Comments on: Pentagon Report On ‘Real Toll’ Of Iraq War: 1 In 5 Vets Are Affected By ‘Mild Traumatic Brain Injuries’ http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:29:28 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: I. B. Leary http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/comment-page-2/#comment-4237779 I. B. Leary Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:36:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/#comment-4237779 #29 As someone who has suffered from blasts of naval cannon fire from the bridge in '68 I would like to say: #29 As someone who has suffered from blasts of naval cannon fire from the bridge in '68 I would like to say, dane bramage is possilble. #29 As someone who has suffered from blasts of naval cannon fire from the bridge in ‘68 I would like to say:

#29 As someone who has suffered from blasts of naval cannon fire from the bridge in ‘68 I would like to say, dane bramage is possilble.

]]> By: FearandSmear http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/comment-page-2/#comment-4237106 FearandSmear Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:35:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/#comment-4237106 The Modern Bush Republicanâ„¢ thinks "mild brain trauma" proves that the surge is working... The Modern Bush Republicanâ„¢ supports the troops by marginalizing their injuries and abandoning their care as soon as they are no longer useful in the "surge". www.FEARandSMEAR.com The Modern Bush Republicanâ„¢ thinks “mild brain trauma” proves that the surge is working…

The Modern Bush Republicanâ„¢ supports the troops by marginalizing their injuries and abandoning their care as soon as they are no longer useful in the “surge”.

http://www.FEARandSMEAR.com

]]> By: Doc Rock http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/comment-page-2/#comment-4237044 Doc Rock Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:38:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/#comment-4237044 Because of the Cheney-Bush administration-long "starve the beast" attack on the US Treasury to destroy Social Security and other entitlement programs, there will never be money to help these victims of their war of vengeance and their gross incompetence! A cowardly draft-dodger and a protected-AWOL have ruined so many lives! Because of the Cheney-Bush administration-long “starve the beast” attack on the US Treasury to destroy Social Security and other entitlement programs, there will never be money to help these victims of their war of vengeance and their gross incompetence! A cowardly draft-dodger and a protected-AWOL have ruined so many lives!

]]> By: somegirl http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/comment-page-2/#comment-4236580 somegirl Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:24:56 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/#comment-4236580 as someone who has suffered with a mild traumatic brain injury for 9 years, i need to chime in here. it's no joke. the term "mild" refers to the original trauma, and has no bearing on the severity of the symptoms. a person can be totally disabled with terrible symptoms from a mild injury. there is a huge range of possible symptoms, many which may be relatively mild individually but taken together make life a living hell. i recently went to a new neurologist after giving up treatment out of frustration. i spent 2 hours with him and we still didn't cover all my symptoms. it's insane how complicated it gets. in addition, often there are no tests sensitive enough to measure the symptoms and mri's will be normal. very little is still known about these injuries and there is little to no effective treatment. i actually had a hope that these injuries might be taken seriously once this news about the soldiers started coming out. but i don't hold out hope for that anymore. they'll just be drugged up and told to get over it instead of real research and treatment being offered. maybe the only treatment available would be support and therapy for the anxiety that comes with a brain that doesn't work like it used to, but it's better than nothing. the suicides will continue to climb long after the troops come home for from this alone. as someone who has suffered with a mild traumatic brain injury for 9 years, i need to chime in here.

it’s no joke.

the term “mild” refers to the original trauma, and has no bearing on the severity of the symptoms. a person can be totally disabled with terrible symptoms from a mild injury.

there is a huge range of possible symptoms, many which may be relatively mild individually but taken together make life a living hell. i recently went to a new neurologist after giving up treatment out of frustration. i spent 2 hours with him and we still didn’t cover all my symptoms. it’s insane how complicated it gets. in addition, often there are no tests sensitive enough to measure the symptoms and mri’s will be normal. very little is still known about these injuries and there is little to no effective treatment.

i actually had a hope that these injuries might be taken seriously once this news about the soldiers started coming out. but i don’t hold out hope for that anymore. they’ll just be drugged up and told to get over it instead of real research and treatment being offered. maybe the only treatment available would be support and therapy for the anxiety that comes with a brain that doesn’t work like it used to, but it’s better than nothing.

the suicides will continue to climb long after the troops come home for from this alone.

]]> By: Nevar http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/comment-page-2/#comment-4236556 Nevar Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:05:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/#comment-4236556 Then where do our trolls come from? <em>Entry level volunteers at the College of Proctology.</em> Then where do our trolls come from?

Entry level volunteers at the College of Proctology.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/comment-page-2/#comment-4236540 Lefty Patriot Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:55:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/#comment-4236540 Well, medically speaking all head injuries are serious. I’ve never heard of a mild traumatic head injury. Comment by dietrich — January 20, 2008 @ 6:12 pm Oh Yeah? Then where do our trolls come from? Well, medically speaking all head injuries are serious. I’ve never heard of a mild traumatic head injury.

