Gibson: If NYT ‘can’t take’ Kristol, what about al Qaeda?
By on Jan 17th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Gibson: If NYT ‘can’t take’ Kristol, what about al Qaeda?
In his column last week, New York Times Public Editor Clark Hoyt wrote that, in his opinion, it was “a mistake” to hire Weekly Standard editor William Kristol as a columnist because of his calls to prosecute the paper, but that it was not “the worst idea ever.” In his “My Word” segment yesterday, Fox News host John Gibson attacked Hoyt over the column, asking “if The Times can’t take an argument with Kristol, how can it face down Al Qaeda?” Watch it:
[flv http://video.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/GibsonNYTKristol.320.240.flv]
Gibson’s comment echoes what his boss, Roger Ailes, said in June about Democrats who declined to debate on Fox: “The candidates that can’t face Fox, can’t face Al Qaeda.” Newshounds has more.
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Will someone please clean the pureed applesauce from Gibson’s bib?
January 17th, 2008 at 3:55 pmAmerican’s don’t want to face Al-Qaeda. They just want to recruit mexican indigents to do it for them.
January 17th, 2008 at 3:57 pmThe New York Times is should hire Al Quaeda? Is that his point?
January 17th, 2008 at 3:58 pmTalk about wussess, didn’t Hannity go into hiding when Ron Paul supporters demanded accountability? And what about the big pussy, O’Reilly the little twit can’t take the heat when he’s confronted. Talk the talk but can’t walk the walk. CULEROS!
January 17th, 2008 at 4:00 pmIt is my “guess” that Hoyt wasn’t speaking in regard to Kristol’s politics as much as Kristol’s penchant for inaccuracy and idiocy?
January 17th, 2008 at 4:02 pmI like how there was absolutely no mention of the fact that Kristol misrepresented facts in his article and that’s why its a bad idea for him to be on the Times, not his ideology.
And yes, I think someone who makes things up to support his views shouldn’t be allowed a forum in the New York Times, We get enough of that with Bush.
January 17th, 2008 at 4:03 pmJohn Gibson attacked Hoyt over the column, asking “if The Times can’t take an argument with Kristol, how can it face down Al Qaeda?â€
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The clip sounds more like Kristol being claimed as FOX member, and FOX equating itself with Al-Queda.
January 17th, 2008 at 4:08 pmI wasn’t under the impression any newspaper was supposed to “face” al queda, just report on the group when it does something or tries to. You know, report the news. Facts. All that shit.
Which is why so many people have a problem with Kristol. he never met a fact he couldn’t ignore.
Of course, this argument is in relaiton to something JOHN GIBSON said, so it’s sort of like trying to explain to a diehard Hannah Montana fan why Kids Incorporated was so awful. Ain’t gonna get it, and wouldn’t care if he did.
January 17th, 2008 at 4:08 pmIt’s not that we can’t ‘face’ Kristol, it’s just that we can’t ’stomach’ him.
January 17th, 2008 at 4:09 pmSounds like a duel.
Rubber scimitars at twenty paces.
Abdul Al Qaeda vs NYT editorial board.
Fun, put it on reality TV.
January 17th, 2008 at 4:10 pmQuestion for discerning posters.
Who’s the biggest loser, Kristol or Gibson?
January 17th, 2008 at 4:12 pm“face down Al Qaeda” – yeah, that’s a good strategy.
sheesh!
January 17th, 2008 at 4:12 pmHow did the NYT make a mistake in hiring Bill Kristol? Did personel get the name spelling wrong and think they were hiring Billy Crystal the comedian? And then Kristol the asshat shows up?
January 17th, 2008 at 4:15 pmI didn’t know a newspaper was given the job of facing down “Al Quacker”.
January 17th, 2008 at 4:18 pmAre we depending on the NYT now to “face down Al Qaeda”?
Has Bush failed at the task so utterly that we need to turn to journalists to “face down Al Qaeda”?
Oy vey.
January 17th, 2008 at 4:19 pmdid a quick search on the NYT’s website and found 9,901 times the NYT has “taken” on AQ. kristol is an afterthought. And equating the smiling brownshirt to AQ is foolish on the pale one.
January 17th, 2008 at 4:19 pmDid personel get the name spelling wrong and think they were hiring Billy Crystal the comedian? And then Kristol the asshat shows up?
