’s more information on General Electric, the company that wants to tell us who are Presidential candidates should be:
…General Electric is currently attempting to overturn the US Superfund Law of 1980, which allows the government to hold polluters responsible for cleaning up their toxic chemicals. GE argues that it is “unconstitutional†for the Environmental Protection Agency to force the company to pay $500 million for the cleanup of the Hudson River, where GE dumped carcinogenic PCBs, or polychlorinated biphenyls, over three decades. In March 2004, a federal appeals court has revived GE’s lawsuit. It shouldn’t come as a surprise that GE is trying to change the Superfund Law: the company is responsible for 78 Superfund sites around the US.
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=16
January 15th, 2008 at 5:53 pmGLENN: Wait a minute, you are the one that’s been telling me beat the drum, waterboarding’s not torture.
So, it was STU, the POS, after all…
January 15th, 2008 at 5:53 pmAnd still more on General Electric:
GE’s financial division has been another area ripe for fraud. GE was fined $100 million for trying to get bankrupt creditors to pay without informing the bankruptcy courts, in effect paying debts that they no longer legally owed. Not surprisingly, General Electric is the financial backer of WorldCom, the telecom company whose massive fraud and creative accounting led to the largest bankruptcy in US history.
The company has been involved in countless scandals, but strangely enough, they don’t seem to affect General Electric’s ability to win government contracts – but then, this is typical of all military contractors. According to a survey by the Center for Public Integrity, from 1990-2002, 30 of the US government’s top contractors were found guilty of fraud in 400 cases, leading to settlements and fines amounting to at least $3.4 billion. General Electric paid $982.9 million for 63 cases in this period.
January 15th, 2008 at 5:56 pmAnd that is how far we have fallen. Before Bush, talk like this would have forced Glen Beck to resign – now it is a punchline. What a tool.
January 15th, 2008 at 5:58 pmAnd for Glenn’s next feat of stupidity…he’ll subject a randomly selected family member to a roadside bomb!
January 15th, 2008 at 5:58 pmI just voted for Beck.
January 15th, 2008 at 5:59 pmFor his next stunt, Beck should have himself waterboarded on his television program, just to prove to his viewers, and all of us, that it’s not torture. Should be interesting…
January 15th, 2008 at 6:00 pmIf I had to work with Glenn Beck every day I’d want to be waterboards just so I wouldn’t have to listen to him for 10 minutes.
January 15th, 2008 at 6:00 pmMe too, ‘Bucket, just to see if the ass will follow through. If he does, what do you bet it will be in a secret area, with no cameras or tape recorders, with only Beck and his sidekicks in attendance along with someone to administer the technique who must sign a document swearing him to secrecy outside the room?
Meanwhile, Stu shows what an idiot he is by going with the “I don’t want to be interrogated” crap. If waterboarding is not torture, what the hell is he afraid of? “Oh please please do not interrogate me, for I might shat in my pants.”
January 15th, 2008 at 6:05 pmGLENN: What they say is it’s a horrible experience but it does no harm. I’m just saying.
Well, ripping one’s fingernails off very slowly is a horrible experience, but it, too, does no harm. How about it, Glenn? You up for it? Ask Dan if you can do that, too.
January 15th, 2008 at 6:07 pmMy nominations for waterboarding: Bush, Cheney, Rush Limpdick, Hannity, Trannie Coulter, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, Gonzo, Mukasey, Snow, Fleischer, Perino, Abrams, Perle, O’Reilly, Hastert, Romney, Huckafu(k,Frist, Delay, Guilaini,Addington, Libbey,…..in other words….the whole damn administration & their cheerleaders.
January 15th, 2008 at 6:09 pmAnd then, Glenn, we can put toothpicks under your eyelids and keep you awake for 48 hours. Maybe let you piss and shat in your own pants by keeping you from going to the bathroom. That’s probably horrible, too, but hey, you can always take a shower afterwards and get all the sleep you want.
January 15th, 2008 at 6:09 pmI know..let’s have a waterboarding threesome! Beck, Billo and Ailes! It can be held at the Fixed Noise studios ALL NEXT WEEK – 24×7 until someone gives up a secret…HA!
