Bush: Should I ‘go in fetal position because of polls?’
By on Jan 16th, 2008 at 9:55 am
Bush: Should I ‘go in fetal position because of polls?’
Yesterday on ABC, President Bush discussed his poor image at home and abroad. “I’m sure people view me as a warmonger. And I view myself as a peacemaker,” he declared. Bush said his 32 percent approval rating — the “worst approval rating of his career” — won’t stop him from ignoring the public will:
Q: But is George W. Bush still relevant? … He hasn’t had majority support in three years. He laughed off my question about that.
BUSH: So what am I supposed to do? Go in the fetal position because of your polls?
Watch it:
[flv http://video.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/bushfetal3.320.240.flv]
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“Are you under the insane impression that the American people mean anything to me?”
January 16th, 2008 at 9:57 am*shakes head*
Leader of the Free World
January 16th, 2008 at 9:58 amOn is BushWorld is war peace.
January 16th, 2008 at 9:59 amYes, as a matter of fact you should. Be sure to sign your resignation letter first.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:01 amThat’s a rhetorical question mr. bush.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:02 amno, you should walk to the gallows and let gravity take its course.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:02 amW. is prime specimen of a living abortion.
Daddy(H.W.) sez: “I should have pulled out.”
January 16th, 2008 at 10:02 amNow, that would be a good reason for an abortion!
January 16th, 2008 at 10:02 amYou’d be no less productive, to be sure. Go ahead and do it under your desk, maybe you’ll finally find those WMD there that you so brazenly joked to you “base” about..all these deaths later.
Base indeed.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:02 amreply: “…no, you can just go away…like far away or something…”
January 16th, 2008 at 10:03 amWhat an odd response.
1/20/09 can’t come soon enough.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:04 amI hate W as much as the next straight thinking citizen. But when did it become OK to turn an interview with the President of the United States into a run of the mill news magazine heavily edited hit job. Serious journalists should be treating interviews with President Bush as serious business, perhaps even more so than ever before. That clip absolutely sickens me. It’s painfully obvious the press has no ability to deliver intelligent content and that potentially weakens the country more so than all the damage Bush has done.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:04 amI hate W as much as the next straight thinking citizen. But when did it become OK to turn an interview with the President of the United States into a run of the mill news magazine heavily edited hit job. Serious journalists should be treating interviews with President Bush as serious business, perhaps even more so than ever before. That clip absolutely sickens me. It’s painfully obvious the press has no ability to deliver intelligent content and that potentially weakens the country more so than all the damage Bush has done.
Comment by bhal123 — January 16, 2008 @ 10:04 am
it became ok when bush & his treason reared its ugly heads!
January 16th, 2008 at 10:05 amWhat an arrogant moron.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:06 amThis country is in “deep sh_t Arkansas…”
January 16th, 2008 at 10:07 am“your” polls?
asswipe, they are your polls.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:08 amYEAH!! These colors don’t go into the fetal position!!
January 16th, 2008 at 10:09 amhttp://www.tshirtinsurgency.com
It’s painfully obvious the press has no ability to deliver intelligent content and that potentially weakens the country more so than all the damage Bush has done.
Comment by bhal123 — January 16, 2008 @ 10:04 am
I think they’re both even.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:11 amNo journalist, serious or not is asking Bush the right questions. Somehow it is taboo to embarass the sitting pResident to explain his role in the Plame affair, the lies about WMD, the linking of Sadam to 9/11, why Executive Privelege in Tillman’s death, promotion of torture……..
This simian deserves all the hate and scorn that the world throws at him. Maybe, just maybe, he will feel some shame for his actions. He is criminal and shameful.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:17 amKeep it up, GDumbya. You are making yourself more and more irrelevant every day.
The weak field of Republican candidates are weakened even further by the lack of an effective president and party leader. Next January, the adults will once again take charge and GDumbya’s presiDuncy will fade quickly as the worst in our nation’s history.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:18 amGeorge talking about a fetal position brings to mind a picture of Barbara giving birth to him. Icky, Icky.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:18 amif Laura catches him boozing again he might wanna consider it
What could possibly make you think that he ever stopped boozing?
January 16th, 2008 at 10:19 amI guess instead of a President you could just have Rasmussen poll for every decision that comes up.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 16, 2008 @ 10:18 am
perfect poll to quote for a koolaid-chugger like you, since it’s the only one favorable to this loser-in-chief. I guess every president should lie through his teeth throughout his term, and ignore what the vast majority of the American people want. It’s really far better to poll your billionaire, terrorist-funding Saudi buddies, and do their bidding, right, captainmoronic?
