Gibson Defends His Mockery Of Ledger’s Death: ‘No Point In Passing Up A Good Joke’
Gibson Defends His Mockery Of Ledger’s Death: ‘No Point In Passing Up A Good Joke’
On his radio show yesterday, Fox News host John Gibson responded to ThinkProgress’ criticism of his comments mocking the death of Heath Ledger, saying that it was just “a little Brokeback Mountain joke” and there is “no point in passing up a good joke.”
Without offering any sort of apology, Gibson defended his callous comments by claiming that “for months and months and months,” his show has consistently made fun of the line, “I wish I knew how to quit you” from Brokeback Mountain. “I’m not giving that up,” exclaimed Gibson:
GIBSON: How many months did we live off that line, Brokeback Mountain?
BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN CLIP: I wish I knew how to quit you.
ANGRY RICH: Several.
GIBSON: I mean, it was going on for months and months and months.
BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN CLIP: Wooee, yeah!
GIBSON: I’m not giving that up.
Listen to it:
On MSNBC’s Morning Joe this morning, host Joe Scarborough described the homophobic undertones of Gibson’s “little Brokeback Mountain joke,” calling it “mean-spirited and hateful” that “if you make a movie about being gay, your death becomes a punchline.”
When Gibson’s sidekick, Angry Rich, read him a negative comment left by a ThinkProgress reader (which the site does not endorse) calling the Fox News host “a closet homosexual,” Gibson responded by laughing and quipping “well, I’m still breathing”:
ANGRY RICH: You’re “a closet homosexual.” That’s the first one.
GIBSON: Oh, I am?
ANGRY RICH: Apparently.
GIBSON: Ha ha ha, well I’m still breathing. There’s the difference right there.
Don’t let Gibson “get away” with his “callous and harsh” remarks. Contact Fox News and John Gibson. Or give his radio show a call at 1-866-868-6861.
UPDATE: GLAAD has started a petition asking Fox News “why they continue to provide a platform for John Gibson’s cruel and tasteless comments.”
UPDATE II: Perez Hilton identifies a list of Fox News’ current advertisers.
UPDATE III: Media Matters has more from later in yesterday’s radio show.
Transcript:
JOHN GIBSON: There is a war on Gibson. And, eventhough Gibson’s always right, there is a war.ANNOUNCER: The war against Gibson continues.
GIBSON: Thought we were gonna do that next hour, but just to give you a heads up about it, I did this, an hour yesterday on Heath Ledger on my TV show because he was like, still warm. I got an e-mail Angry Rich just moments ago…
ANGRY RICH: Yeah.
GIBSON: From somebody who said that I was just a horrible lowlife, awful person for mocking the death..da da da da da da…News!
ANGRY RICH: John, the start of yesterday’s show is now prominently featured on ThinkProgress, the George Soros operation, yes.
GIBSON: What did…
ANGRY RICH: It says, “John Gibson Mocks ‘Weirdo’ Heath Ledger’s Death.”
GIBSON: Did I mock him?
ANGRY RICH: “He Found Out How To Quit You.” Quote-unquote.
GIBSON: Oh, that. Ha ha ha, well…
ANGRY RICH: A little satire.
GIBSON: Yeah, it’s a little Brokeback Mountain joke.
ANGRY RICH: We feel bad about it, c’mon.
GIBSON: Yeah, I mean, I feel bad about his death, but that’s…
ANGRY RICH: Horrible.
GIBSON: No point.
BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN CLIP: I wish I knew how to quit you.
GIBSON: That’s no point in passing up a good joke. I mean, how many months did we live off that line, Brokeback Mountain?
BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN CLIP: I wish I knew how to quit you.
ANGRY RICH: Several.
GIBSON: I mean, it was going on for months and months and months.
BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN CLIP: Wooee, yeah!
GIBSON: I’m not giving that up.
ANGRY RICH: “The comments are unfortunate.”
GIBSON: Oh are they? They’re going after me over it?
ANGRY RICH: Oh yeah.
GIBSON: Mmmk, well, it’s the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, but…
ANGRY RICH: You’re “a closet homosexual.” That’s the first one.
GIBSON: Oh, I am?
ANGRY RICH: Apparently.
GIBSON: Ha ha ha, well I’m still breathing. There’s the difference right there.
ANGRY RICH: I guess.
GIBSON: Christine, it took you so long to get that? I mean, I was like counting the seconds there.
ANGRY RICH: “Gibson will be whining tomorrow that his words were taken out of context.”
GIBSON: No, I meant them, whatever they were. I don’t remember what they were, but whatever they were, I meant them.