January 15th, 2008 at 6:14 pmI got an idea. Waterboard Glenn until he admits it is torture (shouldn’t take long). Then, since information revealed this way is supposed to be valid and reliable, we should cease and desist because it is torture, and torture is wrong!
– He can’t say he lied, because then it means that water boarding doesn’t work and produces false information – so we shouldn’t do it because it is unreliable.
Problem solved =).
January 15th, 2008 at 6:16 pmIt took butt surgery for Glenn to see the light about corporate health care and tort reform.
Water boarding will let him to see the light when it comes to torture and habeas corpus.
It’s similar to the physical I had when I was drafted. I had to bend over while one doctor put a flashlight in my mouth the other told me to cough. I guess the other doctor saw the light because I passed the test.
January 15th, 2008 at 6:18 pmRape doesn’t cause any “harm” either. I guess we can start raping our prisoners too.
Bringing in someone’s children and threatening them in front of a prisoner doesn’t do any harm either. We can start doing that.
Ooooh…we can use stress positions on prisoner’s family while he watches…that doesn’t cause any “harm” either.
What an idiot. I can’t believe we are actually having this debate in this country. Especially so close after witnessing the atrocities of WWII.
January 15th, 2008 at 6:22 pmWhat an idiot. I can’t believe we are actually having this debate in this country. Especially so close after witnessing the atrocities of WWII.
Comment by DanCaveman
I would like to emphasize this……..what year is this?
January 15th, 2008 at 6:25 pmPlay the trey!
January 15th, 2008 at 6:26 pmOh Please Oh Please Oh Please let Glenn be waterboarded!
And put the video on YouTube so we can all watch him flip out.
January 15th, 2008 at 6:27 pmi wonder….are botched ASS operations considered torture?
January 15th, 2008 at 6:29 pmThe whole Beck thing isn’t really helping the CFR’s position. They are going to have him recalled.
Bye Bye Glenn.
You just don’t get it. Taking on McCain over torture is as stupid as it gets.
David Rockefeller called…You’re done.
January 15th, 2008 at 6:29 pm“I got an idea. Waterboard Glenn until he admits it is torture (shouldn’t take long). Then, since information revealed this way is supposed to be valid and reliable, we should cease and desist because it is torture, and torture is wrong!” Comment by DanCaveman
While you’ve got him down there, pump him for info, just like the military does, to get the full effect. Force him to reveal if he ever intimately knew Jeff Gannon. Or the name of the idiot at CNN who hired him. Either one would make for boffo radio ratings.
January 15th, 2008 at 6:30 pmproof that God doesn’t exist
even HELL won’t take you.
January 15th, 2008 at 6:36 pmcome on libs, if you happen to believe convicted retarded felons in Texas shouldn’t get the death penalty, then you MUST believe Beck shouldn’t be waterboarded.
Six of one, after all…
January 15th, 2008 at 6:41 pmWe need to start telling people who say that waterboarding isn’t torture to STFU or get an immediate punch in the goddamned face.
Christ almighty, I live in a world full of pussies.
January 15th, 2008 at 6:41 pmI suggest that a radical left wing group kidnap Glen Beck. He should be hooded, kept awake for 48 hours in really chilly, naked discomfort. It should all be filmed. Then he should be taken into a room and waterboarded. He should be forced to confess that waterboarding is torture, that he is really a homosexual and that he will vote for Kucinich for president. I guess it is nice to dream.
Let’s take this more seriously. Anyone publicly backing this BS should become the subject of a massive publicity campaign calling them cowards and liars unless they agree to be waterboarded in the same mannner as those kept at GTMO. Follow these cowards publicly and shout the challege at every opportunity. Flood the e-mail and comment sections of their employers with millions of communications demanding that they accept these terms. Hit them in the talk shows from Democratic participants asking them why, if they are not cowards, they will not take the challenge.
Let’s hear it. How do we organize this. I will participate in the process. Let’s do it.
January 15th, 2008 at 6:43 pmThe TV show Prison Break showed a terrorist waterboarding a lady. Now if Mikie doesn’t know if it’s torture or not he should get the tape. After watching how it’s done any human would say anything. The show didn’t let the lady die but they did use the CIA technique as the White House says it’s not torture. A friend who served in Vietnam said the US wouldn’t allow soldiers to be in the room when the Vietnamese waterboarded people. At that time the US said it was something non Democratic countries do and those who have no human rights. Looks like we have come a long way baby to the dark side.
