Bachmann: I’m ‘Proud’ That ‘We Have People Working Two Jobs’ And ‘Longer Hours’
Bachmann: I’m ‘Proud’ That ‘We Have People Working Two Jobs’ And ‘Longer Hours’
Topping Congress’s agenda as it returns this week is a plan to “jump-start the economy and try to shorten the slowdown that many economists say has already begun to take hold.”
Today, Rep. Eric Cantor (VA), the chief deputy Republican whip in the House, unveiled his proposal to stimulate the economy. His legislation — the so-called Middle Class Job Protection Act — does nothing for the middle class. Instead, it reduces the corporate tax rate by 28 percent.
At a press conference today unveiling the stimulus proposal, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) justified the conservative plan to give tax breaks to corporations — instead of working Americans — by arguing that people actually like working long hours:
I am so proud to be from the state of Minnesota. We’re the workingest state in the country, and the reason why we are, we have more people that are working longer hours, we have people that are working two jobs.
Bachmann’s version of the American Dream is apparently working two full-time jobs and struggling to get by.
Yesterday, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office concluded that corporate tax cuts, such as the one proposed by Cantor, “may be less cost-effective in the short term” and less effective than a stimulus plan consisting of “tax rebates, extended unemployment benefits and a temporary increase in food stamps.”
Bachmann may be taking her cues from her bosom buddy President Bush, who on Feb. 4, 2005, told a divorced mother of three: “You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn’t it? I mean, that is fantastic that you’re doing that.”
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Isn't this the crazy person that attached herself to Bush after the State of the Union address awhile back?
January 16th, 2008 at 3:43 pmMaybe the Republics would like to square this with their complaint about having to work a five-day week. I mean, if we all prefer working 80 hours a week, they must love it too, right?
January 16th, 2008 at 3:44 pmI used to be a proud Minnesotan . . . until bimbos like Bachmann and lap dogs like Normie Coleman got elected.
January 16th, 2008 at 3:45 pmThe perpetual attack on the middle class rages on...
then they complain about Bolsheviks storming the Czar's palace.
January 16th, 2008 at 3:46 pmBachmann, step away from the koolaid. You've reached maximum saturation.
January 16th, 2008 at 3:48 pmFamily values anyone? How can you raise a family when you're not home?
January 16th, 2008 at 3:48 pmThere are lots of intangible costs associated with a second and third job. Like not being able to spend as much time with your kids.
Why do these sock puppets hate our children>?
January 16th, 2008 at 3:49 pmBachmann need to give Bushie boy a BJ. And perhaps she already did !
January 16th, 2008 at 3:49 pm#2 - And didn't the Dems just rescind the idea of working a 5 day work week for this year? So much for actually working for $160,000 and great benefits. The people I know working two jobs are doing it to pay for food and gas, not for the luxuries.
January 16th, 2008 at 3:49 pmHis legislation — the so-called Middle Class Job Protection Act — does nothing for the middle class. Instead, it reduces the corporate tax rate by 25 percent.
They really are masters at double speak, aren't they. The Healthy Forest Act (means clearcutting), the Clear Skys Act (means polluting our environment). I do wish that the Democrats would learn from them. They need to rename the SCHIP bill the "Healthy Child Act". But, that would not be double speak, it would be true. But the branding can work even if it is truthful branding.
January 16th, 2008 at 3:49 pm#2 - And didn’t the Dems just rescind the idea of working a 5 day work week for this year?
Comment by texaslady
Not that I know of. Where did you hear that?
January 16th, 2008 at 3:52 pm#6 Bingo ! My thoughts as well. Maybe that is why the teachers are complaining about the kids being so unruly. No parental guidance perhaps?
January 16th, 2008 at 3:52 pmoh boy, another american dream.... longer hours, 2 jobs, JUNK pay....
hell yeah!
January 16th, 2008 at 3:52 pmFrom her face and jewels it looks like she also has two jobs...
January 16th, 2008 at 3:53 pm... someone better loosen up the moron's faux-pearls choke ... obvious lack of oxygen to her repub pea brain ....
January 16th, 2008 at 3:53 pmI wonder if she would feel the same way if she had to work longer hours and two jobs to make ends meet? Course I think that elected officials should get paid minimum wage, but that is just me.
January 16th, 2008 at 3:54 pm#11 Steny Hoyer 10/07 to the New York Times that starting Jan they will be taking Fridays off. You can double check at google...Dems taking time off.
January 16th, 2008 at 3:55 pmsomeone better loosen up the moron’s faux-pearls choke
Bachmann tries hard but she still ends up being an even dumber version of Katherine Harris.
January 16th, 2008 at 3:56 pmMinnesota is the "workingest" state??? Is that even a word, or is Bachmann still trying to get through 4th grade English?
