O’Reilly Admits There Are 200K Homeless Vets, Still Says Edwards ‘Is A Liar’ Who Owes ‘An Apology’
O’Reilly Admits There Are 200K Homeless Vets, Still Says Edwards ‘Is A Liar’ Who Owes ‘An Apology’
Recently, Fox News host Bill O’Reilly attacked former senator John Edwards for noting the 200,000 homeless veterans who “go to sleep under bridges and on grates” every night. “The only thing sleeping under a bridge is that guy’s brain,” quipped O’Reilly. O’Reilly continued his attack earlier this week, claiming “They may be out there, but there’s not many of them out there.”
Last night, however, O’Reilly pulled an about-face, acknowledging to National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse President Joseph Califano that there are upwards of 200,000 homeless vets in America:
CALIFANO: We have 200,000 veterans who are homeless.
O’REILLY: Right.
Watch it:
O’Reilly admitted Edwards’ claim was right, but still refused to admit his own inaccuracies. He also continued to attack the former senator, calling him “a liar” and “a charlatan.” O’Reilly insisted that homelessness “has nothing to do with the economy” and is “mostly because of addiction and mental illness.”
“So if the poor are not destitute in America, and they obviously are not,” declared O’Reilly. “John Edwards owes us an apology.”
UPDATE: Robert Greenwald at Fox Attacks has more on O’Reilly’s war against “non-existent” homeless veterans.
UPDATE II: Crooks and Liars has more.
UPDATE III: Brandon Friedman writes “Bill O’Reilly just needs to go.”
Transcript:
O’REILLY: To hype up this class warfare, Edwards is now bringing in homeless veterans.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
EDWARDS: Tonight, across this country, 200,000 men and women who wear our uniform and can serve this country patriotically, veterans, will go to sleep under bridges and on grates.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
O’REILLY: Now I’ve said on this program that we will pay for homeless veterans to be taken to the Edwards mansion in North Carolina for shelter. Of course, that’s an immature remark, I know that, but there’s a reason I’m saying it. Certainly there are homeless veterans, but it’s not because of the economy. It’s mostly because of addiction and mental illness, something politicians can do little about. But if Edwards admits the truth, it takes away the class warfare issue, which is his only issue. […]
O’REILLY: Yet according to the government census, poor households in America have lots of stuff. 97 percent have a color TV, 78 percent a DVD player, 80 percent an air conditioner, 73 percent a car or truck, 63 percent cable or satellite TV, and 43 percent of poor households in the USA own the home they are living in.
So if the poor are not destitute in America, and they obviously are not, why are so many veterans sleeping under bridges, John Edwards? The answer again they’re mostly addicted or mentally ill. It has nothing to do with the economy.
Edwards is a charlatan, a man either too uninformed or too dishonest to be elected to anything. I am tired of hearing this nonsense from him and other callow politicians. We deal with facts here on The Factor, not fiction. John Edwards owes us an apology. […]
JOSEPH CALIFANO: We have 200,000 veterans who are homeless.
O’REILLY: Right. […]
O’REILLY: But this is wrong for a major presidential candidate to demagogue this issue and try to tell the people it’s America’s economic system that’s causing this problem, is a lie, it’s wrong, he should be called on it. […]
CALIFANO: This is not the only issue that happens to, Bill. Let me just say there’s enormous denial about this.
O’REILLY: I’m not in denial. I don’t think any…[…]
CALIFANO: I - well, they don’t want - they don’t to - they don’t recognize that substance abuse…
O’REILLY: They recognize.
CALIFANO: Drives all our social ills.
O’REILLY: Edwards knows this. He’s lying. He’s lying. He knows it. Everybody knows it.
CALIFANO: I don’t believe that John Edwards is lying.
O’REILLY: Then he’s dumb.
CALIFANO: No, he’s not.
O’REILLY: One or the other. […]
O’REILLY: But I hope you understand my anger. It’s an anger that if you want to solve the problem for the veterans, let’s be honest about it. Let’s not demagogue it like Edwards is doing.
