NYT editors undercut Kristol’s column on Iraq.
NYT editors undercut Kristol’s column on Iraq.
In his New York Times column yesterday, Bill Kristol trumpeted Iraq’s new de-Baathification law, noting that Democrats are no longer able to “deprecate the military progress and political reconciliation taking place on the ground by harping on the failure of the Iraqi government to pass the benchmark legislation.” But in today’s paper, The Times’s editorial board sharply rebukes Kristol’s claims on the de-Baathification law:
What should have been heralded as an accomplishment, however, may only serve to further reinforce the bumbling nature of President Bush’s ill-conceived adventure in Iraq.
No one, it seems, has a clear sense of what the law will do. Some suggest it could actually exclude more former Baathists than it lets in — a sure-fire way to fuel political tensions rather than calm them.
Editor & Publisher’s Greg Mitchell has more.
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Ok, so tell me why they gave Kristol a column. It looks to me like they only gave him the column so he could say stupid things (as usual) and they can refute what he says. Do they think that will increase the readership of their newspaper?
January 15th, 2008 at 10:00 amlol, is that (m)ann coulters brother?
January 15th, 2008 at 10:00 amwhy is it called “DE-baathification” law?
January 15th, 2008 at 10:01 amas juan pointed out, it should be RE-baathification… not?
Once again, for all the world to see, Kristol is wrong again, again, again…
January 15th, 2008 at 10:05 amIs there an echo here?
The Times has dug themselves a bigg hole here. Besides reader, it will cost them to keep challenging their little buffoon.
January 15th, 2008 at 10:11 amThey are acting just like some crooks wall street by trying to have it both ways.
Once again, the cowardly chickenhawk Kristol defends the indefensible. Has he no shame? Not one shred of decency?
January 15th, 2008 at 10:11 amI thoroughly enjoy seeing this creepy little prick being called out on his bullsh*t.
January 15th, 2008 at 10:11 amCaption:
January 15th, 2008 at 10:12 am‘Damn it, I’m the President…(well, not really, but don’t you think I look Presidential with this scowl on my face?’ I mean, I am a serious man…)
A day late and a dollar short. These are the folks who allowed Judith Miller to run wild, whose news content and editorials supported Billy Kristol back when it really counted.
So, yeah, whatEvah on the criticism. They’ve all been famously and consistently wrong when it comes to Iraq, and now it’s like two drunks arguing over who’s the better brain surgeon.
January 15th, 2008 at 10:19 am#1 Ok, so tell me why they gave Kristol a column.
It’s my understanding that little Billy Kristol is a family friend of the Sulzbergers, hereditary publishers of the NYT.
January 15th, 2008 at 10:20 amAnother example of being Kristol-clear, that is, just a muddy mess.
January 15th, 2008 at 10:20 amMy concern is the growing trend in the news media to include these mouthpieces for the far right. We have seen the Washington Post vie to become the Washington Times. We see the broadcast media failing to call the President and the Republicans out on their lies and manipulations. We do truly live in a fascist corpocracy with our news carefully tailored to cover truth with a false balance in debate.
January 15th, 2008 at 10:21 amWhy not fire him? Jake could probably write a better column.
January 15th, 2008 at 10:23 amBilly Krisco slips in some more lies to go with the Kool-Aide, but the pitcher’s empty.
Stink Tank AEI, who now has F. Lee Raymond’s fat ass to ‘cover’ them, loves ‘em some Krisco.
More sunlight on AEI & Krisco can’t be a bad thing.
January 15th, 2008 at 10:25 amJMohr: Re: Comment #12 – These propaganda rags called newspapers are wholly owned by Reichwingnuts so you can’t expect anything resembling the truth to find it’s way to print in any of them. That goes for the television news shows as well.
January 15th, 2008 at 10:27 amThe “Kristol Meth”od :
1. drink kool-aid
January 15th, 2008 at 10:27 am2. obfuscate
3. repeat 1&2
Zimzone: AEI and Kristol’s deluded fascist dream (PNAC) are being outed as we type.
January 15th, 2008 at 10:27 amKay: Add to that 3)own the media!