January 16th, 2008 at 10:21 amBUSH: So what am I supposed to do? Go in the fetal position because of your polls?
That was actually funny.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:23 am“I’m sure people view me as a warmonger. And I view myself as a peacemaker,†he declared.
Yeah, after billions and billions of dollars in weaponry sold to Israel and Saudi Arabia. You know, weapons = peace reinforcements.
Bush: Should I ‘go in fetal position because of polls?’
No, GDumbya. Don’t “go in a fetal position”.
Just go. Go to Paraguay. Go to Baghdad. Go to hell. Just go.
And don’t forget to take Darth Cheney with you.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:24 amI remember Jim Bakker in that polition when caught raping the public. What a nice ‘I don’t give a damn’ attitude.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:25 amQuit guessing Capt. go read the article. It’s chocked full of Bushy goodness that adds credence to the poll. Two quick notes from the article:
First, a stat on oil purchases. When Bush took office, the United States imported just about 53 percent of its oil. Today, that number stands at 60 percent.
Second, a quote from the man himself.
“If Americans are concerned about U.S. perceptions in the Middle East, the best way to defeat that perception is through opening up our colleges and universities,” he said. “And I believe we can make sure that, as best as we can, terrorists don’t come to our country, and at the same time, be more open.”
Care to explain what he’s saying here?
January 16th, 2008 at 10:26 amSociopaths are incapable of shame.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:28 amit became ok when bush & his treason reared its ugly heads!
Comment by Fan of Man — January 16, 2008 @ 10:05 am
You totally miss the point that it doesn’t hurt Bush or help the rest of us at all. And when you say things like that you also serve to make the automaton Republican voters more convinced that liberals are the problem.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:28 amBUSH: So what am I supposed to do? Go in the fetal position because of your polls?
No! You should assume the fetal position for your decision to bully another country, resulting in nearly 4000 deaths of our brave men and women (and Lord know who many others maimed)! You should lay down on the floor for your support of torture (waterboarding) and for your disregard for the poor (Katrina).
January 16th, 2008 at 10:29 amAnd by gawd, you should be on the floor, cowering and sucking your thumb, for ever thinking you could successfully run this country (like your predecessor). You have made this country a joke, sir. And that is unforgivable! No wonder the majority want change!
Get your blanket, lay on the floor, suck your thumb while Cheney misguides you, again.
Worst.
President.
Ever!
It’s a good thing that Republican leaders have not always bowed to the poll-it-ariat or the “will of the people†or we likely would have never abolished Slavery or passed the Civil Rights Acts, by way of example.
Comment by good_golly — January 16, 2008 @ 10:13 am
For once, Gigi, you’re right.
It’s just too bad that the Republican Party of those days is long, long gone.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:30 amBush:
“I’m sure people view me as a warmonger. And I view myself as a peacemaker,â€
Well, if he set out to build peace rather than make war, that’s just one more task at which he has failed. Put it on the list.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:32 amActually, as much as I hate to do it, I agree with Bush on this. Public opinion should not run the Whitehouse.
We NEED a president who will do the right thing without caving in when people don’t like it. We need him to run the country, not look for enough people to agree with him. He needs to make a good faith effort to explain his actions, then just go ahead and do it.
Unfortunately, Bush has been pretty much wrong in everything he’s done so far. Yes, we need a president who will do what he thinks is right regardless of what it does to his popularity, but the first thing he needs to be is right.
If Bush HAD been right, we would be praising him right now for exactly the thing we are condemning him for now. Perspective, people. Bush has done so many things wrong, but this is not one of those things. I believe in giving credit where credit is due, even if it’s just one crystal clear drop in an ocean of slime.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:33 amYou know, polls are just snap shots in time of public opinion. No president should be guided by the results of a poll or two. But that is not what we have here, is it? We have seen the steady erosion of confidence in the decision making ability and policies of this president over the years. We have seen a president with the highest possible poll ratings after 9/11, with the full support of his party and the Democrats, with the full support of our allies and with the full support of the world prove himself to be arrogant, incompetent and immoral. No one has any confidence in this fool but for less than a third of the nation. The last congressional election provided a clear message from the majority of the democracy that they do not support his policies. No, Mr President, I do not want you to crawl into a fetal position; I just want you gone.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:34 amEvery day this insane madman is in office is offensive to our health and well being, not to mention he and cheney’s threat’s to any peace in the world…We would be better served if abortion were retroactive and used by the people of the world instead of theses to nut bag’s in their war forever and for every country……Blessings
January 16th, 2008 at 10:37 amWhen Bush was appointed president in 2000, I figured he would have to compromise, afterall, he’d lost the popular vote and needed the Supreme Court to decide Florida in his favor. HE NEVER COMPROMISED. It was always, ‘my way or the highway’ – contrary to all precedent-based expectations. HE CHANGED THE PARADIGM. The leaders of the Democratic party are still trying to live under the old paradigm, and ITS NOT WORKING!
