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1.20.09.

By Amanda Terkel on Jan 20th, 2008 at 8:47 pm

1.20.09.

Steve Benen at The Carpetbagger Report reminds us that “after seven painful years, the Bush presidency will end exactly one year from today.”




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265 Responses to “1.20.09.”

  1. stewarjt Says:

    Pain doesn't even begin to describe it.


  2. Jim Says:

    Thank God.

    Things won't get much better, though, if another Republican is elected president.


  3. Dreary Urbanite Says:

    ... unless we can get it ended before then.


  4. katy Says:

    also, via http://www.crooksandliars.com/

    (Bush Countdown Clock found on Facebook)

    The Independent (UK): Just one more year! Good riddance to George W. Bush.


  5. Abby Says:

    That's exactly what's wrong with this country. Knowing exactly what he's doing to this country, and knowing full well what else he's capable of doing in 365 more days, the once greatest country in the world will not remove the mad man from office.

    Bush did not destroy this country, Americans did.


  6. judyinnm Says:

    Not soon enough.

    But, I wonder if he'll actually give it up without a fight.....


  7. Thinking Person Says:

    I will believe it when I see it. I put nothing past Bush/Cheney to hang on to power, including the creation of a reason to invoke marshall law and cancel the election. I would SO love to be wrong about this, but we must never underestimate them. NEVER.

    If they are not held accountable, they will forever be a black force to be reckoned with, just as Cheney/Rumsfelt/&CO reappeared to create havoc despite their presumed demise after the Ford years.


  8. Zooey Says:

    1.20.09 will be the end....if not before....


  9. Merlin Says:

    Comment by Abby — January 20, 2008 @ 9:06 pm

    Bush did not destroy this country, Americans did.

    No, BushCo is destroying this country, The American public in its apathy is allowing them to do it.


  10. dixie blood Says:

    If Nancy PollLooser had a table and an impeachment to put on it we could end this criminal empire sooner!!

    But, alas, Nancy is, uh, um, well, a PollLooser!! We will get no help from this girlfriend!!! I hope she is out of the Congress ASAP!!!

    First woman speaker and one of the worst!!!


  11. Corporate Jesus Says:

    One year until the next Corporately owned regime!

    Bless all of you.


  12. Max-1 Says:

    .

    One year too late...

    Imagine what the BushCo can accomplish in that year.

    .


  13. Merlin Says:

    Comment by Thinking Person — January 20, 2008 @ 9:08

    ... we must never underestimate them. NEVER.

    Paranoia is a good thing, I agree. We need to be very alert and ready to react immediately. However, the way you put it here, sounds more like resigned fear. You've accepted "the inevitable" and are scared to death about it. Am I wrong?


  14. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Let me be the first to say, re: the Bush administration: I told you so.


  15. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Bush did not destroy this country, Americans did.

    Comment by Abby — January 20, 2008 @ 9:06 pm

    Amen, to that.


  16. Nevar Says:

    I honestly don't think Dubious has any fight left in him.
    He has been propped up, all his life, and his career and public service is a sham.
    And he knows it.
    He knows he is owned by the corporations, and that he will be tossed aside just like every other figure in his administration.

    The truly dangerous ones are Cheney and Negroponte, and their shadow handlers who have an entire (failed) dream to dominate and control world resources through the use of force and occupation.


  17. Wayne Says:

    1.20.09 will be the end….if not before….

    Comment by Zooey — January 20, 2008 @ 9:11 pm

    I hope.
    I am not real happy with the American Press, and with good reason.

    Just the latest, the British Press just did their job and confirmed a certain FBI whistleblower's story and the US Press hasn't said a peep about it.

    We are living "1984" and the storyline is not over yet.


  18. radhika Says:

    I also hope we bid adieu to the do-nothing-except-enable Democratic Congress. You know, the ones we naively thought would do their constitutional duty. In my cross-hairs: Reid, Pelosi, Waxman and Conyers - the latter two because they are all hat and no cattle when it comes to hearings.


  19. Zooey Says:

    We are living “1984″ and the storyline is not over yet.
    Comment by Wayne — January 20, 2008 @ 9:32 pm

    We've been covering this story like mad on TheZoo. Muse has several stories up this evening, in fact.


  20. LibertyLover Says:

    8 years too late.


  21. Zooey Says:

    Too bad you and 4 others are the only ones reading and commenting on it.
    Comment by justasking — January 20, 2008 @ 9:45 pm

    No need to be nasty. People can come over and read any time, not just today. You could even get yourself registered and comment, instead of lurking.


  22. nwmuse Says:

    Hi Zooey!

    There may not be too many posting at the moment, justasking, but that doesn't prevent over a thousand views a day.
    People are reading, and we are doing what we can to make sure that her story gets exposure. Its too important.


  23. Chuck U. Farley Says:

    Do you really think this criminal administration has grabbed so much unlimited power for someone else to use?


  24. Wayne Says:

    Too bad you and 4 others are the only ones reading and commenting on it.

    Comment by justasking — January 20, 2008 @ 9:45 pm

    I read it everyday. I just don't always have time to post.

    Your point?


  25. Zooey Says:

    I read it everyday. I just don’t always have time to post.
    Comment by Wayne — January 20, 2008 @ 9:59 pm

    :-)


  26. Dreary Urbanite Says:

    26 - Me too.


  27. Fool Zero Says:

    Alas, it'll be a 366-day year :-(


  28. Merlin Says:

    Comment by Nevar — January 20, 2008 @ 9:25 pm

    The truly dangerous ones are Cheney and Negroponte, and their shadow handlers who have an entire (failed) dream to dominate and control world resources through the use of force and occupation.

    Right on the money, Nevar!

    And of course the ones behind them. The trilateral Commission and the Bildebergers perhaps?


  29. Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver Says:

    Seven years that to me seem like seventy. Has it just been seven years? It seems like Bush has been in office forever. I've been around for quite awhile, since Eisenhower and I can't remember any Presidency that has dragged by so excruciatingly slow as Bush the Younger's has dragged by.


  30. Zooey Says:

    I guess that why you’re in here so much. Nothing to moderate over there. So you moderate here.

    But it’s cool.

    Comment by justasking — January 20, 2008 @ 10:00 pm

    I see, I moderate here. Interesting idea. Anyway, TheZoo does get about 1000 views per day, so I guess we've got things well in hand. Don't say I never invited you.

    I guess you're just happier eating worms in the garden...


  31. Zooey Says:

    How many people do you have registered?
    Comment by justasking — January 20, 2008 @ 10:08 pm

    They register with Wordpress, not the Zoo.


  32. Brain From Planet Arous Says:

    I’ve been around for quite awhile, since Eisenhower and I can’t remember any Presidency that has dragged by so excruciatingly slow as Bush the Younger’s has dragged by.

    Comment by Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver — January 20, 2008 @ 10:04 pm

    Since Truman myself. For those that think Bushitler will evoke Martial Law, it is very well within the realm of possibility.

    For those that think he won't...Read On:

    http://towardfreedom.com/home/content/view/911/


  33. wisedup Says:

    I can't comment right now,I'm going over to the ZOO...
    JUST COMMENTING....


  34. Merlin Says:

    Comment by Nevar — January 20, 2008 @ 9:25 pm

    I honestly don’t think Dubious has any fight left in him.
    He has been propped up, all his life, and his career and public service is a sham.
    And he knows it.
    He knows he is owned by the corporations, and that he will be tossed aside just like every other figure in his administration.

    43 never had any real fight in him. He has always been a bully and a loser. Even with his Daddy's fame, money and hands on the power throttle, dubya was and is a failure. With no mind of his own and steeped in megalomania (which would seem perfect as a front for the corporate neocons) he has been a dismal failure. He couldn't even do the job right with a box on his back under his jacket!

    And indeed he will be jettisoned by the corporate masters. He will IMO, get harmless, showy jobs to keep Daddy happy, who, of course, is one of the "masters." (Keep ma boy happy, will ya?)


  35. Fred Says:

    I checked it out a while back 3 or 4 times and it never changes. Nothing moves. Dusty in there. And I have allergies.

    Maybe you should pay for your own domain name. Maybe you’d get more traffic that way. Instead of relying on a free link from TP.

    Just a suggestion. So you don’t have to keep trying to do indirect advertising by bringing up your site yourself.

    I guess that why you’re in here so much. Nothing to moderate over there. So you moderate here.

    But it’s cool.

    Comment by justasking

    No point again....just generaizations and judgmental statments based on wisps of smoke....spoken just to hurt...jab and poke and say nothing...is that because you stand for nothing? Please tell us what you think for a change.


  36. Merlin Says:

    Anybody else?
    Comment by justasking — January 20, 2008 @ 10:05 pm

    Me too! Not that you really care.


