Comments on: Ridge: ‘No doubt…waterboarding is torture.’ http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:09:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Brain From Planet Arous http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/comment-page-5/#comment-4237320 Brain From Planet Arous Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:19:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/#comment-4237320 <em>It was the Japanese who liked to waterboard their prisoners. And yes, we prosecuted and hung them for doing it. Comment by shoeless — January 21, 2008 @ 9:23 am</em> But...but...but....we Neocon-Zion-Christo-Nazis are the chosen ones. It is in the Lord God's will that we torture the Ones Who are Not Like Us. We are Clean and wholesome, and GOD wants us to torture the Evil-doers, and this would include Liberals, Progressives, Gun Owners, Pagans, Gays (except Republicans), Vegetarians, Feminists, Atheists, Muslims, Buddhists, Nudists, Bird Watchers, Workers, anti war activists, and union organizers. It was the Japanese who liked to waterboard their prisoners. And yes, we prosecuted and hung them for doing it.

Comment by shoeless — January 21, 2008 @ 9:23 am

But…but…but….we Neocon-Zion-Christo-Nazis are the chosen ones. It is in the Lord God’s will that we torture the Ones Who are Not Like Us. We are Clean and wholesome, and GOD wants us to torture the Evil-doers, and this would include Liberals, Progressives, Gun Owners, Pagans, Gays (except Republicans), Vegetarians, Feminists, Atheists, Muslims, Buddhists, Nudists, Bird Watchers, Workers, anti war activists, and union organizers.

]]> By: shoeless http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/comment-page-5/#comment-4237036 shoeless Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:23:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/#comment-4237036 <em>GROW UP COWARDS!! BE MEN!! Comment by John Kerry — January 19, 2008 @ 4:16 pm Now, I will not call you any names, but answer one simple question…Why did the USA prosecute Germans and Japanese after WW2 for torturing people, including WATERBOARDING? Comment by Brain From Planet Arous</em> It was the Japanese who liked to waterboard their prisoners. And yes, we prosecuted and hung them for doing it. GROW UP COWARDS!! BE MEN!!

Comment by John Kerry — January 19, 2008 @ 4:16 pm

Now, I will not call you any names, but answer one simple question…Why did the USA prosecute Germans and Japanese after WW2 for torturing people, including WATERBOARDING?

Comment by Brain From Planet Arous

It was the Japanese who liked to waterboard their prisoners. And yes, we prosecuted and hung them for doing it.

]]> By: Brain From Planet Arous http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/comment-page-5/#comment-4235320 Brain From Planet Arous Sun, 20 Jan 2008 02:07:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/#comment-4235320 <em>GROW UP COWARDS!! BE MEN!! Comment by John Kerry — January 19, 2008 @ 4:16 pm</em> Now, I will not call you any names, but answer one simple question...Why did the USA prosecute Germans and Japanese after WW2 for torturing people, including WATERBOARDING? GROW UP COWARDS!! BE MEN!!

Comment by John Kerry — January 19, 2008 @ 4:16 pm

Now, I will not call you any names, but answer one simple question…Why did the USA prosecute Germans and Japanese after WW2 for torturing people, including WATERBOARDING?

]]> By: Merlin http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/comment-page-5/#comment-4234743 Merlin Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:32:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/#comment-4234743 #208 Comment by John Kerry — January 19, 2008 @ 4:16 pm <em>GROW UP COWARDS!! BE MEN!!</em> Grow up, John Kerry, and join the human race. #208 Comment by John Kerry — January 19, 2008 @ 4:16 pm

GROW UP COWARDS!! BE MEN!!

Grow up, John Kerry, and join the human race.

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/comment-page-5/#comment-4234619 dbadass Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:34:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/#comment-4234619 GROW UP COWARDS!! BE MEN!! Comment by John Kerry — January 19, 2008 @ 4:16 pm That one will live for the ages. Totally classic and the best shit I have seen all day. Well, other than some of my plastic fetus work. GROW UP COWARDS!! BE MEN!!

Comment by John Kerry — January 19, 2008 @ 4:16 pm

That one will live for the ages. Totally classic and the best shit I have seen all day. Well, other than some of my plastic fetus work.

]]> By: 99Luf Balloons http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/comment-page-5/#comment-4234505 99Luf Balloons Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:50:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/#comment-4234505 You can add lie-bermen to the list along with shitoff…Same camp, same background, same allegnce to Israel…Neither are american’s….Blessings Comment by Witch1 Sounds like we should compile the "National STUPIDTY Estimate" (NSE) You can add lie-bermen to the list along with shitoff…Same camp, same background, same allegnce to Israel…Neither are american’s….Blessings

Comment by Witch1

Sounds like we should compile the “National STUPIDTY Estimate” (NSE)

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]]> By: sacopenapa http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/comment-page-5/#comment-4234474 sacopenapa Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:16:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/#comment-4234474 WATERBOARDING IS TORTURE! HAGUE 2009 FOR THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION! INDICT IMPEACH IMPRISON BUSH/CHENNEY AND THEIR PERSONEL. WATERBOARDING IS TORTURE! HAGUE 2009 FOR THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION! INDICT IMPEACH IMPRISON BUSH/CHENNEY AND THEIR PERSONEL.

