Comments on: Army wants to cut war tours to 12 months. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:23:51 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: mdbyrne http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4240788 mdbyrne Thu, 24 Jan 2008 03:57:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/#comment-4240788 Everyone that is there right now and every that leaves between now and August will be stuck with 15 month tours. If you leave after August you'll start doing 14 months and less is the way the plan is looking. It always winds up being worse than the press release because the original headline is the only one the American public will remember and it is the only one that will get reported. It will barely get a mention when this plan goes completely down the tube when the violence flares up again in Bahgdad. This is the information operation (public affairs) to soften the reality of what is really going to open. Everyone that is there right now and every that leaves between now and August will be stuck with 15 month tours. If you leave after August you’ll start doing 14 months and less is the way the plan is looking. It always winds up being worse than the press release because the original headline is the only one the American public will remember and it is the only one that will get reported. It will barely get a mention when this plan goes completely down the tube when the violence flares up again in Bahgdad.
This is the information operation (public affairs) to soften the reality of what is really going to open.

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4240762 MapleStreet Thu, 24 Jan 2008 03:38:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/#comment-4240762 34. Walt the Man, 12 months vacation between years is what we already have with all the vacations that Bush takes. Sorry, but you made it so easy., 34. Walt the Man, 12 months vacation between years is what we already have with all the vacations that Bush takes.

Sorry, but you made it so easy.,

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4240567 WaltTheMan Thu, 24 Jan 2008 00:14:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/#comment-4240567 What about limiting presidential terms to 12 months with a required 12 month rest period and no term limits, unless the current president receives 2/3s of the national, not electoral, vote? Also require that the VP's place of residence be based on at least 2 years in the same state immediately prior to the national election. What about limiting presidential terms to 12 months with a required 12 month rest period and no term limits, unless the current president receives 2/3s of the national, not electoral, vote? Also require that the VP’s place of residence be based on at least 2 years in the same state immediately prior to the national election.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4240352 Lefty Patriot Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:23:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/#comment-4240352 rank M is the old Jake? I’m being waaaay to nice to that ass. Comment by Bobwurst — January 23, 2008 @ 5:13 pm being nice to any fascist (frank is an admitted fascist) is counterproductive. they should all get the Mussolini treatment. rank M is the old Jake? I’m being waaaay to nice to that ass.

Comment by Bobwurst — January 23, 2008 @ 5:13 pm

being nice to any fascist (frank is an admitted fascist) is counterproductive. they should all get the Mussolini treatment.

]]> By: Bobwurst http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4240328 Bobwurst Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:13:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/#comment-4240328 frank M is the old Jake? I'm being waaaay to nice to that ass. frank M is the old Jake? I’m being waaaay to nice to that ass.

]]> By: gummitch http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4240224 gummitch Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:25:00 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/#comment-4240224 <em>#8: You seem to lack appreciation for the voluntary nature of our armed forces. But then again one can expect that attitude from a leftist who embraces the idea of people having to pay taxes (ie. someone else’s bills) at a gunpoint. Comment by Frank M — January 23, 2008 @ 3:25 pm</em> Coming from the professed fascist who refuses to volunteer for service, this irony on irony. Fascists throw contracts out whenever the result doesn't suit them. #8: You seem to lack appreciation for the voluntary nature of our armed forces. But then again one can expect that attitude from a leftist who embraces the idea of people having to pay taxes (ie. someone else’s bills) at a gunpoint.

Comment by Frank M — January 23, 2008 @ 3:25 pm

Coming from the professed fascist who refuses to volunteer for service, this irony on irony. Fascists throw contracts out whenever the result doesn’t suit them.

]]> By: zuch http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4240205 zuch Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:16:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/#comment-4240205 "I've got good news and bad news." "What's the good news?" "We'll cut battlefield rotations from 15 months to 12 months." "So what's the <i>bad</i> news?" "Now you'll have to do <i>four</i> rotations...." Cheers, “I’ve got good news and bad news.”

“What’s the good news?”

“We’ll cut battlefield rotations from 15 months to 12 months.”

“So what’s the bad news?”

“Now you’ll have to do four rotations….”

Cheers,

]]> By: DRxJ http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4240188 DRxJ Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:01:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/#comment-4240188 <em>But then again one can expect that attitude from a leftist who embraces the idea of people having to pay taxes (ie. someone else’s bills) at a gunpoint. Comment by Frank M (Jake) </em> so sayeth the person who ripped off an honorable Vet of the North Korea War bio as his own! eh shakey jake (or dale)? But then again one can expect that attitude from a leftist who embraces the idea of people having to pay taxes (ie. someone else’s bills) at a gunpoint.

Comment by Frank M (Jake)

so sayeth the person who ripped off an honorable Vet of the North Korea War bio as his own!
eh shakey jake (or dale)?

]]> By: hellinabucket http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4240184 hellinabucket Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:00:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/#comment-4240184 My question a well Wayne. I also want to know why ct believes this is good for the country. Being blissfully ignorant of the issues may lead one to believe this is good for the country (harder to swallow how it's bad for libs but I'm sure ct will provide the rationale) but the military doesn't make a decision like this as lightly as ct types. Afghanistan is showing to be much more difficult and much more central to the "War on Terror". My question a well Wayne. I also want to know why ct believes this is good for the country.

Being blissfully ignorant of the issues may lead one to believe this is good for the country (harder to swallow how it’s bad for libs but I’m sure ct will provide the rationale) but the military doesn’t make a decision like this as lightly as ct types.