  37. Zooey Says:

    The other day you said you were getting 100,00 views within a week.

    Maybe it was just a typo.

    Well, our views have increased quite a bit lately. It's funny how that happens. We go around the blogosphere with TheZoo attached to our names, and they like us so much they follow us home. Pretty cool.

    That was the same night you were in here drunk blogging.

    I think you’re the one that likes to eat worms. At least that’s what you said about sticking your tongue down that Tequila bottle and gobbling that one up. But you were drunk. So you posted that night. Funny how you brought up worms.

    Comment by justasking — January 20, 2008 @ 10:10 pm

    Does it hurt your feelings, hun? Do you want to set up a schedule for me? You could put some vitamins in one of those plastic boxes with the days of the week on it, and I promise I'd take them everyday.

    I am 48 years old. I have raised two sons into adulthood on my own, who manage very well on their own, thank you very much. I have contributed a fair amount to this society, and worked damn hard doing it.

    If I want to have a glass or two of wine now and then, I will certainly do it. I don't answer to you or anyone, so stow it, shithead.


  38. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    I read it everyday. I just don’t always have time to post.
    Comment by Wayne — January 20, 2008 @ 9:59 pm

    26 - Me too.

    Comment by Dreary Urbanite — January 20, 2008 @ 10:02 pm
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    Anybody else?

    Comment by justasking — January 20, 2008 @ 10:05 pm

    Yeah, me. Who wants to know?


  39. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Rock on, Zooey. You're awesome.


  40. Zooey Says:

    How many people are signed up to comment at TheZoo?
    Comment by justasking — January 20, 2008 @ 10:14 pm

    They sign up with Wordpress. They do not sign up with TheZoo. Can you understand what I just wrote?


  41. Merlin Says:

    Comment by Fred — January 20, 2008 @ 10:17 pm

    No point again….just generaizations and judgmental statments based on wisps of smoke….spoken just to hurt…jab and poke and say nothing…is that because you stand for nothing? Please tell us what you think for a change.

    Well put, Fred!

    Zeroing in on the real truth instead of arguing issues which is a waste of time with someone who never takes a stand.
    Expose the magician's tricks and he is powerless.


  42. Fred Says:

    hey justaskin....are you really bartlebee? I mean you're starting to sound like poor me.....like you are the only one that knows anything and everyone else is well just wrong....

    I drink and I don't give a damn about your judgmental attitude. I find you offensive and you seem to be here for one reason only...to derail any discussion.....can we say troll?


  43. nwmuse Says:

    justasking reminds me why I love our blog so much..

    Those who nothing of their own to contribute get their jollies going after those who do. Its sad really..


  44. nwmuse Says:

    I think Zooey answered your question:
    They sign up with Wordpress. They do not sign up with TheZoo.

    Did you miss it?

    Wordpress has approximately 2,202,497 blogs.


  45. Fred Says:

    I bet you can’t tell the truth. You’re gonna get defensive, watch.

    Comment by justasking

    judgmental and demanding......very childlike. Where do you....think......your authority comes from......respect will always be earned...try a little harder to learn how to play with others or risk being pigionholed.....troll like behavior is fairly easy to pick up on.


  46. Zooey Says:

    Comment by justasking — January 20, 2008 @ 10:24 pm

    I guess you don't like being called a shithead, right shithead? Well shithead, I don't like being called a drunk. Got that shithead? I don't care if the Zoo gets one view a day, shithead, we're having a lot of fun doing what we do over there. So shut the f_ck up, shithead. You have nothing to offer, and you never have.

    Shithead.


  47. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Fred, I see you're getting the hang of this forum. Even your troll-spotting sense is developing nicely.


  48. Zooey Says:

    judgmental and demanding……very childlike. Where do you….think……your authority comes from……respect will always be earned…try a little harder to learn how to play with others or risk being pigionholed…..troll like behavior is fairly easy to pick up on.

    Comment by Fred — January 20, 2008 @ 10:27 pm

    I bet he has crusty snot on his upper lip.


  49. Fred Says:

    thanks ralph....I'm gonna screw up from time to time but justaskin is well named and a known comodity. Zooey....don't let this varmit rile ya....she's just the turd in the punch bowl.....just here to keep anyone from having any fun because her life is devoid of anything worth having or holding including charactor.


  50. Zooey Says:

    Thanks, Ralph. :-)


  51. Dreary Urbanite Says:

    60 - Like that kid from "Bad Santa"?


  52. ebbAndflow Says:

    No.
    Because if you know (presumably) how many views you have, then surely you must know how many comments are registered THROUGH wordpress and are allowed INTO your site.
    there’s no way you’re going to put an accurate number out there.
    Because it’s embarassing for you.
    Comment by justasking — January 20, 2008 @ 10:26 pm

    Here's a little task for you: go to the site and count the number of comments - and we'll see you back here in about 2 months time.


  53. Fred Says:

    I bet he has crusty snot on his upper lip.

    Comment by Zooey

    yep, just the winey kid on the playground....


  54. Merlin Says:

    Comment by justasking — January 20, 2008 @ 10:21 pm

    I bet you can’t tell the truth. You’re gonna get defensive, watch.

    A schoolyard bully. Is that what you are aspiring to be? Because that is what you sound like. Do you have anything positive to offer this thread? If so lets hear it.

    Pssst...Here's a hint. Bullys are weak and scared, by the way. Not a good thing to become.


  55. Zooey Says:

    Comment by Fred — January 20, 2008 @ 10:32 pm

    Thanks, Fred. Not riled. Just saying what needs to be said to the little monster. ;)


  56. wisedup Says:

    I will mark my calander 1-20-09 and count down the days as the chimp packs his bags.


  57. had enough Says:

    One year left and where are we? A failing economy with the means that fuels our economy is this illegal massacre now draining our budget billions each month. Bush Crime Family and the corporate powers that be will step out nicely into their new life with the funds gained while robbing our treasury.
    Someone please prove I am wrong and that we have not been totally duped.


  58. Zooey Says:

    60 - Like that kid from “Bad Santa”?
    Comment by Dreary Urbanite — January 20, 2008 @ 10:33 pm

    Exactly!!


  59. Fred Says:

    But, I wonder if he’ll actually give it up without a fight…..

    Comment by judyinnm

    back on topic.....how can the trolls call us traitors? When did any American have a thought like this about a democrat, independant, etc....it is distinctly republican. Starting with Nixon.


  60. Gregor Samsa Says:

    Well, it seems our little troll has blog envy.

    I knew the troll was a little dense, but didn't realise just how much...


  61. lefttown Says:

    Somehow, someway, Bush and all the major lawbreakers have to be held accountable. The law either stands for everyone, or it doesn't stand for anyone. These guys can be charged with any number of crimes, and as the recession deepens and people begin to tie the Occupation with the recession, there may very well be angry, angry people calling for an end to the Occupation, and hopefully, demanding justice for the diasters these amoral a**holes have created. It's only right they should pay for their crimes.


  62. Fred Says:

    Thanks, Fred. Not riled. Just saying what needs to be said to the little monster. ;)

    Comment by Zooey

    I watched you reach out to justaskin and she basically kicked you in the teeth....that was in a different thread. We can't however stop sticking our necks out......you know..being nice from fear, but when someone like this shows their hand, all bets are off.


  63. Gregor Samsa Says:

    On topic, the warmongers at the White House still have waay too much time left to settle whatever score they think needs to be settled with Iran, Syria, and even China.

    This is going to be one of the longest years of my life.


  64. Merlin Says:

    Comment by had enough — January 20, 2008 @ 10:36 pm

    Someone please prove I am wrong and that we have not been totally duped.

    I'd love to, but... we were.

    Its always darkest before the light! Chin up, keep a stiff upper lip and keep fighting. There really have been fantastic changes in the last 3 years. In my optimistic view, nothing will happen to derail the change in government direction during 2008, in spite of all the doom sayers here carrying signs that say "the world is going to end."


  65. Fred Says:

    Comment by Gregor Samsa

    I agree that this is a dangerous time for us all. If we get through the next year and get rid of bush the whole world will rejoice with us...We can restore dignity to our nation.....


  66. Zooey Says:

    Comment by Fred — January 20, 2008 @ 10:40 pm

    Well, I didn't really expect much from that, given his/her attitude, but I really don't appreciate an attempted public smearing.


  67. Fred Says:

    Well, I didn’t really expect much from that, given his/her attitude, but I really don’t appreciate an attempted public smearing.

    Comment by Zooey

    that's all she/he's got....just a shallow troll with a typically negative agenda....don't ever let slime like that make you feel bad about yourself....


  68. Gregor Samsa Says:

    I agree that this is a dangerous time for us all.
    Comment by Fred — January 20, 2008 @ 10:44 pm

    With the hawks in this administration still calling for a strike against Iran, I believe anything is still possible.