This is just supply-side economics in a pretty package to try to appeal to those Americans not paying attention and the 23%ers. This economic policy has proven to be an utter failure twice since Reagan -- we're in the midst of the second failure -- and yet the repukes think that if they keep beating this dead horse it'll somehow come back to life and win the race.
Whether it was Einstein or Franklin who said it, the quote applies here: "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result each time."
Neocon Economics = The Definition of Insanity
January 16th, 2008 at 3:56 pmShe has a point as we see Americans aren't doing anything about the problems the Republicans have put us in except saying Bill Clinton did it or it's the Dems fault. If a Republican gets to be President two jobs wont be enough you'll have to work 4 jobs and send your kids to work. Rev. Huck even wants the Constitution to change to GOD's Law that Republicans have established as Satan's work. Mitt just gave the people of Michigan a promise he knows will never happen but they brought it anyway. As the Middle East is getting richer with the US taxpayers money their laughing all the way to the bank and rightly so.
January 16th, 2008 at 3:57 pmBachmann tries hard but she still ends up being an even dumber version of Katherine Harris.
Comment by tom — January 16, 2008 @ 3:56 pm
Not the first to make that comparison. Check it out.
January 16th, 2008 at 3:57 pmSo I take it that these Repukes are so out of touch with the American public that they actually think that longer hours (away from family) and two jobs (even longer time away from family) just to make ends meet are "Uniquely American"?
WTF is wrong with the vile scum sucking Christofascist corporatist pigs? Have they been so coddled and silver spooned that they haven't got a clue about how the middle class are struggling?
What vile subhuman pigs they truly are.
Guess it's time for Daryll, the closeted gay to show up and tell everyone that since he and his neighbors are doing fine, everyone else is also doing just fine. Sick ahole.
Buck Fush
January 16th, 2008 at 3:58 pmCourse I think that elected officials should get paid minimum wage, but that is just me.
Comment by Krazny
And me.
January 16th, 2008 at 3:58 pmThink about it, keep the poor and middle class working all the time and who has time to read or care about how the government is spending our money ? We get snippets from government talking heads and pretty soon we are as dumb down as they prefer.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:01 pmby the way, all you single mothers, spend more time with your children and less time working so hard so that you can afford your weekly abortions and shopping trips to Paris!
January 16th, 2008 at 4:02 pmMichele:
Wealth is not measured in the number of jobs you can hold down at the same time.
It is determined by REAL quality of life...HERE IN REALITY...meaning the hours you spend with friends and family, or in recreational, educational or creative pursuits that enrich yourself and others in ways that MONEY CAN'T BY.
Not that you'd have any grasp of that, apparently.
FYI, debt is the opposite of wealth. The American savings rate has never been lower. THAT is precisely what people are working more hours. And YOUR PRESIDENT and YOUR FED CHAIRMAN encouraged Americans to assume all the debt they could sign up for.
It's Gameoverville, Michele, and you seem delighted about it.
Must be the offshore account that has you so pleased.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:04 pmWe get snippets from government talking heads and pretty soon we are as dumb down as they prefer.
Comment by texaslady
Welcome to any Third World Country...
January 16th, 2008 at 4:04 pmWhen the convictions are in and sentences are handed down, this clown gets hard labor.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:04 pm#11 Steny Hoyer 10/07 to the New York Times that starting Jan they will be taking Fridays off. You can double check at google…Dems taking time off.
Comment by texaslady
Well, that's disappointing, but not unexpected. The Dems haven't come through for us on anything, why should they have kept that promise?
January 16th, 2008 at 4:04 pmBachmann sounds just like President Bush:
While pitching his Social Security privatization scheme in February 2005, President Bush told a 57 year-old woman who described working three jobs that her story was "uniquely American" and "fantastic."
January 16th, 2008 at 4:05 pmby the way, all you single mothers, spend more time with your children and less time working so hard so that you can afford your weekly abortions and shopping trips to Paris!
Comment by renato
Well, this has to be about the most disgusting troll post ever. Everyone write to TP and ask them to get rid of this clown.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:06 pmso the b!tch is from minnesota?
there's a woodchipper with your name on it, b!tch!
Caption Contest: "Help! The pearl necklace is too tight!"
January 16th, 2008 at 4:06 pmWell, Minnesota shure has the ignorantest Senators in all the U of SA
January 16th, 2008 at 4:06 pmCaption: "Let them eat cake!"
January 16th, 2008 at 4:06 pm#28 - Well 4 days is still better than the 2 or 3 as before. Monday to travel back and Wed or Thursday traveling home. In Charlie Wilson's War he would ask his assistant how he should be voting on a certain Bill. Bet that is close to the truth....assistants running the show.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:07 pmCatption contest:
Bush is Coming!
