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	<title>Comments on: House conservatives uphold Bush&#8217;s SCHIP veto.</title>
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		<title>By: ebbAndflow</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/house-conservatives-uphold-bushs-schip-veto/comment-page-3/#comment-4240857</link>
		<dc:creator>ebbAndflow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 06:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A sad, sad day for the children of this nation.</description>
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		<title>By: jerseyboyblue</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerseyboyblue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again the Republicans have forfeited their claim as the party of Moral Values.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again the Republicans have forfeited their claim as the party of Moral Values.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4240509', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: texaslady</title>
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		<dc:creator>texaslady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good golly is the spririt of the Republicans everything for me and to hell with others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good golly is the spririt of the Republicans everything for me and to hell with others.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4240335', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: texaslady</title>
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		<dc:creator>texaslady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know we all pay for roads, schools, libraries, ect.  Why are so many against National Healthcare?   Medicare costs $96.40 a month with many other plans to add or use instead.  So why not the same with healthcare, let those who want to customize their plan do so.   Should everyone pay into it of course but on a slidding scale.  The government can do some programs right, Social Security checks arrive every months on time, Medicare seems to work.  So lets think beyond the box of private healthcare which is bleeding all of us dry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know we all pay for roads, schools, libraries, ect.  Why are so many against National Healthcare?   Medicare costs $96.40 a month with many other plans to add or use instead.  So why not the same with healthcare, let those who want to customize their plan do so.   Should everyone pay into it of course but on a slidding scale.  The government can do some programs right, Social Security checks arrive every months on time, Medicare seems to work.  So lets think beyond the box of private healthcare which is bleeding all of us dry.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4240331', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Lefty Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lefty Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OT, but dang that was funny! ;)

Comment by upright left â€” January 23, 2008 @ 4:52 pm

and unfortunately, all to true, after the disasters the repigs have put in that chair, including pedophile Hastert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT, but dang that was funny! ;)</p>
<p>Comment by upright left â€” January 23, 2008 @ 4:52 pm</p>
<p>and unfortunately, all to true, after the disasters the repigs have put in that chair, including pedophile Hastert.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4240295', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: upright left</title>
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		<dc:creator>upright left</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... lets all try to SMEAR THE MOST RESPECTED HOUSE SPEAKER IN AGES! ;) 
Comment by republicans hate facts â€” January 23, 2008 @ 1:26 pm

OT, but dang that was funny!  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; lets all try to SMEAR THE MOST RESPECTED HOUSE SPEAKER IN AGES! ;)<br />
Comment by republicans hate facts â€” January 23, 2008 @ 1:26 pm</p>
<p>OT, but dang that was funny!  ;)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4240286', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Leftside Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leftside Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a real pity that scum like GG and his Repukian counterparts aren&#039;t smart enough to realize that there is a real - and deadly - conflict of interest in &quot;for-profit healthcare&quot;.

Goony, I sincerely hope that YOUR child never has to suffer or die for a corporation&#039;s profit and a CEO&#039;s bonus check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a real pity that scum like GG and his Repukian counterparts aren&#8217;t smart enough to realize that there is a real &#8211; and deadly &#8211; conflict of interest in &#8220;for-profit healthcare&#8221;.</p>
<p>Goony, I sincerely hope that YOUR child never has to suffer or die for a corporation&#8217;s profit and a CEO&#8217;s bonus check.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4240234', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These clowns also forget that the the insurance companies negotiate costs with the medical providers so they pay reduced fees.  Everytime something isn&#039;t covered under your insurance, like well care for a child who needs a school physical or a mammogram, the patient pays ridculous rates to make up for the negotiated rates the insurance company pays.   Why is this gouging not illegal.  I had to pay $600 for my daughter&#039;s fifth grade physical because it was not covered under &quot;well child care&quot;.  The insurance company if they paid for the expense would have paid about $200, maybe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These clowns also forget that the the insurance companies negotiate costs with the medical providers so they pay reduced fees.  Everytime something isn&#8217;t covered under your insurance, like well care for a child who needs a school physical or a mammogram, the patient pays ridculous rates to make up for the negotiated rates the insurance company pays.   Why is this gouging not illegal.  I had to pay $600 for my daughter&#8217;s fifth grade physical because it was not covered under &#8220;well child care&#8221;.  The insurance company if they paid for the expense would have paid about $200, maybe.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4240219', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by Yankeluh â€” January 23, 2008 @ 3:35 pm