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January 18th, 2008 at 3:50 pmAccording to Dictionary.com, “poor” is a synonym for “destitute”.
January 18th, 2008 at 3:55 pmO’Reilley has the mentallity of a TP troll.
Eventhough John Edwards is right, Edwards still needs to apologize to O’Reilly?
WTF?
January 18th, 2008 at 3:55 pmEvery time O’Reilley opens his mouth, turds fall out. Nothing new here…
January 18th, 2008 at 3:56 pmROTFL!!! OReilly is such a TYPICAL MORON! Ignore the FACTS, and everyone else that KNOWS THE FACTS are WRONG because you FEEL LIKE they’re WRONG!! ROTFL!!! What an HYSTERICAL ACT OF STUPIDITY!!!
January 18th, 2008 at 3:58 pmIt’s okay if 200,000 vets are homeless as long as they are addicted and/or mentally ill, too. Ain’t America grand?!
January 18th, 2008 at 3:58 pmFalafel Sexual Predator Pervert Bill 0(IQ) knows all about mental illness, don’t you Bill, sicko.
Edwards needs to kick you in the teeth is more like it.
Buck Fush
January 18th, 2008 at 3:58 pmAt least O’Reilly acknowledges that Edwards’ figure of homeless veterans was close to the mark, but he’s still missing the point that Edward was making.
Yes, many homeless people are substance addicted and/or have mental problems that preclude their being able to help themselves. But in O’Reilly’s mind, the mentally ill and the substance addicted don’t deserve any help, veterans or not. After all, if the mentally ill got that way by choice, we’re off the hook — right?
In every war we’ve fought, troops have come home suffering from shell shock, PTSD, and other mental disorders. Some can be helped, others eventually submit to the demons by committing suicide, and still others just try to survive with their fragmented brains the best they can — which often means turning to alcohol and drugs.
Edwards is pointing out that the people who have fought and put themselves in harm’s way for this country deserve better. He doesn’t own O’Reilly an apology. O’Reilly owes veterans an apology for dissing them in this way.
January 18th, 2008 at 4:00 pmO’Racist called Mr. Edwards “a liar”, “an idiot”, and “a charlatan”…..but, remember, O’Racist “doesn’t do smears”.
January 18th, 2008 at 4:01 pmbreaking; Fox has offered to house and feed them all. But only if they will vote republican
January 18th, 2008 at 4:01 pmLet’s not demagogue it like Edwards is doing.
Riiight. Because BillO hates a demagogue. . . that isn’t him.
And then there’s this statement of “fact”: So if the poor are not destitute in America, and they obviously are not,
How can you be poor and not be destitute? WTF is he talking about? And how can he equate “homeless” people with people whose homes have televisions, DVD players, etc? Hellllo? Is there anything in there, between those ears, Bill?
January 18th, 2008 at 4:03 pmEdwards scares the crap out of O’Reilly. He first denies there are that many homeless vets and then he moves the goal posts and claim the most of the homeless are drug addicts and mentally ill. and then jumps to the poor (without quantifying what “poor” means) touting all the material goods they have. BO ignores the fact of these homeless and how this country has turned it’s back on them.
January 18th, 2008 at 4:03 pmJanuary 18th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Falafel King ran out a real reporting. Memo to Olbermann: Give BillO the gold.
January 18th, 2008 at 4:06 pmEdwards is pointing out that the people who have fought and put themselves in harm’s way for this country deserve better. He doesn’t own O’Reilly an apology. O’Reilly owes veterans an apology for dissing them in this way.
Comment by missmolly — January 18, 2008 @ 4:00 pm
Well said, missmolly. I agree completely.
January 18th, 2008 at 4:06 pmJohn Edwards words from his website:
“Tonight, 200,000 brave veterans will be homeless, and they will sleep in shelters, on the streets, under bridges, and on grates – and Bill O’Reilly doesn’t think there is a problem. For someone who spends a lot of time shouting about patriotism, you would think he would be outraged by the treatment of our homeless veterans. How many more will it take before we wake up and solve this crisis?