We’re in the majority now. Under his new paradigm, he’d be getting pummelled every day (if his impeachment trial were not yet complete) and he’d probably be curled in a fetal position. Since we haven’t switched paradigms, he’s strutting around as if he had a ‘mandate’ and we’re consistently weakening our positions, waiting for compromises he’s still not willing to make. Our leaders need to wake up!
January 16th, 2008 at 10:37 amlet me know when dubya gets home safe and sound…
it’s too soon to concede that i was wrong about this:
not that i’m wishing bad on the guy…
January 16th, 2008 at 10:37 amDo you really want someone governing by polls?
I guess instead of a President you could just have Rasmussen poll for every decision that comes up.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 16, 2008 @ 10:18 am
Come on, Cap’n, you can do better than this.
Please try to stay away from the righ-wing “false choice” doctrine. Or else document where ANYONE suggested governing by taking a poll “for every decision that comes up”.
Do you really need it explaned to you that in between the extremes of “ignoring the will of the people” (George W. Bush) and “taking a poll for every decisin that comes up” (Cap’n Mantastic’s Straw Man) there is an infinite variety of ways to discharge the duties of the office?
Not to mention… it’s another false equivalency between polls to measure APPROVAL ratings and polls to gauge public support for policies. More right-wing Apples to Oranges.
Like I said, Cap’n, you can do better.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:38 amWe NEED a president who will do the right thing without caving in when people don’t like it. We need him to run the country, not look for enough people to agree with him.
Comment by swordsbane
I strongly disagree. A public servant is devoted to public interests, otherwise he is not good at all. People put a President there (sometimes) and he must answer to the people…without exception.
NOW… and this is a big now… if people want to stone women, if people want to engage senseless wars, if people want to watch public executions on TV, if people want to harass other countries, etc… I think the President has to comply with that wish.
People have the governments they deserve in a democracy.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:38 am“Bow to the will of majority” ? Well, he likened himself to having a “mandate” with only 51%. So, he uses the polls when it is convenient to him. Never before has a President sold out America like this idiot. I swear the Manchurian candidate example has happened. Movies often portray real life.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:38 amNobody should govern by polls alone but if polls are the statistical voice of the population they shouldn’t be ignored. Bush’ continual denial of our voices will solidify his irrelavence.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:41 amOnly the good guys, fighting for the good of America have “things” like malfunctioning airplanes, crazed gunmen, have something happen to them, ever check the political leanings of those who die in icy wing conditions, count how many Dems versus Repubs have accidents.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:42 amIgnorant, arrogant, prideful, defiant, self-centered, contemptuous, and completely irrelevant.
BTW, the Republican party of old is no longer in existence, as noted in #34 by ralph. Now the party consists of Bible-thumping, greed and corruption and self-centered pandering.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:43 amJust as the old Democratic party is no longer around; the old segregationists became Dixiecrats, who morphed into neo-republicans.
Now the republicans desire war and profits which is clearly exhibited in Bush; democrats desire fairness.
BUSH: So what am I supposed to do? Go in the fetal position because of your polls?
- – - – -
Isn’t this how he responded to hurricane Katrina?
January 16th, 2008 at 10:43 amGood morning witch1 – I’ve missed you lately.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:45 am“I’m sure people view me as a warmonger. And I view myself as a peacemaker.”
Well, hell, I view *myself* as Gisele Bundchen, but that sure don’t make it true.
Oh, — and eat shit and die, Georgie, ya moron.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:46 amSomeone commented “unfortunately” everything Bush does turns out bad. That would mean he is trying to do something right but events turn out bad. It seems to me, he takes the opposite road on EVERY thing even when a group of his own experienced peers point out he is going wrong. Wouldn’t you begin to check the advice when it is wrong 10 out of 10 times.? Snow commented that bush listened to the wrong group, well hello 7 years and bush hasn’t learned?