    Even if they don't, the mess that they will leave behind is more than enough to keep future administrations busy for years to come.

    Heckuva job, Georgie!


  69. Fred Says:

    Well, I didn’t really expect much from that, given his/her attitude, but I really don’t appreciate an attempted public smearing.

    Comment by Zooey

    I'm fairly new here so I've been giving some thought as to why these trolls exist....what is the makeup of a troll? I think now that most of them are people who basically hate themselves and are driven by a need to make others feel bad about themselves.

    I have seen several posts that refer to paid trolls and probably they do exist but most of what I see from them seems to come from some something inside of them....something missing or a dark side. I doubt that they are very happy people...


  70. Zooey Says:

    ….don’t ever let slime like that make you feel bad about yourself….
    Comment by Fred — January 20, 2008 @ 10:46 pm

    Not even possible. :-)


  71. Gregor Samsa Says:

    What's with the passive aggressive little troll?

    It insults, harasses and then claims to be the victim when someone gets fed up and returns the insults.

    I am not sure what the little troll is even trying to prove...


  72. Fred Says:

    With the hawks in this administration still calling for a strike against Iran, I believe anything is still possible.

    Even if they don’t, the mess that they will leave behind is more than enough to keep future administrations busy for years to come.

    Heckuva job, Georgie!

    Comment by Gregor Samsa

    so far something has discouraged them from making the move on Iran....I'm like you, I just hope it's not a timing thing....

    We will never get back, well not for generations some of the things they have destroyed......look what raygun did to unions in our country....how long ago was that? They are barely alive even now.


  73. Fred Says:

    80 justaskin.....Told ya.....no point, just slander and judgment....
    eh....you are the worm kid.


  74. Merlin Says:

    Comment by Zooey — January 20, 2008 @ 10:44 pm

    Well, I didn’t really expect much from that, given his/her attitude, but I really don’t appreciate an attempted public smearing.

    Zooey, that is what trolls do. They try and find an emotional weakness and exploit it. BushCo did this extremely well. Look at the swift boating of John Kerry. It doesn't get more public and smearing than that. Right wing trolls do what ever it takes to inflame and arouse. And ruin the thread.

    The thing is, they are totally not involved in the game they are playing. They have no personal or emotional stake in anything they say. So you can't "get to them" at all. They want you to denigrate them! Then they win. They are cool and above the fray, while the name caller "shows" his "real" side, which the troll exploits. It is a rare time when you can get under their skin. Like the other day when O Bigfoot got hooked and said all kinds of "incriminating" stuff about what he believed. (Like he only comes here to prove what hypocrits lefties are. Not really to discuss)


  75. Fred Says:

    you know justaskin....some of us have raised children...we can have a conversation around your childisness....here let me blow your little nose for ya.....there ya go. Now go play.


  76. RUCerious Says:

    Perhaps I should create the RUC-TimeFastForwarder and sell them cheap on the internets.


  77. pete Says:

    I wont sleep easy until Bushco is gone. I would put nothing past them. However, I think they are running out of steam. The mere fact that so many patriots are leaking secrets may be the most encouraging sign. Especially the "wayward nukes" affair. All those career politicos, and honorable soldiers, need to ensure there's still a teat to suck on and a country to stand up for..

    Then there's the polls. 60%, or so, see the "man behind the curtain" and a significant number see how utterly corrupt "the man" is. Even the monolithic "religious right" may fracture if anyone but the Huckster gets the nomination. It would take a monumental catastrophe to keep the neocons in power and, frankly, if that happened there wouldn't be much left fighting for; even for cockroaches and scorpions.


  78. Fred Says:

    Then there’s the polls. 60%, or so, see the “man behind the curtain” and a significant number see how utterly corrupt “the man” is.
    Comment by pete

    This I think will be our best hope of things working out well. Hopefully the American people have just seen enough of war for no reason, corruption, destruction of our economy.......we all do have a vested interest in this working out.


  79. Gregor Samsa Says:

    Comment by Fred — January 20, 2008 @ 10:54 pm

    That is part of the neo-con wet dream: To dismantle the society that the New Deal created.

    It also explains the attack on social security, and the loathe for universal health care.

    Am tellin' ya, the crazies are in charge of the asylum.


  80. RUCerious Says:

    JustBraying, are you loitering here again badmouthing the Zoo?

    Get a life.

    oh, by the way, how do you like my comments over there, pretty snappy, huh?


  81. republicans hate facts Says:

    The thing is, they are totally not involved in the game they are playing. They have no personal or emotional stake in anything they say. So you can’t “get to them” at all. They want you to denigrate them! Then they win. They are cool and above the fray, while the name caller “shows” his “real” side, which the troll exploits. It is a rare time when you can get under their skin. Like the other day when O Bigfoot got hooked and said all kinds of “incriminating” stuff about what he believed. (Like he only comes here to prove what hypocrits lefties are. Not really to discuss)
    Comment by Merlin — January 20, 2008 @ 10:57 pm

    NOT TRUE. They don't want you to DENEGRATE them, they want you to TAKE THEIR TALKING POINT CRAP SERIOUSLY and LEGITIMIZE their STUPID OPINIONS! What they HATE is BEING IGNORED, or BELITTLED for the TARD (they secretly KNOW) THEY ARE! ;)

    OBigfoot is Kevin Schuchart - a SECOND RATE BUTCHER (MORON) from NO WHERE! He HATES and FEARS the REALITY HE'S SO POORLY EQUIPPED TO DEAL WITH... Poor Little FAT UGLY TARD! ;)


  82. Gregor Samsa Says:

    Can someone please tell the troll that commenting at ThinkProgress and at TPZoo are not mutually exclusive?

    Do you think the troll can handle such abstract thought?


  83. Fred Says:

    Zooey would stay here no matter what rather than go to TheZoo.

    As would everyone else.

    Comment by justasking

    This makes no sense to me whatsoever......please, if you have a point, try to make it understandable. By the way, how many hits are you getting at your blog.....oh yeah, you don't have one because you don't have an opinion or a point about anything.


  84. shaun Says:

    Comment by Nevar — January 20, 2008 @ 9:25 pm

    i agree - whenever the chimp is in front of the cameras these days he looks beaten up and exhausted and gives laboured statements that are void of substance - 1 year is plenty of time for the real string-puller cheney to to inflict more damage overseas or at home for that matter


  85. had enough Says:

    But, I wonder if he’ll actually give it up without a fight…..

    Comment by judyinnm
    Bush is probably hoping he can make his BIG get away before the masses catch on to the rip off and damage done. Paraguay?


  86. Merlin Says:

    #82 Comment by Fred — January 20, 2008 @ 10:51 pm

    I’ve been giving some thought as to why these trolls exist….what is the makeup of a troll?

    From Wiki:

    An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response.

    Emphasis is mine.

    IMO. You can only win with a troll by
    1. ignoring it
    2. Not getting emotionally involved and playing with it (if you have nothing better to do with your time.)

    Any other way and you lose!


  87. pete Says:

    I have seen several posts that refer to paid trolls and probably they do exist but most of what I see from them seems to come from some something inside of them….something missing or a dark side. I doubt that they are very happy people…

    Comment by Fred — January 20, 2008 @ 10:51 pm

    My guess is that most are just immature little vandals. Before the internet they would have been egging houses, making crank calls, breaking windows, and trenching yards.

    That's about it. Stunted personalities with a sick need to ridicule all that's beyond their comprehension. The intelligent exchange of ideas serves only to highlight their flaws so they seek to disrupt it. Sad huh?


  88. Fred Says:

    That is part of the neo-con wet dream: To dismantle the society that the New Deal created.

    It also explains the attack on social security, and the loathe for universal health care.

    Am tellin’ ya, the crazies are in charge of the asylum.

    Comment by Gregor Samsa

    damn straight.......starve and break the economy so we can't afford the things we need to support a civil society.


  89. Thinking Person Says:

    Comment by Merlin — January 20, 2008 @ 9:20 pm
    Paranoia is a good thing, I agree. We need to be very alert and ready to react immediately. However, the way you put it here, sounds more like resigned fear. You’ve accepted “the inevitable” and are scared to death about it. Am I wrong?

    No, Merlin, I have great hope and I'm not paranoid. I'm just one of those who wasn't skeptical enough early enough. I've been surprised too often, thinking they wouldn't really do this or that, plus I'm from Wyoming where Cheney still ranks as a god with many.

    When Bush/Cheney goes out the door, I believe the collective sigh of relief around the world will be tangible.