January 16th, 2008 at 4:08 pmThe simplest middle class stimulus package should be an increase in the mortgage interest deduction for first mortgages on primary residences. If you allowed a 150% deduction of mortgage interest for a period of three years, they would do a lot to solve this mess. The people for a change would be "bailed out" not Wall Street and international capital.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:08 pm3 jobs! uniquely american! ...
...
there, now it's OT...
*
*there's still time before you clock out, TP...
you need to find a way to spin the
KUCINICH / MSNBC / NEVADA SUPREME COURT case
to your liking... because i think it's pretty damn UNprogressive that
the courts are not only picking our president, but they have now decided
that they will pick the presidential CANDIDATES too (h/t randi)...
just sayin'...
January 16th, 2008 at 4:08 pmYou liberals are all just jealositized that some good conservatarianites are dedicated to hard workingestors.
You all just want people to sit around and lazileritying taking their easy singularitumd salaries from their one employer.
You'd think that just for once we would learn to apprecialining the truly dedicatorianosters.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:09 pmSeems to me like the old lady of the "V" series, the one who allied with the aliens.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:10 pmWorking two jobs is the American dream?!
January 16th, 2008 at 4:11 pmWhat is wrong with these people?
Do they have to pass a moron test to be elected?
Bush did; is that the norm now?
Ah, Juan, she does look like a lizard under that thin skin!
January 16th, 2008 at 4:11 pmOoops, Juan, I thought you were talking about Diana, lizard lady leader...
January 16th, 2008 at 4:12 pmI guess middle school is out and renato has access to the keyboard, just not intelligence.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:12 pmI used to believe I lived in Mizz Bachmann's (she once bit the head off a local reporter for calling her "Mizz") district. Actually, I lucked out by two blocks so I don't have to bear any personal responsibility for her insane ravings and positions.
From all I've heard from her I'm led to believe that she should be committed. Positively certifiable.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:12 pmComment by El Cid — January 16, 2008 @ 4:09 pm
Best laugh-out-loud I've had all day -- thanks, El Cid!
January 16th, 2008 at 4:12 pmYeah, who wants to be like those disgusting Europeans and work 36 hours a week and have complete healthcare and college education, every job having paid vacations, sick leave, and annual leave, minimum wage about $10, etc [sark]? That's socialism.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:12 pmweekly abortions and shopping trips to Paris!
damn!... you just reminded me!... i forgot all about my appointment...
now i'll have to schedule it as a LATE TERM ABORTION...
ah well... better LATE than never... as they say... if you will...
i LOVE paris in the spring!
January 16th, 2008 at 4:13 pm"Middle Class Jobs Protection" thata gives corporations a tax break?!
January 16th, 2008 at 4:13 pmLike the Frank Luntz school of marketing - title your program with something exactly the opposite: "clear skies initiative" = give polluters a break.
It's enough to make you weep. Haven't these air-heads learned what the Europeans and others have long known and done. The function of the State is to provide for the health and welfare of the citizens. This means medical care, with minimum (!!!) co-payment, long term unemployment insurance, provision for housing , heat, and food for those who cannot provide for themselves.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:14 pmIt's disingenuous to say that we can't afford it. Without the latest war, as an attempt to perpetuate American hegemony, we could have afforded it, and couls have saved 4000 lives, and avoided the very severe wounds of the injured.
able as
Caption Contest: "Mr. Vice President -- please don't stick it there!!!"
January 16th, 2008 at 4:15 pmComment by able as — January 16, 2008 @ 4:14 pm
I agree, but make that 1,104,000 lives.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:16 pmComment by RUCerious — January 16, 2008 @ 4:06 pm
Thankfully, she's a Rep, not a Senator, though I don't care much for our Senators either. Actually, she's the worst of our bunch by a large margin and, by all reports, stands virtually no chance of being reelected.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:17 pmFurther evidence of the disconnect between the public and our selected officials. Can we just concede that the system needs a reboot now? Vote the bastards out!
January 16th, 2008 at 4:17 pmYou mean some people only have to work two jobs?
January 16th, 2008 at 4:18 pmi LOVE paris in the spring!
Comment by katy — January 16, 2008 @ 4:13 pm
If we wait until spring we can have an extra abortion before we go. Yippee.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:19 pmCould someone tell me how this jives with parents being involved with their kids ? and as low involvement correlates with low test scores, how this jives with No Child Left Behind ?
While I'm at it, why does the so called fiscally responsible president tell the poor to spend more ?
January 16th, 2008 at 4:20 pmOoops, Juan, I thought you were talking about Diana, lizard lady leader…
Comment by RUCerious
Nahhh, Diana is THA LADY.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:21 pmKeith - South America and Europe....Venezuelan company here in Houston 10 years ago, provided a month vacation first year of employment. Crazy idea, rested workers produce quality work. Those out of control countries having their workers best interest at heart.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:21 pmBachmann, step away from the koolaid. You’ve reached maximum saturation.