“These are the facts. Today, one out of four of our nation’s homeless are veterans, and a recent federal government study found that a third of our homeless live in places ‘not meant for human habitation.’ This is a serious moral failing of our government and our nation. Our veterans have done everything we have asked of them and more, and it’s time we honor our sacred contract with them.
“While George Bush and Bill O’Reilly continue to ignore our homeless veterans, the American people, whether we are Democrats, Republicans, or Independents, must speak out and stand up for those who have stood up for us. We must do everything we can to solve this terrible problem – and we must begin by reaching out to these men and women who are suffering – not pretending they do not exist. After our veterans have served our country honorably, isn’t one homeless veteran one too many?”
Stick to the issue at hand BO.
January 18th, 2008 at 4:07 pmJohn Edwards doesn’t owe BO an apology. He might want to thank him because of all the airtime being devoted to Mr. Edwards and this worthy issue. But no apology.
January 18th, 2008 at 4:08 pmJOSEPH CALIFANO: We have 200,000 veterans who are homeless.
O’REILLY: Right. […]
THAT’s the extent of O’Lielly’s “acknowledgment”?
When a guest makes the statement, Bildo doesn’t dispute it this time?
Did he ever acknowledge that he was, y’know… WRONG when he said there were no near as many as 200,000 homeless veterans?
January 18th, 2008 at 4:09 pmit’s only a matter of time before this indignant sociopath attacks some sacred cow topic that will finally land him under the bridge himself.
i personally can’t wait….and if he thinks i am going to give him some spare change or the leftover meal that i have in my hand…forget it.
January 18th, 2008 at 4:09 pmOne would logically question whether a person so ignorant as O’Reilly was on the number of homeless veterans would also be extemely ignorant as to the cause of their being homeless. Apparently, those who follow O’Reilly would never be able to question his credibility no matter how far off he has been or how often he has been wrong.
I do not know all of the causes of homelessness. Maybe some was caused by the veteran’s inability to receive adequate care for mental conditions caused by military service. Maybe some was caused by simple bad luck. Maybe some was caused by previous crippling health care costs. Where do O’Reilly’s figures come from? An Enquiring mind would like to know.
January 18th, 2008 at 4:10 pmDidn’t Edwards drop out of the race already?
January 18th, 2008 at 4:11 pm#3 Comment by dim wit — January 18, 2008 @ 3:55 pm
O’Reilley has the mentallity of a TP troll.
How dare you suh! You are insulting our trolls!
January 18th, 2008 at 4:15 pmBrillo is a lying sack of shit. Give him an emergency enema-with a hand grenade.
January 18th, 2008 at 4:15 pmListening to O’Reilly describe the poor & their possessions. Doesn’t he realize that he’s describing his base? The majority of O’Reilly listeners are knuckle dragging morons living from paycheck to paycheck. So he’d better tread lightly when discussing them. I couldn’t listen to the rest of that video… he makes my teeth hurt and I want to punch someone afterwards.
January 18th, 2008 at 4:16 pmWe really need to come up with a strategy for getting these idiots off the air. There is really no reason we should have to suffer this sort of abuse year after year. The Right wing planned their imposition carefully. We need to come up with a plan to methodically take the microphones away and give them back their orange crates, so that only a few of us need hear their tripe at a time.
January 18th, 2008 at 4:19 pm#3 Comment by dim wit — January 18, 2008 @ 3:55 pm
O’Reilley has the mentallity of a TP troll.
How dare you suh! You are insulting our trolls!
Comment by Merlin — January 18, 2008 @ 4:15 pm
Have you ever MET Frank M? Or Southern Man?
January 18th, 2008 at 4:21 pmDidn’t Edwards drop out of the race already?
Comment by muckdog — January 18, 2008 @ 4:11 pm
Thanks for that incisive contribution, muckhead.
January 18th, 2008 at 4:21 pmO’Dildo has NO CREDIBILITY.
Except with aging right-wingers who will soon DROP DEAD.