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Think of all the jokes that will be told when John Gibson is dead.
January 24th, 2008 at 3:51 pmWhat goes around comes around, John.
“JOHN GIBSON: There is a war on Gibson. And, eventhough Gibson’s always right, there is a war.”
What a huge ego powering a small mind.
January 24th, 2008 at 3:52 pmThe day will come when Gibson has health problems, marital problems, caught tapping his toe in the john, suggesting vibrator sex with an employee, getting his housekeeper to buy him drugs illegally or he’ll just die. I’d say that will be funny too, but it’s just as fun to watch a sad pathetic man try & lift his useless career by demeaning others.
January 24th, 2008 at 3:53 pmSUGGESTION: Let’s start seeing interviews and quotes from progressives on TP instead of idiots. Like Thom Hartmann? Like Barbara Lee? Like Russ Feingold? Like Barbara Boxer?
all right….so you do have one from Barbara! Now let’s have a few more.
Thanks.
January 24th, 2008 at 3:54 pmWhat a huge ego powering a small mind.
That’s why his hair is so big.
January 24th, 2008 at 3:54 pmOf course! Why didn’t we see this earlier?!
It was all a part of the War on Gibsonâ„¢!
I guess that makes it okay. Well, that and the claim that Gibby “feels bad about his death”. Nyuck nyuck.
January 24th, 2008 at 3:55 pmdisgusting pig
January 24th, 2008 at 3:56 pmGIBSON: Mmmk, well, it’s the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, but…
I pick the “Not to be” option for John. Of course, he’ll never debate with himself on “whether ’tis nobler”, only what gets him attention and money.
January 24th, 2008 at 3:57 pmJohn, John, John — when you’re in a hole, quit digging!
January 24th, 2008 at 3:58 pmI can “pass up” a bad joke, though. And that would be … John Gibson (and FauxSnooze).
Cheers,
January 24th, 2008 at 3:58 pmSUGGESTION: Let’s start seeing interviews and quotes from progressives on TP instead of idiots. Like Thom Hartmann? Like Barbara Lee? Like Russ Feingold? Like Barbara Boxer?
all right….so you do have one from Barbara! Now let’s have a few more.
Thanks.
Comment by Evergreen2U — January 24, 2008 @ 3:54 pm
I made this same suggestion at least a year ago. I like the “idiot threads” but I’d like some balance.
January 24th, 2008 at 3:59 pmNeo-cons really have trouble with humor. It seems the best they can manage is schadenfruede. Perhaps they don’t have the empathy for it. They just aren’t funny - intentionally.
January 24th, 2008 at 3:59 pmJohn, John, John — when you’re in a hole, quit digging!
Comment by missmolly — January 24, 2008 @ 3:58 pm
I was ,thinking the same thing, miss m. But then I figured, why would a burrowing rodent want to stop his digging? He lives in the dirt.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:00 pmGIBSON: Ha ha ha, well I’m still breathing. There’s the difference right there.
What’s the difference? Other closeted homosexuals do not breath? Huh?
January 24th, 2008 at 4:01 pmgeesh!
what is it with these hypocritical hatemongers? so many of them look like televangelists!
i bet he’s a bathroom stall tap dancer too.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:01 pmralph,
I gotta go. If the school bus drives around here, would you “Beep! Beep!” it once for me?
January 24th, 2008 at 4:02 pmWow. Gibson reads TP.
I wonder if he posts here as well. I wonder what his moniker might be…
January 24th, 2008 at 4:03 pmANGRY RICH: You’re “a closet homosexual.†That’s the first one.
GIBSON: Oh, I am?
ANGRY RICH: Apparently.
GIBSON: Ha ha ha, well I’m still breathing. There’s the difference right there.
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What is this? Does John think he “wins” because he’s still breathing? This is something to gloat about?
January 24th, 2008 at 4:03 pmTroll diversions about Clinton, the economy, etc., in 5….4….3….2….1….
January 24th, 2008 at 4:03 pmMaybe Gibby should leave the jokes to a professional comedian.
Jon Stewart, maybe. Or Al Franken. These men have studied comedy and made their livings from it. They recognize the importance of timing. Delivery. And most importantly, taste.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:04 pmWow. Gibson reads TP.
I wonder if he posts here as well. I wonder what his moniker might be…
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 4:03 pm
Gotta be Frank M.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:04 pmWhat is this? Does John think he “wins†because he’s still breathing? This is something to gloat about?
Comment by missmolly — January 24, 2008 @ 4:03 pm
That was a very strange exchange. What does he mean “there’s the difference right there”?