January 15th, 2008 at 6:47 pmSix of one, after all…
Comment by slappy magoo — January 15, 2008 @ 6:41 pm
ROFL took me a second to get it. I don’t think Glenn Beck is retarded though. Bush yes Beck no.
January 15th, 2008 at 6:55 pmOT – but very important:
Dodd Facing Fight Within His Caucus on FISA
January 15th, 2008 at 6:59 pm[...]
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What an a$$hole, I voted for Glenn to be tortured, but wanted to vote for all three of them.
WATERBOARDING IS ILLEGAL, HAS BEEN AND STILL IS, BECAUSE IT IS TORTURE !!!
Buck Fush
January 15th, 2008 at 7:05 pmI will keep repeating it. Put together an action program to challenge these cowardly traitoLet’s take this more seriously.
Let’s take this more seriously. Anyone publicly backing this BS should become the subject of a massive publicity campaign calling them cowards and liars unless they agree to be waterboarded in the same mannner as those kept at GTMO. Follow these cowards publicly and shout the challege at every opportunity. Flood the e-mail and comment sections of their employers with millions of communications demanding that they accept these terms. Hit them in the talk shows from Democratic participants asking them why, if they are not cowards, they will not take the challenge.
January 15th, 2008 at 7:06 pmWhat would be the statements that Beck would have to say for the torture to stop…just to prove he is being tortures and all…..I have a few ideas but let’s play.
January 15th, 2008 at 7:09 pmYou don’t stop – no matter what. That’s the deal. Everybody knows that a person undergoing torture will say anything. It’s not about information – it’s about punishment/sadism. Start torturing him and don’t stop until he is psychologically damaged beyond repair, no matter what he does or says.
Then have him on all of the talk shows.
January 15th, 2008 at 7:14 pmThe obvious thing of course is; if it isn’t torture, why are Beck and goons unwilling to subject themselves to it?
January 15th, 2008 at 7:19 pmThe obvious thing of course is; if it isn’t torture, why are Beck and goons unwilling to subject themselves to it?
Comment by Krazny — January 15, 2008 @ 7:19 pm
Excellent point, Krazny. One would think they’d be lining up for it.
January 15th, 2008 at 7:23 pmTorture is just so darned funny. It’s the right-wingers’ refined sense of humor that causes them to giggle like schoolgirls every time the topic comes up.
January 15th, 2008 at 7:24 pm#45
The obvious thing of course is; if it isn’t torture, why are Beck and goons unwilling to subject themselves to it?
Comment by Krazny — January 15, 2008 @ 7:19 pm
Excellent point, Krazny. One would think they’d be lining up for it.
Also, how does it work if it’s not torture? If it’s not torture, if it’s not harmful or life-threatening, why would someone spill their guts, allegedly, to make it stop?
January 15th, 2008 at 7:29 pmBeck is a moron. Why do people listen to him. An empty soap dish has a higher IQ.
January 15th, 2008 at 7:33 pmIf it were another country waterboarding some Americans Glenn would be howling to bomb them.
The guys a Rush clone and is irrelevent. I wish people would stop falling into the inane controversy trap such pundits rely on for ratings.
January 15th, 2008 at 7:38 pmOkay Glenn, but no ’safe word’ you are on the board till the waterboarders say so . I think 15 min. followed by a nice 30 min. followed by two more 20 min. sessions should do. 1 hr. break then repeat. What is the big deal?
Would they be so scared about being ‘interrogated’ for 3 hrs.? Honestly, would any of them hesitate to be asked questions while sitting in a chair without water or a bathroom for 3 hrs. – no. That is interrogation.
And. You have to be kidding me. From his Youtube video I thought Beck had all his lower intestines removed vs. ass surgery. That pussy would wet his pants if you tickled him for 15 seconds. Gawd almighty, people who think he is worthy of their listening time amaze me…
January 15th, 2008 at 7:49 pmOf course, one of the things that can make it less horrible is if you’re being waterboarded by a friendly operating. You can think “it’s only a demo…”
January 15th, 2008 at 7:54 pmTherefore I propose that Rosie O’Donnell administer the waterboarding…
Beck would freak in the first few seconds. He would be a blubbering blob in less than 30 seconds.
