Comments on: McConnell backtracks on waterboarding. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:39:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Max-1 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4232901 Max-1 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:24:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/#comment-4232901 . I would like to see Mike McConnell argue why the Third and Fourth Geneva Conventions aren't legitimate and don't apply to the U.S.A. I would then like to see him issue an apology to the Japanese Government and the victims of the U.S. prosecution for waterbording. And lastly, but most certainly NOT least, he should show solidarity and allegiance to supporting the troops and issue an apology and reversal of the court-martial of a U.S. serviceman during Vietnam. . .

I would like to see Mike McConnell argue why the Third and Fourth Geneva Conventions aren’t legitimate and don’t apply to the U.S.A.

I would then like to see him issue an apology to the Japanese Government and the victims of the U.S. prosecution for waterbording.

And lastly, but most certainly NOT least, he should show solidarity and allegiance to supporting the troops and issue an apology and reversal of the court-martial of a U.S. serviceman during Vietnam.

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]]> By: gharlane http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4232223 gharlane Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:41:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/#comment-4232223 <em>Let’s waterboard the whole damn bunch and be done with it! Pay-per-view anyone?</em> For that, I would get cable. Cheney first. Just in case his ticker goes out while he's waiting and/or watching the others. Although... maybe we should just send him to Syria, like he did to that poor guy Maher Arar, and let 'em work him over for, oh, a few months, or as long as his ticker holds out. Let’s waterboard the whole damn bunch and be done with it!

Pay-per-view anyone?

For that, I would get cable.

Cheney first. Just in case his ticker goes out while he’s waiting and/or watching the others.

Although… maybe we should just send him to Syria, like he did to that poor guy Maher Arar, and let ‘em work him over for, oh, a few months, or as long as his ticker holds out.

]]> By: theswan http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4231618 theswan Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:46:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/#comment-4231618 Don't stop pouring when you get Mike inverted. Don’t stop pouring when you get Mike inverted.

]]> By: shoeless http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4231470 shoeless Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:40:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/#comment-4231470 <em>If this practice is not illegal, it looks like reparations for a few Japanese war criminals are in order. Equal protection under the law, and all that. Comment by Marcus Aurelius</em> Too late for reparations. We executed them in 1948. If this practice is not illegal, it looks like reparations for a few Japanese war criminals are in order.

Equal protection under the law, and all that.

Comment by Marcus Aurelius

Too late for reparations. We executed them in 1948.

]]> By: missmolly http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4231441 missmolly Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:01:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/#comment-4231441 Is anybody else here curious about this "saved lives" part? How many lives? Which lives? How certain is it these lives would have been lost with no other recourse for salvation if not for these "enhanced interrogation techniques"? Without some hard evidence, it's just so much blather. I would think that the waterboarding enthusiasts would want to bolster their case by parading somebody whose life had been saved as a direct result of waterboarding -- that is, if they had an actual case to parade. Is anybody else here curious about this “saved lives” part? How many lives? Which lives? How certain is it these lives would have been lost with no other recourse for salvation if not for these “enhanced interrogation techniques”?

Without some hard evidence, it’s just so much blather. I would think that the waterboarding enthusiasts would want to bolster their case by parading somebody whose life had been saved as a direct result of waterboarding — that is, if they had an actual case to parade.

]]> By: Peter C http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4231439 Peter C Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:51:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/#comment-4231439 Keep talking, Mitch, keep talking. Keep talking, Mitch, keep talking.

