UK ordered to make Iraq WMD docs public.
By on Jan 23rd, 2008 at 9:38 pm
UK ordered to make Iraq WMD docs public.
According to View London, the British Foreign Office “has been ordered to publish an early draft of the controversial dossier on Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction”:
The final document, which was issued by then prime minister Tony Blair in September 2002, was at the centre of a government scandal after accusations that the dossier had been ’sexed up’ in order to encourage support for an invasion of Iraq.
The document reportedly said that “Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein had the ability to launch WMDs within 45 minutes.”
(HT: Newshoggers)
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January 23rd, 2008 at 9:43 pmGin,
A worthy reminder. Well done. I was not always President Clinton’s biggest fan and I disagreed with him often. But I supported him when I believed he — as our president — acted in the best interests of our nation’s national security (as did many Republicans). President Clinton was correct to act as he did in 1998. I supported his actions then and I support them now.
January 23rd, 2008 at 9:57 pmNice to have the reinforcement that we have to go outside of the US to get news. Our fourth estate is officially friggin’ DEAD.
That they let the whole Sibel Edmonds thing just lie there….
Journalisism in America is for $hit.
January 23rd, 2008 at 9:59 pmSorry, troll, but this DOES NOT excuse or justify Bush’s bloodbath.
Nice try, though…
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:01 pmMedia ownership study ordered destroyed
Sept 14, 2006
‘Every last piece’ destroyed
Adam Candeub, now a law professor at Michigan State University, said senior managers at the agency ordered that “every last piece” of the report be destroyed. “The whole project was just stopped – end of discussion,” he said. Candeub was a lawyer in the FCC’s Media Bureau at the time the report was written and communicated frequently with its authors, he said.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14836500/
“You can’t tell any more the difference between what’s propaganda and what’s news.”
FCC Commissioner Jonathan Adelstein
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:02 pm15 August, 2006
Christ, either “Clinton did it” or George Soros. I am officially offering my services to Mr. Soros gratis (writing, research, hell, if he wants me to play travel agent and gofer, I’m in). Whatever he’s doing, he’s doing it well. When so many people lie about you, you have to be doing something right!!
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:02 pmComment by good_golly — January 23, 2008 @ 9:57 pm
Please provide proof that George Soros funds TP. Then provide proof that George Soros is not allowed to fund TP. And then provide proof that you are capable of independent thought, rather than mining wingnut sites like “newsbusters”.
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:05 pmhttp://www.mininggazette.com/ stories/ articles.asp?articleID=10283
Comment by goon_golly — January 23, 2008 @ 10:02 pm
It’s someone’s uninformed opinion, goon. It has nothing to do with actual news or data. Good lord, but you’re a dumb one.
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:06 pmgummitch, when you’re surfing the mininggazette for references, you’re pretty desperate.
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:07 pmThe Iraqi general, Georges Sada, makes the charges in a 2006 book, “Saddam’s Secrets,†which was ignored by the MSM.
Comment by goon_golly — January 23, 2008 @ 10:07 pm
Maybe it was ignored because the MSM occasionally uses fact checkers, unlike the wingnut websites you persist in linking to. Have you ever read anything not linked from newsmax, goon?
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:08 pmCOLUMNISTS AND COMMENTATORS WHO CAN BE COUNTED UPON TO SUPPORT ISRAEL REFLEXIVELY AND WITHOUT QUALIFICATION:
George Will, The Washington Post, Newsweek and ABC News
William Safire, The New York Times
A.M. Rosenthal, The New York Daily News, formerly Executive Editor of and later columnist for, The New York Times.
Charles Krauthammer, The Washington Post, PBS, Time, and The Weekly Standard, formerly of the New Republic.
Michael Kelly, The Washington Post, The Atlantic Monthly, National Journal, and MSNBC.com, formerly of The New Republic and The New Yorker.
Lally Weymouth, The Washington Post and Newsweek
Martin Peretz, The New Republic
Daniel Pipes, The New York Post
Andrea Peyser, The New York Post
Dick Morris, The New York Post
Lawrence Kaplan, The New Republic
William Bennett, CNN
William Kristol, The Washington Post, the Weekly Standard, Fox News, formerly of ABC News
Robert Kagan, The Washington Post and The Weekly Standard
Mortimer Zuckerman, US News and World Report (Zuckerman is also Chairman of Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations ).