Once that water fills your lungs, the drowning reflexes take over.
January 15th, 2008 at 8:25 pmThat online poll didn’t include the choices I’d like to see included. I’d answer: “any Republican’t”.
January 15th, 2008 at 8:31 pmTo me the only reason Beck is doing this is to bring the term waterboarding into the main stream. The more he talks about it the more people become used to the term not the action. He is trying to make it humorous – these kool-aid drinkers are thinking long term.
January 15th, 2008 at 9:00 pmOf course, dear old Glenn would be waterboarded voluntarily. Big difference between that and waterboarding in the context of involuntary torture and forced, covert corporation.
The first is a sexual fantasy.
January 15th, 2008 at 9:21 pmGeorge W. Bush
January 15th, 2008 at 10:22 pmso if beck has been beating the drum about waterboarding not being torture,then i agree with everyone here who has said he should volunteer himself
January 15th, 2008 at 11:17 pmTo me the only reason Beck is doing this is to bring the term waterboarding into the main stream. The more he talks about it the more people become used to the term not the action. He is trying to make it humorous – these kool-aid drinkers are thinking long term.
Comment by Mississippi Blue — January 15, 2008 @ 9:00 pm
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Allow me a dissenting opinion. Beck is evil & stupid but not THAT thorough. YOu give him too much credit to think he’s THAT thought-out in his process.
He’s a troll. No different than any troll who’d post on these boards, except he’s got a TV show. He says things like this, not even so much to pander to HIS base so much as piss off OURS. The fact that this pleases his base is the icing on the cake. The idea being, if he says stuff to piss off libe, mods and any one with half a brain in his head, we’ll keep watching to be outraged, which equals ratings, and the dunderheads who hate anyone to the left of Pat Robertson will tune in to cheer him on for taking us on. It’s all bread and circuses, and ooh, ain’t he the bad boy. The fact that it’s not rerally working – he’s pissing people off but it’s really not translating into higher ratings – isn’t stopping him, because he’s got no other tricks up his sleeve.
Just a troll, albiet a dangerous one because his platform is higher-profile than many others, but still just a troll. I’m not saying ignore him, it’s well and good to show outrage. Proves you have a soul. I’m just saying he has no agenda beyond saying anything and everything he can to offend what he considers to be OUR delicate sensibilities. The face that we consider those same sensibilities “humanity” underscores just how removes from humanity this cat is.
January 16th, 2008 at 12:27 amIt’s not listed as a choice on Beck’s poll, but I want to see BECK’S HEMORRHOID waterboarded. Now THAT would be amusing.
By the way — and I don’t know why it’s so friggin’ hard to get this into fellow progressives’ heads — IT’S NOT “WATERBOARDING.” Waterboarding involves Pamela Anderson, breaking waves in Malibu, and cold beer bottles perched on the sand, or at least it comes across as sounding that way.
It’s “PARTIAL DROWNING INTERROGATION.”
Got that? Now write it 50 times on a chalkboard if that’s what it takes to remember it, for God’s sake.
January 16th, 2008 at 2:38 amWell Slappy Magoo – I do not disagree with you one bit – I make my point because Beck was one of the media people brought in for the private meetings with Bush – he looked into his eyes.
I don’t think for one minute that Beck is smart enough to think long term but he is brain washed enough to push the agenda for Bush. In fact I think Beck pushes the issues further than Bush so when Bush speaks it doesn’t seem as bad.
To me he is nothing more than a puppet.
January 16th, 2008 at 8:38 amRead Beck’s book…you might learn something…
January 16th, 2008 at 10:54 am“Read Beck’s book…you might learn something…”
Here are a few:
1. Beck is an idiot.
January 16th, 2008 at 11:33 am2. Even the best editor can’t prevent a real idiot from sounding like an idiot.
3. Any idiot whatsoever can publish a book if s/he can pay someone to do so, e.g. if s/he is a rich or “successful” idiot.
4. You can’t buy taste, or the ability to think clearly.
5. It is possible to waste a great deal of time reading books (or posts, for that matter) written by idiots.
Beck is right, waterboading is not torture.
But so what if it is? I think we [the US] should be torturing our enemies whenever we think it is in our best interests to do so.
January 17th, 2008 at 4:04 pm