  90. Zooey Says:

    i agree - whenever the chimp is in front of the cameras these days he looks beaten up and exhausted and gives laboured statements that are void of substance - 1 year is plenty of time for the real string-puller cheney to to inflict more damage overseas or at home for that matter
    Comment by shaun — January 20, 2008 @ 11:06 pm

    Funny thing, I just put up a post at TheZoo comparing GWB from 10 years ago, to today's GWB.


  91. Fred Says:

    Bush is probably hoping he can make his BIG get away before the masses catch on to the rip off and damage done. Paraguay?

    Comment by had enough

    That's my guess too had...they are doing things down there and after all that's where the nazi's ran to...there's some irony huh?


  92. pete Says:

    IMO. You can only win with a troll by
    1. ignoring it
    2. Not getting emotionally involved and playing with it (if you have nothing better to do with your time.)

    Any other way and you lose!

    Comment by Merlin — January 20, 2008 @ 11:06 pm

    Talking about the troll, rather than to it, seems fairly effective as well. Especially when one refers to it as "it".


  93. Merlin Says:

    this is too easy.
    Comment by justasking — January 20, 2008 @ 11:07 pm

    Yes, unfortunately you are right! As much as I hate to admit it! I'm glad you are willing to admit what you are doing. Game players more often than not won't!


  94. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Can someone please tell the troll that commenting at ThinkProgress and at TPZoo are not mutually exclusive?

    Do you think the troll can handle such abstract thought?

    Comment by Gregor Samsa — January 20, 2008 @ 11:04 pm

    BINGO, Gregor. There are a couple of characteristics that are common to the right-wing mind, and among trolls as well. One of them is ferocious devotion to binary thinking.


  95. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    whenever the chimp is in front of the cameras these days he looks beaten up and exhausted and gives laboured statements that are void of substance

    Comment by shaun — January 20, 2008 @ 11:06 pm

    Aside from the beaten up and exhausted part, who is that any different from his inauguration day?


  96. Merlin Says:

    Comment by pete — January 20, 2008 @ 11:11 pm

    Talking about the troll, rather than to it, seems fairly effective as well. Especially when one refers to it as “it”.

    Yes I agree. I consider that a tactic under number 2. I use it frequently.


  97. Fred Says:

    this is too easy.

    Comment by justasking

    The sad part is that it's never too late for "it" to say something intelligent, yet "it" never does. Whatdya think Pete?


  98. Shayne Says:

    Zooey would stay here no matter what rather than go to TheZoo.

    As would everyone else.

    Comment by justasking — January 20, 2008 @ 11:00 pm

    We were here long before TheZoo and we'll be here long after you're gone. Frankly kid, you're on borrowed time. Are you jealous of everybody who has friends and relationships? That's rhetorical, of course you are.


  99. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    this is too easy.

    Comment by justasking — January 20, 2008 @ 11:07 pm

    Anything is easy if you risk nothing and have nothing to offer.


  100. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    I've seen trolls come and I seen trolls go, and I gotta say, this justasskissing kid makes less sense than almost anyone of 'em. Except maybe Billy Hill. But then, I suspect Billy's always zonked out on Robitussin, so he's got an excuse.


  101. barfly Says:

    "this is too easy."

    Comment by justasking

    Then lets make it a little more challenging.

    Which of Bush's current initiatives will come to successful fruition before the end of his term, and why do you think so?


  102. Fred Says:

    justaskin....please tell us how many hits you are getting at your blog?


  103. Shayne Says:

    Maybe you should give out coupons, Zooey.

    Comment by justasking — January 20, 2008 @ 11:14 pm

    We don't need to with all the free advertising you're giving us. Oscar Wilde said, "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." Thanks for the help justanass, frankly everybody believed you'd never be good for anything.


  104. Gregor Samsa Says:

    Another characteristic all trolls share, is piss-poor reading comprehension skills.

    For example, I said: "commenting at ThinkProgress and at TPZoo are not mutually exclusive"

    Their reply? "yes, it is. it's the same people from here".

    Aaah, the room temperature IQ trolls... always good for a belly laugh.


  105. barfly Says:

    When I ask which of his initiatives, I mean the ones he's currently trying to get through congress.


  106. Merlin Says:

    Comment by Thinking Person — January 20, 2008 @ 11:10

    No, Merlin, I have great hope and I’m not paranoid. I’m just one of those who wasn’t skeptical enough early enough. I’ve been surprised too often, thinking they wouldn’t really do this or that, plus I’m from Wyoming where Cheney still ranks as a god with many.

    I'm glad to hear it. You have good reason to be paranoid (which is a good word, and good thing to be.) We all do, but none more than someone from Wyoming! Chainy is a horror. Keep up the good fight!


  107. pete Says:

    Comment by Fred — January 20, 2008 @ 11:15 pm

    Well. There you run into the whole "willingness to admit a problem" and treat it dilemma. Unfortunately, immature personalities seldom admit their faults, even to themselves. The only "cures" come from positive life experience and having an open mind. Then there's the whole "compartmentalized thinking" issue among "authoritarians".

    BTW, here's a great read which pretty much explains the whole mindset, and motivation, of "authoritarians". It's rather long but well worth it.

    http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/


  108. Gregor Samsa Says:

    Comment by ralph the wonder llama — January 20, 2008 @ 11:13 pm

    Binary thinking indeed.

    Give 'em three choices and watch their heads explode ;-)


  109. barfly Says:

    "that’s a stupid question. None of them."

    Not even the current fix for the looming recession?


  110. Shayne Says:

    yes it is. Its the same people from here. Only not talking for long.

    Comment by justasking — January 20, 2008 @ 11:16 pm

    Not all the same people are there. We started TheZoo so that when you trolls were too annoying to deal with we'd have a place to get away from you. Get it?


  111. Fred Says:

    124.....I picked up on that too Gregor....kinda sad isn't she?


  112. Shayne Says:

    Keep up, please.

    Comment by justasking — January 20, 2008 @ 11:23 pm

    You have to say that to all the men, don't you?


  113. republicans hate facts Says:

    this is too easy.
    Comment by justasking — January 20, 2008 @ 11:07 pm

    MAKING A FOOL OF YOURSELF, while being TOO STUPID to KNOW IT? Well to be fair, it's OBVIOUS you have a LIFETIME OF EXPERIENCE at BEING A LOSER! ROTFL! ;)


  114. pete Says:

    You have good reason to be paranoid (which is a good word, and good thing to be.) We all do, but none more than someone from Wyoming! Chainy is a horror. Keep up the good fight!

    Comment by Merlin — January 20, 2008 @ 11:23 pm

    I prefer "hyper-vigilant". Makes you sound like a "super-hero" instead of a mental patient. LOL


  115. republicans hate facts Says:

    The stimulus package is too little too late.
    Next?
    Comment by justasking — January 20, 2008 @ 11:27 pm

    You mean it's a TYPICAL REPUBLICAN ACTION - sort of like YOUR POSTS! Next? ROTFL!!


  116. RUCerious Says:

    My fervent hope is that as the clock winds down, Bush doesn't get drunk on the hey, what are they going to do, send me to Nam? attitude, and unilaterally order the bombing of Iran.


  117. republicans hate facts Says:

    Keep up, please.
    Comment by justasking — January 20, 2008 @ 11:23 pm

    AH, to KEEP UP with YOU, everyone here has to SLAM ON THE BREAKS!!! ROTFL!!


  118. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Reading some of the contributions from justasskissing, I'm reminded of a line from "Bull Durham":

    "Having a conversation with you is like a Martian talking to a fungo."


  119. gummitch Says:

    justaskin….please tell us how many hits you are getting at your blog?

    Comment by Fred — January 20, 2008 @ 11:21 pm

    Pretty close to zero, especially if you don't count the troll's one buddy. I bet Zooey a few weeks ago that justaskin was Mr Pee. Same stupidity, same irrelevance, and same obsession with Zooey's personal life. I think I won the bet. This is a very stupid and useless troll.

    And, oh yeah, it drools about The Zoo a lot. That's because it's not allowed to post there. From time to time, the spamcatcher picks up the troll whining in the dark, but the wonders of automation mean we can ignore it entirely.


  120. republicans hate facts Says:

    what?
    that’s a stupid question. None of them.
    Bush is a lame duck president as of now.
    Keep up, please.
    Comment by justasking — January 20, 2008 @ 11:23 pm

    AS OF NOW? What about the LAST THREE YEARS!! Keep UP, Junior!!! ROTFL, you're DUMB!


  121. Fred Says:

    The stimulus package is too little too late.

    Next?

    Comment by justasking

    so you basically agree with eveyone here, correct?


  122. Marie Says:

    My calendars tell me we can begin the countdown - but realistically, it's still a full year away. Bush&Co can create a lot of damage.


  123. Dreary Urbanite Says:

    #124 - that's one cold room you must be in Gregor!