David Gelertner, The Weekly Standard
John Podhoretz, The New York Post and The Weekly Standard
Mona Charen, The Washington Times
Morton Kondracke, Roll Call, Fox News, formerly of The McLaughlin Group, The New Republic and PBS
Fred Barnes, The Weekly Standard, Fox News, formerly of The New Republic, The McLaughlin Group, and The Baltimore Sun
Sid Zion, The New York Post, formerly of The New York Daily News
Yossi Klein Halevi The New Republic
Norman Podhoretz, Commentary,
Jonah Goldberg, National Review and CNN
Laura Ingraham, CNN, formerly of MSNBC and CBS News
Jeff Jacoby, The Boston Globe
Rich Lowry, National Review
Andrew Sullivan, The New Republic
Seth Lipsky, The Wall Street Journal and The New York Sun, formerly of the Jewish Forward
Irving Kristol, The Public Interest and The Wall Street Journal Editorial Page
Chris Matthews, MSNBC
Allan Keyes, MSNBC, WorldNetDaily.com
Brit Hume, Fox News
John Leo, US News and World Report
Robert Bartley, The Wall Street Journal Editorial Page
John Fund, The Wall Street Journal OpinionJournal, formerly of The WSJournal Editorial Page
Peggy Noonan, The Wall Street Journal Editorial Page
Ben Wattenberg, The Washington Times, PBS
Tony Snow, Washington Times and Fox News
Lawrence Kudlow, National Review and CNBC
Alan Dershowitz, Boston Herald, Washington Times
David Horowitz, Frontpage.com
Jacob Heilbrun, The Los Angeles Times
Thomas Sowell, Washington Times
Frank Gaffney Jr, Washington Times
Emmett Tyrell, American Spectator and New York Sun
Cal Thomas, Washington Times
Oliver North, Washington Times and Fox News, formerly of MSNBC
Michael Ledeen, Jewish World Review
William F. Buckley, National Review
Bill O’Reilly, Fox News
Paul Greenberg, Arkansas Democrat-Gazette,
L. Brent Bozell, Washington Times
Todd Lindberg, Washington Times
Michael Barone, US News and World Report and The McLaughlin Group
Ann Coulter, Human Events,
Linda Chavez, Creators Syndicate
Cathy Young, Reason Magazine
Uri Dan, New York Post
Dr. Laura Schlessinger, morality maven
Rush Limbaugh, radio host
PUBLICATIONS THAT, FOR REASONS OF OWNER OR EDITORSHIP CAN BE COUNTED UPON TO SUPPORT ISRAEL REFLEXIVELY AND WITHOUT QUALIFICATION:
The New Republic (Martin Peretz, Michael Steinhardt, Roger Hertog, Owners)
Commentary (American Jewish Committee, Owner)
US News and World Report (Mortimer Zuckerman, Owner)
The New York Daily News (Mortimer Zuckerman, Owner)
The New York Post (Rupert Murdoch, Owner)
The Weekly Standard (Rupert Murdoch, Owner)
The Wall Street Journal Editorial Page (Peter Kann, Editor)
The Atlantic Monthly (Michael Kelly, Editor)
COLUMNISTS WHO VIEW THEMSELVES TO BE CRITICALLY SUPPORTERS OF ISRAEL, AND ULTIMATELY, WOULD SUPPORT ISRAELI SECURITY OVER PALESTINIAN RIGHTS:
Thomas Friedman, The New York Times,
Richard Cohen, The Washington Post and New York Daily News
Avishai Margolit, The New York Review of Books
David Remnick, The New Yorker
Eric Alterman, The Nation and MSNBC.com
The New York Times Editorial Board
The Washington Post Editorial Board
“Hollywood is run by Jews. It is owned by Jews, and they should have a greater sensitivity about the issue of people who are suffering”
– Actor Marlon Brando on Larry King Live 04/05/1996
“I’ve never seen a president –I don’t care who he is– stand up to them [the Israelis]. It just boggles your mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what’s going on all the time. I got to the point where I wasn’t writing anything down. If the American people understood what grip those people have on our government, they would rise up in arms. Our citizens don’t have any idea what goes on.”
– Admiral Thomas Moorer of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. (See Washington Report 12/1999, p.124 quoting from Andrew Hurley’s book, “One Nation Under Israel”)
“The Israeli Prime Minister has a lot more influence over the foreign policy of the United States in the Middle East than he has in his own country.”
– Former Congressman Paul Findley, in his book They Dare to Speak Out, p. 92.
“The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate … somewhere around 80 percent of the senate of the United States is completely in support of Israel — of anything Israel wants….”
– Chairman Senator Fullbright, 10/07/1973 on CBS’ “Face the Nation”.
“We have exhausted our requests. President Clinton has answered all our needs. There has been no American president in history like President Clinton, in his support of Israel and the Jewish people.”
– Shimon Peres (From Washington Report, July 1996, pg. 17)
” resident Clinton behaves like an obedient child of Israel and does not know how to say `No.’”
– Nahum Barnea, Israeli writer (From Washington Report, July 1996, pg. 17)
“There is definitely an anti-Arab bias in America, and I regret it”
– Peter Jennings cited in Alfred Lilienthal’s 1982 Zionist Connections II, p.273, citing Edmund Ghareeb, The American Media and the Palestine Problem, Journal of Palestine Studies, Autumn 1975, Winter 1976.
“The Capitol Hill is an Israeli occupied territory”.
– Patrick Buchanan (St. Louis Dispatch, 10/20/1990).
“I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews. [Former Secretary of State George] Marshall and [former Defense Secretary James] Forrestral learned that”
– Sec. of State John Foster Dulles in Feb. 1957 quoted on p.99 of Fallen Pillars by Donald Neff
“… terrific control the Jews have over the news media and the barrage the Jews have built up on congressmen …. I am very much concerned over the fact that the Jewish influence here is completely dominating the scene and making it almost impossible to get congress to do anything they don’t approve of. The Israeli embassy is practically dictating to the congress through influential Jewish people in the country”
– Sec. of State John Foster Dulles in Feb. 1957 quoted on p.99 of Fallen Pillars by Donald Neff
“I know I was elected by the votes of American Jews. I owe them my victory. Tell me, is there something I ought to do?”