January 16th, 2008 at 10:48 amAnnie, you’re hotter than Gisele Bundchen.
(I find sharp wit very sexy.)
January 16th, 2008 at 10:49 am(ot, but very funny)
the party of idiots:
The Michigan Republican Party mistakenly sent out a news release Tuesday night congratulating John McCain for winning the state’s GOP primary.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:49 amDeluded freak.
-GSD
January 16th, 2008 at 10:51 amswordsbane says: “Yes, we need a president who will do what he thinks is right regardless of what it does to his popularity, but the first thing he needs to be is right”. Sword misses the point that a president is only one person and what he “thinks” is not solely relevant, otherwise possible despotism. A president has a cabinet, numerous intelligence agencies and the world’s scholars at his disposal. Bush has not been right much at all. His ‘thinking’ has destroyed much that is good about America. You would think after at least 2003 that he would have awakened to his failed administration and become more inclusive of educated, knowledgeable and thoughtful people. Instead we got his ego and an entrenched mentality that has been disastrous for the U.S.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:52 amBUSH: So what am I supposed to do? Go in the fetal position because of your polls?
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Isn’t this how he responded to hurricane Katrina?
Comment by dim wit — January 16, 2008 @ 10:43 am
Sadly, he didn’t go into a fetal position; he just didn’t care that American bodies were floating in American streets.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:52 amDemocratic Nevada Caucus – Prediction Time!
The road to the White House now goes through Nevada because Saturday’s statewide caucuses will help to clarify presidential nomination races in both major parties.
Who do you predict will win the Nevada Presidential Caucus?
http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1551
.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:56 amIf he EVER faced the American public (and not a carefully screened collection of sycophants), the outpouring of fury would put him in a fetal position pretty quick. He’s not tried that since before his inaugural parade was pelted by eggs in 2001.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:56 amI wonder what America would think of another country coming here and enforcing each ethnic group to intermingle whether they want to or not. But then we all know democracy was not the goal bush was pushing it was diversion while Halliburton moved in for the oil.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:57 am51 – Why, thank you, Ralph!! I’m blushing! ;o) That’s the nicest compliment EVAH!
~ A
January 16th, 2008 at 10:59 amHe’s in a fecal position these days.
-GSD
January 16th, 2008 at 10:59 amswordsbane says: “Yes, we need a president who will do what he thinks is right regardless of what it does to his popularity, but the first thing he needs to be is rightâ€. Sword misses the point that a president is only one person and what he “thinks†is not solely relevant, otherwise possible despotism. A president has a cabinet, numerous intelligence agencies and the world’s scholars at his disposal. Bush has not been right much at all. His ‘thinking’ has destroyed much that is good about America. You would think after at least 2003 that he would have awakened to his failed administration and become more inclusive of educated, knowledgeable and thoughtful people. Instead we got his ego and an entrenched mentality that has been disastrous for the U.S.
Comment by gus smith — January 16, 2008 @ 10:52 am
Yes, but it’s because he’s wrong that people are saying he should listen to public opinion. If the changes he made to the government were for the better. Things would be different. People would be praising him for overcoming public opinion and “sticking to his guns” and “staying the course” and all that crap.
January 16th, 2008 at 11:01 amNo George — we don’t expect you to go into a fetal position. We expect you to do a decent job. We expect you to craft policy that serves ALL Americans and the best interests of this country as a whole, not just your oil buddies and campaign contributors. We expect you to be straight with us instead of lying, obfuscating, and hiding behind “executive privilege”. We expect that you respect the power of your office and not abuse it. We expect that you be a leader we are willing to trust and follow.
We don’t expect that you react in knee-jerk fashion to every poll that comes along. But we expect that when poll after poll after poll for months and years say that you are doing a crappy job, that you will pay attention.
January 16th, 2008 at 11:05 amDoublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.
January 16th, 2008 at 11:05 amGeorge Orwell
As of 1/15/08 – 64% say war not worth the cost, – bush disapproval rating at 66%, with 38 months of disapproval, 77% feel country headed in the wrong direction. Yes, lets just keep ignoring the polls what do they know, it is just the people paying my salary opinion.
January 16th, 2008 at 11:05 amIf you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
yet make allowance for their doubting too.
If you can ……..
Then you are a man , my son.
Or maybe you’re just delusional. I’ve never figured out the differecne.