Afghanistan is showing to be much more difficult and much more central to the “War on Terror”.

]]> By: Wayne http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4240172 Wayne Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:53:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/#comment-4240172 good news for the country = bad news for the libs Comment by ct — January 23, 2008 @ 3:41 pm Good news for the servicemen and women *if* Gates and Bush listen to the Army Generals Please explain why you think this is bad for "libs"? good news for the country = bad news for the libs

Comment by ct — January 23, 2008 @ 3:41 pm

Good news for the servicemen and women *if* Gates and Bush listen to the Army Generals

Please explain why you think this is bad for “libs”?

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4240162 MapleStreet Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:44:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/#comment-4240162 Gotta love the hat trick: Tours used to be limited to 12 months. Military intentionally changed the policy to accommodate Chimpy's war. Now going back to 12 months is a "cut". Gotta love the hat trick:

Tours used to be limited to 12 months. Military intentionally changed the policy to accommodate Chimpy’s war.

Now going back to 12 months is a “cut”.

]]> By: ralph the wonder llama http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4240159 ralph the wonder llama Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:43:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/#comment-4240159 I thought c**t was banned? I thought c**t was banned?

]]> By: ralph the wonder llama http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4240156 ralph the wonder llama Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:42:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/#comment-4240156 <em>#8: You seem to lack appreciation for the voluntary nature of our armed forces. Comment by Frank M — January 23, 2008 @ 3:25 pm</em> Wrong again, Frank. Bobwurst was specifically addressing the voluntary nature of our armed forces, and suggesting that you and all your cohorts who find this such a noble effort, simply volunteer. How is that hard to understand? #8: You seem to lack appreciation for the voluntary nature of our armed forces.

Comment by Frank M — January 23, 2008 @ 3:25 pm

Wrong again, Frank. Bobwurst was specifically addressing the voluntary nature of our armed forces, and suggesting that you and all your cohorts who find this such a noble effort, simply volunteer.

How is that hard to understand?

]]> By: ct http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4240153 ct Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:41:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/#comment-4240153 good news for the country = bad news for the libs good news for the country = bad news for the libs

]]> By: Wayne http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4240133 Wayne Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:30:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/#comment-4240133 You seem to lack appreciation for the voluntary nature of our armed forces. But then again one can expect that attitude from a leftist who embraces the idea of people having to pay taxes (ie. someone else’s bills) at a gunpoint. Comment by Frank M — January 23, 2008 @ 3:25 pm Shorter Frank M: "I am a coward who will let others fight and die while I hide in mommy's basement." You seem to lack appreciation for the voluntary nature of our armed forces. But then again one can expect that attitude from a leftist who embraces the idea of people having to pay taxes (ie. someone else’s bills) at a gunpoint.

Comment by Frank M — January 23, 2008 @ 3:25 pm

Shorter Frank M:
“I am a coward who will let others fight and die while I hide in mommy’s basement.”

]]> By: Bobwurst http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4240130 Bobwurst Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:29:14 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/#comment-4240130 and I'm proud to be a leftist. We've been right and you've been wrong about everything you neofacist wingnut. and I’m proud to be a leftist. We’ve been right and you’ve been wrong about everything you neofacist wingnut.

]]> By: Bobwurst http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4240129 Bobwurst Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:28:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/#comment-4240129 #8: You seem to lack appreciation for the voluntary nature of our armed forces. But then again one can expect that attitude from a leftist who embraces the idea of people having to pay taxes (ie. someone else’s bills) at a gunpoint. Comment by Frank M but I have a fine appreciation for your cowardice and hypocrisy. Now, not only do you refuse to serve to defend your country against a foe you believe is out to destroy us, but you complain about having to pay for someone else to go and get his or her legs blown off. you're scum frank. #8: You seem to lack appreciation for the voluntary nature of our armed forces. But then again one can expect that attitude from a leftist who embraces the idea of people having to pay taxes (ie. someone else’s bills) at a gunpoint.

Comment by Frank M

but I have a fine appreciation for your cowardice and hypocrisy. Now, not only do you refuse to serve to defend your country against a foe you believe is out to destroy us, but you complain about having to pay for someone else to go and get his or her legs blown off. you’re scum frank.

]]> By: Bobwurst http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4240125 Bobwurst Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:25:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/#comment-4240125 "...If the war-mongers are correct..." Briseadh na Faire That's a pretty big if..but I guess there's a first time for everything. “…If the war-mongers are correct…”
Briseadh na Faire

That’s a pretty big if..but I guess there’s a first time for everything.

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4240116 RUCerious Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:22:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/#comment-4240116 At least the military brass are facing up to the reality of a broken army. They can't support the current troop levels in combat, so they are making the necessary adjustments. Time for political gamesmanship is up, reality sets in. Bush, you broke it. Bush supporters, you should get to pay for it. At least the military brass are facing up to the reality of a broken army. They can’t support the current troop levels in combat, so they are making the necessary adjustments.
Time for political gamesmanship is up, reality sets in.
Bush, you broke it. Bush supporters, you should get to pay for it.

]]> By: Wayne http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4240114 Wayne Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:21:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/army-wants-to-cut-war-tours-to-12-months/#comment-4240114 Wash, Rinse, Repeat. Comment by plunger — January 23, 2008 @ 3:12 pm Cut, paste, rinse, repeat. Wash, Rinse, Repeat.
Comment by plunger — January 23, 2008 @ 3:12 pm

Cut, paste, rinse, repeat.

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