– U.S. President John F. Kennedy speaking privately to Ben-Gurion (p.90 A & L Cockburn 1991).
“The little Knesset”-
- Sec. of state James Baker describing pro-Israel Congressmen, quoted in the Web Page of the Zionist Organization of America, which, in turn, quotes the Los Angeles Times (March 7, 1992)
“I do not think I ever had as much pressure and propaganda aimed at the White House as I had in this instance”
ï® U.S. President Harry Truman writing in his memoirs about the Zionist pressure to support the partition of Palestine.
The real government of the USA!
Jews in the Bush Administration
Paul Dundes Wolfowitz – Deputy Secretary, Department of Defense
Richard Perle – Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Policy.
Ari Fleischer – White House Press Secretary
Josh Bolten – Deputy Chief of Staff
Ken Melman – White House Political Director
Jay Lefkowitz – Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of the Domestic Policy Council
David Frum-Speechwriter
Brad Blakeman- White House Director of Scheduling
Dov Zakheim – Undersecretary of Defense (Controller)
I. Lewis Libby- Chief of Staff to the Vice President
Adam Goldman – White House Liaison to the Jewish Community
Chris Gersten- Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and Families at HHS
Elliott Abrams- Director of the National Security Council’s Office for Democracy, Human Rights (!!! ) and International Operations
Mark D. Weinberg – Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public Affairs
Douglas Feith- Under Secretary of Defense for Policy
Michael Chertoff- Head of the Justice Department’s criminal division
Daniel Kurtzer- Ambassador to Israel (!!! )
Cliff Sobel- Ambassador to the Netherlands
Stuart Bernstein – Ambassador to Denmark
Nancy Brinker- Ambassador to Hungary
Frank Lavin- Ambassador to Singapore
Ron Weiser- Ambassador to Slovakia
Mel Sembler – Ambassador to Italy
Martin Silverstein- Ambassador to Uruguay
Assistant Secretary of Defense: Paul Wolfowitz, Undersecretary of Defense under former President Bush, former ambassador to Indonesia, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), a member of the Aspen Institute’s Strategy Group, reportedly attended the 2000 Bilderberg meeting in Belgium, and was a member of the Trilateral Commission as of 2000.
White House Press Secretary: Ari Fleischer, former 2000 Bush campaign spokesman, and previously was communications director for Elizabeth Dole’s 2000 campaign. He was also the Presidential Transition Spokesperson 2000-2001.
Deputy Chief of Staff: Joshua B. Bolten, policy director for the 2000 Bush campaign.
Chief Counsel: Jay Lefkowitz, former law partner of Kenneth W. Starr.
Deputy Assistant to the President for Appointments and Scheduling: Brad Blakeman, who spent two years as Lead Advance Representative for Bush/Cheney 2000 and also worked in the same capacity for the Bush/Quayle campaigns in 1988 & 1992. From 1980-1993, he was a consultant to the offices of the President and Vice President of the United States.
Undersecretary of Defense & Comptroller: Dov S. Zakheim, CEO of System Planning Corporation International and a member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).
Chief of Staff for the Vice President: I. Lewis Libby, former Deputy Under Secretary of Defense, and a former lawyer for Mark Rich, whom Clinton pardoned. Libby is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).
Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs: Mark D. Weinberg, the Director of issues Management for The McGraw-Hill Companies and was Manager for Marketing Communications and Special Events for the U.S. Postal Service 1994-1999. He served as Director of Public Affairs in the Office of Former President Bush 1989-1991 and as Special Assistant to the President and Assistant Press Secretary for President Reagan 1981-1989.
Under Secretary of Defense for Policy: Douglas Jay Feith, formerly with Feith and Zell, P.C., in Washington, D.C. He served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Negotiations Policy, 1984-1986 and was Special Counsel to Assistant Secretary of Defense Richard Peale 1982-1984. Feith is a graduate of Harvard College and Georgetown University Law Center and is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)
Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division: Michael Chertoff, a Partner with Latham and Watkins in Newark, NJ. He was the U.S. Attorney for New Jersey 1990-1994 and is a graduate of Harvard University and Harvard Law School. He also advised Sen. Alfonse M. D’Amato (R-NY) during the Whitewater investigation.
Ari Fleischer
Dov Zakheim
Elliott Abrams
Richard Perle
Paul Dundes Wolfowitz
Warren Bruce Rudman
Leslie Gelb
David Frum
Eliot Engel
John Deutch
Maurice Raymond GreenbergRobert Rubin
Martin Feldstein
Kenneth Duberstein
George Soros
Richard Charles Albert Holbrooke
Ariel Sharon:
“We control America”"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.”
- Israeli Prime Minister,Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001.
“Israel controls the United States Senate.”
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:11 pm- Sen.William Fulbright
Comment by good_golly — January 23, 2008 @ 10:09 pm
15. Soros gave $3 million to the Center for American Progress, committed $5 million to MoveOn, while he and his friend Peter Lewis each gave America Coming Together $10 million.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros
Yahoo! Go get ‘em George!