  124. Shayne Says:

    Reading justasking gives you insight into why all the rethug candidates are total knuckledraggers. Look at their base, their hardcore supporters. Intelligence is kryptonite to them.


  125. republicans hate facts Says:

    so you basically agree with eveyone here, correct?
    Comment by Fred — January 20, 2008 @ 11:29 pm

    The republicans ALL KNOW that they're INCOMPETENT - they just DENY IT because they're SO INSECURE and EMBARRASSED! ROTFL!!


  126. gummitch Says:

    But do remember, the troll's only reason for appearing here is to turn all conversations on to the troll. This one is particularly desperate for attention.


  127. barfly Says:

    "The stimulus package is too little too late.

    Next?"

    How so?

    The democrats have offered several fixes, and this represents the last chance Bush has to cement a positive achievement into his legacy; if he's willing to accept a slight compromise, he won't be bracketed in the history books by recession. You think he'll let the country just slip into a deep recession, and do nothing?


  128. RUCerious Says:

    Are there Vegas odds on Cheney's chest exploding and an alien popping out of it>? You know, where most people have a heart?


  129. republicans hate facts Says:

    But do remember, the troll’s only reason for appearing here is to turn all conversations on to the troll. This one is particularly desperate for attention.
    Comment by gummitch — January 20, 2008 @ 11:30 pm

    Actually MOST are here to APPEAR to have an ALTERNATE EQUAL RESPONSE, even though their OPINION is NEVER as RELEVANT OR INFORMED... That's why the BEST SOLUTION is to JUST MAKE FUN of HOW STUPID and UNINFORMED THEY ARE! ;)


  130. RUCerious Says:

    Why is JustBraying stalking Zooey?


  131. Merlin Says:

    Comment by RUCerious — January 20, 2008 @ 11:27 pm

    My fervent hope is that as the clock winds down, Bush doesn’t get drunk on the hey, what are they going to do, send me to Nam? attitude

    That wouldn't be so bad. The last time he said that, poppy got him into the Guard. Maybe this time he could finish his tour.


  132. Fred Says:

    My calendars tell me we can begin the countdown - but realistically, it’s still a full year away. Bush&Co can create a lot of damage.

    Comment by Marie

    Marie, as was discussed earlier, they have already done enormous damage. I know eveyone is pissed at our democrats in the house and senate right now but they are slowing a lot of the damage just by being there....not enough but some.


  133. Shayne Says:

    where’s Zooey?

    Comment by justasking — January 20, 2008 @ 11:32 pm

    None of your effing business. You don't get to ask questions. You're hear as our whipping post, know your place. And where's your little b*ttbuddy, alphaomegawhogivesashit? You two still shacking up at the Motel 6?


  134. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    gum, I think you're right. I know Mr. Pee gets blamed for most new troll infestations, but there a certain repulsively familiar stupidity to this one.


  135. Gregor Samsa Says:

    justasking = michael

    Same non-intelligent comments, same obsession with Zooey, same look-at-me posts.


  136. RUCerious Says:

    justbraying also reminds me of a somewhat healed Rachel from yesteryore.


  137. Shayne Says:

    I said it too little too late.

    What do YOU think?

    Comment by justasking — January 20, 2008 @ 11:35 pm

    I think nobody gives a sh*t what your think. Your place is on the floor where we can kick you around. Remember your place of servitude.


  138. Shayne Says:

    Anybody interested they're playing Lewis Black on Comedy Central tonight.


  139. Fred Says:

    where’s Zooey?

    Comment by justasking

    This one reminds me of that child who won't go play with the other children...who would rather risk the wrath of her parents than not have the attention....even negative attention is better than being ignored.

    Word of advice to you justaskin......if you become too much of a distraction we do have options. TP has dealt with your type as you well know. You are fast approaching the point that I might be willing to speak out about the lack of willingness on your part to enter any discussion in the forum....


  140. shaun Says:

    Aside from the beaten up and exhausted part, who is that any different from his inauguration day?

    Comment by ralph the wonder llama — January 20, 2008 @ 11:15 pm

    ha!! - well noted ralph - i guess that when,in earlier times,he would speak of "putting food on your family", and "childrens do learn",and "I think -- tide turning -- see, as I remember -- I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of -- it's easy to see a tide turn -- did I say those words?" - at least he was delivering these gems with a bit of energy! - now he just seems disintersted and as lifeless as a discarded blow-up doll - and without rove there to breathe a bit of life back into him,he will only continue to wilt


  141. barfly Says:

    And to follow up on my last comment, "You think he’ll let the country just slip into a deep recession, and do nothing?"

    If history has shown us one thing about Bush, it's that he thinks of himself first. In that light, there are many things that Bush will countenance -- but not a slur on his "good" name. To him, Iraq might evetually pan out. But he doesn't want his grandchildren being taught how badly the government was run on his watch. Regardless of how badly it actually was operated and overseen, if he can generate one positive act at the end of his administration, he can leave town with at least the slight hope of eventual historical vindication - and something to finally brag about.

    Right now, he's got nothing.


  142. Shayne Says:

    I bet Shayne gets very few tips at work.

    Comment by justasking — January 20, 2008 @ 11:39 pm

    Well I thought you were Mr. P but this obsession with drinking and my having tended bar when I was younger shows your obsession CT. Just because your mother's a drunk crack whore you think everybody who has a glass of wine is the same. You need counseling you poor thing.


  143. Shayne Says:

    You’re supposed to be finding that second thread.

    Comment by justasking

    Nobody's finding sh*t for you whipping boy. You're here to serve us, remember.


  144. Gregor Samsa Says:

    I can understand someone in a thread picking a fight with someone else. It is something else entirely to be stalking another person all over the blog, thread after thread.

    It is still something else to pick a fight with everybody else in sight, without ever trying to make a valid point on anything at all. Let alone the bleeding topic of the thread.

    The time has come to flag the thread-derailing, look-at-me twit.


  145. pete Says:

    Well. That's enough for me. It's nice to be back.

    G'night good people.
    You too trolls.


  146. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    166 - point well taken, shaun. Attitude and energy, you're right. Chimpy does seem dispirited these last couple of years.


  147. Zooey Says:

    G’night good people.
    You too trolls.

    Comment by pete — January 20, 2008 @ 11:47 pm

    Goodnight, pete. Glad you're back!


  148. Fred Says:

    166 - point well taken, shaun. Attitude and energy, you’re right. Chimpy does seem dispirited these last couple of years.

    Comment by ralph the wonder llama

    I thought the drinking was showing on his face when he gave his little economic stimulus speech.


  149. barfly Says:

    "Nobody’s finding sh*t for you whipping boy. You’re here to serve us, remember."

    Comment by Shayne —

    Wow.

    [scraping forehead on plastic floor-protector]

    Command us, Mistress Shayne; though we are not worthy, we crave thy stern forebearance!


  150. Shayne Says:

    Command us, Mistress Shayne; though we are not worthy, we crave thy stern forebearance!

    Comment by barfly — January 20, 2008 @ 11:51 pm

    Sorry barfly, sometimes the vision of Mr. P and CT posting naked on the bed at that Motel 6 drives me over the edge. Especially because CT thinks every woman is like that crack whore mother of his.


  151. barfly Says:

    "Sorry barfly, sometimes the vision of Mr. P and CT posting naked on the bed at that Motel 6 drives me over the edge."

    Can I get off the floor now, mistress? I haven't vacuumed in a while...


  152. Zooey Says:

    Command us, Mistress Shayne; though we are not worthy, we crave thy stern forebearance!
    Comment by barfly — January 20, 2008 @ 11:51 pm

    We've got some tough women at TheZoo. ;)


  153. Jane E. Schneider Says:

    We’ve got some tough women at TheZoo. ;)
    Comment by Zooey — January 21, 2008 @ 12:00 am

    That's for sure!


  154. Shayne Says:

    You can get up barfly but justanass has to to say please before he can get off the floor and clean himself off.


  155. gummitch Says:

    Comment by justasking — January 21, 2008 @ 12:02 am

    Like I said, obsessed with Zooey and The Zoo. It's almost as if the troll has no actual life of its own.

    Then again, it appears to have successfully derailed the thread. Even negative attention is better than being alone in the basement, right, troll?


  156. Zooey Says:

    That’s for sure!
    Comment by Jane E. Schneider — January 21, 2008 @ 12:01 am

    Speaking of tough women....Hi, Jane!


  157. Jane E. Schneider Says:

    Hey, Zooey! Having fun with your stalker?


  158. Zooey Says:

    Hey, Zooey! Having fun with your stalker?
    Comment by Jane E. Schneider — January 21, 2008 @ 12:09 am

    Who?


  159. Jane E. Schneider Says:

    Hmmm, the stalker sounds like our old pal MA, she could never resist making snide remarks about Wayne.