]]> By: Purple Girl http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4231433 Purple Girl Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:34:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/#comment-4231433 Of course he did they informed him how many politicians would be brought up on War Crimes by US . This was determined to be Torture DECADES AGO. We'd not only have to Indict the Executive branch, but both Houses of Congress with special emphasis on Particual Committes- Armed Services (Hillary) Just hand Her the Crown Already. That must have been a hellava Luch she had with W.- what was the afterluch drink laced with-opium or Delsuions of Grandeur? This Ol' Bill supporter is seeing the unfortunate hand writing on the wall- You're getting her whether you like it or not. Man they had me!! HINDSIGHTS IS 20/20. Of course he did they informed him how many politicians would be brought up on War Crimes by US .
This was determined to be Torture DECADES AGO. We’d not only have to Indict the Executive branch, but both Houses of Congress with special emphasis on Particual Committes- Armed Services (Hillary)
Just hand Her the Crown Already. That must have been a hellava Luch she had with W.- what was the afterluch drink laced with-opium or Delsuions of Grandeur?
This Ol’ Bill supporter is seeing the unfortunate hand writing on the wall- You’re getting her whether you like it or not. Man they had me!! HINDSIGHTS IS 20/20.

]]> By: Kay http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4231428 Kay Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:08:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/#comment-4231428 Let's waterboard the whole damn bunch and be done with it! Pay-per-view anyone? Let’s waterboard the whole damn bunch and be done with it!

Pay-per-view anyone?

]]> By: araratararat http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4231409 araratararat Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:47:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/#comment-4231409 Ba-deeb,.. ba-deeb,.. ba-deeb did I just call cheney/bu$h and his gang of bu$h-bots a pack of criminals of domestic and international laws ? Well they go to church every Sunday, pray to God daily, and are not, repeat are not - international criminals. My dicussions were directed to the administration of Bill Clinton. Now there is a pack of heathen criminal types. Ba-deeb,.. ba-deeb,.. ba-deeb did I just call cheney/bu$h and his gang of bu$h-bots a pack of criminals of domestic and international laws ?

Well they go to church every Sunday, pray to God daily, and are not, repeat are not – international criminals.

My dicussions were directed to the administration of Bill Clinton. Now there is a pack of heathen criminal types.

]]> By: Stupid Git http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4231399 Stupid Git Thu, 17 Jan 2008 06:44:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/#comment-4231399 Seriously, many of you mentioned it in the previous posts but that is one serious "about-face" - and it seems as if he were forced to memorize a cue card and told to never deviate from the exact wording. This guy definitely got a scolding for his previous remarks. Seriously, many of you mentioned it in the previous posts but that is one serious “about-face” – and it seems as if he were forced to memorize a cue card and told to never deviate from the exact wording. This guy definitely got a scolding for his previous remarks.

]]> By: Stupid Git http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4231397 Stupid Git Thu, 17 Jan 2008 06:40:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/#comment-4231397 <blockquote>If the deciding factor is “it works”, have we tried gang raping his three year old while he watches? That might work too. Comment by Abby — January 16, 2008 @ 9:45 pm</blockquote> You mean, to use <em>enhanced seduction technigues?</em>

If the deciding factor is “it works”, have we tried gang raping his three year old while he watches? That might work too.

Comment by Abby — January 16, 2008 @ 9:45 pm

You mean, to use enhanced seduction technigues?

]]> By: Stupid Git http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4231396 Stupid Git Thu, 17 Jan 2008 06:37:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/#comment-4231396 <blockquote>Republicans always have 2 stories. Comment by Guido OBGYN Lover — January 16, 2008 @ 8:21 pm</blockquote> One story for each face they have.

Republicans always have 2 stories.

Comment by Guido OBGYN Lover — January 16, 2008 @ 8:21 pm

One story for each face they have.

]]> By: gharlane http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4231394 gharlane Thu, 17 Jan 2008 06:33:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/#comment-4231394 As Andrew Sullivan has <a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/05/verschfte_verne.html" rel="nofollow">observed</a> in several different <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/andrew_sullivan/article2602564.ece" rel="nofollow">venues</a>, the term "enhanced interrogation" translates to "Verschärfte Vernehmung" in German, and is the exact term used by the Gestapo to describe Nazi torture techniques. Not that anyone in the US MSM would notice that, although the Times of London did. As Andrew Sullivan has observed in several different venues, the term “enhanced interrogation” translates to “Verschärfte Vernehmung” in German, and is the exact term used by the Gestapo to describe Nazi torture techniques.