January 18th, 2008 at 4:29 pmi forwarded the message from IAVA about all this to my dittohead-in-law… here is most of his reply… f.y.i. - he has a bumper sticker that reads: I Support President George W. Bush…
Thanks for the information about homeless and Bill O’s opinion. It don’t really make any difference how many homeless are veterans, or for that matter, college grads or airline pilots or whatever. The fact is that they are out there and society will not allow them to be helped. They used to be in the “Zone Centers†and the ACLU and politicians decided that you could not hold people in confinement against their will unless they were criminals: even if it was proven that they could not fend for themselves and were dangerous to themselves.
These people will remain on the street until society takes some responsible action. I don’t want them to be confined inhumanly but they do need some protection from themselves and the elements.
In our travels, [we] have seen many variations of these people all over the country, including in Juneau, Alaska. (It has to be hard to be homeless in Alaska.) I have talked to police officers in various places in the country and they say that most of these people are chronic alcoholics. They are not drunks because they are drunks; they are drunks because of some other underlying condition. Society does not care and will not take any responsibility for their care, because it would deprive them of their rights.
The original point of your message was the percentage of veterans that are street people. I am not sure what that has to do with anything. I am aware that the congress has grossly under funded the Veterans Administration budget and caused many social ills concerning veterans. Congress doesn’t give a damn. Veterans Affairs issues do not get money for pet projects in their congressional district and don’t get them reelected. That is what it is all about, pork and reelection. Stop the budget bleeding pet projects and institute term limits and it will eliminate a lot of problems.
Democrat or Republican, they are playing the same game. They want power to do something. Ask them what they want to do and they tell you, “save the worldâ€, “stop the warâ€, “tax the richâ€, “provide medical care for everyoneâ€. Ask for specifics and they say, “we have a planâ€, but you never hear the specifics of the plan. When I get phone calls about political donations or political opinion (which is usually a lead in to requesting more donations), I ask where the candidate stands on term limits and tax cuts. It usually gets real quiet on the other end.
Sorry to get so verbose, these people really piss me off. I am tired of the political games. These people are ruining this country for our grand children and great grand children, yours and mine. That is the real cost of all this irresponsible activity. I want a safe, free and economically stable place for my descendents to live.
delusion, thy face is republican…
i’m pretty sure this is representative of a majority of repugs…
“…society will not allow them to be helped…” huh???
real nice guy too… this stuff breaks my heart at times…
January 18th, 2008 at 4:36 pmi will never figure it out…
Didn’t Edwards drop out of the race already?
Comment by muckdog — January 18, 2008 @ 4:11 pm
Looks like somebody wandered into the wrong thread.
January 18th, 2008 at 4:36 pmO’Reilly is a mucking foron. Seems Edwards told the truth. Something O’Reilly wouldn’t know if it started vibrating uncontrollably.
January 18th, 2008 at 4:36 pmThis seems to be quite a trend lately. The wingnuts lie, then demand that liberals apologize for telling the truth.
January 18th, 2008 at 4:38 pmForTruth, you beat me to it, verfu(king batim.
January 18th, 2008 at 4:39 pmWhat a wank. O’Reilly has no idea what he’s talking about.
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January 18th, 2008 at 4:40 pmComment by ralph the wonder llama — January 18, 2008 @ 4:21 pm
Have you ever MET Frank M? Or Southern Man?
My good man. (harumph) I appreciate your invitation to meet these TP trolls, however it is too soon after lunch. How do you come to know them? Playing squash, perhaps?
January 18th, 2008 at 4:40 pmHave you ever MET Frank M? Or Southern Man?
Comment by ralph the wonder llama
No. I’ve never been to a mental institution.
January 18th, 2008 at 4:42 pmI think the French aristocracy talked down to the poor and homeless in 1780. It will breed revolution, maybe not with guillotine, but something 21th century akin to.
January 18th, 2008 at 4:44 pmThis kind of crap from the myopic, insensitive O’Reilly, is what thoughtful have come to expect.
I’d rather be living in France or Germany.
able as
Comment by katy — January 18, 2008 @ 4:36 pm
Thanks for sharing that… I think. Reading it made my stomach hurt. As you said, he is a nice guy! There seem to be a lot of very confused “nice guys and gals” out there.