Comment by dietrich — January 20, 2008 @ 6:12 pm

Oh Yeah? Then where do our trolls come from?

]]> By: Jackie http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/comment-page-2/#comment-4236518 Jackie Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:35:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/#comment-4236518 Like any American really cares about the number of injured soldiers are coming home with. Look after Americans saw how badly the soldiers were treated at Walter Reed Hospital nothing has improved. Soldiers are still being killed in Iraq not a word of a complaint by Americans. Iraq is giving 2 Billion dollars a day not a word from Americans. We have 200,000 soldiers homeless right now in the USA not a word from the American people just the lip service of stay the course and support our troops. If Americans care about our troops in any way they would stand up and stop this mess. Now the Bush Administration is giving jobs and medical help to Iraq, because that's more important. Like any American really cares about the number of injured soldiers are coming home with. Look after Americans saw how badly the soldiers were treated at Walter Reed Hospital nothing has improved. Soldiers are still being killed in Iraq not a word of a complaint by Americans. Iraq is giving 2 Billion dollars a day not a word from Americans. We have 200,000 soldiers homeless right now in the USA not a word from the American people just the lip service of stay the course and support our troops. If Americans care about our troops in any way they would stand up and stop this mess. Now the Bush Administration is giving jobs and medical help to Iraq, because that’s more important.

]]> By: dietrich http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/comment-page-2/#comment-4236429 dietrich Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:12:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/#comment-4236429 Well, medically speaking all head injuries are serious. I've never heard of a mild traumatic head injury. Well, medically speaking all head injuries are serious. I’ve never heard of a mild traumatic head injury.

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/comment-page-2/#comment-4236317 MapleStreet Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:34:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/#comment-4236317 To argue with the NeoCons, this has to be translated into dollars. Wonder how many folks this translates into and what the average cost will be to support them. As a rough figure, I don't have the number of troops, but 1 million each for support, lost wages, etc is a nice line item for Traumatic brain injury. Of course, other line items include PTSD, mental disorders, drug use, domestic violence, etc All things that make America the great country that it is. To argue with the NeoCons, this has to be translated into dollars. Wonder how many folks this translates into and what the average cost will be to support them. As a rough figure, I don’t have the number of troops, but 1 million each for support, lost wages, etc is a nice line item for Traumatic brain injury.

Of course, other line items include PTSD, mental disorders, drug use, domestic violence, etc All things that make America the great country that it is.

]]> By: VerbalKint http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/comment-page-2/#comment-4236272 VerbalKint Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:01:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/#comment-4236272 I see that Frank has been puking on this thread. Frank is one of the stupidest trolls ever. I have labored mightily to explain the facts about single-payer health care systems to it, but it just doesn't get it. One thing is for sure, though: it can't or won't read a dictionary, as evidenced by its repeated misuse of the term socialism. As for JK, I find its comments comforting. It gives me succor to know that the koolaid drinkers have no idea whatsoever what is going to befall their party in November. I see that Frank has been puking on this thread. Frank is one of the stupidest trolls ever. I have labored mightily to explain the facts about single-payer health care systems to it, but it just doesn’t get it. One thing is for sure, though: it can’t or won’t read a dictionary, as evidenced by its repeated misuse of the term socialism.

As for JK, I find its comments comforting. It gives me succor to know that the koolaid drinkers have no idea whatsoever what is going to befall their party in November.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/comment-page-2/#comment-4236230 Lefty Patriot Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:37:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/#comment-4236230 JK would like everybody to forget the disaster-in-chief, but if the Dems are smart enough to run against him, they'll win every race in a landslide. JK would like everybody to forget the disaster-in-chief, but if the Dems are smart enough to run against him, they’ll win every race in a landslide.

]]> By: stovob http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/comment-page-2/#comment-4236158 stovob Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:56:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/#comment-4236158 Maybe I've become too cynical, but does anyone else see the big pharma companies flooding the airwaves with the "new" miracle drug for this? Anyway it is a shame people don't realize that casualties are not just dead bodies or amputees. I shudder at the true number of casualties on our side and especially the Iraqi side. Maybe I’ve become too cynical, but does anyone else see the big pharma companies flooding the airwaves with the “new” miracle drug for this?

Anyway it is a shame people don’t realize that casualties are not just dead bodies or amputees. I shudder at the true number of casualties on our side and especially the Iraqi side.