January 15th, 2008 at 10:28 amWhy not fire him? Jake could probably write a better column.
Comment by Mr.Bungle — January 15, 2008 @ 10:23 am
Can you be sure that Jake and Kristol aren’t the same person? Ever see the two together?
January 15th, 2008 at 10:28 amIf people dig deeply enough, they will find the the ownership of major newspapers and televised news programs in this country are owned by GOP wingnuts…..along with purveyors of our hackable voting machines…..and those GOP wingnuts who hold “chain of custody” and thus “total control” like Sylvestro et al.
January 15th, 2008 at 10:29 amThe only argument against Kristol being Jake would be their ability to form cohesive, complete sentences!
January 15th, 2008 at 10:30 amOwnership and control of the media is the first requirement of FASCISM.
January 15th, 2008 at 10:30 amIt looks to me like they only gave him the column so he could say stupid things (as usual) and they can refute what he says. Do they think that will increase the readership of their newspaper?
Comment by bilbobaggins — January 15, 2008 @ 10:00 am
You may be right, but if this indeed is the NYT strategy, I predict that it ultimately fails. At first Kristol will generate outrage and morbid curiosity, but in the end it will cause yet more readers to lose respect and drift away from the Times than already have.
I recently cancelled my subscription to the Minneapolis Star Tribune after nearly twenty years of reading the paper. The Strib has gone steadily downhill in recent years as it has granted ever more column and letter space to right wing idiots, in a hopeless and stupid attempt to placate a small group of loud, obnoxious, bullying critics who will never be pleased until the paper is turned into a right wing version of Pravda.
Strib editors are trying to play a tricky game: give the right wing blowhards lots of space in the paper, but select letters and op-eds written by idiots like Kristol, Krauthammer, and a small stable of semi-deranged, Bush worshipping locals in the naive belief that their writing undercuts their right wing movement. The problem with this strategy is that it doesn’t work. The Strib’s right wing critics still call it the “Red Tribune” and always will, just like the right will always reflexively claim that the broader news media has a liberal bias no matter how much evidence to the contrary is presented. In the meantime, the paper destroys its own credibility with anyone possessing minimal critical thinking skills. So readership at the paper continues to decline, although the paper does get to keep as subscribers the same half-dozen or so right wingers who seem to be guaranteed a letter in the paper every month.
January 15th, 2008 at 10:38 amThe problem is that the retraction never carries as much weight as the error in the original printing. Neo-cons depend upon this. They make wild, unsupported assertions which they state as fact, and a large number of people internalize and believe the falsehood. When the few reputable media outlets run a criticism or retraction, it is too late for many; they’ve absorbed the lie and take a major shock before they will reject it.
This is why having Kristol at the Times is such a coup for the right wing. They get to propogate their lies using what little presitige is left to the New York Times. The contrary opinions and retractions come too little and too late.
January 15th, 2008 at 10:41 amWell put, VerbalKint. I see this happening in the local paper here as well.
January 15th, 2008 at 10:43 amThey are shrill bunch, who never let up w/ their whining.
alpuz, Jonah Goldberg is a case in point. His neocon editorial spewing is now infesting the Seattle Times at least once a week.
January 15th, 2008 at 10:46 amRead yesteday the initial reaction to the Re_Baathification law from the Sunni perspective was
January 15th, 2008 at 10:47 am“Oh sure, they want us to apply for jobs so they can identify us to the death squads”…
Weren’t the Baathists the bad guys at some point? WTF?
January 15th, 2008 at 10:49 amYou have to give it to the Republicans. They have an incredible ability to applaud their own failures as successes.
Instead of the reality of the situation – having a failed “de-Baathification” policy for six years, Kristol congratulates the Iraqi government for essentially fixing Bush and Rumsfeld’s horrific mistake.
January 15th, 2008 at 10:52 amOff the cheers and jeers at kos this AM:
According to a new Harris Interactive survey—as reported on The McLaughlin Group Sunday—Bush’s approval rating is 8 percent in Italy, 7 percent in Britain, 7 percent in Spain, 5 percent in Germany and 3 percent in France.