January 18th, 2008 at 4:47 pmfyi - my reply:
i just though you might want to do something to help out…
IAVA is a good organization…
but if it makes you feel better to believe misinformation, well,
that sounds like a personal problem…
i can’t help that… and i’ve no intention of trying…
but it sure seems like you keep backing the wrong people,
the source of so much of the problem…
tax cuts??? for who??? you’ll never be THAT rich!
besides, how the hell do you plan to pay for your guy’s war, er, occupation???
term limits??? that’s what elections are for…
seniority and experience doesn’t count for anything with you???
those questions are rhetorical…
January 18th, 2008 at 4:48 pmthanks for the lecture… i know you mean well…
it’s just that i know better…
Edwards is wayyyyy cooler now that Bildo attacked him.
January 18th, 2008 at 4:49 pm#48 Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 18, 2008 @ 4:47 pm
That or hanging out at the local blood donor bank.
LOL!
January 18th, 2008 at 4:49 pmmerlin - it made me dizzy! so much spin…
January 18th, 2008 at 4:50 pmJust more “truth” from the Oh really factor.
He must rely on his audience being as stupid as he is.
January 18th, 2008 at 4:59 pmAs a sign of good character, O’Reilly has admitted that he was wrong.
NOW I AM WAITING FOR HIM TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH HIS PROMISE TO GO OUT THERE AND HELP THOSE PEOPLE!
January 18th, 2008 at 5:21 pmO’Reilly needs to admit he was wrong because their are 200k+ homeless vets. On the same hand Edwards needs to admit that our economy has little to nothing to do with that situation as the “poor” in this country are doing pretty damn good compaired to most any country in the world. There is no sane reason for anyone to be homeless in America.
January 18th, 2008 at 5:26 pmDidn’t Edwards drop out of the race already?
Comment by muckdog
Sorry troll, you are confusing Edwards with the MSM. The MSM dropped him out of the race right from the start. But Edwards is hanging in there and doing quite well in Nevada.
So how’s the race going on your side of the isle rightard? Who’s your anointed savior. According to the MSM it’s either Guiliani or McCain, both of whom will be very easy to beat.
January 18th, 2008 at 5:27 pmThere is no sane reason for anyone to be homeless in America.
Comment by Roger_Roger
You know, R’2 must be right. There’s no sane reason why someone who has lost his home, his car and his job should be homeless. At least that’s the case if he lives in England because in England the government will step in and find him a place to live, subsidized until he gets back on his feet.
I don’t usually wish ill on other people, but R’2 I wish that your job will be sent overseas, your wife will leave you and your car will be repossessed. Then come back here and we will talk.
January 18th, 2008 at 5:30 pm#55..here we go, Just as was going to invite O’liely and company to come and live in Yucca Mountian, ok…TP Trolls can come too.
January 18th, 2008 at 5:36 pmO’Reilly is still blaming the victim? He admits there are 200,000 homeless vets, but asserts that they are insane or addicts.
January 18th, 2008 at 5:38 pmBile OLielly. He’s so full of s**t, it comes out his mouth when he speaks.
RW Foamer Rulz:
1). “I’m right.”
2). “If I’m wrong, I’m still right.”
3). “Hell with facts. What I was talking about was the truth. And that’s more important.”
Cheers,
January 18th, 2008 at 5:43 pmI’m glad O’Racist exists. We get to see first hand the immorality, anger, and desperation of the reich-wing.
January 18th, 2008 at 5:48 pmIn the same hand Edwards needs to admit that our economy has little to nothing to do with that situation as the “poorâ€
Comment by Roger_Roger — January 18, 2008 @ 5:26 pm
Mr. Edwards never once said our piss poor economy was the reason for homeless vets. Don’t let facts stand in the way of your rant.
January 18th, 2008 at 5:50 pmWhere O’Reilly mentions class warfare, at least he’s got that right. Now, if he can just see the connection between homeless veterans and the economy. As I see it, with a volunteer army, lots of enlisted men are in the army because they don’t see a better alternative not necessarily because they deeply desire to roam around the desert dodging IEDs.