Comment by hellinabucket — January 16, 2008 @ 3:48 pm
Judging by the picture, the powder she is using is NOT koolaid.
Then again, if you are tweaking as bad as she looks to be, holding down two jobs is easy.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:22 pmFrom ThinkProgress Feb 23, 2007:
In a recent interview, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) claimed that she knows of a secret plan by Iran to partition Iraq and turn half of the country into a “terrorist safe haven zone†called the “Iraq State of Islam.â€
January 16th, 2008 at 4:22 pmBachmann is whacked right out of her skull. Out of touch, not in tune...
I wonder if she tastes her shoes before she buys them. As they will inevitably end up in her mouth.
Neo-Crazy.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:23 pm#56 - People who spend more have to work more, no time to think or educate themselves about what the leaders are doing.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:23 pmBachmann went on to say "I LOVE that our great Minnesotans have to decide between working two jobs or not being able to make rent. I think it's OUTSTANDING that SO many hardworking families work one crap job for the benefits, and the other crap job to cover the increasingly expensive copays the benefits don't cover. It does my heart warm to know so many single mothers in Minnesota work the pole at night after wokring all day in a Wal-mart, to be able to afford baby formula. And that the parents of those single mothers are willing to be live-in babysitters since their old employers' pissed away their pension funds and the fluctuations in the stock market forced them to give up on their dream of enjoying their golden years. This is absolutely the best possible state when you have no other options available to you, and I couldn't be more proud of that fact."
Bachmann then went on to demand peasants to lie on the street so nearby puddles didn't soil her expensive Manholo Blahnik shoes before being whisked away by her taxpayer-covered driver to a Republican fundraiser.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:26 pmJuan ~ Faye Grant (Julie), Yum, Yum...
January 16th, 2008 at 4:30 pmWhat the matter? Are the Dems to scared to actually cut taxes? A Tax Rebate isn't a tax cut. The repugs and the dems need to work together. Currently, both plans suck. We need a large tax cut for all tax paying Americans if we stand any chance at stopping a possible recession. Furthermore, we need massive reductions in government spending.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:32 pmFamily values anyone? How can you raise a family when you’re not home?
Comment by OptimisticMF —
Exactly~
And Republican-backed creditors are flying like vulchers over needy people.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:32 pmFurthermore, we need massive reductions in government spending.
Comment by Roger_Roger — January 16, 2008 @ 4:32 pm
Yah, gotta pay that two trillion for the Iraq war somehow!
January 16th, 2008 at 4:37 pmRepublicans are simply not human beings.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:37 pmIt's only a matter of time before reich-wingers will claim they are proud that millions of Americans are standing in soup lines because the corporate tax breaks are so important.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:44 pmInstead of spending gobs of money in Iraq perhaps that two trillion could have been used to fund alternative energy projects? You know, projects that actually employ people so that those people can then go out and spend money in their communities so that even more people can then go out and spend money AND we'd have something to show for it!
Alternative energy solutions
January 16th, 2008 at 4:45 pmvs.
Millions more who hate us because we bombed the crap out of their countries and continue to try to steal their resources
Minnesota: The Most Workinest, dontcha know!!
January 16th, 2008 at 4:49 pmOh, good lord.
This batshit crazy broad is evidently channeling Marie Antoinette.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:53 pmThe former is with apologies to bats everywhere. :o/
January 16th, 2008 at 4:54 pmWhat the matter? Are the Dems to scared to actually cut taxes? A Tax Rebate isn’t a tax cut.
Comment by Roger_Roger
The Democrats are not scared to cut taxes. They just know that cutting taxes when we are borrowing billions of dollars a month from China would be financial suicide. If anything, we will eventually need to increase taxes to get ourselves out of this hole Bush and the Republiscums have gotten us into. The Democrats are talking about a temporary solution to stimulate the economy. But even that isn't going to work. The economy is going to crash because Bush has spent us into a hole like a drunken sailor. The only way to get us out of this financial mess is to make the Corporations pay their fair share of taxes. Then we will be able to begin to pay down the massive debt the Republiscums have gotten us into. And don't scream about how the "poor" corporations can't afford to pay more taxes and not lay off employees. Of course they can, they will just have to lower their profit margins somewhat. They are not going to go broke until they have bankrupted everyone in this country and there are no longer any consumers to buy their goods.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:59 pm"I am so proud to be from the state of Minnesota. We’re the workingest state in the country, and the reason why we are, we have more people that are working longer hours, we have people that are working two jobs."