Now that would be a retraction that I’d LOVE to see. “We’re TERRIBLY SORRY, Mr. Kristol. Here are the forms for the unemployment office. So sorry about the mixup. Have a nice day!”
January 17th, 2008 at 4:19 pmQuestion for discerning posters.
Who’s the biggest loser, Kristol or Gibson?
Comment by RUCerious — January 17, 2008 @ 4:12 pm
Oh, come on, RUC! That’s unfair.
January 17th, 2008 at 4:20 pmBilly Krisco slips out turds the size of Gibson each morning…
Then he names them / Sean / Rush / Michael / George / Dick
Then he takes them to work and puts them in his articles.
Then he uses the articles to clean up the turds the next morning.
‘Keep your poop in a group’, that’s what Billy says…
January 17th, 2008 at 4:21 pm“The NYT is now responsible for taking on al Qaeda?”
Osama, prepare for one heckuva paper cut!
January 17th, 2008 at 4:24 pmAmerican’s don’t want to face Al-Qaeda. They just want to recruit mexican indigents to do it for them.
Comment by Tomas — January 17, 2008 @ 3:57 pm
they’re working the rezzes for volunteers pretty hard, too…natives always amaze me with their apparent enthusiasms for Murka’s military conflicts.
January 17th, 2008 at 4:25 pmIs this the thanks that the NY Times gets, for allowing Judith Miller to shill for Neocon/Zionists interests that helped build a (false) case for the Iraq war?
Is there no loyalty amongst Neocons?
January 17th, 2008 at 4:27 pmI guess it’s the NYT job to face down Al-Queda cus nobody in the freaking government that is the Bushy government wants to face them down.
By the way when you face down someone is that all you do? Cuz again I can think of FAUX news doing even doing that much.
January 17th, 2008 at 4:27 pmHey Powder, STFU.
January 17th, 2008 at 4:27 pmAl Qaeda should not even be issue. But they are since BushCo was more concerned with routing our govt treasury into their pockets instead of going after those responsible for 9-11.
January 17th, 2008 at 4:27 pmcorrection- be an issue.
January 17th, 2008 at 4:29 pmit’s nice to see FOX admit that Kristol is just AL Qaeda lite
January 17th, 2008 at 4:32 pmGibson, Kristol, etc…they’re all irrelevant …kinda like their inspiration..
January 17th, 2008 at 4:37 pmMakes no sense.
January 17th, 2008 at 4:48 pmThe NYT is now responsible for taking on al Qaeda? Huh? I’m not familiar with reich-wing “logicâ€; someone translate this rubbish.
Comment by Dr. Matt
Actually, that was Bush’s job. And it is a job at which he has failed miserably.
January 17th, 2008 at 4:50 pmI alQaeda vying for an op-ed column in a major newspaper? Maybe Kristol and they could duke it out in Times’ Square…..
No, I won’t apologize!
January 17th, 2008 at 4:50 pmDa-ryllllllll: “The truth will set you free.”
- – That hasn’t seemed to work for a lot of those poor bastids swept in post-9/11 hysteria in Gitmo.
January 17th, 2008 at 4:51 pmYou see how fox and others gets attention….gibson,Billo and all the exstremists,cnn has beck and radio has rush and others. Make a big noise, and get sheep to pay attention. Hipeisim is dieing finally,so switch them off and use your own brain.
January 17th, 2008 at 4:53 pmGibson +Vampite Kristol = Clown Network
January 17th, 2008 at 4:55 pm“Thou shall not bear false witnessâ€.
Comment by Daryll
If that is the case, both you and Kristol are going to be in a lot of trouble with the big guy because you both have a problem with the truth. You think you are a religious person, but I’m willing to bet that you will be going to hell and not to heaven when your miserable life ends.
January 17th, 2008 at 4:56 pmI guess you could use that line in any context and when would the NYT ever face al quaeda? This is just silly. Gibson is counting on Fox’s low IQ veiwers with this crap as they play the terrorist card again.
January 17th, 2008 at 5:01 pmFrom the ignorant blow-hard pictured above’s “column”:
“So what is so wrong with hearing a challenging voice at least once a week?
A splash of cold water in the face once a week not only won’t hurt, it might just help.”