January 18th, 2008 at 6:08 pmThe key is these rat bastards have the big fookin megaphone. 24/7 this shite is broadcast over the air and cable and satellite, appealing to a malleable but ignorant percentage of the population. They could give a fook aboot whether O’Reilly’s lyin or no.
January 18th, 2008 at 6:11 pmRoger__Roger: The homeless rate in the United States is higher than in any other modern industrialized nation. The overall health results of citizens of the United States is poorer than that of any other industrialized nation. Yet we pay more per capita on health care than any other nation. The first thing that would benefit the welfare and well being of the people of this great nation would be the rounding up and execution of you and others of your ilk. The time is coming when it will happen. Look behind your back Roger. They are coming for your.
January 18th, 2008 at 6:15 pmas the “poor†in this country are doing pretty damn good compaired to most any country in the world.
Comment by Roger_Roger — January 18, 2008 @ 5:26 pm
Yea, sleeping under a bridge.
:|
What luxury.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 18, 2008 @ 5:47 pm
Based on his usual behavior Roger2 is long gone. However, this would be his response: “At least in this country we have bridges. They should be grateful!”
January 18th, 2008 at 6:16 pmThere is no sane reason for anyone to be homeless in America.
Comment by Roger_Roger — January 18, 2008 @ 5:26 pm
Tell that to reality. Once you wake from your pipe dreams.
January 18th, 2008 at 6:26 pm#65 Comment by BARTLEBEE — January 18, 2008 @ 5:58 pm
The new US Army slogan.
Be all you can panhandle.
LOL, again! you are sharp today!
January 18th, 2008 at 6:26 pm#62 Comment by Dr. Matt — January 18, 2008 @ 5:48 pm
I’m glad O’Racist exists. We get to see first hand the immorality, anger, and desperation of the reich-wing.
On the other hand, the fact that he and others are so prominently out front, shows how deep in the hole we are and how much we have to do to get out. This is truly one election that it would take a masochist to want to win. Bush has even been setting up Iraq so we will be stuck there forever. Sort of like burning the bridge so no one else can escape.
January 18th, 2008 at 6:35 pmIgnoring B.O. for a sec:
January 18th, 2008 at 6:44 pm“We have 200,000 veterans who are homeless.”
…
…
This is a National disgrace that must be addressed.
Edwards: “There are 200,000 homeless veterans.”
O’Lielly: “OK, OK, there are a bunch of homeless veterans, but John Edwards is a liar.”
WTF??!! Is there any doubt around here that their movement is over? They’ve got nothing. The vast majority know they’re a-holes. The difference between registered Dems and repubes has doubled or tripled to the largest margin in a generation. Independents lean toward Democratic policies by a 3-1 margin. Democratic turnout so far in primaries is double or triple that of Repubes…
Conservatives: IT’S OVER. GO HOME AND HAVE A GOOD, WET CRY!
January 18th, 2008 at 6:50 pmthat man is long gone to hong kong.
January 18th, 2008 at 7:11 pmhe slipped off the popsickle stick YEARS ago.
think anybody will notice?
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack
January 18th, 2008 at 7:13 pmEdwards may gain his rightfully due 1st place in the next caucus/primary over this issue. Then we can say thank you to O’Reilly for showing his true colors once again.
In the same hand Edwards needs to admit that our economy has little to nothing to do with that situation as the “poorâ€
Comment by Roger_Roger — January 18, 2008 @ 5:26 pm
Mr. Edwards never once said our piss poor economy was the reason for homeless vets. Don’t let facts stand in the way of your rant.
Comment by Dr. Matt — January 18, 2008 @ 5:50 pm
Dr. Matt,
Good catch! That was my take as well. Not once did Edwards blame the homelessness of vets on the economy. This is the way disingenuous blowhards like O’Lielly operate.: Misstate what others say to set up a straw man, then twist the facts to confuse “the folks”, as BO “watches out for you.” Someone should ask him if the vets are part of “the folks”, and with lies and distortions like this he is watching out for them.