This comment is so stupid you'd think it came from this page:
January 16th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Minnesotans, it's up to you. If you want to be represented by this insane, bible-thumpin' piece of crap, that's your choice. But she simply makes you look like fools. You're Minnesota, for crissakes, not Alabama. Get out there and get rid of this horrible person you've got representing you!
January 16th, 2008 at 4:59 pmthis page:
January 16th, 2008 at 5:00 pmhttp://www.notable-quotes.com/h/hilton_paris.html
She must have some Barbara Bush DNA in her. Obviously snorting cloned cow shit.
January 16th, 2008 at 5:02 pm"Bachmann: I’m ‘Proud’ That ‘We Have People Working Two Jobs’ And ‘Longer Hours’ "
Another out to lunch rep. She certainly overdosed on the koolaid from her comments.
January 16th, 2008 at 5:04 pm"We’re the workingest state in the country, and the reason why we are, we have more people that are working longer hours, we have people that are working two jobs." Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN)
"... told a divorced mother of three: “You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn’t it? I mean, that is fantastic that you’re doing that.â€
Resident of the WH Chimpy (R-pretends to be from TX actually from CT)
It never ceases to amaze me te ease at which these sick bastards can turn a negative into a positive. It's like some kind of Sigfried & Roy show with no tigers and more pain!
January 16th, 2008 at 5:15 pmYeah, I'm real proud of the fact that working people pay a higher tax rate than hedge fund managers do. Hedge fund managers get paid at the capital gains tax rate of 15%, instead of the 35%+ tax rate they would pay if they were paid salaries.
January 16th, 2008 at 5:18 pmYou can work 2 jobs, cuz you're the workingest person in town and still pay income taxes at a higher rate than the guys on Wall Street.
John Edwards keeps telling people about Warren Buffet's latest stunt which is priceless. Buffet has offered $1 million in cash to any member of the Fortune 400 who can prove that he or she pays a higher tax rate than his secretary and so far, nobody has taken him up on the challenge.
January 16th, 2008 at 5:23 pmI just love watching jerks like Roger_Roger posting about how we have to work together in order to avoid a recession. Why would that be necessary - RETARD. How many times have we heard how the conservatives and Republicans had built this economy into a real machine - A**HOLE? How many times did you trumpet the great American economy and how strong it had become through the philosophy and actions of the conservatives and Republicans - JERK *FF? PRESIDENT BUSH WILL BE KNOWN AS THE PRESIDENT HAVING PRESIDED OVER THE START OF TWO RECESSIONS. GOES RIGHT ALONG WITH HIS RECORD BREAKING FALL IN THE POLLS TO BECOMING THE MOST HATED PRESIDENT IN HISTORY.
January 16th, 2008 at 5:25 pm#74 If anything, we will eventually need to increase taxes to get ourselves out of this hole Bush and the Republiscums have gotten us into.
Increase taxes, we should be clear, on those who don't have to work two jobs to live in a mansion.
January 16th, 2008 at 5:25 pmUnfortunately, Sonny Perdue here in GA said something similar in his "State of the State" address, when he recognized some woman who had five kids, and she was working two jobs, and going to school at night.
You might think he was pointing her out to say "we don't want to make it as hard as she has it, just to get ahead." But no. He was holding her up as an example to follow.
So all you people with five kids, and that one job and night school, get your ass in gear, folks. Walmart needs a greeter.
January 16th, 2008 at 5:30 pmYou’re Minnesota, for crissakes, not Alabama. Get out there and get rid of this horrible person you’ve got representing you!
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — January 16, 2008 @ 4:59 pm
It's in the works. Her constituents are NOT happy. She road the revenge/fear wave of 9/11 but has proven to be obviously deranged. I can't imagine she will get a second term.
January 16th, 2008 at 5:31 pmStepford Reps?
January 16th, 2008 at 5:32 pmLast time I was in Minnesota all the retired people were working in fast food joints and discount retail for min. wage because they couldnt afford to live.
January 16th, 2008 at 5:34 pmImpolitics, that's great news. Thanks. Some analysts have estimated that the Dems will pick up another 30 or so seats in the House this November. If that happens and they gain another 9 seats in the Senate as is predicted, they'll have supermajorities in both houses and this repube obstruction machine is OVER.
As far as Bachman is concerned, just look at those eyes. Have you ever seen anything so creepy. She's got a future in horror movies.
January 16th, 2008 at 5:36 pmShe was either dropped on her head at birth or potty trained backwards...there has to be something that causes a female to be a crazy, reichwing, knuckledragging, bottom feeder.
January 16th, 2008 at 5:46 pmLast time I was in Minnesota all the retired people were working in fast food joints and discount retail for min. wage because they couldnt afford to live.