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:12 pmMedia ownership study ordered destroyed
Sept 14, 2006
‘Every last piece’ destroyed
Adam Candeub, now a law professor at Michigan State University, said senior managers at the agency ordered that “every last piece” of the report be destroyed. “The whole project was just stopped – end of discussion,” he said. Candeub was a lawyer in the FCC’s Media Bureau at the time the report was written and communicated frequently with its authors, he said.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14836500/
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:12 pmGood_Gullible, you really need to come up w/… what’s the phrase we’re looking for here… “credible sources”… yeah, that’s it… CREDIBLE SOURCES, if you don’t want to be laughed outta town.
As desperate as Herr Brusch and GOOPers are to redeem their worthless hides these days, dont’cha think they’d have latched onto this story BIG TIME, if it had any credibility to it, at all?
Of do ya think the GOOP has been so busy chasing teenage pages around, they overlooked this one?
Mebbe the General’s book got ignored by the “liberal” **cough** MSM for good reasons, and also by the CIA, the Pentagon, and the WH, too.
Sheez… get a clue, dum_dum…
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:12 pm15. Soros gave $3 million to the Center for American Progress, committed $5 million to MoveOn, while he and his friend Peter Lewis each gave America Coming Together $10 million.
Comment by good_golly — January 23, 2008 @ 10:09 pm
Good for him! Nice to see someone applying their honestly-earned wealth to something besides right wing think tanks for a change. I suppose you apply this same sense of outrage to the way that Richard Mellon Scaife spends his money. Right? I mean anyone who throws millions of dollars into a political cause is bad, right? No?
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:12 pmWhen the truth of this ENTIRE CONSPIRACY is finally revealed to the American people, they will be pissed off enough to not only throw the bums out, but to boycott the Mainstream Media that enabled it.
CNN Continues to run banner ads all over the web proclaiming that you can walk “IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF BIN LADEN” – a promo for a show that they now run every week.
THIS IS GOVERNMENT SPONSORED PROPAGANDA.
BIN LADEN IS DEAD.
And now this gem from Government Propaganda Network FOX:
Bin Laden’s Former Girlfriend Reveals Shocking Details in New Book
Monday, August 21, 2006
By John Gibson
Bin Laden had the hots for Whitney Houston.
That’s what we’re learning from Kola Boof, the Sudanese poet and novelist whose new book “Diary of a Lost Girl” draws on her experiences as one of bid Laden’s girlfriends. Actually she says she was bin Laden’s sex slave for a while.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,209691,00.html
EARTH TO AMERICA…
IT IS ALL GOVERNMENT PROPAGANDA!
THEY STILL WANT YOU TO FEAR A GUY WHO IS DEAD.
For those of you who actually believe that Bin Laden was involved in the 9/11 attacks, the FBI Most Wanted web site disagrees with you, and so does Wikipedia:
“The FBI does not yet have ‘hard evidence’ linking him to the 9/11 attacks and so as of 2006 he has only been indicted on the embassy murders; he is officially still only a suspect in ‘other terrorist attacks throughout the world’.”
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm
To each of you – go ahead, tell me again about the one where Osama Bin Laden attacked America on 9/11.
Anybody?
Anybody?
Have you actually LOOKED at the person in the fake Bin Laden video?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html
The FBI declines to confirm its authenticity.
BECAUSE IT’S FAKE!
BIN LADEN DID NOT ATTACK US ON 9/11.
Bush knows for a fact that Bin Laden is dead.
How does it make you feel that the dumbest MF ever to sit in the Oval Office thinks you’re dumber than he is.
We need to take back the airwaves for WE THE PEOPLE.
We need to use the ANTI-TRUST LAWS (you remember laws?) to break up the triad of Propaganda networks that have enabled this military coup, and take the money out of the election process and Nationalize the oil industry and recover all of the ill-gotten gains that these criminals have stolen from our Treasury, and bring the damn troops home and cut off Israel from receiving another dime.
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:13 pmhttp://www.arcticbeacon.com/18-Aug-2006.html
A TOP GLOBAL CONSPIRATOR CONFIRMS THE GLOBAL CONSPIRACY
For the benefit of knee-jerk ’smart fellows’ whose minds are befogged by ’slides’ and who will be inclined to accuse the Editor of International Currency Review of being a ‘conspiracy theorist’, the following statement by one of the leading globalist strategists, Mr David Rockefeller, published in 2002*, will no doubt come as a shock:
‘For more than a century ideological extremists [sic] at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicised incidents such as my encounter with Castro, to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and over economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as “internationalists” and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure ? one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it’.
As will be seen, David Rockefeller acknowledges that he is part of a secret cabal (synarchy) which works against the best interests of the United States. Why has he not yet been indicted, then, for conspiring against the United States under Section 371 of the United States Code, Title 18, ‘Crimes and Criminal Procedure’, which states that ‘if two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both’?
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:18 pmFact: Shrub lied about WMD in Iraq.
Fact: Almost 4,000 brave American soldiers are dead.
Fact: Bill Clinton did not order the occupation of Iraq-Shrub did.
Fact: The occupation of Iraq currantly costs $12BILLION/month.
Fact: This (mal)administration has neglected the returning veterans.
Fact: The occupation of Iraq will eventually cost over $2 TRILLION.
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:20 pm“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, THE TRUTH IS THE GREATEST ENEMY OF THE STATE.”
– Joseph Goebbels, German Minister of Propaganda, 1933-1945
By: okiemon on September 27, 2006 at 10:24am
“As people do better, they start voting like Republicans – unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing.”
