Anything similar to what Union of Concerned Scientists put out to expose the political pressure put on Federal scientists? Thanks.

Perhaps, well I’m not gonna guess why he did that!

“The oil pipeline is only this wide, so it’s a tight squeeze for me.
Thank goodness for my official Christie Todd Whitman helmet that protects my head when they pump me headfirst to work in the morning.”

Robert
The Issue | http://www.TheIssue.com

Comment by Robert @ TheIssue — January 23, 2008 @ 5:11 pm

No – I’m speaking specifically of the story that was put out about what happened on 9/11 itself and who was actually involved in the planning and implementation and financing.

The government’s version of events is impossible, and a lie.

Robert
The Issue | http://www.TheIssue.com

Maybe that environmental extremist Arnold der Governator will sic Jerry Brown on those Republicans and save us from the timidity of the Democrats, who only hold a majority in Congress.

2) I don’t care where, just not here

3) preferably when I’m not around

Comment by dim wit — January 23, 2008 @ 4:55 pm

Thanks, Karl. Nice to see you.

Cheers,
Robert
The Issue | http://www.TheIssue.com

Comment by Robert @ TheIssue — January 23, 2008 @ 4:46 pm

Thin?

The thinnest conspiracy theory of 9/11 is that proposed by the government itself, which is proven to be virtually impossible.

(2) If we don’t reveal the truth here, then where?

(3) If not now, then when?

Comment by plunger — January 23, 2008 @ 4:23 pm

1) life, lie, fascist dictatorship, whatever

2) I don’t care where, just not here

3) preferably when I’m not around

I pinpointed the shift in conversation topics and it all begins with POST 18.
Plunger:
You are cohesive in your thought process and what you say does make sense but I’m going to go out on a ledge here and say that you might be hovering along very thin conspiracy theories.

Cheers,
Robert
The Issue | http://www.TheIssue.com

This has been the whine of Republicans for ages:
We can’t pay a living wage:
We can’t put in safety equipment in the mines!
WE can’r have a minium wage!
We can’t raise the minimum wage!
We can’t hace a 40-hour work week, overtime, workmen’s compensation, parental leave!

….we’ll go broke!

They’ve been whining like this throughout the 20th Century–and the result? America has an enormous economy, and the rich are richer than ever.

They whine like spoiled children every time, and every time they’re wrong.

HOWEVER, …

Predicted conclusion to all lawsuits – 2009

So, SCREW IT!

BWA HA HA HA HA HA!

(Meeting adjourned)

Plunger

http://www.rense.com/general31/cyc.htm

The CIA’s “Operation
Cyclone” – Stirring The Hornet’s
Nest Of Islamic Unrest
FriendsOfLiberty.com
10-27-2

Zbigniew Brzezinski not long ago revealed that on July 3, 1979, unknown to the American public and Congress, President Jimmy Carter secretly authorized $500 million to create an international terrorist movement that would spread Islamic fundamentalism in Central Asia and “de-stabilise” the Soviet Union…
The CIA called this Operation Cyclone and in the following years poured $4 billion into setting up Islamic training schools in Pakistan (Taliban means “student”).

Young zealots were sent to the CIA’s spy training camp in Virginia, where future members of al-Qaeda were taught “sabotage skills” – terrorism.

Others were recruited at an Islamic school in Brooklyn, New York, within sight of the fated Twin Towers.

In Pakistan, they were directed by British MI6 officers and trained by the SAS.

The result, quipped Brzezinski, was “a few stirred up Muslims” – meaning the Taliban.

The Wall Street Journal declared: “The Taliban are the players most capable of achieving peace. Moreover, they were crucial to secure the country as a prime trans-shipment route for the export of Central Asia’s vast oil, gas and other natural resources.”

No American newspaper dares suggest that the prisoners in Camp X-Ray are the product of this policy, nor that it was one of the factors that led to the attacks of September 11.

Nor do they ask: who were the real winners of September 11?

The day the Wall Street stock market opened after the destruction of the Twin Towers, the few companies showing increased value were the giant military contractors Alliant Tech Systems, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon (a contributor to New Labor) and Lockheed Martin.

As the US military’s biggest supplier, Lockheed Martin’s share value rose by a staggering 30 per cent.

Within six weeks of September 11, the company (with its main plant in Texas, George Bush’s home state) had secured the biggest military order in history: a $200 billion contract to develop a new fighter aircraft. The greatest taboo of all, which Orwell would surely recognize, is the record of the United States as a terrorist state and haven for terrorists.

This truth is virtually unknown by the American public and makes a mockery of Bush’s (and Blair’s) statements about “tracking down terrorists wherever they are.”

They don’t have to look far.

THERE IS NO OSAMA BIN LADEN.

AL QAEDA IS MERELY AN IDEA.

THERE IS NO “WAR ON TERROR”

THERE IS MERELY TERROR, CAUSED DIRECTLY BY THOSE WHO GAIN THE MOST FROM IT.

AFGHANISTAN’S OPIUM PRODUCTION IS AT ALL TIME HIGHS SINCE 9/11 AND OUR RESULTING INVASION.

GEORGE HW BUSH’S CIA/DEA DRUG IMPORTATION OPERATIONS ARE AS PROFITABLE AS EVER.

THE US IS LEADING THE “WAR OF TERROR.”

GOOGLE: “FALSE FLAG”

Terrorism occurs when a state utilizes fear tactics against its own people to accomplish political objectives.

The mere act or announcing a falsely construed terror alert – or overplaying the significance of a plot known not to be viable – is itself terrorism.

Tom Ridge admitted that many of the Terror Alerts announced under his command were in fact phony.

Remember the run on duct tape?

That was a clear case of state sponsored terrorism by the Government of the United States under the direction of Karl Rove against the people of the United States to achieve a political objective.

Karl Rove is a Terrorist under the definition ascribed by the US State Department.

By JEFF GERTH

“The media center in Fayetteville, N.C., would be the envy of any global communications company …

“The center is not part of a news organization, but a military operation, and those writers and producers are soldiers. The 1,200-strong psychological operations unit based at Fort Bragg turns out what its officers call “truthful messages” to support the United States government’s objectives, though its commander acknowledges that those stories are one-sided and their American sponsorship is hidden.

“We call our stuff information and the enemy’s propaganda,” said Col. Jack N. Summe, then the commander of the Fourth Psychological Operations Group, during a tour in June. Even in the Pentagon, “some public affairs professionals see us unfavorably,” and inaccurately, he said, as “lying, dirty tricksters.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/11/politics/11propaganda.html?pagewa

Meaning I don’t want you posting reams and reams of 9/11 crap.

Comment by dim wit — January 23, 2008 @ 4:20 pm

So if it’s never “on topic to post “tons of 9/11 crap” (otherwise known as the TRUTH), then you are in favor of living this lie for the rest of your life under a fascist dictatorship?

If we don’t reveal the truth here, then where?

If not now, then when?

“Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one’s self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.”

Michael Rivera

Meaning I don’t want you posting reams and reams of 9/11 crap.

Comment by plunger — January 23, 2008 @ 3:59 pm

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

God Please NO!

Comment by dim wit — January 23, 2008 @ 4:05 pm

Meaning what? That you want to fight a forever war against a Boogieman that had nothing to do with 9/11, and you don’t want to know the truth?