What the hell’s wrong with our 29%ers?
January 15th, 2008 at 10:59 am#29, like the Soviet Communist party, the Ba’athist party was filled with lots of people who joined only because it was a prerequisite to hold a job – from bureaucrat to university prof, and so on.
The trick has always been getting rid of the bad guys without affecting the people whose membership was merely nominal.
January 15th, 2008 at 11:01 am#31, the law is openly hated by the people it’s supposed to benefit, and it’s supported by the people who oppose the whole idea of the law on principle.
And you don’t see something fishy there?
/question is rhetorical, of course
January 15th, 2008 at 11:05 amWhat the hell’s wrong with our 29%ers?
Comment by RUCerious — January 15, 2008 @ 10:59 am
Let’s ask the Captain….
January 15th, 2008 at 11:07 amMaybe it’s because their Americans?
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 15, 2008 @ 11:08 am
And we’re not?
Look up submissive authoritarian — there’s a picture of you.
January 15th, 2008 at 11:15 amVerbalKint; I hear you. Similar problem in Port Huron. The Times Herald always have room to run columns by Micheal Reagan(yes, Bonzo’s boy). But God forbid that they ever print anything from the late, great Molly Ivins, Jim Hightower, or anyone else of the progressive side.
January 15th, 2008 at 11:16 ami’m so proud of you, zooey!
January 15th, 2008 at 11:19 ami noticed last week (?) you learned – and taught me – a new term!
“submissive authoritarian”… excellent!
Are Bush’s dismal approval ratings all that extraordinary?
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 15, 2008 @ 11:13 am
Comparing the right’s hero, George W. Washington-Lincoln-Churchill to Jimmy Carter and Richard Nixon? Never thought I’d see the day.
But what about Bill Clinton? He was popular, wasn’t he? Yeah, very popular, especially during his second term.
Bush’s approval ratings will only go down from here. There will be no rescue of his legacy, ever. He will go down in history as the worst President ever, and the more that is known about the misdeeds of his administration, the more hated he will become. Someday Bush will die, and when he does it will be in ignominy.
January 15th, 2008 at 11:20 am“submissive authoritarianâ€â€¦ excellent!
Comment by katy — January 15, 2008 @ 11:19 am
Read “Conservatives Without Conscience” by John Dean. It’s a horror story. And it really explains a lot about the sheeple. ;)
January 15th, 2008 at 11:22 am“Are Bush’s dismal approval ratings all that extraordinary?”
Comment by CaptainMantastic
Extraordinary in the sense that his ratings have been in the toilet longer than any American President in history! The Presidents that you mention had periods where their approval ratings dipped at different points in their tenure but your boyking has broken the mold. He had record high numbers directly after 9/11 (sympathy is my bet) and nose dived steadily since. Atta boy, George! Have another kool-ade coctail Cap’n!
January 15th, 2008 at 11:22 am“Are Bush’s dismal approval ratings all that extraordinary?”
Thank you for your prescient examples. In every case the administration that followed was from the opposing political party, which of course means that Americans will elect a Democrat president this year. Again, thanks for pointing that out for us.
January 15th, 2008 at 11:22 amWondering if NYT hired Kristol in order to make a mockery him. It’s easier to intellectually smack him about the head when you’re holding him by the collar. Shows the absurdity of the neo-con chickenhawk echo chamber to a broader audience.
January 15th, 2008 at 11:25 amOh, Manny. Look at you defending Chimpy. You just can’t help yourself, can you? Using another failed president’s (GHWB) low numbers as “proof” that Chimpy’s abysmal ratings are just fine with you…??
I truly pity you, Manny. You might as well put a big ol’ “KICK ME” sign on your back and write “SUCKER” across your forehead…
January 15th, 2008 at 11:25 amMaybe it’s because their Americans?
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 15, 2008 @ 11:08 am
And that equates with, what… stupid? Uninformed? Willfully ignorant?
And what about the vast (71% is an OVERWHELMING edge, BTW) majority who CAN’T STAND the little POS?