Karl Rove.
“See in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.”
GEORGE w. BUSH
Here’s a great comparison of Goebbels to Bush:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2005/260505newbushism.htm
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:21 pmMy obsession is saving our Republic from those who have stolen it.
Bush and Cheney appear to be willful accomplices in this result.
The evidence required to fulfill your desired goal (which is the topic of this thread), impeachment, will by necessity require a look into AIPAC’s role and the role of the Neocon cabal within the White House, which when referred to by the name “Neocon” seems to be socially acceptable, but when referred to by their real name “Zionists” seems to invoke a near-unanimous Pavlovian response.
I realize that discussions such as this are by their very nature, sensitive, however it is time to speak freely, as it may be our last opportunity to do so if Mr. Chertoff and his Orwellianly named “Patriot Act” are implemented in full force with the next attack upon or “Homeland.” Welcome to “New Speak.”
When Martial Law is implemented, and the Internet becomes fully “Sanitized For Your Protection,” remember that your preferred method of dealing with this dire issue at the present time was to “ignore.”
It is not my goal to write lengthy tomes. It is my goal to change the world for the better in any way I can. Sharing my learnings as they come to me is a small part to play considering how many are dying each day for a lie. Whether or not you choose to ignore what I write is of virtually no consequence to me.
There is NEVER going to be a message thread about 9/11 conspiracies and how Zionism played a starring role in all that has resulted. The Mainstream media is clearly prohibited from addressing this subject.
If not here, then where? If not now, then when?
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:24 pmIt is funny to see the wingnuts blowing o-rings over George Soros yet they see nothing wrong with Fox News and multi-billionaire Rupert Murdoch, a man who owns more tv, newspapers and satellite networks than anyone on the planet.
Soros, they say, must immediately be dismissed yet they watch Fox goggled eyed all day.
Funny stuff.
-GSD
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:26 pmRecent “Bush Lied About Iraq†study funded by George Soros, heavy funder of ThinkProgress.
http://www.bloggernews.net/113312
Comment by good_golly — January 23, 2008 @ 9:59 pm
and a real patriot, helping to expose the treason of Bushco and its supporters.
Anything else? Are there any other freedoms you’d like to try to deny to Americans?
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:27 pmPlunger:
Dude, I see exactly what you mean. Good posts.
I had a ham and cheese sandwich for lunch. What’d you have?
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:27 pmThe Iraqi general, Georges Sada, makes the charges in a 2006 book, “Saddam’s Secrets,†which was ignored by the MSM.
http://www.nysun.com/article/26514
Comment by good_golly — January 23, 2008 @ 10:07 pm
Of course Saddam moved all of his weapons into enemy territory. why not, he was about to be invaded, so why would he need weapons? gg. you’re a brainwashed fu(kwit without the sense of a termite.
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:30 pmRecent “Bush Lied About Iraq†study funded by George Soros, heavy funder of ThinkProgress.
Comment by good_golly — January 23, 2008 @ 9:59 pm
So?
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:30 pmRecent “Bush Lied About Iraq†study funded by George Soros, heavy funder of ThinkProgress.
Comment by good_golly — January 23, 2008 @ 9:59 pm
Thank you, Mr. Soros!
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:31 pmhttp://www.cnn.com/ US/ 9812/ 16/ clinton.iraq.speech/
That’s all you need to know.
Comment by Gin — January 23, 2008 @ 9:52 pm
so between 1998 and 2002, Saddam couldn’t have destroyed his WMD. Or, as the fruitcake gg has suggested, moved them to Syria. Right? is that what you’re saying? Because Clinton’s speec took place over 4 years before Boy George bombed the shit out of an unarmed country, killing thousands of women and children.
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:32 pmYou guys are just not paying attention. George Soros is an acronym for Satan666. Seriously. Billionaires who spend their money on progressive causes? C’mon, he’s obviously just luring us all into the Pit. Real billionaires spend their money slandering middle-of-the-road Democratic presidents with a taste for big-ass girls. Or manipulating the price of silver. Soros is in league with the antichrist. D’oh.
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:34 pmThis is getting disgusting. Okay we know that the Clintons say Bill is just like any old spouse campaigning for their mate. And they are right of course, except that he was the President of the United States!
Now we learn that Clinton is raking in another $20 mil from a multi-billionaire friend for admittedly throwing around his Commander-in-Chief influence to benefit some investment fund. Of course Bill won’t disclose the details of his investment, just like he and Hillary won’t disclose the details of their $500 million dollar “charity” which employed some of their key campaign staffers and to which their campaign contributors have donated tens of millions of dollars. Just like Hillary won’t disclose the official records of her experience as First Lady which she says makes her more qualified than the other candidates. How can they stand for transparency when they obfuscate to mask their greed??
I am sick of this. It’s disgusting. The Clintons have cashed out the Presidency to the tune of Dick Cheney money. When is America going to call them on this?? This is not leadership. It’s greed. Pure and simple. And it’s part of a pattern of smarmy questionable gains – see them in Hillary’s bio on Wikipedia, including the amazing $100,000 she made in 10 months on a $1,000 investment, the $1 million blind trust when Bill took office in 1993 that the Clintons rapidly turned into a whopping $23 million.