Great point, only the doctors and hospitals can rip off the medicare and medicaid systems since billing can&#039;t be done by individuals.   GG acts like all doctors are perfect in their medical practices and that none of them defrauds the government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by Yankeluh â€” January 23, 2008 @ 3:35 pm</p>
<p>Great point, only the doctors and hospitals can rip off the medicare and medicaid systems since billing can&#8217;t be done by individuals.   GG acts like all doctors are perfect in their medical practices and that none of them defrauds the government.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4240209', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: nanlichi</title>
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		<dc:creator>nanlichi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Ron Paul&#039;s number went up by one.  Thanks to GG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Ron Paul&#8217;s number went up by one.  Thanks to GG.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4240199', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: missmolly</title>
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		<dc:creator>missmolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by good_golly â€” January 23, 2008 @ 2:47 pm

&quot;Experts agree that our health care system is riddled with inefficiencies, excessive administrative expenses, inflated prices, poor management, and inappropriate care, waste and fraud...&quot;
--  Which experts?  And which health care system?  Are you talking about our current system of health care delivery in this country?  For most of us, that would be a for-profit insurance provider driven by corporate greed.  This is probably a bigger factor in driving up health care costs than anything else in your list (except for &quot;inflated prices&quot;).

&quot;...especially when it comes to Medicare and Medicade fraud.&quot;
-- Oh, you&#039;re not talking about the for-profit greedheads, you&#039;re talking about government programs?  And you are claiming they are riddled with fraud?  Insurance fraud is a problem for BOTH government programs and private programs, and they both do their best to fight it in order to keep costs down.

&quot;These problems significantly increase the cost of medical care and health insurance.&quot;
-- Agreed that inefficiency and fraud increase the cost of ANYTHING, including medical care.  However, the cost of medical care is soaring because of for-profit providers and Big Pharma.  Television advertising, CEO salaries, the bottom line to keep the stock price up -- it&#039;s all gotta be paid for somehow.

&quot;These, together with the tort explosion brought to you courtesy of the trial lawyers, are the problems that need to be addressed.&quot;
-- There you go with your &quot;trial lawyers are the bane of our existence&quot; song and dance again.  Medical malpractice lawsuits are but a tiny fraction of total health care costs.  Check this out:  http://www.centerjd.org/private/mythbuster/MB_medical_malpractice.htm

&quot;These problems are not properly addressed by putting the government in charge when history has proven that government supervision and beurocratic red-tape increases inefficiencies, increases administrative expenses, inflates prices, and results in inappropriate care, waste and fraud.&quot;
-- &quot;History has proven&quot;???  This is an example of repeating a lie often enough and people will accept it as the truth.  Do you have some proof of Medicare waste and inefficiency, or are you just repeating an oft-cited myth?  My googling showed estimates of Medicare overhead to be between 1% (lowest figure I found) to 5% (highest figure I found).  Private insurers ranged from 10% to 30%.  Would you to explain how government health care programs waste more money than private health insurers do?