Not that anyone in the US MSM would notice that, although the Times of London did.

]]> By: chimpeach http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4231364 chimpeach Thu, 17 Jan 2008 04:46:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/#comment-4231364 <em>“The United States does not engage in torture. We do use enhanced interrogation techniques. … It has saved lives. And so from my point of view, we’ve accomplished the mission within the bounds of U.S. law,” he said.</em> And, as he said it, his eyelids blinked in Morse code: "Help me. Help me. Help me..." “The United States does not engage in torture. We do use enhanced interrogation techniques. … It has saved lives. And so from my point of view, we’ve accomplished the mission within the bounds of U.S. law,” he said.

And, as he said it, his eyelids blinked in Morse code: “Help me. Help me. Help me…”

]]> By: wisedup http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4231320 wisedup Thu, 17 Jan 2008 02:56:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/#comment-4231320 Inhanced B.S....saves lives?????.....does that mean torture is better than death??????.....is he going to ask some DEAD people to back this up?....this man is real sick. Inhanced B.S….saves lives?????…..does that mean torture is better than death??????…..is he going to ask some DEAD people to back this up?….this man is real sick.

]]> By: Abby http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4231317 Abby Thu, 17 Jan 2008 02:45:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/#comment-4231317 If the deciding factor is "it works", have we tried gang raping his three year old while he watches? That might work too. If the deciding factor is “it works”, have we tried gang raping his three year old while he watches? That might work too.

]]> By: Nevar http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4231287 Nevar Thu, 17 Jan 2008 01:39:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/#comment-4231287 the door into that deep dank cellar. J. Edgar Hoover comes to mind. Comment by Merlin ...agreed, all those closets to look through... the door into that deep dank cellar. J. Edgar Hoover comes to mind.

Comment by Merlin

…agreed, all those closets to look through…

]]> By: Wayne http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4231281 Wayne Thu, 17 Jan 2008 01:29:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/#comment-4231281 Marcus - and we have to re-write the books on the Spanish Inquisition. The Roman Catholic Church was just using “enhanced interrogation techniques.” Comment by Briseadh na Faire — January 16, 2008 @ 7:48 pm And the Kamir Rouge, as well as many more. Damn, we will have to rewrite all the History books. Marcus – and we have to re-write the books on the Spanish Inquisition. The Roman Catholic Church was just using “enhanced interrogation techniques.”

Comment by Briseadh na Faire — January 16, 2008 @ 7:48 pm

And the Kamir Rouge, as well as many more.
Damn, we will have to rewrite all the History books.

]]> By: Wayne http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4231277 Wayne Thu, 17 Jan 2008 01:24:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/#comment-4231277 Republicans always have 2 stories. Comment by Guido OBGYN Lover — January 16, 2008 @ 8:21 pm At least 2 Sometimes quite a few more. Republicans always have 2 stories.

Comment by Guido OBGYN Lover — January 16, 2008 @ 8:21 pm

At least 2
Sometimes quite a few more.

]]> By: Merlin http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4231275 Merlin Thu, 17 Jan 2008 01:21:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/16/mcconnell-backtracks-on-waterboarding/#comment-4231275 Comment by Nevar — January 16, 2008 @ 8:14 pm <em>I wonder who owns him. He is the classic mouthpiece type, sweaty, whiny, shrill, so earnest he reeks for fear of his masters…….</em> Speculation abounds, but the real hands behind that ownership may take time to come out. Maybe years before someone like "deep throat" opens the door into that deep dank cellar. J. Edgar Hoover comes to mind. Comment by Nevar — January 16, 2008 @ 8:14 pm

I wonder who owns him. He is the classic mouthpiece type, sweaty, whiny, shrill, so earnest he reeks for fear of his masters…….

Speculation abounds, but the real hands behind that ownership may take time to come out. Maybe years before someone like “deep throat” opens the door into that deep dank cellar. J. Edgar Hoover comes to mind.

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