January 16th, 2008 at 11:08 am#61 – That is the point bush doesn’t do anything that is good for this country. And he doesn’t have the intelligence to change course when he can see his course is not working. Something has to be very wrong with bush’s mind.
January 16th, 2008 at 11:08 ami’ve thought that the same Dr. feelgood has been with both the president and doing Laura to keep her in line with all the little problems being married to a creepy little piece of flotsam that will become America’s 2000 century dictator. gawd nows she just want to be a librarian!
My feeling is that he has over medicated both the downers and uppers to George the King and until he pays attention again, we will see the fits like this and his rationale for bombing jewish camps in WW2.
I figure that Dr Feelgood gets placed back in a closet on the third floor of the White House until somebody figures that that the Royal Couple needs some medical attention.
It’s kind of cool though seeing this fool saying stupid stuff! It does my heart a world of good that if the elections are copasetic, then Democratics will control the roost again.
January 16th, 2008 at 11:08 amComment by missmolly — January 16, 2008 @ 11:05 am
(Ralph stands and cheers)
January 16th, 2008 at 11:15 amLooks like Polls these days are Bush’s biggest enemy. That’s an enemy he cannot bomb…!!
January 16th, 2008 at 11:15 am“I’m sure people view me as a warmonger. I view myself as a peacemaker.”
What you say is meaningless if your actions tell a different story.
There was this German fellow who invaded all of Europe but frequently spoke of safeguarding peace and protecting his country while blaming the war on the countries he attacked and occupied
January 16th, 2008 at 11:16 am62 – MissMolly….in my fantasy world, that’s how it is.
Unfortunately, reality has given us George W. Bush, the chimp who would be king. *sigh*
January 16th, 2008 at 11:17 amOne could say the nitwit is making fun of alzheimers victims with this comment.
January 16th, 2008 at 11:18 amFetal position?
How about Fetal Administration?
And why, by the way, is it OK to modify plants & animals at the genetic level but not the embyronic?
Anyone?
January 16th, 2008 at 11:21 am#61 – That is the point bush doesn’t do anything that is good for this country. And he doesn’t have the intelligence to change course when he can see his course is not working. Something has to be very wrong with bush’s mind.
Comment by texaslady — January 16, 2008 @ 11:08 am
Well that depends on what you mean by ‘wrong’ To do what Bush has done, you have to be greedy, without a conscience, clever (the evil kind), and have a thick skin. To some degree ALL politicians have those traits. He’s just the first one with the guts to actually go against the constitution to get what he wants. Looked at that way, he’s won. He got two terms, he’s not in prison (and it doesn’t look like he ever will be) and he and his friends got filthy rich. So what does he have to worry about public opinion for?
On the other hand, he could just be stupid and lucky.
And the American Public elected him. Oh I know he rigged the second election, but if the people who really DID vote for him had two brain cells between them, all the rigging in the world wouldn’t have kept him in the Whitehouse. That’s got to rank up there with our least proud moment as a country.
What get’s my attention is not that he’s got more than two-thirds of the country against him, but that he’s still got almost a third that think he’s doing a good job. Do you know how many millions that is? And they’re all in this country…. free to walk the streets…
January 16th, 2008 at 11:21 amThe thing about bush’s comments along with his family and supporters they don’t even realize how horrible they sound. Laura’s comment about they hurt more than others at the casualty numbers in Iraq, Tony Snow that casualties are only a “number”. Barb and her body bags hurting her beautiful mind. Good grief how could anyone still be supporting this bunch? Surely America is better than this small elite group who live in another world.
January 16th, 2008 at 11:24 amToo add to my post:
January 16th, 2008 at 11:29 amMaybe Bush could assume the hands and knees position, and receive what he’s been doing to the US citizens (and the world) for the last 7 years!
War is Peace
January 16th, 2008 at 11:31 amFreedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
I swear the best part of that boy ran down my leg…
January 16th, 2008 at 11:33 amIt is very frightening that 32% still support bush and most of that group have money, power and are corrupt enough to use that power to shape the economy which ever way benefits them.
2004 was an eye opening into the world of the powerful, Howard Dean people’s choice suddenly out, because of a yell (?) Kerry who limped all through the campaign, swearing to challenge a suspicious vote count but didn’t. Kerry was a poor choice but people still wanted him more than bush. But kerry never even questioned Ohio. Kerry who is left with $8,000,000 campaign donations.
Anyone else wonder about power deals made over a dinner of Kobi steaks?