It’s “they’re”, not “their”. Okay… so we go w/ “stupid”. Got’cha.
January 15th, 2008 at 11:25 amI would suspect that Herr Brusch’s shift in percentages is prolly the greatest in American history, from what, 90% at his height of popularity following 9/11 to now.
January 15th, 2008 at 11:28 amWell extraordinary or not, they line up perfectly with some of the lowest points in modern American history, so thanks for laying that one out so succinctly.
You’re right. It should be clear to everyone that a major change is inevitable now.
Might as well just pack up and go home, right?
January 15th, 2008 at 11:29 amZooey – and here i thought it was something you picked up at college!
January 15th, 2008 at 11:34 amah well… no matter where, it’s good…
most of my family are case studies for that book, i’m sure…
Zooey – and here i thought it was something you picked up at college!
ah well… no matter where, it’s good…
most of my family are case studies for that book, i’m sure…
Comment by katy — January 15, 2008 @ 11:34 am
College too. :-) But it was backed up by Dean’s book.
My family is in that case study as well. :D
January 15th, 2008 at 11:38 amHiya Zooey!; I HAVE read ‘Conservatives Without A Conscience’ by John Dean. And it really DOES make me wish we still had Nixon to kick around. Tricky Dick seems like a saint compared to this administration.
January 15th, 2008 at 11:40 amHi, Uncle Ho! I’ve been reading your stuff, but always seem to miss you. I hope things are going well for you.
Nixon is looking like a right honorable fellow these days, isn’t he?
January 15th, 2008 at 11:42 amI was raised in NYC by a family that voraciously devoured the NY Times cover-to-cover, every single day, starting at the breakfast table and ending at bedtime. Even though I am educated enough to recognize and place in balanced context the Times’ leanings and limitations I have continued to read the paper regularly for it’s interesting cultural slant and because, sadly, most other newspapers suck by comparison.
However, enough is enough. When the Times recently hired Kristol I wrote to inform the editors that, for the first time in nearly a half century, I am no longer purchasing their publication as a form of protest.
It’s simple: I vote with my money and I let businesses know when and why I make such decisions. I heartily suggest that you all do the same. It’s one of the best ways we can actually change the world in which we live.
Now, if it were only so simple w/ income tax ;-)
January 15th, 2008 at 11:43 amBush isn’t just unpopular; he’s considered a national joke that a majority of Americans are ashamed of and the rest of the world laughs at with contempt and disregard. Bush isn’t simply unpopular; he’s loathed, rejected and condemned as a war-monger, liar, hypocrite, corporate shill, incompetent buffoon and shamelessly destructive fanatical extremist who says he talks to a god and believes his views take precedence over that of our founding fathers, our Constitutional provisions and our system and rules of law. Many people would consider such a person insane with power. Or maybe just insane. It’s not just that Bush is wholly corrupt, it’s also that he thinks he’s omnipotent.
January 15th, 2008 at 11:47 amZooey: I’ve been spending some time away from the keyboard here, chilling out. Things OK here, hope same with you.
January 15th, 2008 at 11:52 amAre Bush’s dismal approval ratings all that extraordinary?
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 15, 2008 @ 11:13 am
I note, Cap’n, that each of your examples are noted with specific times — season and year, or more precisely, month and year.
What makes THIS Bush’s approval rating extraordinary is that they have been in the toilet FOR YEARS. Consistently.
I’d say, given the examples you provide, that IS extraordinary.
January 15th, 2008 at 11:52 amlol, Bartlebee…the potato salad!
Kristol looks a constipated as Cheney feels.
January 15th, 2008 at 12:00 pmThings OK here, hope same with you.
Comment by Uncle Ho — January 15, 2008 @ 11:52 am
Yep, things are great. The new semester started last week. Speaking of which, I better git. :)
January 15th, 2008 at 12:00 pmThose authorities can have right-wing or left-wing political views.†– wikipedia.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 15, 2008 @ 11:59 am
Please don’t use the Wiki for facts. Sheesh…
I’m aware that there are liberal authoritarians, I used to be married to one. However, it is a very rare occurrence. Besides, it’s hardly the point, is it? The fact is, most wingnuts, such as yourself, are authoritarians, and most liberals, like me, are not.
