In an address to a group of state GOP executive directors at the Republican National Committee’s winter meeting, Karl Rove attacked that “the woman,” Hillary Clinton, for not releasing records of her time in the White House. This, according to Rove, “raises legitimate questions about what she’s hiding“:
And these doubts that she’s raising about her view on the issues has been augmented by her refusal to do what she and her husband could do, and that is release the documents that are hidden in that library about her role in the White House and her failure to say, ‘let’s get them out’ gives the American people a legitimate question about what she’s hiding.
As the subject of a contempt resolution for hiding documents, Rove is hardly one to talk. Just last month, the Senate Judiciary Committee voted 12-7 to approve a contempt citation against Rove for withholding information relating to the firing of U.S. attorneys:
The committee subpoenaed Rove and Bolten over the summer as part of its probe into the firing of nine U.S. attorneys last year. Bush, citing executive privilege, refused to allow Rove and Bolten to testify or turn over documents to the panel. Bolten was subpoenaed in his role as custodian of White House records, while Rove called to testify over his knowledge on the role politics played in the firings.
The Senate Judiciary Committee requested Rove’s public testimony on the firings of the prosecutors and issued subpoenas for internal White House e-mails, memos, and other related documents. White House counsel Fred Fielding said Rove “had been directed” by President Bush “not to produce any documents or to produce any testimony.”
Moreover, last April, an RNC lawyer revealed that at least four years’ worth of Rove e-mails are “missing.” Congress has sought — unsuccessfully — to recover the “lost” emails from Rove.
Why won’t Rove just say: “let’s get the documents out” and avoid legitimate questions about what he’s hiding?
UPDATE: Media Matters notes, “In a November 2 statement, Bruce Lindsey, the William J. Clinton Records representative, said that rather than prohibiting the release of communications between Bill and Hillary Clinton, in the 2002 letter, Bill Clinton had merely designated such communications as part of a ’subset’ of presidential records ‘that should be reviewed prior to release.’”
Karl who?
January 16th, 2008 at 6:29 pmRove is using projection to throw people off the track. Standard rethug technique. Accuse your opponent with what you are doing and force them on the defensive defending themselves.
Don’t discuss “facts”, or “issues” with Rethugs! Expose them for what they are doing instead! Hit them with the emotional tricks they are using.
Once the magician’s tricks are exposed he has nowhere to go and has nothing to say.
January 16th, 2008 at 6:33 pmRove is just a worthless lying election-stealing traitor…
January 16th, 2008 at 6:35 pmRover may be holding documents but the American people don’t have any questions about his role in the White House.
He was GDumbya’s brain. Just look how much more stupid GDumbya has gotten after Rover left his side.
And Rover was Thief-in-Chief. He stole elections and a number of other things like the independence of the courts and the non-partisanship of Federal agencies.
In Rover’s case, he should release the documents just so that we can confirm what we already know.
January 16th, 2008 at 6:35 pmI have be come, un-comfortably numb, with Republican hypocrisy.
The MSM never, ever calls them on it.
We are so fukced. (Fukc, I wish TP did not resort to censorship!)
What is worse, the Media who do not cover their hypocrisy, or the Republican populous who consistently falls for it?
January 16th, 2008 at 6:39 pmRove is just a worthless lying election-stealing traitor…
Comment by Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre — @ 6:35 pm
True, but the media (including tp) will report it, thereby giving him importance he doesn’t deserve.
January 16th, 2008 at 6:42 pmI suppose we should keep informed of Rove’s latest lies and hypocrisy, but it’s hard to take it day after day.
#6, it’s not censorship to ask people to refrain from using curse words or degrading language. It’s civility.
You can say everything you need to say without resorting to the type of language that undermines your message.
January 16th, 2008 at 6:44 pmHe’s just jealous of Hil’reh. He wishes he had a vagina.
January 16th, 2008 at 6:45 pm“Rove Chides Clinton For ‘Hiding’ Documents While He Refuses To Turn Over Documents To Senate ”
And this statement is coming from a criminal that is walking around with a get-out-of free-card: Tubby McTreason Rove. The WH wiped out the back-up system of missing millions of emails with McRove’s fingerprints all over them yet he can make remarks about Clinton “hiding” documents. The gang that can’t shoot straight are the new 21st century Watergate.
January 16th, 2008 at 6:47 pm#1: Karl who?