January 16th, 2008 at 11:35 am“Polls are facts, see? And facts don’t matter to the decider, see? I’m the decider, that means I git ta decide what is real and what ain’t real . Hehehehehehe”.
January 16th, 2008 at 11:37 amIt will be interesting to hear what Kucinich finds about the 80% of votes not even counted in the NH primary. The count starts tomorrow. How can a vote be called with only 20% of votes counted? We need to thank Kucinich for at least checking the accuracy of a vote before November.
January 16th, 2008 at 11:43 amI really DON’T want this thread to turn into a food fight over religion again, but Bush and his 25%ers are exhibiting faith based behavior. They are convinced that their way is the right way, maybe because of Bush’s initial Divine Guidance to invade Iraq, and there is absolutely no outcome, no poll, no reality that will shake their viewpoint.
It’s useless and frustrating to even have a discussion with these people. The more you demonstrate how wrong they are, the more persecuted they claim to be and entrench further. Resolute is their word for this stupid stubbornness.
January 16th, 2008 at 11:44 amBUSH: “So what am I supposed to do? Go in the fetal position because of your polls?”
no, just go away.
January 16th, 2008 at 11:47 ami will go into the fecal position atop your grave, you sob!
I’ve no problem, on the face of it, with a President who ignores opinion polls based on his popularity. After all, what matters is his performance, and sometimes leaders will make unpopular decisions what he believes are for the good of the nation.
But here’s where THIS A-HOLE we’re supposed to call Mr. President comes in.
He hasn’t made ANY decisions that are for the good of the nation. And depending on the day (do I think he’s more criminally evil today? Or do I think he’s more hopelessly stupid today?) I don’t think HE thinks he’s made decisions that are for the good of the nation. I think HE thinks as long as the rich get richer, everything else will work out. A life born of privilege, with no concept of responsibility has given us this Ivy League-legacy eff-the-people President who, for reasons that confound me, still generates good will amongst about a third of the American people.
Why? What is it with you 32 percent-ers? Is it because he claims to share your views on religion? On abortion? Do you just have such a knee-jerk hate of liberal policies and/or politicians you’re willing to cozy up to the bar stool with the first fool who’ll talk trash about the Clintons, too?
Look, there are some big-tent ideas in the Republican party we can ALL get behind within reason. Strong military? Well, Shee-it, son, every liberal wants a good strong military, we’re ALL a bunch of cowards who won’t go to war after all (/snark). We just want that military to be used properly, sent to war when the reason is just and the mission is clear. THIS President doesn’t. Ask any one who comes back from Iraq less than whole. Or, barring that, their widows or grieving family members.
Lower taxes? Well, ho-damn, boy, *I’M* a liberal and *I* want more money in my pocket, too. But I’m also aware that my taxes go to things that are important to the well-being of this country I love so much, from the military and law enforcement to schools and libraries and roads and cleaning up enivornmental messes and giving poor children a meal and some clothes and my retirement, things that inevitably improve ALL our standars of living. What *I* want is that money to be spent efficiently, cut out fat where it exists, and make sure everyone pays their fair share. THIS President does not, giving tax cuts to his wealthy buddies during a time of war, cutting funds to essential programs while throwing plenty of cash to programs that prove not to work (NCLB, abstinence-only sex ed).
He’s not a responsible leader to the military, and he’s not a responsible leader to the general population. He’s only providing to the people who need his help the least (need his help not at all, really). And the Republican leaders who want his job are basically promising more of the same, more tax cuts for the wealthy, more wasted years money & lives in Iraq, more pandering to only the most extreme members of the Right who want to rewrite the Constitution to make it more “Christian” (and HERE’S hoping your concept of what is more Christian is the same as their, otherwise YOU might get screwed one day, kiddo)
At what point do reasonable responsible Republicans (no snarking, I know they’re out there), realize that the Republican Party has abandoned them? That the Democratic party is more in line with their wants & needs for the nation than the party that abandoned them? And they, therefore, lose nothing by abandoning their party?
Come on in the water with us heathens, we promise not to make too big of a splash in your faces…well maybe just a little splash, just till Inauguration Day. You gotta admit, it’s time.
January 16th, 2008 at 11:49 ampeacemakers don’t start preemptive wars…
he should go into a fecal position, as he has clearly taken a dump on the country…
January 16th, 2008 at 11:52 amslappy magoo, that was well said. Thank you.
January 16th, 2008 at 11:56 amWell Nimrod has been in the FECAL position for his entire time in his STOLEN office.