January 15th, 2008 at 12:02 pmCaption contest:
I should have brought my Preparation H!
January 15th, 2008 at 12:05 pm65 cappie, thanks for explaining things to us….again. how about we take it from here since you have not been right about anything so far.
January 15th, 2008 at 12:08 pmbecause their Americans…
the possessive indicates someone owns some Americans.
did we bring back slavery?
January 15th, 2008 at 12:09 pmI think we should de-consvatise America when we regain power…..it would be for the best.
January 15th, 2008 at 12:11 pmFred ~ would that properly be called de-neoconization?
January 15th, 2008 at 12:27 pmOr, more properly deNeoConification?
January 15th, 2008 at 12:28 pm“i noticed last week (?) you learned – and taught me – a new term!
“submissive authoritarianâ€â€¦ excellent!”
Comment by katy — January 15, 2008 @ 11:19 am
Katy, You want a real mindblower? Check this out! Everything you ever wanted to know about why conservatives are so F’d up!
http://www.awitness.org/journal/political_conservatism_as_motivated_social_cognition_summary.html
It’s a great read to explain what’s wrong with them.
January 15th, 2008 at 12:39 pmAre Bush’s dismal approval ratings all that extraordinary?
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 15, 2008 @ 11:13 am
Yes, because they have been in the toilet for a long time. No American president has had such low approval ratings for as long a time as Bush. That is what makes it extraordinary. Many Presidents have had short periods of time where their approval ratings dipped, but none where they were in the toilet for more than a year.
January 15th, 2008 at 12:40 pmIn terms of obedience here, which of us is the greater authoritarian?
Comment by CaptainMantastic
You are. You obey your RNC masters by showing up here every day to spew your venom and idiocy. Many people on this blog disagree with what TP posts. I know I have on several occasions. I guess you just were absent on those days.
January 15th, 2008 at 12:43 pmthanks, radical… i’ll check it out…
January 15th, 2008 at 12:43 pmThe fact is, most wingnuts, such as yourself, are authoritarians, and most liberals, like me, are not.
Comment by Zooey
Actually Zooey, not all right wingnuts are authoritarians. Many are people who need a strong authority figure in their lives to tell them what to think and how to act. These are generally religious fanatics (the lord will tell them) and right wing nuts (their political leaders will tell them). Read John Dean’s Conservatives Without Conscience. He makes this all very clear.
January 15th, 2008 at 12:46 pm“Nixon’s approval dropped to 31 percent in August 1973 as the war dragged on in Vietnam and revelations of administration misdeeds kept spilling out of the Senate Watergate hearings.”
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 15, 2008 @ 11:13 am
Jeez, only 31% after things started spilling out? Now just imagine, if you will, Where Chimpy’s numbers would be if we could just have a similar hearing for his administration?
27% would seem like the Stratosphere in comparison when the full truth of the misdeeds of this crime cartel hits the street!
For the love of all that’s good can we PLEASE IMPEACH NOW!?!?!?
January 15th, 2008 at 12:47 pm“The “right-wing†in right-wing authoritarianism does not refer to someone’s politics but to his personality. It means the person has a strong need to submit to those he considers the established authorities in society. Those authorities can have right-wing or left-wing political views.†– wikipedia.
Comment by CaptainMantastic
Please show me any right-wing nut who submits to a left-wing authoritarian. Right wingers are either authoritarian figures or people who need authoritarian figures in their lives. John Dean spells it out quite clearly in his book Conservatives Without Conscience. I bet you will see yourself in his book if you had the courage to read it.
January 15th, 2008 at 12:49 pmAccording to a new Harris Interactive survey—as reported on The McLaughlin Group Sunday—Bush’s approval rating is 8 percent in Italy, 7 percent in Britain, 7 percent in Spain, 5 percent in Germany and 3 percent in France.
What the hell’s wrong with our 29%ers?
Comment by RUCerious — January 15, 2008 @ 10:59 am
Maybe it’s because their Americans?