– - Indeed. I can sleep soundly tonight if we could just get Tom DeLay to weigh in too.
January 16th, 2008 at 6:47 pmRove is using projection to throw people off the track. Standard rethug technique. Accuse your opponent with what you are doing and force them on the defensive defending themselves.
Comment by Merlin — January 16, 2008 @ 6:33 pm
Damn, Merlin, you are spot-on today. This is EXACTLY what Rove is doing, and what he does habitually.
January 16th, 2008 at 6:50 pmThe guy never changes his playbook. You figure out what your own worst weakness is and you attack your opponent for that very thing. He’s done it over and over. That’s how you get an election where an AWOL coward is going against a decorated war hero and the war hero is the one who ends up having his service questioned. In fact, many of these neocons use the same strategy. How else would you explain Johah Goldberg’s absurd book trying to present a tortured argument that fascism is a liberal thing?
January 16th, 2008 at 6:52 pmRove is obviously scared of a woman.
January 16th, 2008 at 6:56 pmThe number of Republicans who so casually put their hypocrisy on display is astonishing.
January 16th, 2008 at 6:57 pmThey feel free to criticize others, tell them what to do, while they, themselves, are guilty! I note that he said this in a prepared address to the GOP — of course, they would not correct him because they are in the same club of hyporcites.
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January 16th, 2008 at 7:00 pmAs I noted in another thread today – it is the Frank Luntz playbook, which was modeled after Rove’s book.
caption:
Karl the Borg arrives for his annual implant battery change.
January 16th, 2008 at 7:01 pmFor Rove to dare mention ANYTHING about hiding documents, is, well, just ridiculous.
January 16th, 2008 at 7:02 pmRNC servers, anyone?
You’re right, Marie. Frank Luntz is one of the sleaziest, lowdown rats on the planet. That must be why you see him on cable television news so often.
January 16th, 2008 at 7:04 pmRove’s got to be sweating the next election. If the democrats gain seats in the senate, Joe Lieberman will be stripped of his committee chairmanships, and another dem will be appointed to his positions.
According to Wiki, republicans will have 20 seats to lose, while the democrats have only ten. While it’s true that many of the republican seats are safe, it wouln’t take much of a switch to change the power structure – and slowly cook Rove on a Senate rotisserrie.
January 16th, 2008 at 7:06 pmHillary and Bill have not refused to release the documents. They go through a process of review by the national archives. The Republicans never respond to this fact. Instead, they just make naked allegations of wrong doing. My response would be with the truth and a statement that the Republicans conducted numerous investigations of the WH which resulted in very little but a blue stained dress.
January 16th, 2008 at 7:06 pmIf Karl would be so kind as to identify what documents he specifically wants, I’m sure the Clintons would be happy to ask the Archivist to speed up.
But to echo JMOHR, release of ex-Presidential records is a review process, conducted on a schedule, by the National Archives. No one’s blocking anything.
And to top it off, if they really wanted to see the records, the Archivist is a Bush appointee. He could just truck himself down to Little Rock, rifle through whatever files he wanted to – and report back.
But he hasn’t. Because there isn’t anything “incriminating” there.
January 16th, 2008 at 7:11 pmFollowing up on my last post, if the democrats gain enough seats to oust Lieberman from his chairmanships, it will be because of a democratic electoral blowout in the Senate, and with a democratic president, even the staunchest wingnuts will have to concede that America has give the democrats a mandate for change – meaning a return to the days of rigorous congressional oversight.
January 16th, 2008 at 7:12 pmKarl Rove claims someone else is hiding documents
Larry Craig says Clinton is a dirty nasty boy
Dick Cheney accuses Vietnam Vet Murtha of not having the stomach for war\
Ted Haggert decrys homosexual behavior
George bush claims the terrists hate our freedoms
Anyone else see a pattern?
January 16th, 2008 at 7:18 pmAt what point will Rove become such a potential threat to rat out his patrons that they off him?
January 16th, 2008 at 7:20 pmHmm. Is hypocricy common in Washington, DC?
January 16th, 2008 at 7:23 pmDamnit, hypocrisy….
January 16th, 2008 at 7:23 pmIf I recall correctly. Governor “W” had all his papers put on pallets and shipped to his fathers library where they will be inaccessible to scrutiny. Correct me if this is incorrect.
January 16th, 2008 at 7:46 pmLook! Over there!