I truly don&#039;t understand why you cling so tenaciously to the current health care delivery system in this country, when costs are rising past the cost of living and when more and more people are priced out of the system.  Are you truly afraid that under a universal health care system that you will pay thousands of additional dollars in taxes only to never be able to see a doctor again?  Or do you work for a for-profit health insurance corporation or pharmaceutical company?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by good_golly â€” January 23, 2008 @ 2:47 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;Experts agree that our health care system is riddled with inefficiencies, excessive administrative expenses, inflated prices, poor management, and inappropriate care, waste and fraud&#8230;&#8221;<br />
&#8211;  Which experts?  And which health care system?  Are you talking about our current system of health care delivery in this country?  For most of us, that would be a for-profit insurance provider driven by corporate greed.  This is probably a bigger factor in driving up health care costs than anything else in your list (except for &#8220;inflated prices&#8221;).</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;especially when it comes to Medicare and Medicade fraud.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; Oh, you&#8217;re not talking about the for-profit greedheads, you&#8217;re talking about government programs?  And you are claiming they are riddled with fraud?  Insurance fraud is a problem for BOTH government programs and private programs, and they both do their best to fight it in order to keep costs down.</p>
<p>&#8220;These problems significantly increase the cost of medical care and health insurance.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; Agreed that inefficiency and fraud increase the cost of ANYTHING, including medical care.  However, the cost of medical care is soaring because of for-profit providers and Big Pharma.  Television advertising, CEO salaries, the bottom line to keep the stock price up &#8212; it&#8217;s all gotta be paid for somehow.</p>
<p>&#8220;These, together with the tort explosion brought to you courtesy of the trial lawyers, are the problems that need to be addressed.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; There you go with your &#8220;trial lawyers are the bane of our existence&#8221; song and dance again.  Medical malpractice lawsuits are but a tiny fraction of total health care costs.  Check this out:  <a href="http://www.centerjd.org/private/mythbuster/MB_medical_malpractice.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.centerjd.org/private/mythbuster/MB_medical_malpractice.htm</a></p>
<p>&#8220;These problems are not properly addressed by putting the government in charge when history has proven that government supervision and beurocratic red-tape increases inefficiencies, increases administrative expenses, inflates prices, and results in inappropriate care, waste and fraud.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; &#8220;History has proven&#8221;???  This is an example of repeating a lie often enough and people will accept it as the truth.  Do you have some proof of Medicare waste and inefficiency, or are you just repeating an oft-cited myth?  My googling showed estimates of Medicare overhead to be between 1% (lowest figure I found) to 5% (highest figure I found).  Private insurers ranged from 10% to 30%.  Would you to explain how government health care programs waste more money than private health insurers do?</p>
<p>I truly don&#8217;t understand why you cling so tenaciously to the current health care delivery system in this country, when costs are rising past the cost of living and when more and more people are priced out of the system.  Are you truly afraid that under a universal health care system that you will pay thousands of additional dollars in taxes only to never be able to see a doctor again?  Or do you work for a for-profit health insurance corporation or pharmaceutical company?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4240144', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Yankeluh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yankeluh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like some of these &quot;conservative&quot; schmucks to actually define their version of socialized medicine.  This is the same crap that doctors were spouting before Medicare was put in place, and it is the medical industry that has raped Medicare through the years, not those who have received care under the program.  Conservatives and other rightwingers really enjoy talking crap out of their a**holes.  It amazes me how they are able to blow smoke and talk out of the same holes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like some of these &#8220;conservative&#8221; schmucks to actually define their version of socialized medicine.  This is the same crap that doctors were spouting before Medicare was put in place, and it is the medical industry that has raped Medicare through the years, not those who have received care under the program.  Conservatives and other rightwingers really enjoy talking crap out of their a**holes.  It amazes me how they are able to blow smoke and talk out of the same holes.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4240142', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: zathrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>zathrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GG...  Very few on the left ever talk about &quot;socialized medicine&quot;.  This is a scare tactic which has obviously been used effectively on you.  For most liberals, the issue is simply that every American should have access to the same kind of health INSURANCE as is provided by medicare, or medicaid.  Virtually nobody is talking about sendiing everyone to government run clinics, or nationalizing all the hospitals or such.  I occasionally appreciate hearing your opinions, but please don&#039;t waste our time arguing against something nobody is proposing anyway.  It&#039;s another &quot;war on christmas&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GG&#8230;  Very few on the left ever talk about &#8220;socialized medicine&#8221;.  This is a scare tactic which has obviously been used effectively on you.  For most liberals, the issue is simply that every American should have access to the same kind of health INSURANCE as is provided by medicare, or medicaid.  Virtually nobody is talking about sendiing everyone to government run clinics, or nationalizing all the hospitals or such.  I occasionally appreciate hearing your opinions, but please don&#8217;t waste our time arguing against something nobody is proposing anyway.  It&#8217;s another &#8220;war on christmas&#8221;&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4240135', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If they were truly â€œheroesâ€ they could easily start by dropping their contingency rate down to 20% and still make a very good living.&quot;