Comment by Xisithrus — January 16, 2008 @ 5:34 pm
I've gotta call BS on that one. Mn is one of the best places to retire. Living here is one of the things which enabled me to retire early. I'm sure we have as many troubled senior citizens as anywhere, but, we do have some excellent programs and facilities for us.
These include part-time work programs for those who need extra income, or, a way to fill idle hours. I've only been retired a little more than a year so I'm not bored yet. However, I may take advantage of one of them or participate in one of the many "mentoring" programs.
January 16th, 2008 at 5:53 pmThat look on Bachmann's face reminds me of a Jack Handey quote that Bachmann might say:
"I hope some animal never bores a hole in my head and lays its eggs in my brain, because later you might think you're having a good idea but it's just eggs hatching."
- Tom
January 16th, 2008 at 5:56 pmHer husband has a master's degree in counseling from Regent University.
She's a fundie who supports teaching Intelligent Design in public schools.
She's doing the work of the lord...
January 16th, 2008 at 6:04 pmImpolitics falls victim to the logical fallacy that if it's fine for you, it's fine for everyone else too.
January 16th, 2008 at 6:05 pm“I am so proud to be from the state of Minnesota. We’re the workingest state in the country, and the reason why we are, we have more people that are working longer hours, we have people that are working two jobs.â€
Seriously, screw this B!TCH. I'm sorry, we couldn't understand you with that silver phallus in your mouth.
January 16th, 2008 at 6:16 pmRemember the 50's? When the middle class worked 1 job, and could afford healthcare, gasoline, a decent meal (not hamburger helper), a new car, schooling, clothing.
Impolitics falls victim to the logical fallacy that if it’s fine for you, it’s fine for everyone else too.
Comment by Race Condition — January 16, 2008 @ 6:05 pm
Where did that come from? All I asserted is that Mn is no worse for the aged than anywhere else and it's better than many. The statement that, "all the retired people were working fast-food and retail because they can't afford to live", is, at best, a wild generalization. And, at worst, it's flat untrue.
I know that there are many retirees who struggle. I help many of them out. But, I don't know of one who suffers because of some inherent, unique, fault of Minnesota's policies and lifestyle.
January 16th, 2008 at 6:17 pmFurthermore, we need massive reductions in government spending.
Comment by Roger_Roger — January 16, 2008 @ 4:32 pm
Yes, let's end the wars we're losing.
January 16th, 2008 at 6:18 pmWow. If Minnesotans don't vote for Franken, then they're stupider than the Connecticut electorate. And I thought that was as stupid as it could get.
January 16th, 2008 at 6:21 pmRoger Roger: "Furthermore, we need massive reductions in government spending."
I thought your argument was that tax cuts increase revenue. Which is it? You can't have both sides of the argument. If tax cuts increase revenue, why do you need to cut spending?
January 16th, 2008 at 6:22 pmFranken over Bush toadie Norm Coleman? I would think that this would be a no-brainer, but what do I know? These people sent this raving maniac Bachman to congress.
January 16th, 2008 at 6:24 pmIs Bachmann the Republican party cumdumpster? After all, she is wearing a pearl neckless.
January 16th, 2008 at 6:28 pmThis Bachman chick is so obviously bipolar that it's pathetic! She probably doesn't sleep for weeks herself or keeps herself up using uppers with the dilation of those pupils! Another typical Repuke-lican nutjob! And she's probably the first one to complain that the Dems are making them work 40 hour work weeks, too.
January 16th, 2008 at 6:28 pmI don't know if she's the local sperm dumpster but she looks like a raving lunatic.
January 16th, 2008 at 6:29 pmRoger Roger: “Furthermore, we need massive reductions in government spending.â€
What did the Romans ever give us?
Well the roads. Okay other than the roads. Ah education. Okay other than the roads and education. The aquaducts. Okay other than the roads, the education, the aquaducts.... What have the Romans ever given us?
and so it goes...
January 16th, 2008 at 6:37 pmCaption:
"Groupies for GeeDub!!!"
or
"OUCH! Who pinched my @ss? is that you Newt?"
January 16th, 2008 at 6:43 pmShe sure does have that tweaker look about her. Well other than the teeth
January 16th, 2008 at 6:45 pmMe hearts some more work.
January 16th, 2008 at 7:02 pmcaption:
"A job offer?!!!! From CONDI?!!!!!!!!
January 16th, 2008 at 7:07 pmOh goody goody goody goody goody goody goody gooooooooody!!!!!!!"
I totally support massive reductions in spending. Bring home the troops.
January 16th, 2008 at 7:08 pmCan this lunatic pass as a lamp post? Her IQ certainly would support it.
move along...nothing to see here..just another wingnut flapping around aimlessly...
January 16th, 2008 at 7:19 pmworkingest???? - the word sounds made up to me - and i wonder how these workingest people cope healthwise? - stress? high blood pressure? exhaustion?