January 16th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
This is a pure Rove tactic. Throw out a distortion or and outright lie, the the Republican Noise Machine will be repeating it for the next month. From MSM, to the rabid trolls.
January 16th, 2008 at 7:50 pmIs anyone disinfecting his footsteps? Primordial scum that probably killed off the dinosaurs. Why isn’t he in jail with Abramoff or Bubba?
January 16th, 2008 at 7:57 pmAnd…why isn’t Rove in jail?
January 16th, 2008 at 8:07 pmRove likes to be the bottom boy.
January 16th, 2008 at 8:15 pm“…fat bottom boys, you make the Neo-Con world go ’round….”
January 16th, 2008 at 8:18 pmRove likes “hot Karls”.
January 16th, 2008 at 8:27 pmhey karl nice tie!
January 16th, 2008 at 8:29 pmwhomped the tar out of Rove and shoved his Bluetooth piece up his azz?
…and strapped him into a shopping cart and gave it a shove down the entrance ramp…..
January 16th, 2008 at 8:33 pmKKKarl and Jeff Gannon riding the pink pony down the chocolate trail.
January 16th, 2008 at 8:40 pmIt’s very odd that the Clintons refuse to release anything! If Hillary wants to pretend she is a take charge girl then she should by all means show us all what she has accomplished besides calming Bimbo Eruptions!
Comment by John Kerry — January 16, 2008 @ 8:51 pm
Part of the Noise Machine has received it’s new protocols and directives…..
January 16th, 2008 at 8:53 pmSeems to me that a guy with that weak of a chin’s got no bidness being THAT sure of himself.
January 16th, 2008 at 8:58 pmJust sayin’
Isn’t the obvious response here that Karl Rove isn’t running for president? And even still, do two wrongs make a right?
January 16th, 2008 at 9:33 pmRove should be dropped of in Iraq with nothing but his foul mouth to protect him.
January 16th, 2008 at 10:19 pmI don’t like Hillary. I don’t trust her. But, to the best of my knowledge, she hasn’t refused to turn over any documents in contempt of a subpoena.
Rove is a lying worm who should be jailed until he answers a whole bunch of questions. He may be the rottenest of a rotten bunch.
January 17th, 2008 at 12:02 amJB, you should be ashamed of yourself. How dare you consider foisting even MORE troubles onto the poor Iraqi people? Haven’t they suffered enough because of Rove? Rove’s foul mouth is more than enough defense. I think it’s been labelled as a “weapon of mass destruction” by the CIA.
January 17th, 2008 at 12:06 amHillary is as culpable as Carl. Both wanted us to bomb Iraqis.
January 17th, 2008 at 4:46 amIts a shame TP is just too slanted.
You never mentioned Hillary collected money from Mudroach, and the AIPAC, the same sponsors and models of Carl Rove.
Shame on everyone here.
If he’s coming out to make comments someone should ask him some hard questions about his old email. The media should not give him a free soap box.
January 17th, 2008 at 4:46 amPot, meet kettle.
Yes, I have some issues with Hillary keeping her records sealed. But it’s extremely offensive to have that attacked by someone who’s guilty of that to a much higher degree.
January 17th, 2008 at 8:00 amWell, looks like Jeff Gannon is not picking out KKKarl’s ties anymore.
January 17th, 2008 at 8:43 amTP truly is my favorite Hillary front group. You guys are truly priceless in your defense of the defensless.
January 17th, 2008 at 9:17 amthe mere mention of Rove and panic among the libs breaks out.
January 17th, 2008 at 9:54 amThis guy is about as anti Constitution as they get. He has lied, cheated, and will do anything to defeat Democrats. He claims to love America, but he clearly hates his fellow Americans. This win at any cost atttitude is turning this country into a political war zone. Rove and his racist narrow minded dirty tricks is the worst thing that ever happened to our country.
January 17th, 2008 at 12:05 pmDoes anyone know if Rove will be prosecuted for lying, obfuscating and illegally withholding documents, including the deletion of emails after the 4th Reich leaves office in January? Or is there some protection for scum to escape prosecution for crimes against the Constitution? Nothing would give more pleasure than to see MC Rove in chains shuffling the “perp” walk just ahead of Bolten, Doan and the rest of the criminal element. Please tell me we have trials to look forward to.
January 17th, 2008 at 12:21 pm