Comment by good_golly 

And since those in the medical profession also are &quot;heroes&quot; of a sort, it&#039;s only fair to ask them to drop their rates as well.  They also can still make a very good living.  All they have to do is quit being incompetent...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If they were truly â€œheroesâ€ they could easily start by dropping their contingency rate down to 20% and still make a very good living.&#8221;</p>
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<p>And since those in the medical profession also are &#8220;heroes&#8221; of a sort, it&#8217;s only fair to ask them to drop their rates as well.  They also can still make a very good living.  All they have to do is quit being incompetent&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4240118', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well goodgolly that would be great but nobody is addressing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well goodgolly that would be great but nobody is addressing them.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4240112', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shayne</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/house-conservatives-uphold-bushs-schip-veto/comment-page-2/#comment-4240097</link>
		<dc:creator>Shayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My small business is going broke giving health insurance to employees.  When business is slow our bills to our vendors go down, but our health insurance bills stay the same no matter what.  For the first time in 10 years I have to take out a loan to pay bills.  Of course I had to pay the insurance bills first or the insurance would have been cancelled.  No I&#039;m borrowing money to pay for supplies I need to make money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My small business is going broke giving health insurance to employees.  When business is slow our bills to our vendors go down, but our health insurance bills stay the same no matter what.  For the first time in 10 years I have to take out a loan to pay bills.  Of course I had to pay the insurance bills first or the insurance would have been cancelled.  No I&#8217;m borrowing money to pay for supplies I need to make money.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4240097', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Lefty Patriot</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/house-conservatives-uphold-bushs-schip-veto/comment-page-2/#comment-4240081</link>
		<dc:creator>Lefty Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it never takes you more than 1 post to lie through your tooth, pig. You&#039;re a failure as an American. and as a human.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it never takes you more than 1 post to lie through your tooth, pig. You&#8217;re a failure as an American. and as a human.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4240081', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shayne</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/house-conservatives-uphold-bushs-schip-veto/comment-page-2/#comment-4240077</link>
		<dc:creator>Shayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are self-insured through my firm, with the benefits managed by a health insurance company. In other words, we donâ€™t just pay for premiums, we pay the actual health care expenses.

Comment by good_golly â€” January 23, 2008 @ 2:55 pm

Your firm?  And what health insurance company administers the benefits?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are self-insured through my firm, with the benefits managed by a health insurance company. In other words, we donâ€™t just pay for premiums, we pay the actual health care expenses.</p>
<p>Comment by good_golly â€” January 23, 2008 @ 2:55 pm</p>
<p>Your firm?  And what health insurance company administers the benefits?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4240077', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Lefty Patriot</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/house-conservatives-uphold-bushs-schip-veto/comment-page-2/#comment-4240076</link>
		<dc:creator>Lefty Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trial lawyers are heroes. Corporations would have a death toll as high as Bush&#039;s if it weren&#039;t for trial lawyers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trial lawyers are heroes. Corporations would have a death toll as high as Bush&#8217;s if it weren&#8217;t for trial lawyers.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4240076', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ebbAndflow</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/house-conservatives-uphold-bushs-schip-veto/comment-page-2/#comment-4240074</link>
		<dc:creator>ebbAndflow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Many/most of those private employers would likely stop offering private health insurance as a benefit if they could simply drop that expense and have their employees covered by a government run program.
Comment by good_golly â€” January 23, 2008 @ 2:21 pm&quot;
Like WalMart!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Many/most of those private employers would likely stop offering private health insurance as a benefit if they could simply drop that expense and have their employees covered by a government run program.<br />
Comment by good_golly â€” January 23, 2008 @ 2:21 pm&#8221;<br />
Like WalMart!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4240074', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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