January 16th, 2008 at 7:45 pmIf common folk have to work two or three jobs then we have less time for family, too busy to notice how far this Bi-Partisan assault on the Constitution is progressing, and the stress is causing more illness which will benefit "liberals" like Ted Kennedy who want to eliminate vitamin companies through the FDA regulations by having us put money into pharmaceuticals. Ron Paul, Mike Gravel, and Dennis Kucinich are the only presidential candidates that are not Soft Fascists, along with a handful of others like Dodd and Wexler. Pitiful.....:(
January 16th, 2008 at 8:10 pmJust for you people who think Ted Kennedy is a "friend" of the common person...read on:
http://www.newswithviews.com/Richards/byron36.htm
http://www.wellnessresources.com/newsroom/index.php/content/articles/s1082_the_voice_of_the_people_is_being_heard/
No more hawthorn berries for blood pressure, CoQ10 for cellular regeneration, Gingko Biloba for brain function, or Vitamin C for colds. Most of the Congress and Senate have big bucks in Pharms, and some even sit on the board of directors. Stress from working two jobs? No problem...SSRIs for you!!!!
January 16th, 2008 at 8:20 pm"...by arguing that people actually like working long hours:"
And corporations love paying large tax bills.
January 16th, 2008 at 9:19 pmSo we are even.
I agree that a corporate tax cut is not the best way to stimulate the economy in the short-term; still, and I know I'm in the minority (of one?) here, but I think it makes good sense for our long-term economic policy. Further, I don't think there's any denying that such a tax cut would help corporations increase their investments and hirings.
January 16th, 2008 at 9:39 pm"Further, I don’t think there’s any denying that such a tax cut would help corporations increase their investments and hirings."
Comment by thirdparty
Or allow them to further off-shore jobs, and fatten their off-shore corporate accounts...
January 16th, 2008 at 10:06 pmTheir investments into what? Their hirings of whom? I think Barfly has those answers. What a crock of sh*t is this...
January 16th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Yes, both parents working two or three jobs and the breakdown of the family
January 16th, 2008 at 11:16 pmis exactly what the federal reserve system planned and are now realizing.
Check out the response from the Democratic candidate in this race:
January 17th, 2008 at 12:43 am
Well, you guys do need a reduction in corporate taxes...the U.S has some of the highest corporate tax rates among the developed nations at 36%.
Ireland lowered their corporate tax rate to 12% and their economy is booming with great jobs, geez, even Canada has a lower corporate tax rate at 32%.
The same applies to many 'socialist' countries like Norway, Sweden and Finland...they all have lower corporate tax rates with higher sales taxes to make up for it.
America is in desperate need of a corporate tax reduction.
January 17th, 2008 at 12:57 amWealthy individuals pay far too little taxes. Warren Buffett is right.
January 17th, 2008 at 2:03 am"#2 - And didn’t the Dems just rescind the idea of working a 5 day work week for this year? So much for actually working for $160,000 and great benefits.
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Comment by texaslady"
Which beats the hell out of the Republican's 1 1/2 day work week in the last Congress.
January 17th, 2008 at 2:36 am"Isn’t this the crazy person that attached herself to Bush after the State of the Union address awhile back?
Comment by gummitch"
The very same. She's also the one who said she had the inside dope about how Iraq would be split up. She messed up the geography and the Shiite - Sunni placment, had several provinces set aside for terrorist traing territories and then demonstated that she was clueless Iran's ethnic and religious content.
It made you fightened that a US Congressperson, serving on committees, debating and voting on legislation was so completely stupid.
January 17th, 2008 at 2:43 amWealthy individuals pay far too little taxes. Warren Buffett is right.
Comment by Cosmonaut — January 17, 2008 @ 2:03 am
But Buffett's point is that most of his earnings are gained through capital gains taxes, which are taxed at a lower rate than the income tax. Perhaps the answer is the reduce the income tax on the middle class, then, rather than increase the capital gains tax, which would discourage risk and investment.
January 17th, 2008 at 3:09 amDamn you Political Muse! It's a great press release!
http://buildourparty.blogspot.com/2008/01/bachmanns-proudwere-living-paycheck-to.html
http://buildourparty.blogspot.com/2008/01/bachmann-challenger-bob-olson-on.html
Help Bob beat Bachmann, send him a donation!
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January 17th, 2008 at 7:11 am"His legislation — the so-called Middle Class Job Protection Act — does nothing for the middle class. Instead, it reduces the corporate tax rate by 25 percent."
That is a great idea! Nothing would stimulate the economy and create jobs and increase government revenue better than a corporate tax cut. In fact, since the combination of corporate taxes and personal taxes is double taxation maybe we should eliminate corporate taxes. After that, we should do away with the IRS and initiate a national sales tax. Forcing us middle-class people to fill out a form that even trained accountants have problems with is far from fair. I love living in Florida simply because I do not have to fill out two damn income tax forms every year, as I had to do in over taxed, so-called progressive New Jersey, the Garden State.