Tell you what Gibson – how about your guys at faux schnooze trying that?! Let us know how it goes.
“If The Times can’t take an argument with Kristol, how can it face down Al Qaeda? Oh, that’s right — The Times would say Al Qaeda is not our job.”
Al Qaeda is the NYT’s job? How so exactly? That makes no sense at all.
“And there you have it. When it comes to newspapers, the Bush doctrine still rings true: You’re either for us or against us.”
Ah yes, you’re either with us or against us. As in toe the line everyone or else you’re a terrorist!!
January 17th, 2008 at 5:03 pmAl Mossad could stand up to Al Qaeda but it doesn’t fit their agenda.
January 17th, 2008 at 5:03 pmWhy does this guy still have a job? Gibson is big joke.
January 17th, 2008 at 5:08 pmIs it inevitable that one as “committed” as Daryll will become a self-parody?
Is the nature of faith-based contrarianism such that rgiorous pursuit of its principles will lead without fail to absurdity?
Or is it just Daryll?
January 17th, 2008 at 5:20 pmComment by Daryll — January 17, 2008 @ 5:24 pm
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It is a pretty simple question Daryll. Do I ship the shrimp, clams, oysters, and conch or don’t I? I fear for my future if I do not seek out and follow the will of God
January 17th, 2008 at 5:28 pmWhere is your outrage?
Comment by Dr. Matt — January 17, 2008 @ 5:33 pm
And where is your answer to the shellfish issue? You go half way around the world to save those in sin. I respect that. Will you not aid me in my time of need? If my soul is at risk over this I need to know. If it isn’t than the least you might offer is word that I am okay so as to ease my anxiety over this
January 17th, 2008 at 5:38 pmThere is nothing absurd about my comments. They are all based on God’s word. If you do not like it, get on your knees and try to challenge Jesus (trust me, you will lose).
Comment by Daryll — January 17, 2008 @ 5:24 pm
Sorry, daryll, but to those of us in the “Reality-based community” there is much about your comments that is absurd.
For instance, your prescription if I ‘do not like it” is to “get on your knees and try to challenge Jesus”. How does that make any sense?
January 17th, 2008 at 5:39 pmI know we’re all sacrificing in the GWOT, but is the NY Times doing any actual fighting against al-Qaida?
January 17th, 2008 at 5:46 pmOh, and by the way, Daryll; I was raised Christian and still believe in God. Just not the same God that you seem to, based on the way you describe Him.
January 17th, 2008 at 5:46 pmI know we’re all sacrificing in the GWOT, but is the NY Times doing any actual fighting against al-Qaida?
Comment by stewarjt — January 17, 2008 @ 5:46 pm
Well when I am done reading it I roll it up and beat people that I think look like they might be Muslim with it. Does that count? Since I can’t always tell, sometimes I end up hitting Sikhs and Jews, and Christians, and many others but hey, I figure I am just doing my part to keep me and my loved ones safe.
January 17th, 2008 at 5:52 pmWho says the Times can’t take an argument with Kristol?
January 17th, 2008 at 5:53 pmUm. Didn’t “pundits” like Bloody Bill serve AQ’s aims by selling the invasion of Iraq? I bet they use clips of him in recruiting videos.
January 17th, 2008 at 6:07 pmSo he thinks the NYT is supposed to take up arms against al qaeda?
January 17th, 2008 at 6:17 pmWhat is the point this moron is making?
He’s upset because his “golden boy” Kristol was dissed? — even though the NYT hired him?
The answer to Gibson’s question has been clear, for the past 5 yers – No the New York Times won’t take on al Qaeda. They, like Bush, were too gung ho to move on to Iraq.
You can look it up….
January 17th, 2008 at 6:46 pmLife is currently congested for this administration.
Comment by Daryll — January 17, 2008 @ 5:15 pm
Shrub’s thinking has been congested his whole miserable, privileged, phoney, unaccountable life.
Now that’s someone we can all admire.
January 17th, 2008 at 6:58 pmComment by Daryll (I’m guessing Daryll #2, not Daryll #1):
Libs, what is wrong with reporting the truth. Exodus 20:16 says, “Thou shall not bear false witnessâ€. They released Government Secrets, therefore, per Government guidelines, this paper should be prosecuted. Mr Kristol told the truth. He did not sugar coat his response. Liberals, deal with it. The truth will set you free.