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 15, 2008 @ 11:08 am
I understand now. Chauvinism is blinding them.
January 15th, 2008 at 12:58 pmAs usual Bill Krystal takes the conservative Republican view about an issue. Why the NYT ever gave him a job is beyond me. Just because he walks around crying wolf about Democrats and newspapers that don’t agree with his narrow minded view doesn’t mean you hire him. That are essentially wasting space in the paper by carrying his columns. Why? Because the editorial board has to correct his position after he write a slanted article about Iraq. If that’s how they hire people, then they should hire me to give my opinion. The NYT put the paper in a position for a law suit when they end up having to fire him. What is mostly likely to happen his Bill will get a golden parachute of about 10 million dollars to leave the paper.
January 15th, 2008 at 1:03 pmkristol’s picture on TP: a more constipated expression there could never be.
January 15th, 2008 at 1:05 pm.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 15, 2008 @ 10:59 am
Rebuke also means to turn back, or check, as it refute the details of the previous article, idiot.
January 15th, 2008 at 1:08 pmI read Mr. Kristol’s diatribe of soundbites and was, well, unimpressed. If he wants to believe that the surge was a resounding success by paying both sides not to attack and by locking down the city(as if this is a zero economic system is success)) while not aquiring any of our benchmark goals, well so be it. Reality doesn’t seem to be a long suit for his type anyway.
January 15th, 2008 at 1:08 pmkristol’s picture on TP: a more constipated expression there could never be.
.
Comment by pluege — January 15, 2008 @ 1:05 pm
Either that or “Phew. Maybe egg salad was a bad idea.”
January 15th, 2008 at 1:11 pm(That’s a joke).
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 15, 2008 @ 11:06 am
1 a: something said or done to provoke laughter
Here’s the definition from Websters since you’re so big on semantics. Clearly you are incapable of intentionally provoking laughter. What I mean is we’re not laughing with you we’re laughing at you.
January 15th, 2008 at 1:13 pmcappyM; I see that you are developing a sense of humor after all. I mean, saying Republican and tolerance in the same breath. keep practicing.
January 15th, 2008 at 1:13 pmI ususally don’t point out other peoples spelling or grammar mistakes, because I know I make my fair share.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 15, 2008 @ 11:52 am
What an ass.
January 15th, 2008 at 1:18 pmThe question becomes, it is chauvinism or resolve.
Are you in Barcelona? That is a beautiful city.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 15, 2008 @ 1:11 pm
Oh, I get it, resolve à la Lemming. No matter what, you keep walking towards the precipice.
Yes, I’m Barcelona, and yes, I love it :)
January 15th, 2008 at 1:19 pmIN Barcelona. Sheesh.
January 15th, 2008 at 1:20 pmYes, I’m Barcelona, and yes, I love it :)
Comment by Evil Spaniard — January 15, 2008 @ 1:19 pm
My typical bad timing. I was in Barcelona twice (on my way to Majorca) in 1970 and the next year learned about GaudÃ. Typical.
January 15th, 2008 at 1:21 pmWhy are you responding to manjastic? he’s such a 2nd grader…..
or…..he need the mental health care that dems will provide, even for him….
January 15th, 2008 at 1:23 pmI don’t recall one ThinkProgress posting that you disagree with. In sure there is, but you could refresh my memory.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 15, 2008 @ 12:39 pm
Because we don’t act like small children, when we disagree with a topic we generally don’t post on it. We move along to something we feel strongly about in the hopes of making a change. That’s why we’re not on a neocon site and you’re on a progressive site. Get it?
January 15th, 2008 at 1:23 pmI don’t think you’re an idiot, Shayne.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 15, 2008 @ 1:13 pm
Neither do I. Reading comprehension problems, early sign of dementia, better have it checked out. Oops I forgot you people don’t have health insurance.
January 15th, 2008 at 1:28 pmmaybe he wants to talk about healtcare…..gg ran like a scalded dog….they all do when faced with facts…
January 15th, 2008 at 1:29 pmBetter?
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 15, 2008 @ 1:17 pm
Sorry but humor is not your thing. Do you have a “thing”?