January 17th, 2008 at 7:33 amWe spend our whole lives working too much, and not being with the people we love! Our families! She is "against families"!
January 17th, 2008 at 10:41 amFirst, I have no opinion as I don’t have enough information on the subject. I don’t think it’s intelligent or fair to make a judgment on something you haven’t researched or know anything about. Of course it’s apparent the bias of this website so it will attract an extreme of some sort. However, I think we should all consider our own hypocrisy as well. Some of these comments are simply anger and ignorance mixed with complaining and a need to vent. So watch it when you accuse someone of hate speech because you might be guilty of it yourself, which would make you a hypocrite just like the person you are calling a hypocrite. Thank you #19 for having an opinion with some meat in it, not just disagreeing because you don’t like a person. I appreciate that kind of comment and that is what changes people’s minds, education rather than mindless bitter diatribes with no substance. Just my opinion. I’m sure someone will now make a judgment about me though I have put forth no real opinion and tear me apart. Oh well! Viva America! The beauty of free speech. By the way, I work two jobs and not because the government screwed me over, I made mistakes with my life and my finances and now I have to pay for them, a little personal responsibility goes a long way.
January 17th, 2008 at 11:20 amThis is the problem when the majority of those who lead us are the wealthy elite, they and all their friends and colleagues have huge homes, every luxury, and the very best guaranteed retirement plan. Why should they care about the middle class or give a thought to those who live in poverty? And our wealthy ruling elite also have the absolute best healthcare plan, all for free (or nearly free) simply because they govern us, and… well they think they deserve it, anyway it’s law. So why should they really give it one thought. They simply have too much to do helping big corporations maximize the bottom line profits, and finding ways to continue the massive military-industrial complex that has fueled the USA’s economy so successfully since WWII.
January 17th, 2008 at 12:42 pm“Further, I don’t think there’s any denying that such a tax cut would help corporations increase their investments and hirings.â€
Comment by thirdparty
Or allow them to further off-shore jobs, and fatten their off-shore corporate accounts…
Comment by barfly — January 16, 2008 @ 10:06 pm
Our corporate tax law hurts our global competitiveness. Companies have an incentive to build offices abroad and hire workers abroad when they account for our terribly high corporate tax rate. The idea is anathema to the left because it assists corporations directly, but you guys fail to understand how it will also help workers and boost the overall American economy.
January 17th, 2008 at 2:02 pmHave you ever noticed that the party of no ideas has only one when it comes to everything? Tax cuts for the wealthiest and the elite?
January 17th, 2008 at 2:08 pmHave you ever noticed that the party of no ideas has only one when it comes to everything? Tax cuts for the wealthiest and the elite?
Comment by ucsbclassics53 — January 17, 2008 @ 2:08 pm
I find that interesting, since the Dems also want to cut taxes for the wealthiest in the form of a corporate tax cut.
Frankly, I don't see a lot of fresh policy ideas coming from either side. Hillary dabbled in her baby bonds idea for a bit, but other than that the Democrats have been kind of reticent about creating big changes. Just look at the Social Security debate Barack Obama tried to have.
January 17th, 2008 at 2:39 pmThe only change the Dems seem to want is mandating health care coverage, which seems a little statist to me.
Here's the link, by the way, to the story about the Dems cutting the corporate tax rate.
http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/afx/2007/10/25/afx4262437.html
January 17th, 2008 at 2:40 pmBachmann, Katherine Harris, Jean Schmidt, anyone notice a trend here?
January 17th, 2008 at 10:19 pmAnyone recall when her crush Bush thought it was "great, just great" when meeting a single mother who had to work three jobs?
Republicans are scum. Soulless, pus-sucking scum.
January 17th, 2008 at 11:30 pmSkank.
January 18th, 2008 at 12:11 amWTF..."workingest"?!? Just goes to show what happens to the higher brain functions when the heart stops beating and your blood grows as cold as Bachmann's seems to be.
Pity that she clearly didn't put quite as much effort into her studies when she was in school as the people whom she praises are doing now by working two jobs -- because had she done so, she would have known that there's no such word as "workingest".
January 18th, 2008 at 12:39 amThere's a special level of hell reserved for people who attach nice titles to bad legislation.
January 18th, 2008 at 7:12 amHow the heck did this bimbo get elected,apparently she won on her looks, she has no brains.She is a typlical bootlicking neocon , she is just like the rest who only care about lining the pockets of their crony`s and themselves,and they call themselves CHRISTIANS.
January 29th, 2008 at 2:12 pm