If they were simply investors, I would have no problem with these gains. It’s capitalism baby. But that’s not what they ran on. That’s not what they told us. Surprise – another lie! Their platform was not to lead our Nation to get the big bucks. They did not run to not lead our Democratic Party – where have you been Bill for anyone but yourself over the past 7 years?? It’s to the point where even the Democratic Party elders have gone public to tell Bill to grow up.
It’s time to end this. It’s time to end the Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton cycle. I am a Democrat. A staunch Democrat. But I am for them because I think they are more moral and have better values. If it’s Hillary versus McCain I just don’t know. I was having doubts before Bill did the pile on Obama and cashed out his Presidency for this additional $20 mil, and now I really don’t know . . . This is the kind of stuff that turns my stomach.
Obama is worth just over a million. This Rezko stuff is a tiny droplet in the ocean compared to the massive Clinton greed and scandals. Obama has run a clean campaign. He’s been far ahead on POLICY – he was against the Iraq war from the start and he didn’t fall for the patently idiotic Bush bill to declare Iran’s military to be “terrorists” (Clinton lost my respect when she voted for that one, unbelievably, just last Fall). Clinton is playing catchup to Obama on policy, whether it’s her bailout plan or saying we should be more aggressive in going after bin Ladin. Clinton is a bonfire wherever she goes. She will never unify America – she can’t even unify her party. She will burn us up. And without unity there can be no real change, only another leg in the Bush-Clinton saga.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120097424021905843.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/MutualFunds/HillaryClintonMidasTouchAtWork.aspx?page=1
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:35 pmThere is NEVER going to be a message thread about 9/11 conspiracies and how Zionism played a starring role in all that has resulted. The Mainstream media is clearly prohibited from addressing this subject.
If not here, then where? If not now, then when?
plunger, you are doing a great job. I too think that Zionism plays a MAJOR role in US politics and 9/11 is Much, much more than the official BushCo conspiracy theory would have us believe.
Remember…there are Neo-Cons on the Left as well as the Right, and the goal is the Globalization of our entire planet, and the elimination of paper AND gold into a very traceable (the mass population) digital money system. Of course, it will be easier to NOT trace the elite with such as system.
Any elite I do not trust 100%, Murdoch or Soros included. We should trust the Moms, Pops, and everyday people more.
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:41 pmComment by good_golly
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:43 pmHow much info and time do you need to realize your pres is a liar? An f’ing murderous giggling liar of the worst kind.
To paraphrase Taras Bulba:
The republicans tell us to have faith in them, I say put our faith in our swords and our swords in the republicans.
People can only put up with so much, then comes a critical moment when something happens to cause them to take action. Bush appears to make his decisions in an attempt to create that something so he can take action against the common man here in the former democracy of America.
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:50 pmHow much info and time do you need to realize your pres is a liar? An f’ing murderous giggling liar of the worst kind.
Comment by had enough — January 23, 2008 @ 10:43 pm
they’re loyalsists to the end, like Hitler’s minions. Stupid, brainwashed, frightened little turds, without patriotism or the ability to think for themselves. keltoi, gg, bigfoot, the whole crew of deluded cowards who couldn’t defend themselves from a Girl Scout troop, following a coke-addled, dry-drunk deserter as he murders children in their beds so his oilman buddies can send their profits overseas. the very worst of America, conservatives and wingnuts. The very worst.
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:53 pmfrom Gen Zinni: ten crucial mistakes —
“And I think that will be the first mistake that will be recorded in history, the belief that containment as a policy doesn’t work. It certainly worked against the Soviet Union, has worked with North Korea and others. It’s not a pleasant thing to have to administer, it requires troops full-time, there are moments when there … there are periods of violence, but containment is a lot cheaper than the alternative, as we’re finding out now. So I think that will be mistake number one: discounting the effectiveness of the containment.”
IMHO — FWIW — under Clinton, the no-fly zone seemed to be working, allowing the people of Iraq to get rid of Saddam in their own way, not by the “shock and awe” way that GWB “decided.” George sux at being “the decider.”
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:56 pmRecent “Bush Lied About Iraq†study funded by George Soros, heavy funder of ThinkProgress.
http://www.bloggernews.net/113312
Comment by good_golly — January 23, 2008 @ 9:59 pm
Are you implying that Soros made Bush lie?
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:58 pmThe Center has no information on its website about its funding, but the Washington Post reported that “…seed money pledged by such deep-pocketed Democrats as regular liberal financier George Soros ( and mortgage billionaires Herbert and Marion Sandler…†assisted its formation.[2]
The Center helped Congressman John Murtha develop “strategic redeploymentâ€[3], a comprehensive plan for Iraq that includes a timetable and troop withdrawals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/ Center_for_American_Progress
Comment by Gin — January 23, 2008 @ 10:55 pm
And this means…?
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:59 pmRight? I mean anyone who throws millions of dollars into a political cause is bad, right? No?
Comment by gummitch — January 23, 2008 @ 10:12 pm
Or Rupert Murdoch and his porno dollars… Ole Rupert is one of the biggest producers of porn in the country, which also makes him one of the biggest in the world…
January 23rd, 2008 at 11:04 pmUhm, seeing that I could enter anything I want into Wikipedia, it’s not the best of sources. I do believe that the White House (maybe the FBI, I don’t remember which governmental office) was caught doing just that (fudging Wikipedia and blogs), what was it, a year or so ago?