January 18th, 2008 at 7:22 pmhad enough, I find it amazing that one of the national polls had Edwards at 27% in Nevada, within 2 points of Clinton and Obama, and television and print media completely ignored the poll.
Of the three frontrunners, Edwards is the one large corporations are the most afraid of. He’s the last one they want to see on the ticket. Everyone with any brains at all knows that his core message is right.
January 18th, 2008 at 7:22 pmO’Reilly challenges anyone who questions his statistics to show him the homeless vet who is watching a black and white TV under a bridge or in a tent city.
January 18th, 2008 at 7:28 pmPoor RogerRoger never met a fact he wasn’t willing to distort, or a lie he wasn’t willing to tell if his PARTY told him too! Such NICE little BROWN SHIRT there Jr.Adolph/Roger!! ROTFL!!!
January 18th, 2008 at 7:29 pmThere is no sane reason for anyone to be homeless in America.
Comment by Roger_Roger —
January 18th, 2008 at 7:31 pmIt became a huge reality after Reagan took office. I wonder why that is…? I don’t believe the word homeless was even used until then… before that they were called hobos and hobos did not include families. Along with that horrific problem was the birth of for profit health care… began under Reagan of course. Only in America, under republican rule do we have homeless vets, homeless families, 18,000 of the working class dying each year from lack of health care…
For these reasons one has to be a complete heartless idiot to not vote straight ticket democratic in the next election.
If we truly lived in a meritocracy, O’reiley would be living under a bridge. Even if you accept his own reasons for homelessness of mental illness, he should still be living under abridge. He certainly deserves to live off garbage scavenged from dumpsters. Better yet, just drop dead Bill.
January 18th, 2008 at 7:38 pmComment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper
January 18th, 2008 at 7:39 pmIt is sad to see the corporate MSM control/manipulate the primaries for their corporate interest.
If enough can and will see this, Edwards may become the nominee.
It is amazing how so many Republican and conservatives always want to talk about how well our poor compare to those in Mexico, Brazil or third world countries. The fact that our poor do not do well as compared to other modern, industrialized countries never phase them.
The US Air Force and private industry spent a fair amount of dollars training me in quality processes. Strange since I was an attorney by profession. However, it was foreward looking government agency and aerospace firm that recognized that quality principles applied to administrative and managment processes as well as to manufacturing. The concept is called “best-in-class.” You look at those who have the best record, determine the factors driving their success and either adopt them or improve upon them.
The same applies to social programs. When you limit yourself to not having our poor as bad off as those in the Sudan, then you will never be successful. In the long run, as seems to be the case in the US, the economy will suffer as the poor become a bigger economic drag. It takes a certain amount of income equality to drive any economy by providing robust local demand and production.
January 18th, 2008 at 7:40 pmMr. Edwards never once said our piss poor economy was the reason for homeless vets. Don’t let facts stand in the way of your rant.
Comment by Dr. Matt — January 18, 2008 @ 5:50 pm
I caught Edward’s town hall on CSpan the other day ( CSPAN is the only place you can actually hear what democratic candidates, other than ObaHillary is saying ).
I like what he says. I really like his position and I understand why the media has been marginalizing him along with the other Democratic candidates. I may just vote for him, since he has more of a chance to break through the MSM election fixing barrier and actually winning than Kucinich does, unfortunately.
January 18th, 2008 at 7:42 pmO’Reilly insisted that homelessness “has nothing to do with the economy†and is “mostly because of addiction and mental illness.â€
I always knew that O’Lielly was an unequalled imbecile , but this line of thought is completely insane….
A lot of those that are suffering from mental illnesses turn to drugs/alcohol because of inaccurate diagnosis and/or the inability to get a proper mental evaluation and subsequent rehabilitation/treatment ; or they simply cannot afford medicine(s) they need…….And I’m in no way advocating drug use or trying to condone it , but did that coward Pervert O’Lielly ever stop to consider some of the horrors these Vets have endured and/or witnessed , and come to understand how easily susceptible they are to looking to forget it all ; and what ‘better’ , simpler , quicker way is there than to become a drug user ?