January 15th, 2008 at 1:29 pmCheneyCare for all
January 15th, 2008 at 1:31 pmususally – Cap’n
It’s usually, idiot.
January 15th, 2008 at 1:32 pmnew window link not working…..kinda like any repub idea…try this
We all deserve Cheney Care
January 15th, 2008 at 1:33 pmBetter than what?
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 15, 2008 @ 1:32 pm
He thinks he’s getting funnier. And HE doesn’t mean in the get the Cap’t a straighjacket way like we do.
January 15th, 2008 at 1:34 pmhey cap…..you will get help with your mental condition when the dems take over. We will make health care available to all….even you.
January 15th, 2008 at 1:35 pmAll that is needed for the forces of evil to succeed is for enough good men to remain silent. â€
Keep up the good work!
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 15, 2008 @ 1:33 pm
And that’s why WE’RE here to battle the “forces of evil” and YOU’RE here defending them. This who point just escaped you, is that it. You think we’re here remaining silent? My dog has better comprehension than you do.
January 15th, 2008 at 1:36 pmComment by BARTLEBEE — January 15, 2008 @ 1:35 pm
Good one Bart. Cap’n won’t get it and he won’t GET it.
January 15th, 2008 at 1:37 pmThey have to be mental to think we still want to hear what they think. repbubs have screwed up everything good about America and now that even the most unaware Americans have caught up with their lies and the handwriting is on the wall………they still think we want to listen to thier dumb ideas….failed policies, etc. man….get some help.
January 15th, 2008 at 1:38 pmI’m pretty crazy, do you think you can afford it?
Comment by CaptainMantastic
first honest thing I’ve ever heard you say…
January 15th, 2008 at 1:41 pmno one wants to discuss anything with you cappy….
we don’t care what you think is a mistake.
god, too bad you didn’t do some time in the military. It would have shown you how to behave like a man……not the wus you show here.
January 15th, 2008 at 1:49 pmFred. You are very kind. I’m pretty crazy, do you think you can afford it?
Comment by CaptainMantastic
Prefontal lobotomies were always my best operation. I can “do” you, dirt cheap.
January 15th, 2008 at 3:14 pmAnyway, I love the picture of Kristol.
He looks like his hemorhoid pillow just went flat.
January 15th, 2008 at 3:30 pmZooey. I don’t recall one ThinkProgress posting that you disagree with. In sure there is, but you could refresh my memory.
In terms of obedience here, which of us is the greater authoritarian?
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 15, 2008 @ 12:39 pm
Sorry about that memory, Captain, they say it’s the second thing to go. Oh, and sorry about that first thing as well.
Any Bill O’Reilly thread is useless. Same with Ann Coulter threads. That gossipy Roger Ailies thing last week — stupid.
Oh, and a bunch of us created our own blog. I think that screams dissatisfaction with much of what TP does.
Tooooodles.
January 15th, 2008 at 4:19 pmIt’s sounds like I can afford the sex, but would the brain operation be expensive?
Comment by CaptainMantastic
Nope. I’ve adapted one of Granny’s knitting needles. And it’ll only hurt for a second.
January 15th, 2008 at 5:07 pmThis is all rather vitriolic for such tolerant individuals, no?
January 15th, 2008 at 6:31 pm“This is all rather vitriolic for such tolerant individuals, no?” sniffs maracy, through a perfumed hankie.
If your tender sensibilities are offended, you can always find a site more dainty, and to your liking – we do still live in a democracy, after all (although for how long, after the thorough trashing conservatives have given the constitution, and rule of law, is anyone’s guess).
January 15th, 2008 at 8:37 pm“sounds state of the art…”
Comment by CaptainMantastic
I’m quicker than Sweeny Todd…
January 15th, 2008 at 8:39 pmBarfly – I must admit, I like your completion of my remarks. Seriously, I think the “sniffs maracy, through a perfumed hankie” is excellent. Have you ever thought of taking up writing? Well, I’m off now, to go buy, and then perfume, some hankies.
January 15th, 2008 at 8:46 pm