It’s an interesting study in partial truths and truths as others see it. If any student attempted to use it as a source or reference they would probably lose a full grade.
Be it left or right, it’s not always accurate.
And GSD, right on about Rupert! I was going to mention him in an earlier post but let it slide. You are completely spot on there!
January 23rd, 2008 at 11:07 pmYeah, and they were going to use the two son’s toy airplanes to deliver the Weapons of Mass Distraction…
January 23rd, 2008 at 11:08 pmJust a reminder of what the thread is actually about — which the trollies have buried for some reason. :D
The final document, which was issued by then prime minister Tony Blair in September 2002, was at the centre of a government scandal after accusations that the dossier had been ’sexed up’ in order to encourage support for an invasion of Iraq.
This is quite damning.
January 23rd, 2008 at 11:23 pmComment by Gin — January 23, 2008 @ 11:20 pm
Oh. My. God! You. Mean. He. Knows. How. To. Make. Money?
He must be SATAN!
January 23rd, 2008 at 11:24 pmZooey, more damning than the Downing St. memo? The MSM ignored that along with most of the other things that JOURNALISTS used to, at one time, salivate over.
This, too, shall be ignored.
January 23rd, 2008 at 11:25 pmWhat I love about the WMD lie, is that we are supposed to believe, that with the air recon, and satellite support that the US supposedly has, that Saddam was able to sneak WMD’s out of the country and into Syria.
Rhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggtttttttttt
January 23rd, 2008 at 11:27 pmThe final document, which was issued by then prime minister Tony Blair in September 2002, was at the centre of a government scandal after accusations that the dossier had been ’sexed up’ in order to encourage support for an invasion of Iraq.
This is quite damning.
Comment by Zooey — January 23, 2008 @ 11:23 pm
It COULD be incredibly damning. Key word could. It will be very Hmmm worthy to see what comes out in this.
January 23rd, 2008 at 11:32 pmRhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggtttttttttt
Comment by Krazny — January 23, 2008 @ 11:27 pm
Well played, Krazny….
Rhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggtttttttttt…
January 23rd, 2008 at 11:34 pmLOL – the only head to head Dem vs. Rep polls Real Clear Politics will publish are from the LA Times, who are notorious for padding 10 pts onto the Dem spread.
I am sure that the polls over the last week had most every Rep ahead or within a couple points of Hill’reh and Barack, after they started ripping each others gender and race, which means an easy Rep victory.
You must be feeling the whole thing unravel yet again? It should be your year, but you gave the American public too good a look at Pelosi and Reed, which is giving the whole country a moment of pause – do we really want a government consisting of Pelosi, Reed and Hill’reh / Obama? yeesh
January 23rd, 2008 at 11:38 pmIt COULD be incredibly damning. Key word could. It will be very Hmmm worthy to see what comes out in this.
Comment by Keltoi at Night — January 23, 2008 @ 11:32 pm
No doubt you’ll be writing letter to the editor of your newspaper, and your favorite television news station, urging them to cover this story…
January 23rd, 2008 at 11:50 pmNo doubt you’ll be writing letter to the editor of your newspaper, and your favorite television news station, urging them to cover this story…
Comment by Zooey — January 23, 2008 @ 11:50 pm
Ha-ha.
I think it’ll make its way to an outlet or two…
January 24th, 2008 at 12:00 amIraq’s WMD Secreted in Syria, Sada Says
Comment by good_golly — January 23, 2008 @ 10:07 pm
ok golly – this guy released a book in 2006 – it is now 2008 and how come we haven’t heard any alarm bells going off this whole time – if syria are babysitting saddam’s bombs,wouldn’t they be considered a threat to stability in the middle east? – after all,they get along well with the iranians whom people like cheney,bolton and kristol want wiped off the map – and syria and israel aren’t the best of friends either so why haven’t the israelis also brought this issue forward? – and why hasn’t the IAEA gone in to check this out? – why don’t bush and cheney mention syria (who according to sada has WMD’s) in the same breath as iran (who dont have WMD’s) when they talk about starting WWIII?
January 24th, 2008 at 12:05 ami have one theory why – probably because it is all complete and utter bullshit.
“… probably because it is all complete and utter bullshit.”
Comment by shaun — January 24, 2008 @ 12:05 am
DING*DING*DING*DING!!!
We have a winner! Don’t forget to claim yer door prize on the way out!
January 24th, 2008 at 12:10 amI think it’ll make its way to an outlet or two…
Comment by Keltoi at Night — January 24, 2008 @ 12:00 am
Are you a citizen or a resident of this country? A citizen is involved.
January 24th, 2008 at 12:10 amBig Shocker that Soros likes stable and well regulated financial markets to play in. Maybe he understands that the current Republican ‘regulated’ economy is as rotten as their ethics?
We had Saddam so locked down and under supervision, I doubt he could fart without it being heard in Washington. Why do Bush Republicans knowledge extend back to only 2001?
As to Clinton talking tough about Iraq in 1998? Well, duh, what were the neocons doing in the 90’s? They were applying their PNAC pressure on Clinton to get the war going. So he talked tough…BFD. Proof is in his actions. He didn’t start an elective war based on his pre-cooked intel. If he had, I’d have supported his impeachment on that basis, not a trumped up nothing lie about having consensual sex.