Here’s a link that refutes Falafel Boy , and adds to his legendary idiocy…
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21678030/
January 18th, 2008 at 7:52 pmI may just vote for him, since he has more of a chance to break through the MSM election fixing barrier and actually winning than Kucinich does, unfortunately.
Comment by Wayne —
January 18th, 2008 at 8:00 pmI would bet most posters here and others from the informed population agree. Kucinich, Edwards are the ones the corporate MSM , (MSM also invested in other corporate areas such as defense and health care) fear the most. Can we get through to the dimwitted hypnotized TV viewers the truth of this corporate take over? With Edwards money which he has little of because he takes no corplorate money?
Comment by MCMetal
January 18th, 2008 at 8:09 pmLet us not forget homelessness and for profit health care began under Reagan… Reagan closed down many of the mental institutions putting the mentally ill in the streets. And, from lack of mental health facilities/modes of treatment the school shooting have gone up.
And due to the fact we have so many of the mentally ill untreated the Prison Industrialized Complex have made billions for many. Our country, the US, has 5% of the worlds population, yet we hold 25% of the worlds prisoners.
January 18th, 2008 at 8:13 pmComment by MCMetal
Let us not forget homelessness and for profit health care began under Reagan… Reagan closed down many of the mental institutions putting the mentally ill in the streets. And, from lack of mental health facilities/modes of treatment the school shooting have gone up.
Comment by had enough — January 18, 2008 @ 8:09 pm
January 18th, 2008 at 8:23 pmJust another skid mark alongside Ronnie Retard’s name and garbage presidency ; I never believed I would see another US president that was even close to being as crappy as he was….Chimpy is one special kind of stupid and useless , though……Sadly for us.
Let us not forget homelessness and for profit health care began under Reagan… Reagan closed down many of the mental institutions putting the mentally ill in the streets. And, from lack of mental health facilities/modes of treatment the school shooting have gone up.
Comment by had enough
compassionate conservatives at their worst… you misspelled raygun….for those not old enought to remember….
January 18th, 2008 at 8:35 pmi made a video of O’Really’s hate speech against homeless vets.
“THey’re all drug addicts and mental cases” he says. as an excuse as to whyw e shouldnt give a damn about wounded soldiers.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qi-xAObMR4E
January 18th, 2008 at 10:00 pmsame as abortion. Save the fetus but starve the kid on welfare. Save the soldier but abandon the veteran. The right have no sense of morality. They’re inhuman
January 18th, 2008 at 10:04 pmyou misspelled raygun….for those not old enough to remember….
Comment by Fred
You mean that drug store truck drivin’ man?
January 18th, 2008 at 10:08 pmWow, Tracy2, that wasn’t even a good try.
I’m not sure that even measured up to Frank M’s standards.
January 18th, 2008 at 10:22 pm“Edwards did lie. He does nothing for the democrats except try and drive wedges between the classes eventhough he has profited his entire life from the poor’s misery, i.e. a blood sucking trial lawyer.
Comment by Tracy2 — January 18, 2008 @ 10:16 pm”
One, where did he lie? You cite nothing. Two, blood-sucking? Corporations don’t have blood.
January 19th, 2008 at 1:39 amEdwards did lie. He does nothing for the democrats except try and drive wedges between the classes eventhough he has profited his entire life from the poor’s misery, i.e. a blood sucking trial laywer.
Comment by Tracy2 — January 18, 2008 @ 10:16 pm
Well you seem PROFICIENT at LYING, is that from you hiding your PROMISCUITY from that FAT UGLY WIFE OF YOURS, when you GO ON THE ROAD? ROTFL!!! Because Edwards DID NOT LIE, as was PROVEN!!! You however LIED by claiming he did, you IMMORAL, DISGUSTING LITTLE PIG!
January 19th, 2008 at 3:12 amI am just amazed that people, AMERICANS, still watch FOX.
It just shows me that there are a lot of idiots that live here, and our country is in grave danger of self-destruction.
Weren’t the Founding Fathers “enlightened”?
Corey Mondello
January 24th, 2008 at 5:18 pmBoston, Massachusetts
http://www.CoreyMondello.com
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