Darn Pete, I’ve been waiting for 30 minutes to post that (was driving to work) and you beat me to it… 8-O
Buck Fush
January 16th, 2008 at 11:58 am#84 the 32% is exactly as you said, ultra monied, and believers that bush is a Christian. Strange that they don’t compare what bush has done with what their Bible says is Christian. And don’t forget many adults like someone in charge, that way they aren’t to blame. It scared me to death that I heard Huckabee proclaiming that the Constituition should be changed to reflect the Bible. I would not have believed this comment if I had not heard it. And since the Bible is someone’s interruptation, if others interrupt it differently who is the last word. How did this scarey man get on the ballot ?
January 16th, 2008 at 12:06 pmFrom the pained look on his face, he’s about to deliver another basket of goodies for Americans.
Either that or all that “intense personal diplomacy” made his butt sore.
January 16th, 2008 at 12:11 pmPeacemaker, ey?! Well done sir! If by peace you mean injustice, inequality, fascism, chaos and civil war. If only you had tried to be a warmonger, you could have stolen Gore’s Nobel Peace Price after stealing his presidency! Kennedy gets shot, Bush gets re-elected. What a great two-faced nation you are.
January 16th, 2008 at 12:29 pmWhat’s the point of talking when no one is listening.
January 16th, 2008 at 12:36 pmHe says he is going to “jawbone” with the Saudis to lower the price of oil. Watch out for $4 a gallon gas coming to a station near you.
January 16th, 2008 at 12:36 pm“Bush: Should I ‘go in fetal position because of polls?’”
LOL! and I certainly would like tickets to see that. No, George, I would like to see you outsource just like you outsourced the jobs, the taxpayers’ money, and this country.
January 16th, 2008 at 12:44 pmgood golly: “It’s a good thing that Republican leaders have not always bowed to the poll-it-ariat or the “will of the people†or we likely would have never abolished Slavery or passed the Civil Rights Acts, by way of example.”
First, let me point out that the Civil Rights Act was pushed by a Democratic President and passed by a Democratic-majority congress with liberal Republican help. And, as a result of this legislation, Southern Dems changed party affiliation to Republican in large numbers.
Second, I find it interesting that conservatives these days seem to have a habit of going back to a period in history when the Republican party was the PROGRESSIVE party when defending the party.
January 16th, 2008 at 12:50 pm“Jawboning” the Saudis means “we’re gonna bomb Iran, which will make you guys even richer when oil goes to $200/barrel”.
January 16th, 2008 at 12:53 pmRESIGN! GIVE YOYSELF IN! OR JUMP FROM THE AIR FORVE 1!!!! DO THE REST OF THE WORLD A FAVOR… JUMP!!!!!!
January 16th, 2008 at 12:53 pmRESIGN! GIVE YOYSELF IN! OR JUMP FROM THE AIR FORCE 1!!!! DO THE REST OF THE WORLD A FAVOR… JUMP!!!!!!
January 16th, 2008 at 12:54 pmCaptain Mantastic: “Do you really want someone governing by polls?”
This is a strawman argument. Nobody is suggesting that our representatives “govern by polls.” What I think representatives should do is be aware of public opinion and what the public wants because the public is supposed to be the “boss.” We live in a democratic representative republic. Our representatives are supposed to, in some measure, represent the will of their constituencies. The President is representative for the entire population. Polls are a statistical representation of public opinion. To completely ignore them is to be profoundly unaware of how our system is supposed to work or worse, to have no respect for how our system is supposed to work.
January 16th, 2008 at 12:55 pmRESIGN! GIVE YOURSELF IN! OR JUMP FROM THE AIR FORCE 1!!!! DO THE REST OF THE WORLD A FAVOR… JUMP!!!!!!
January 16th, 2008 at 12:55 pmtoo early for correct spelling…
He says he is going to “jawbone†with the Saudis to lower the price of oil. Watch out for $4 a gallon gas coming to a station near you.
Comment by Keith — January 16, 2008 @ 12:36 pm
You mean you don’t have any faith in Bush’s diplomacy skills?
Tuesday:
“President Bush on Monday launched a rare round of intensive personal diplomacy with Saudi King Abdullah aimed at winning support for a variety of American objectives”
Wednesday:
“Saudi Arabia’s oil minister says the kingdom will raise oil production only when the market justifies it.
The statement came in response to U.S. President George W. Bush’s request that OPEC countries increase output to reduce world oil prices.”