]]> By: Sue Cauler http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/comment-page-2/#comment-4236102 Sue Cauler Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:50:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/#comment-4236102 If you're not too busy later today I recommend that you listen to Fed Up Americans blog talk radio show at 4pm CST. (click on my name and then on radio show on right side) I'm calling in with a report from Iraq. (about 5pm CST) I'm not in Iraq but my friend who is a trauma nurse with the U.S. Airforce is. You'll be shocked by what I've learned about recent events in Iraq's hospitals. My report comes directly from my friend and you will be shocked and appauled. You want the truth? I've got it and its shocking. If you’re not too busy later today I recommend that you listen to Fed Up Americans blog talk radio show at 4pm CST. (click on my name and then on radio show on right side)

I’m calling in with a report from Iraq. (about 5pm CST) I’m not in Iraq but my friend who is a trauma nurse with the U.S. Airforce is.

You’ll be shocked by what I’ve learned about recent events in Iraq’s hospitals. My report comes directly from my friend and you will be shocked and appauled.

You want the truth? I’ve got it and its shocking.

]]> By: americangoy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/comment-page-2/#comment-4236090 americangoy Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:30:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/#comment-4236090 Well, America will be number 1! Number 1! Number 1! Number 1! Number 1! Number 1! ...in the homeless population in the 'Western' world... Well, America will be number 1!

Number 1!
Number 1!
Number 1!
Number 1!
Number 1!

…in the homeless population in the ‘Western’ world…

]]> By: Badger http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/comment-page-2/#comment-4236087 Badger Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:27:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/#comment-4236087 Katy I remember seeing Cher on c-span over a year ago, using her celebrity status to get donations for Operation Helmet. I can't believe that everyone over there doesn't have them by now. Well ...I guess I can believe it...but it is disgracefull incompetence in my opinion. Save a few bucks on helmet liners.....lose a fortune in future medical costs....not to mention the cost in people's lives and health. Katy I remember seeing Cher on c-span over a year ago, using her celebrity status to get donations for Operation Helmet. I can’t believe that everyone over there doesn’t have them by now. Well …I guess I can believe it…but it is disgracefull incompetence in my opinion.

Save a few bucks on helmet liners…..lose a fortune in future medical costs….not to mention the cost in people’s lives and health.

]]> By: singe_101 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/comment-page-1/#comment-4236076 singe_101 Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:13:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/#comment-4236076 No. 37 Hey now, let's not get into socialized medicine. That's up to the soldiers and their doctors, personal responsibility and freedom. Besides, how could the government afford to give out aspirin? But they will dispense more spin... ass-spin. No. 37

Hey now, let’s not get into socialized medicine. That’s up to the soldiers and their doctors, personal responsibility and freedom. Besides, how could the government afford to give out aspirin?

But they will dispense more spin… ass-spin.

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/comment-page-1/#comment-4236074 dbadass Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:12:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/#comment-4236074 We’d have socialized health care (want to queue for months for a simple operation? [blah, blah, blah…]” Comment by Frank M You mean that elective surgery right? Show me any citizen of any socilaized system who has been denied timely urgent care We’d have socialized health care (want to queue for months for a simple operation? [blah, blah, blah…]”

Comment by Frank M

You mean that elective surgery right? Show me any citizen of any socilaized system who has been denied timely urgent care

]]> By: barfly http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/comment-page-1/#comment-4236073 barfly Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:11:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/#comment-4236073 "We’d have socialized health care (want to queue for months for a simple operation? [blah, blah, blah...]" Comment by Frank M I had a blown knee, and my american insurance company waited to grant me an operation for three months. That's three months, hobbling around at work on crutches, before they decided I wasn't faking. “We’d have socialized health care (want to queue for months for a simple operation? [blah, blah, blah...]”

Comment by Frank M

I had a blown knee, and my american insurance company waited to grant me an operation for three months. That’s three months, hobbling around at work on crutches, before they decided I wasn’t faking.

]]> By: Nevar http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/comment-page-1/#comment-4236071 Nevar Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:08:00 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/#comment-4236071 HELMETS! why aren’t each and every person in any kind of combat situation supplied with those helmet liners??? huh??? ! Comment by katy <em>They're on backorder, Blackwater greased a few palms and gets preference.</em> HELMETS! why aren’t each and every person in any kind of combat situation supplied with those helmet liners???

huh??? !

Comment by katy

They’re on backorder, Blackwater greased a few palms and gets preference.

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/comment-page-1/#comment-4236070 dbadass Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:06:59 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/20/iraq-brain-trauma/#comment-4236070 What gives? I am allowed to say "burning dickhead" but not allowed to point out that thye number of beheaded US citizens is so small as to equal zero under JK version of importance of stats What gives? I am allowed to say “burning dickhead” but not allowed to point out that thye number of beheaded US citizens is so small as to equal zero under JK version of importance of stats

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