]]> By: williamf http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/comment-page-5/#comment-4234468 williamf Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:57:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/#comment-4234468 I've heard ad nauseum from the dopes who say because saying this and that so many Americans have died. They're full a shit. How many Americans have died because Bush and his army does torture? Only true combat vets are going to tell you, the professionals at least, torture hardly ever gets good info, gets troops killed because the torturee will say anything to find relief including setting troops up, and when one of ours gets in enemy hands they are going to suffer payback. The Bush administration hardly has anyone that did their duty and served so how are these people going to know what torture is or does? Their political appointees including generals behind desks are going to say, "oh, yes, torture is good for everything under the sun." Fact is, this is the country George has made. Fattening the rich and getting the working class (for the most part) killed in Iraq while he flatters himself as some kind of stud Texas cuttin' brush in Waco. Hey, this little frat rat is from New Haven Connecticut and went to school there. Texan my ass. His military service was bogus, we all know that, and he was a c student at Yale. We are supposed to listen to what this prick says!! And to top it off, the "commander in Chief" is a draft dodger. Jeez. No wonder the economy is in the shitter, jobs are being lost, the dow is three feet lower than whale shit and Bush and his cronies have the gall to say..."the surge worked." Laughable and damn near enough to make you want to do things you shouldn't. I’ve heard ad nauseum from the dopes who say because saying this and that so many Americans have died. They’re full a shit. How many Americans have died because Bush and his army does torture? Only true combat vets are going to tell you, the professionals at least, torture hardly ever gets good info, gets troops killed because the torturee will say anything to find relief including setting troops up, and when one of ours gets in enemy hands they are going to suffer payback. The Bush administration hardly has anyone that did their duty and served so how are these people going to know what torture is or does? Their political appointees including generals behind desks are going to say, “oh, yes, torture is good for everything under the sun.” Fact is, this is the country George has made. Fattening the rich and getting the working class (for the most part) killed in Iraq while he flatters himself as some kind of stud Texas cuttin’ brush in Waco. Hey, this little frat rat is from New Haven Connecticut and went to school there. Texan my ass. His military service was bogus, we all know that, and he was a c student at Yale. We are supposed to listen to what this prick says!! And to top it off, the “commander in Chief” is a draft dodger. Jeez. No wonder the economy is in the shitter, jobs are being lost, the dow is three feet lower than whale shit and Bush and his cronies have the gall to say…”the surge worked.” Laughable and damn near enough to make you want to do things you shouldn’t.

]]> By: Nevar http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/comment-page-5/#comment-4234465 Nevar Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:44:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/#comment-4234465 Off topic, but pretty funny. Notice this guy is from the same place Tom DeLay makes his home. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/19/doctored.photo.ap/index.html Off topic, but pretty funny.
Notice this guy is from the same place Tom DeLay makes his home.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/19/doctored.photo.ap/index.html

]]> By: Fred http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/comment-page-5/#comment-4234462 Fred Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:20:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/#comment-4234462 I agree, traitors to America....one and all. I agree, traitors to America….one and all.

]]> By: Witch1 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/comment-page-5/#comment-4234461 Witch1 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:17:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/#comment-4234461 You can add lie-bermen to the list along with shitoff...Same camp, same background, same allegnce to Israel...Neither are american's....Blessings You can add lie-bermen to the list along with shitoff…Same camp, same background, same allegnce to Israel…Neither are american’s….Blessings

]]> By: Brain From Planet Arous http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/comment-page-5/#comment-4234459 Brain From Planet Arous Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:04:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/#comment-4234459 <em>Michael Chertoff is an Israeli Mossad agent, and he thinks torture is “effective.” Comment by plunger — January 19, 2008 @ 9:57 am</em> As usual plunger is correct. More on this: <a href="http://www.viewzone.com/dualcitizen.html" rel="nofollow"></a> http://www.viewzone.com/dualcitizen.html Michael Chertoff is an Israeli Mossad agent, and he thinks torture is “effective.”