January 16th, 2008 at 12:58 pmAnd the forms that gave you your teachers back in the University where “only” ‘E’ grades. Not meaning anything important.
January 16th, 2008 at 12:58 pmAP reports that the Saudis have rejected his pathetic requests that they increase production. Evidently his “jawboning” hasn’t yielded results.
Bush supporters: if he can’t get results from his best friends in spite of saddling the American public with the bill for $20 billion in military aid, what the hell good is he?
January 16th, 2008 at 1:47 pmArn, you posted yesterday in lower caps and I believe got your posts recommended. The caps lock thing is really not an effective way to communicate, and you have some good things to offer when it’s not venting.
We hate the bastards as much as you, believe me.
January 16th, 2008 at 2:21 pmwith the jawbone of an ass.
comment by BARTLEBEE
Correction: Bush IS the ass.
January 16th, 2008 at 2:22 pmIt would be silly for Bush to assume the fetal position. It would be far more beneficial to Americans and the world if he would eat shit and die.
January 16th, 2008 at 2:32 pmnanlichi, thanks for the kind words…
texaslady, I think I only disagree with you on the idea that the 32% who still support Bush are “ultra monied.” I wouldn’t be surprise if most, if not all, consider themselves Christian, but this country would be in much better shape if nearly a third of us had money to burn. I suspect a lot of Bush supporters are blue collar and low-income but still swallow his “good Christian” BS hook, likne and sinker, PLUS believe liberals are the devil, so anyone who says what they want to hear is AOK in their book.
January 16th, 2008 at 2:42 pmBush could count the remainder of his landslide mandate ‘political capital’ on one finger.
January 16th, 2008 at 2:46 pmSlappy – who is getting rich from bush’s administration? Yes, some believers still get indignant that anyone say anything about “their” President. But after watching the chess game of 2004 moving players around, after reading who the big campaign contributors were, many from Texas sorry to say. It is all about money and who will make money from the guy in charge.
But the remainder of “his” believers scare the hell out of me as they stare entranced by Huckabee. They truly cannot see why there should be a separation of Church and State.
January 16th, 2008 at 3:29 pmI feel this election is already decided and we, the voters are just allowed to think we are doing the deciding.
Bush: Should I ‘go in fetal position because of polls?’
Well, yes.
January 16th, 2008 at 3:34 pmtexaslady, the real question is “who’s getting RICHER (not ‘rich’) from the Bush Administration?” I think we’re more in agreement than not, I’ just saying that Bush has plenty of poor people who support him because they believe him to be a good Christian man, despite evidence to the contrary. he talks the talk, so that group of supporters look the other way when he forgets how to walk the walk.
Like you, I suspect a lot of THAT level of Bushie is probably looking at Huckabee like the wedding scene from Tod Browning’s “Freaks.” “One of us/one of us/gooble gobble/ gooble gobble/ we accept you/ we accept you/ one of us/ one of us…”
January 16th, 2008 at 4:36 pmAP reports that the Saudis have rejected his pathetic requests that they increase production.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — January 16, 2008 @ 1:47 pm
Bush at one time also wanted to allow the market to control prices, instead of government involvement.
But that was before he halted deposits into the SPR in 2006:
I remind especially the Bush lovers here that this was a move that he refused to take in 2004 during his re-election campaign:
And, it was before he denounced the same move by Clinton in the 2000 election campaign:
Source for above quotes here.
January 16th, 2008 at 4:39 pmNo, but maybe you might consider Ron Jeremy’s version of the fetal position
January 16th, 2008 at 5:13 pmWhere is that cake I’m supposed to be eating?
January 16th, 2008 at 9:55 pmMake that “FECAL position.”
January 17th, 2008 at 1:06 amApologies to Pete Bogs @ 85. Great minds, Pete.
January 17th, 2008 at 1:12 amThe Saudi’s do not control the price of oil, we do, speculative trading in futures on the NY Mercantile exchange that can influenced by the Plunge Potection Team at any time. If the price of oil drops, it is because we dropped it. Probably he just wants to give the Saudi’s a heads up on the coming drop and promised him something in return, or he is setting them up as bad guys if they choose to spike it to 135 USD.
January 17th, 2008 at 2:16 amIf my poll is inevetable, just sit back and enjoy it W.
January 17th, 2008 at 4:36 pmBush already in FECAL position. Way past time to flush.
January 17th, 2008 at 7:04 pm