January 24th, 2008 at 12:12 amPNAC had everything it needed but it’s “new Pearl Harbor” which they got. PNAC’s goal is to rule the world. Bill Kristol is the Chairman (why do I think he’s closer to a WWE Chairman than an actual chairman, but I digress).
Every one of those PNAC signers is evil to the core.
January 24th, 2008 at 12:28 amEarly draft, eh? I’m sure it will say, the 45 seconds or so is an estimate, somewhat north, east and west of accurate…
January 24th, 2008 at 12:35 amOK, well then 45 minutes…
January 24th, 2008 at 12:35 amGee. If all those weapons were transfered to Syria, why didn’t Chimpy invade Syria? Why didn’t Colin Powell go in front of the U.N. with “damning evidence” of Syria’s WMD stockpile? Is the alleged transport of WMD’s a hunch? A suspicion? A “slam dunk”?
And, why is it that when Israel was taking heat for an air strike against a Syrian target, not one mention of Saddam’s WMD’s “leaked” out?
Sorry trolls. Invisible WMD’s, in a country Chimpy didn’t invade, just make him more wrong.
January 24th, 2008 at 12:36 amOK, well then 45 minutes…
Comment by RUCerious — January 24, 2008 @ 12:35 am
And why in Hell didn’t Saddam, “the new Hitler”, use the damn things?
Either he didn’t have them, which means we invaded illegally. Or, he refused to use them even in defense of his own country, which means we invaded illegally.
January 24th, 2008 at 12:40 amEither he didn’t have them, which means we invaded illegally. Or, he refused to use them even in defense of his own country, which means we invaded illegally.
I’ll go with option A.
January 24th, 2008 at 12:43 amOff Topic:
Here’s a site I just discovered, “Fundies say the Darndest Things”. It’s a tremendous example of Fundamentalist “logic”. I wonder how many of our trolls have been quoted there?
http://www.fstdt.com/default.aspx
January 24th, 2008 at 12:51 amTONY LIER IS A WAR CRIMINAL! HAGUE 2009!!!!
January 24th, 2008 at 1:06 amI see that the pathetic trolls continue to grasp at straws and claw into the muck at the bottom of the barrel to feed their self-delusions. Bunch of freaks is what they are. My how they’ve painted themselves into a corner in their desperate bid to support Bush, the worst president ever.
January 24th, 2008 at 3:01 amThe workers and the poor of this world have always been pushed into killing others just like themselves, workers and poor, by rich people and politicians who get richer and more powerful from their blood. While they lead us into squabbles over abortion, school prayer and who should marry whom, they are stealing us blind and taking away our rights day by day. They’ll stop at nothing to get what they want or perceive to deserve. They think they are special.
Why do we let such a tiny fraction of humanity ruin this world for the rest of us? Wouldn’t it be nice if a few million marched into Washington, D.C. to confront the congress about what they are doing with OUR money and demanded it back so we could better manage it? And when they said no we just beat the ever-loving shit out of them. Let’s not forget the other lower forms of self serving scum, the lobbyists, too. They and their kind should be beaten and then outlawed forever!
Everyone crap out a good sized turd, box it up and send it to a member of congress. Maybe then they’ll begin to get the message. Try to imagine several million turds arriving in Washington D.C. at about the same time. Wow, this could quite possibly be the closest we can get to actually shitting on a politician! I need a box…
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January 24th, 2008 at 4:30 amBush’s 2 Trillion Dollar “lie” and how many of our men unnecessarily murdered?? It’s mind boggling and incredibly criminal. I’d imagine that he will spend the rest of his lifetime in prison along with his sidekick.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:16 amMax – 1: It’s called “lying” – not fixing facts. The facts remain as truth. They’ve lied and covered the truth but the truth of it all still remains buried under their lies. The people are digging; the scientists are digging; and the global consciousness is shifting (thanks to the Brits now) to uncover the truth. Once this truth is uncovered, this country will begin to make sense out of the incredible decay of what’s been built on this foundation of lies. There is nothing wholesome that can be built on a faux foundation which is why everything that this administration has done is crumbling before their very eyes.
Actually, when the ultimate dots are connected, we will see that stealing the 2000 election was a “must” for this lie to be perpetuated. 911 was a foregone conclusion of PNAC well in advance of Bush’s election in 2000 along with the Patriot Act to control the people in the event that their little diabolical plan were to either be revealed or fail.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:20 amMax – It’s the “law of karma” – Bush lied; people died. Now he has the blood of all of these people on his hands. Each lie carries a karmic debt. One can only wonder how far into his lineage this debt will prevail and destroy. Of course, he doesn’t care – as evidenced by his disrespect for the planet.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:21 amgolly garsh, you wouldn’t recognize a fact if it bit you on the buttocks.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:56 amExcuse golly_goofy. He drives fence posts into the ground with his head and the side effects are noticeable.
January 24th, 2008 at 9:06 amDr David Kelly a weapons expert said Blair was telling lies and was killed by American agents on British soil – alledgedly
January 24th, 2008 at 9:58 amDr David Kelly a weapons expert said Blair was telling lies and was killed by American agents on British soil – alledgedly
if anyone did it, it was us brits.
January 24th, 2008 at 10:46 am