  160. Shayne Says:

    Oh look at juststalking thinking he's clever. Well troll you don't want to stay around too long this time do you?


  161. Shayne Says:

    Mornin' Jane. Yeah this stalker thinks we didn't know he's an old timer. Ooh, like we're really surprised he know stuff. I know what he can stuff ...


  162. Zooey Says:

    Shayne, isn't it just too sad to picture the little trollie with his 3x5 cards full of notes about all the "TP regulars" he hates so much?


  163. Fred Says:

    Shayne, isn’t it just too sad to picture the little trollie with his 3×5 cards full of notes about all the “TP regulars” he hates so much?

    Comment by Zooey

    this one says he has a .........database.......full of info to use against the regulars......


  164. Jane E. Schneider Says:

    Good morning and good night, Shayne--my cats are telling me it's bedtime. I'll see ya around! :)


  165. Fred Says:

    what do you want justjackin? What is it you are after here?


  166. Zooey Says:

    this one says he has a ………database…….full of info to use against the regulars……
    Comment by Fred — January 21, 2008 @ 12:24 am

    Really? What fun.

    **eyes rolling**


  167. Gregor Samsa Says:

    Comment by Fred — January 21, 2008 @ 12:26 am

    Prove to himself how smart he is by derailing the threads. He has not other goal in life.

    In other words, he's your run-of-the-mill troll.


  168. Shayne Says:

    It would be sad if anybody cared about this person, but alas, nobody does.


  169. Shayne Says:

    The funnies thing was this troll showed up picking on JPark for no reason and acted like he was the victim of all the big bad regulars around here. He's too pathetic to even carry on a fake persona.


  170. Shayne Says:

    You find that second thread, Fred?

    Comment by justasking — January 21, 2008 @ 12:40 am

    BORING, you're supposed to be amusing us. You are such a failure.


  171. gummitch Says:

    Comment by justasking — January 21, 2008 @ 12:43 am

    About a week ago, this troll claimed to be all new, all fresh, "Ooooh, I just got here!"

    Riiiight. Nice try, Pee.


  172. Fred Says:

    The funnies thing was this troll showed up picking on JPark for no reason and acted like he was the victim of all the big bad regulars around here. He’s too pathetic to even carry on a fake persona.

    Comment by Shayne

    I think that's the second thread he keeps referring to. him and sayben91 were trashing everyone late one night....all alone....I just happened along and lurked long enough to find out all I needed to know about justaskn.


  173. Zooey Says:

    he admitted the other night that people didn’t like him as Jpark. And only recently has he been outed.
    Comment by justasking — January 21, 2008 @ 12:45 am

    That's a lie. JP said he couldn't remember his own sign on name, and chose another one. He said he thought people might not have liked him, but that wasn't the reason he switched. And after he showed up as Sabyen91, he told me almost immediately who he was.

    You are such a troublemaker.


  174. Fred Says:

    the discussion seems to be making the troll nervous.....


  175. Zooey Says:

    So does he comment at TheZoo?
    Comment by justasking — January 21, 2008 @ 12:53 am

    Of course he does.


  176. jerseyboyblue Says:

    The sad thing is that this man lost two elections and still is residing in 1600 Pennsylvania.
    Every American should bow their head in shame for letting this happen.


  177. Fred Says:

    how come you're being so nice when you talk to or about zooey or shayne tonight.....you sure were singing a different tune the other night. Seems kinda two faced to me....


  178. Gregor Samsa Says:

    Comment by Zooey — January 21, 2008 @ 12:50 am

    I happen to have seen that thread. JPark didn't hide who he was.

    The troll is lying. What a shock, I know.


  179. gummitch Says:

    So that makes how many commenters in all?

    Comment by justasking — January 21, 2008 @ 12:59 am

    About 900 more than your blog, Pee.


  180. Zooey Says:

    So that makes how many commenters in all?
    Comment by justasking — January 21, 2008 @ 12:59 am

    You're the one with the database, shithead. Start plugging away...


  181. Fred Says:

    The sad thing is that this man lost two elections and still is residing in 1600 Pennsylvania.
    Every American should bow their head in shame for letting this happen.

    Comment by jerseyboyblue

    yeah, it's funny but not in a good way that an unelected....appointed resident could be causing us so much heartache isn't it....The rest of the world is being patient with us....waiting for us to correct our mistakes.


  182. Gregor Samsa Says:

    Comment by gummitch — January 21, 2008 @ 12:45 am

    Yep, definitely not new at ThinkProgress. More like a troll we all already know and who is in need of a social life.


  183. Zooey Says:

    I happen to have seen that thread. JPark didn’t hide who he was.
    The troll is lying. What a shock, I know.
    Comment by Gregor Samsa — January 21, 2008 @ 1:00 am

    SHOCKED!! :-D


  184. gummitch Says:

    I was directing that question to Zooey.

    Comment by justasking — January 21, 2008 @ 1:03 am

    You believe you're in control? You can't even control your own bladder.


  185. Zooey Says:

    No, no, gummitch.

    I was directing that question to Zooey.

    Comment by justasking — January 21, 2008 @ 1:03 am

    Asked and answered, shithead.


  186. Fred Says:

    You use two or three tabs with you post. All with different names.

    Comment by justasking

    Man, your are as delusional as you are duplicitous.....a little paranoid too...
    What the hell would I do with more than one name? Seriously you little shit for brains....you trolls do it to be sneaky and then you forget who the hell you are pretending to be.....sad little monkey.


  187. gummitch Says:

    As noted above, "justasking" is obsessed with Zooey.

    Such a familiar aroma, the smell of day-old Depends mixed with Fritos.

    Zooey, you owe me a fried pie.


  188. Gregor Samsa Says:

    Mr. Pee complaining about lack of honesty is like Pres Bush criticising someone else's rhetorical skills...


  189. RUCerious Says:

    I've been to two MLK events, and am going to another tomorrow, why are you stalking Zooey?


  190. Gregor Samsa Says:

    Comment by Fred — January 21, 2008 @ 1:07 am

    It's called projection, Fred. It's the little game this troll plays...


  191. Zooey Says:

    Zooey, you owe me a fried pie.
    Comment by gummitch — January 21, 2008 @ 1:07 am

    What's your favorite fruit filling? ;)


  192. gummitch Says:

    I'm thinking peach.


  193. Fred Says:

    justaskin....you understand that you are the butt of every joke we tell when we see actual real human beings during the day and discuss politics and blogs, etc. you are used as a metaphor for the white stuff you get out of boils and other vile things....I'm pretty sure your social life is....well us. And so the only people you know despise you.


  194. Shayne Says:

    Nobody is talking to you about MLK or anything else. We're talking about you. See the difference, troll?


  195. RUCerious Says:

    Mmmmm, Peach pie....Mmmmm


  196. gummitch Says:

    And so the only people you know despise you.

    Comment by Fred — January 21, 2008 @ 1:11 am

    There's always the pizza delivery guy. I would guess he's reasonably supportive, as long as he gets paid. And the poor bastard doing talk radio in the middle of the night who doesn't have the option of simply hanging up.


  197. RUCerious Says:

    JustBrayin, when you can explain why you're stalking Zooey, I 'll tell you all about the MLK celebrations at BCC and our local Democratic Party HQ.


  198. gummitch Says:

    Mmmmm, Peach pie….Mmmmm

    Comment by RUCerious — January 21, 2008 @ 1:13 am

    Peach cobbler on a river trip, baked next to the fire, amplified herbally. It was life-affirming, actually.


  199. Gregor Samsa Says:

    Ah, now the troll thinks he can dictate what the rest of us talk about or not.

    Delusional? Substance abuse? Both?

    What do you think?


  200. Zooey Says:

    I’m thinking peach.
    Comment by gummitch — January 21, 2008 @ 1:11 am

    Im-peach fried pie, next time I see ya.


  201. Shayne Says:

    Everybody always liked JPark. When the new registration kicked in Faiz saved the names for some regular posters and people were having trouble registering their own names because they didn't know about it. JPark was too nice and felt sympathiy to justapainintheass and this is the thanks somebody gets for being nice to it. It was pretending to be a misunderstood female. Funny how good it was at pretending to be a little girl, almost like it comes naturally.


  202. Shayne Says:

    I live in a city that has parades and everything else you dumb hick. We don't all live in a trailer park in shitsville you know. Know you wouldn't know would you?


  203. Zooey Says:

    Ah, now the troll thinks he can dictate what the rest of us talk about or not.

    Delusional? Substance abuse? Both?

    What do you think?

    Comment by Gregor Samsa — January 21, 2008 @ 1:16 am

    Extreme loneliness, rejection by peers, bi-polar, obsessive-compulsive, yada yada...


