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Does Safire disapprove of Kristol at NYT?

The New York Times hired Bill Kristol as a weekly columnist with a conservative voice to replace William Safire, who retired in 2005. On Jan. 13, NYT public editor Clark Hoyt said of Kristol’s hiring: “This is a decision I would not have made.” Gabriel Sherman at The New Republic reports that when reached by phone for reaction, Safire told him: “I saw the excellent piece that the public editor wrote the other day, and that pretty much tells the story.”



14 Responses to “Does Safire disapprove of Kristol at NYT?”

  1. natisman says:

    So Safire smelled Kristoline scat editorial and it smelled nice to him. thank you but I don’t need to do that, Do you?


  2. Zimzone says:

    I believe it’s safe to say the only person supporting this is Billy Krisco himself.


  3. Zimzone says:

    Billy Krisco’s idea of a stimulus package is Jeff Gannon.


  4. lefttown says:

    OT, but important: Jell-o Jay is on the Senate floor right now, trying to justify Bush’s spy program and to give telecoms immunity (”they were being patriotic”). If you can, call or write any Senator and tell them to vote against Harry Reid’s bill. Glenn Greenwald’s site and Firedoglake are both watching this very carefully. There have been lots of phone calls and emails to all the Senators. Add your voice if you can.


  5. Peter C says:

    “They were being patriotic” might be a mitigating factor, but it is NOT a basis for retroactive immunity!


  6. gummitch says:

    Safire was old school conservative, not a pompous neocon like Kristol. I may have disagreed with him on a regular basis, but at least he could be taken seriously and built his arguments on real information and real thought. He wasn’t a grinning, stupid baboon like Kristol.


  7. gummitch says:

    And by referring to Safire in the past tense, I meant “Safire’s columns”. Obviously, he’s not dead.


  8. nanlichi says:

    I agree gummitch, I could read Safire’s opinions and even though I would disagree with most of it, I could see where he was coming from and how he arrived at his opinion. Kristol’s a pure liar, creating facts from whole cloth to support his pre-determined conclusions.


  9. woodguy says:

    OT, but important: Jell-o Jay is on the Senate floor right now, trying to justify Bush’s spy program and to give telecoms immunity (”they were being patriotic”). If you can, call or write any Senator and tell them to vote against Harry Reid’s bill. Glenn Greenwald’s site and Firedoglake are both watching this very carefully. There have been lots of phone calls and emails to all the Senators. Add your voice if you can.

    Comment by lefttown — January 24, 2008 @ 10:12 am

    “Being patriotic” means honoring your oath of office, which states you will “protect and defend the Constitution of the United States”, not follow the twisted path of a wannabe dictator and his synchophantic lemmings.


  10. Peter C says:

    “Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel” – Samuel Johnson

    Let’s hope he was right about the ‘last’ part.


  11. Marie says:

    I usually disagreed with Safire’s opinions, but I respected his long tenure as a columnist who looked at the issues and came to a different conclusion than I.
    I join nanlichi and gummitch on this.


  12. raynman says:

    Liberals, Progressives, Conservatives… at one time, we all got along (mostly) and had good vigorous debate. It was healthy for the country to have these diverse viewpoints and exchange of ideas.

    Then neo-Conservativism came along and poisoned the well.


  13. lefttown says:

    Now Feingold is speaking. Go, Feingold!!!


  14. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Liberals, Progressives, Conservatives… at one time, we all got along (mostly) and had good vigorous debate. It was healthy for the country to have these diverse viewpoints and exchange of ideas.

    Then neo-Conservativism came along and poisoned the well.

    Comment by raynman — January 24, 2008 @ 10:47 am

    Well said, raynman. And the reason they poisoned the well is because they realized it was the only way they could win any support. An honest debate wouldn’t do, because their positions were and are built on faith rather than facts. The America they wanted to create would never appeal to middle America, liberal or conservative, so they had to adopt a hysterical patriotism, strike a devil’s bargain with the religious right, and use divide-and-conquer politics in order to install an unqualified figurehead in the White House.



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