Isn’t there some sort of Biblical injunction against willingly joining in with sinners? I thought Yahweh’s whole intention (with the Ten Commandments) was that His Chosen People (those who agreed to the covenant) would keep APART from those who engaged in bad behavior.
January 17th, 2008 at 7:19 pmBy your “logic”, Kristol’s due for some pretty harsh judgment from on high. (Remember the story of Ahab. He was a good Jew who suffered from indulging his wife’s “foreign god worshipping”.)
In his “My Word†segment yesterday, Fox News host John Gibson attacked Hoyt over the column, asking “if The Times can’t take an argument with Kristol, how can it face down Al Qaeda?â€
Just more evidence that morons like Gibson couldn’t piss out an original thought (no matter how stoopid the thought) if their drug test depended on it…..
Cheers,
January 17th, 2008 at 8:43 pm#5 Dr. Matt
The NYT is now responsible for taking on al Qaeda? Huh? I’m not familiar with reich-wing “logicâ€; someone translate this rubbish.
Of course. The College Republicans, Jonah “Doughy Pantload” Goldberg, and the rest of the 101st Fighting Keyboarders in the chickenhawk cadres sure aren’t doing the job…..
Cheers,
January 17th, 2008 at 8:46 pm#13 RUCerious:
Question for discerning posters.
Who’s the biggest loser, Kristol or Gibson?
Kind of like one of my favourite jokes:
Q). If you drop a banjo and an accordion from the top of the Empire State Building, which one will hit the ground first?
A). Who cares?
<*tah-dah-DAH*>
Cheers,
January 17th, 2008 at 8:50 pm#49 Daryll:
There is nothing absurd about my comments. They are all based on God’s word. If you do not like it, get on your knees and try to challenge Jesus (trust me, you will lose).
He speaks from experience. He tried it. He lost ……. to some imaginary Saviour-On-A-Stick…. Good thing we’re not counting on Daryll to protect us from al Qaeda.
Cheers,
January 17th, 2008 at 8:55 pm—-
Gibson: If NYT ‘can’t take’ Kristol, what about al Qaeda?
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No, I don’t think they can tolerate him either.
- Tom
January 17th, 2008 at 9:11 pmI just love the whole I speak of Truth and the Darylll asshat quotes the Bible. Yeah like that is the bastion of truth. Find One Fu(king quote or passage that has truth that is consistent with the other parts of the same book.
January 17th, 2008 at 9:20 pmThe truth will set you free.
Comment by Daryll — January 17, 2008 @ 4:44 pm
phew!!! – thanks daryll.
January 17th, 2008 at 10:56 pmbut don’t you mean “the truth shall set you free after you’ve been waterboarded?”
The GOP candidates have been on every network including CNN (Clinton News Network). Butt no not the dems… they only swing at softballs. The pussies
*bert
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Comment by BERT CONVY — January 17, 2008 @ 11:49 pm
and America is laughing at the dwarves the Repukes have put up as sacrificial lambs being led to the Dem slaughter. Dems don’t go on FOX becasue there is no news there. it’s a comedy station, and has nothing to do with real Americans.
January 18th, 2008 at 12:37 amWords fail me.
Again…
This is so offensive to New Yorkers; heck, all Americans that it just boggles the mind.
NYC is NOT supposed to face Al Kaida in any case – when that happens, that means that the government has FAILED AGAIN in protecting its citizens from external threat.
January 18th, 2008 at 12:39 amI propose that Faux News.com carry a syndicated, home page column by Markos of DailyKos. I have no doubt they’ll be very ameniable to this suggestion. After all, if the Faux dittoheads can’t handle Markos, how are they gonna handle al Qaeda?
January 18th, 2008 at 1:35 amWhen Gibson asks if NYT can take Al Qaida, Is he implying that he (Gibson) is Al Qaida and needs employment?
January 18th, 2008 at 4:39 amWhere would FOX news be if there were no Al Qaida?
January 18th, 2008 at 10:19 amAiles would bomb al Qaeda if he could, so I assume he’s inviting us to bomb Fox. It could only be an improvement.
January 19th, 2008 at 11:46 pm