  204. Shayne Says:

    Justajag thinks he's dictating topics around here. What a fool.


  205. Fred Says:

    I'm starting to think that places like this are just too open to people like justasking.....you know the ones that have genuine mental problems. I am getting really tired of dealing with it....it's been a long weekend of just insane people dealing the cards here......may not be for me.


  206. gummitch Says:

    As entertaining as it might be to play a game of kick the troll in the alley, I must bid y'all a fond adieu. I've got better things to do than puff up its sense of importance. In fact, I can feel a gusty fart coming on and that's clearly of greater significance than its zooey-stalking.

    Sorry, troll, but nothing you can do will make you a cool kid. Obsessing about women you'll never meet is probably something better done at pr0n sites. Or drag your mom back from the parking lot at 7/11 and demand some attention.


  207. Zooey Says:

    ……may not be for me.
    Comment by Fred — January 21, 2008 @ 1:23 am

    Come by the Zoo anytime, Fred.


  208. Shayne Says:

    Flag the troll. He's what ruined TP the last time Fred, they'll get rid of him again.


  209. Fred Says:

    ……may not be for me.
    Comment by Fred — January 21, 2008 @ 1:23 am

    Come by the Zoo anytime, Fred.

    Comment by Zooey

    I have a link.....just may do that.....

    hey troll....how do you type with one hand.....I know you have your thumb in your mouth.


  210. Fred Says:

    Flag the troll. He’s what ruined TP the last time Fred, they’ll get rid of him again.

    Comment by Shayne

    I reported the abuse earlier....with a few notes....that's it for me tonight...take care all.


  211. Zooey Says:

    I have a link…..just may do that…..

    hey troll….how do you type with one hand…..I know you have your thumb in your mouth.

    Comment by Fred — January 21, 2008 @ 1:32 am

    Just click on my name, and you're there. :-)

    Come on, Fred....we know what he's doing with the other hand.....


  212. Gregor Samsa Says:

    For some time now, I have wondered if being such a loser comes naturally to Mr. P or if he had to study it; you know, maybe there is an online troll university somewhere out there that teaches you how to behave like a fathead, both online and in person.

    Or maybe it just runs in his family....


  213. Lefty Patriot Says:

    so, justassing is still around. I was hoping the cancer would do its job.

    Just another lie from justaliar.


  214. wisedup Says:

    Zooey is bringing a jackass to her blog, and it looks like juststupid is it.....


  215. republicans hate facts Says:

    All Zooey brings to her blog is herself.
    Comment by justasking — January 21, 2008 @ 1:52 am

    All justasking brings to ANY blog, is ITS consistently WRONG assessments of REALITY ;) Poor STUPID LITTLE TROLL! ;)


  216. republicans hate facts Says:

    But go ahead. I know how you enjoy showing your hate.
    Comment by justasking — January 21, 2008 @ 1:47 am

    ROTFL!!! HYSTERICAL Projection from the HATEMONGER!! ROTFL!!!


  217. green Says:

    Greetings all - long time no post. Let's not let nonsensical posters derail this thread. Stand up to the bullies by not giving them the attention they so desire.

    Back on topic - what can the likes of dubya do in one year? Unfortunately a lot. He and his ilk have already pretty much destroyed this once great country - just imagine what they will do for an encore! We are walking into a major economic depression the likes of which makes 1929 look like child's play.

    Let's be good to each other - let's restore what we have lost. Americans used to care -- and these monsters have demanded that we consume, consume, consume ---- ad nauseum. Let's return to our caring natures.

    Just a thought..........


  218. RUCerious Says:

    Good post green. I think that getting back to a quality vs quantity mindset would be an essential step.
    If we always need more cheap stuff, we play right into the corporatists handbook.
    If we focus on quality, locally grown food and the like, it'll be a good start to a new mentality.

    BTW, don't mind the mental case barking at you. It is just desperate for attention.


  219. green Says:

    Hey JA - I see you as a bully and some other starved for attention freak -- that is my perception. I read TP daily - I know who is real and who is not. You ask me questions that have no relevance. The thread is lamenting one year left of an ignoramus that you probably voted for - and are probably attempting to defend in a passive/aggressive way. America is done with the likes of you and yours. Sorry. Move on.


  220. green Says:

    Thanks RUC -- I appreciate your thoughtful contributions.


  221. alphainfinityomega Says:

    justasking:

    YOU ROCK !!
    Give those self righteous "regulars" Hell.
    Let 'em moderate their own stinking (1000 hits a day, lol, haha) Zoo.

    ∞


  222. SP Biloxi Says:

    Forget noon. Can the Pottersville-in-chief leave at the stroke of midnight on January 20, 2009? When Bush is kicked to the curb from the White House next year, I hope someone will hand him his Congressional War Medal and indictment papers for war crimes out the door.


  223. alphainfinityomega Says:

    Hey justasking:

    Did you notice that Barmaid Shayne doesn't know how to spell 'here' (hear).
    She must be drunk blogging again after a busy busy work night down at the neighborhood bar and grill.
    What a greaser.

    ∞


  224. green Says:

    SP - I agree. The problem we have is warrentless wiretapping which include the democratic congress. They have been wiretapped like the rest of us "enemy combatants" -- and they have decided to preserve their jobs rather than our constitution and our nation. They all need to step down if they can't take the heat. We're in trouble people -- big ass trouble..........


  225. Zooey Says:

    What a greaser.
    ∞
    Comment by alphainfinityomega — January 21, 2008 @ 3:02 am

    I had no idea you were a hateful racist.

    I learn something new everyday....


  226. Zooey Says:

    Comment by green — January 21, 2008 @ 3:05 am

    Don't forget the VP "search" conducted by Cheney, before he chose himself. He had many in Congress fill out questionnaires about potential skeletons in their closets that might be embarrassing in a political campaign, etc., then chose himself -- and kept all the dirt!


  227. green Says:

    Hi Zooey - yes indeed! And Pelosi and Conyers got all quiet all of a sudden too -- huh? Where's the dirt? Remember when this deal about Conyers came up a couple of years ago? You see what we are dealing with. I enjoy your posts -- keep up the good work!


  228. alphainfinityomega Says:

    I had no idea you were a hateful racist.
    Comment by Zooey

    Racist, Maude? Where in the world did you get that?
    Must be a slow night (per usual) at the Zoo.
    Stop drunk blogging

    ∞


  229. Zooey Says:

    Thanks, green. You are a fine addition to TP's comment section. I think about Cheney's "search" every time I get infuriated about the Dems being such lap dogs. I imagine Cheney crossed the aisle in his very thorough search for a suitable VP candidate, and he snagged himself some nice info on them.

    What this country needs are Congress members who love this country and ideals set up by the Founding Fathers, more than they love their damn jobs!


  230. Zooey Says:

    Comment by alphainfinityomega — January 21, 2008 @ 3:24 am

    Well, when you call someone a greaser, that makes you a racist. Deal with it.


  231. green Says:

    Zooey - our founders never wanted to be presidents - they were chosen by the people and the people believed. We The People need to choose our president (follower of the people) rather than the ongoing popularity contest brought to us by MSM. It's all about the money............... our founders roll in their graves...........so sad, but all is not lost. Let's stay true to who we are no matter what happens.


  232. alphainfinityomega Says:

    Oh, I get it, you must mean the movie 'Grease'.
    Or the alcohol that must be greasing your wheels right now.
    Or is it that downtrodden race of greasers from some where else.
    I don't get it, Maude; what race of people do YOU consider 'greasers'?

    ∞


  233. alphainfinityomega Says:

    - our founders never wanted to be presidents - they were chosen by the people and the people believed.
    Comment by green

    Malarkey !!
    They were 'chosen' because they had more muskets and cannon.

    ∞


  234. alphainfinityomega Says:

    I'd like to commend 'justasking' for singlehandedly stomping on the "regulars".

    ∞


  235. green Says:

    Obviously some things are worth responding to and some are not. Some believe in truth and some hold to Orwellian non-logic; some belittle and some uphold; some destroy and some create. Who are we?


  236. alphainfinityomega Says:

    Comment by green

    Looks like ole Kermit here thinks he's a deep thinker.
    Soooo profound, you'll fit right in at the Zoo.

    ∞


  237. green Says:

    Alph - you are just plain mean -- you have no reason for being. You can't hurt me because you are a hateful meaningless person. I hope that you heal -- and become someone better than you are...

    There are people in this world who THINK and ask QUESTIONS -- try it, it won't hurt too much.

    Good night -- peace be with you..........



  238. alphainfinityomega Says:

    Good night — peace be with you……….

    Comment by green

    Ahh, shut up !!