Comment by plunger — January 19, 2008 @ 9:57 am

As usual plunger is correct. More on this:

http://www.viewzone.com/dualcitizen.html

]]> By: Brain From Planet Arous http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/comment-page-4/#comment-4234457 Brain From Planet Arous Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:00:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/#comment-4234457 The ORIGINAL Invaders From Mars (1953) was an interesting story. William Cameron Menzies (Gone With The Wind, Things to Come) was under investigation as a "Commie". He wrote the story based on this. The brain implants could have been the Nazis who were now hunting Russians and Liberals in the USA. If you get to see the original, keep this is mind. Forget the 1985 version. <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045917/" rel="nofollow"></a> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045917/ <a href="http://tytusdezoo.republika.pl/pictandsound/sf/invaders/invaders4.jpg" rel="nofollow"></a> http://tytusdezoo.republika.pl/pictandsound/sf/invaders/invaders4.jpg <a href="http://www.eccentric-cinema.com/images2003/movie_pix_a-i/invaders_mars10.jpg" rel="nofollow"></a> http://www.eccentric-cinema.com/images2003/movie_pix_a-i/invaders_mars10.jpg The ORIGINAL Invaders From Mars (1953) was an interesting story. William Cameron Menzies (Gone With The Wind, Things to Come) was under investigation as a “Commie”. He wrote the story based on this. The brain implants could have been the Nazis who were now hunting Russians and Liberals in the USA. If you get to see the original, keep this is mind. Forget the 1985 version.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045917/

http://tytusdezoo.republika.pl/pictandsound/sf/invaders/invaders4.jpg

http://www.eccentric-cinema.com/images2003/movie_pix_a-i/invaders_mars10.jpg

]]> By: Brain From Planet Arous http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/comment-page-4/#comment-4234454 Brain From Planet Arous Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:48:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/#comment-4234454 Speaking of Zombies and Chertoff, officially the first zombie movie with men in suits (not jungle zombies), before Vincent Price's adaptation of I am Legend, "The Last Man on Earth", and Night of the Living Dead was "Invisible Invaders". See it!! Paul Dunlap doing the eerie soundtrack. <a href="http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i258/_Maikor_/MYSPACE/Zombie%20Movies/InvisibleInvaders1959.jpg" rel="nofollow"></a> http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i258/_Maikor_/MYSPACE/Zombie%20Movies/InvisibleInvaders1959.jpg <a href="http://uashome.alaska.edu/~jndfg20/website/invisible.jpg" rel="nofollow"></a> http://uashome.alaska.edu/~jndfg20/website/invisible.jpg <a href="http://www.quintadimension.com/0pics/terror/pics/invisible.jpg" rel="nofollow"></a> Speaking of Zombies and Chertoff, officially the first zombie movie with men in suits (not jungle zombies), before Vincent Price’s adaptation of I am Legend, “The Last Man on Earth”, and Night of the Living Dead was “Invisible Invaders”. See it!! Paul Dunlap doing the eerie soundtrack.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i258/_Maikor_/MYSPACE/Zombie%20Movies/InvisibleInvaders1959.jpg

http://uashome.alaska.edu/~jndfg20/website/invisible.jpg

]]> By: Doc Rock http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/comment-page-4/#comment-4234453 Doc Rock Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:12:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/#comment-4234453 Duh! Duh!

]]> By: plunger http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/comment-page-4/#comment-4234452 plunger Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:57:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/#comment-4234452 Michael Chertoff is an Israeli Mossad agent, and he thinks torture is "effective." Michael Chertoff is an Israeli Mossad agent, and he thinks torture is “effective.”

]]> By: pluege http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/comment-page-4/#comment-4234450 pluege Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:32:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/#comment-4234450 sonova gun, a honest republican... at least for one issue. Tom ridge ought to think about switching parties or becoming an independent (but not of the LIEberman kind of course). If Ridge stays a republican, we're going to put him a museum. . sonova gun, a honest republican… at least for one issue. Tom ridge ought to think about switching parties or becoming an independent (but not of the LIEberman kind of course). If Ridge stays a republican, we’re going to put him a museum.
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]]> By: Bruce Gorton http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/comment-page-4/#comment-4234445 Bruce Gorton Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:52:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/#comment-4234445 This is what the religious moral right has brought America to - us clapping someone on the back for coming out and calling torture, torture. That is the rightwing's moral superiority, their ethical high ground, that they took America from being a state were opposing things like waterboarding would be a matter of course similar to opposing rape, to this. This is what the religious moral right has brought America to – us clapping someone on the back for coming out and calling torture, torture.

That is the rightwing’s moral superiority, their ethical high ground, that they took America from being a state were opposing things like waterboarding would be a matter of course similar to opposing rape, to this.

]]> By: singe_101 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/comment-page-4/#comment-4234438 singe_101 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 08:36:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/ridge-no-doubtwaterboarding-is-torture/#comment-4234438 Comment 11 In some cases, very true. In other cases we just can't know about the dissidents in the military who were sent to Nazi prison camps, or Gitmo as enemy combatants, or just fired and had their family threatened, etc. Hitler for example wasn't going to record "contrary opinions" anywhere. Comment 11

In some cases, very true. In other cases we just can’t know about the dissidents in the military who were sent to Nazi prison camps, or Gitmo as enemy combatants, or just fired and had their family threatened, etc.

Hitler for example wasn’t going to record “contrary opinions” anywhere.

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