    ∞


  239. ccokz Says:

    FTSE @5703,20 -198,50 - 3,36%
    DAX @6951,81 -362,36 - 4,95%
    cac @4881,71 -210,69 - 4,14%

    markets tilting away-Crash imminent

    markets negative


  240. Perry logan Says:

    THE BUSH LEGACY:

    60-foot list of scandals
    first cokehead in the White House
    first National Guard deserter
    first convicted criminal
    lost more jobs in his first year than any President in history
    broke more international treaties than any in history
    lowest job growth in American history
    more debt than all previous President's combined
    first administration to out a CIA agent for partisan reasons
    largest worldwide protests against the Iraq War
    presided over the worst terror attack in world history
    first President since the Civil War to lose an American city
    spying on his people more than any administration since Stalin
    first President to use a wire
    first President on antidepressants (& God know what else)
    more vacation time than any other (which is a blessing for the country, really)
    Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in U.S. history. Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12 month period.
    Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.
    Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any president in U.S. history.
    Presided over the biggest energy crises in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.
    Presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
    Cut health-care benefits for war veterans.
    The most secretive and unaccountable of any administration in U.S. history.
    Presided over the biggest corporate stock market frauds of any market in any country in the history of the world.
    Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.
    Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in U.S. history.
    Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in U.S. history.
    All-time U.S. (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.
    First president to run and hide when the U.S. came under attack.
    First President to have a male hooker lob softball questions at press conferences.
    First President to destroy his party forever.

    And so on.


  241. nolo Says:

    erh -- not to be a piker
    or anything, but technically,
    today, the 21st, one year from
    now -- begins the new regime in
    the united states of america
    .

    you could look it up.

    the 20th is bush's last day;
    the 21st is our first day.


  242. dixie blood Says:

    Comment by Perry logan — January 21, 2008 @ 7:41 am

    I like your list. You could add the following:

    Started construction of the largest, most useless embassy in the world in Irag.
    Presided over more mining deaths and injuries than any modern president.
    Built the largest, most ineffective, security agency in the world: DHS.
    Weakened the US Military to historic lows.
    Destroyed the DoJ and the credibility of the federal courts.
    The first to use the EPA to poison the public.
    Allowed his USDA to kill Amiercans with tainted food.
    Allowed his FDA to poison, kill, and overcharge Americans for their drugs.


  243. katy Says:

    It would be sad if anybody cared about this person, but alas, nobody does.
    Comment by Shayne — January 21, 2008 @ 12:36 am

    really???
    nothin' personal, shayne, and the rest, but if you want to sent a
    "don't care" message, you should IGNORE it...

    lawd... that sounded like 7th grade back there...

    it's the "michael?" trooll... "just asking" being a huge clue...
    not to mention the stalking...

    but really - why in the world would any of you engage it? ...
    very weak... and embarrassing... "ThinkProgress", uh huh...
    ...


  244. Ditch Mitch KY Says:

    1/20/09 at 12:00 Noon EST -- Praise the Lord.

    But, he must be impeached -- after Cheney -- for High Crimes against our Constitution. Or we have no Constitution.


  245. alphainfinityomega Says:

    ...it just breaks it down into a “club”.
    Comment by justasking

    That's about it, ja, they should stay down there and skank up their own Zoo.

    ∞


  246. Buckie Boy Says:

    A year is a long time, and the Repukian ChristoFascist haven't completed their list of evil deeds yet.

    Bush/Cheney
    Hague Trials '09

    Buck Fush


  247. Zooey Says:

    Comment by justasking — January 21, 2008 @ 1:22 pm

    Tiny, miserable, insignificant, impotent, inadequate, liar.

    You must have a very hollow life. The others may dislike you, but I just feel sorry for you.


  248. Zooey Says:

    Comment by justasking — January 21, 2008 @ 2:21 pm

    People like you need to be called on their bullshit. In your tiny desperate world, if we say nothing, your shit is true -- and if we respond, your shit is true.

    You're not here to learn. You're not here to contribute. You're here to try to gain some sort of sick feeling of superiority, for how knows what reason, and you make thinly veiled threats about keeping our comments in your "database."

    You're a loser, plain and simple.


  249. Shayne Says:

    Yeah…now they’re trying to get rid of Plunger on the other thread. Doing the piling on technique.

    Comment by justasking — January 21, 2008 @ 1:43 pm

    Many of us support plunger just like we have at many times supported Bartlebee. You are nothing like them. Every argument Bartlebee had was initiated by him. If he in fact "asked" to be deleted it was to save himself from embarassment, not "regulars". Don't let the truth get in the way of your trolling though justasking, you Republicans never do.


  250. Zooey Says:

    No, it's you who don't get it.

    Others are not responding to you because this is a dead thread. There is no "regular" clique, except in your own mind. You've created a hierarchy on TP, building up the "regulars" into some mythical powerful group -- and then excluded yourself.

    Waaahhhh, go feel sorry for yourself -- no one else does.


  251. smgumby Says:

    I feel sorry for justasking, and zooey, and everyone who wasted time reading the previous exchange.


  252. Impolitics Says:

    Bart was asked, by Faiz, to stop the personal personal slander of people who simply, and politely, expressed differing opinions. Including myself. He also had a nasty habit of lying to support his ridiculous attacks. Here's a brief excerpt from two emails Faiz sent to me:

    I've made clear to bartlebee that he needs to show greater respect for those who disagree with him. If he doesn't change his behavior, I'll take action.

    Bartlebee has suggested to me that he does not want to comply with my request to be more civil, so I have banned him for the time being.

    Trolls will simply accuse me of lying, however, reasonable people who have read my posts know I don't lie. Rather than accounting for his behavior Bart "took his ball and went home". Good riddance and long overdue in my opinion.


  253. Buckie Boy Says:

    There is nothing objective about your thinking, Southern Scum.

    Buck Fush


  254. Lefty Patriot Says:

    We add what is missing, objective thinking.

    Comment by Southern Man — January 21, 2008 @ 3:22 pm

    Brainwashing of the type you have succumbed to is hardly objective thinking. If you don't see Bush as the worst president in US history, then you are the unthinking, lockstep one agreeing with a small percentage of likewise deluded people. The trolls that show up here possess only talking points and lies, that's the problem; not that the regulars won't engage them. One can't engage willfully stupid, blind loyalists, as you prove, repeatedly.


  255. dixie blood Says:

    Comment by justasking — January 21, 2008 @ 1:22 pm

    LIAR!


  256. dixie blood Says:

    George W. Bush won both elections according to the procedures laid out by the U.S. Constitution.

    Comment by O. Bigfoot — January 21, 2008 @ 1:37 pm

    LIAR!! ASSH0LE AND TR0LL!!


  257. dixie blood Says:

    Comment by Southern Man — January 21, 2008 @ 3:22 pm

    LIAR!

    Y'all do not respond to this useless, peckerwood, racist troll!!

    Please ignore this sh\thead...troll...


  258. Shayne Says:

    Yep, what dixie blood said! Spot on.


  259. dbadass Says:

    Does the club have a secret knock and handshake?


  260. Lefty Patriot Says:

    Actually, SCOTUS violated the constitution by handing '00 to Bush. it's quite clear; the US Supreme Court should have been tried for treason, along with Karl Rove, and the whole bunch hanged.


  261. Brain From Planet Arous Says:

    George W. Bush won both elections according to the procedures laid out by the U.S. Constitution.

    Comment by O. Bigfoot — January 21, 2008 @ 1:37 pm

    Where in the Constitution does it say the Supreme Court can elect a president?


  262. dixie blood Says:

    Actually, SCOTUS violated the constitution by handing ‘00 to Bush. it’s quite clear; the US Supreme Court should have been tried for treason, along with Karl Rove, and the whole bunch hanged.

    Comment by Lefty Patriot — January 21, 2008 @ 5:27 pm

    Read "The Nine: Inside The Secret World of the Supreme Court" and you will see that Sandra Day O'Conner caved and phu(ked us all! She went RePugniScum instead of fair play, counting the vote in FL or just deferring to the popular vote. SHE VOTED PARTY!!! SHE VOTED REPUGNISCUM and NOT FAIR PLAY OR THE LAW!!

    Just read the book...


  263. dixie blood Says:

    Errata:

    Written by Jeffery Toobin.


  264. republicans hate facts Says:

    There is nothing objective about your thinking, Southern Scum.
    Buck Fush
    Comment by Buckie Boy — January 21, 2008 @ 3:42 pm
    Thank you Buckie.
    Comment by Southern Man — January 21, 2008 @ 3:55 pm

    Just HYSTERICAL to watch someone who's TOO STUPID to know WHEN and HOW he's been INSULTED, but ARROGANT ENOUGH to think HE HAS THE ANSWERS!! ROTFL, you TARDS are DUMB! That's what you get for being the 'fruit' of a ONE BRANCH FAMILY TREE! ;)



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