January 24th, 2008 at 4:05 pmwar on Gibson, huh? I bet this scumbag never spent a day in the military, let alone be in a real war.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:05 pmI made this same suggestion at least a year ago. I like the “idiot threads†but I’d like some balance.
Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian — January 24, 2008 @ 3:59 pm
I wouldn’t mind a little good news once in awhile, either. A little article about some positive contribution made by a progressive. Of course, if I wasn’t so lazy I’d write it myself and offer it as a post. I guess I’m not the only slacker here.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:05 pmYou, sir, are an idiot. Anyone that would allow you to be a host on their radio is a bad businessman.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:08 pmActually the difference is that Heath Ledger wasn’t a homosexual, he just played one in a movie. Much like Gibson isn’t a human being, he just plays one on the tv/radio, and not very well. I hope he sees the similarity between his words & those of Fred Phelps. That’s good company he keeps.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:08 pmgay men hating other gay men? perhaps this is the perverted version of eharmony?
January 24th, 2008 at 4:08 pmANGRY RICH: John, the start of yesterday’s show is now prominently featured on ThinkProgress, the George Soros operation, yes.
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Hey, Faiz — is this true? Do we have a sugar daddy in Soros? Is he the one to hit up whenever we want more bells and whistles on this site?
January 24th, 2008 at 4:09 pmComment by Dave C — January 24, 2008 @ 4:08 pm
So, gibby is happy that an actor who played a gay cowboy is dead because he happen to play a gay cowboy. Brilliant. Gibson and Phelps should hang out.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:09 pmNo man is an island, entire of itself
every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main
if a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were,
as well as if a manor of thy friends or of thine own were
any man’s death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind
and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls
it tolls for thee.
– John Donne
some day you’ll be dead too gibby.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:10 pmHey, Faiz — is this true? Do we have a sugar daddy in Soros? Is he the one to hit up whenever we want more bells and whistles on this site?
Comment by missmolly — January 24, 2008 @ 4:09 pm
According to the reich-wing, everything not on Faux or AM hate radio is a Soros operation.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:10 pmHey John Gibson: This is the first time I’ve ever heard of you, and I can tell you that you haven’t made any new fans with your idiotic remarks about Heath Ledger. He was an excellent actor whose untimely death is tragic. He is sorely missed already. What is wrong with people like you? I am offended at your remarks. Go f@ck yourself with a cactus, stat. I hope you are fired from your “job.”
January 24th, 2008 at 4:12 pm“Think Progress?” The only progress I’m thinking about is that Fox should fire your ass.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:13 pmIsn’t it horrible to hate yourself so much that you transfer that emnity to other people just because they’re different (or in a real stretch, because they play a movie character who’s different)….
January 24th, 2008 at 4:14 pmGibson is human garbage
January 24th, 2008 at 4:14 pmWhat do Naomi Watts, Michelle Williams, an Olsen twin, and several other beautiful and talented women have in common?? They never dated nor went out with a certain Fox blabbing mouth. Perhaps John boy is just really jealous of the rugged individualism of a celebrity who could attract and arouse legions of male and female citizens of the world. His jokes are his own pathetic attempt to desperately climb upon even the tiniest of pedestals (something about that word that perhaps Mr Gibson would find funny in his own sick and perverted way).
January 24th, 2008 at 4:16 pmjust wait until Pat Robertson or Huckabee comes out with something stupid like:
god punished him for portraying a homosexual.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:19 pm“Soros operation”= we got nothing of substance to say.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:21 pmGibson is a flaming idiot in the same class of trash as Bill O’Reilly, Ann Coulter, Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and others who say all things absurd so as to generate controversy and keep themselves and their minions employed.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:21 pmJust ignore them and their troll supporters. Pretty soon they may realize they’re in an empty room.
Hey, Faiz — is this true? Do we have a sugar daddy in Soros? Is he the one to hit up whenever we want more bells and whistles on this site?
Comment by missmolly — January 24, 2008 @ 4:09 pm
George Soros once bought Faiz a root beer. Now everything that appears on Think Progress is “funded by George Soros”.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:22 pm/wave
Hi, John Gibson!
While I’ve got you here, let me ask you: Were you born with the innate ability to be a complete homophobic and insensitive ass, or did you have to work really hard at it?
January 24th, 2008 at 4:22 pmalright, I’m bored and clearly all of the decent trolls have been chased away. so for the sake of argument, I will take the opposing view:
1) Free Speech. Gibson can say whatever he likes
2) I wouldn’t pass up a good joke, either
3) Gays are funny. Have you seen “The Birdcage” or “Hedwig and the Angry Inch” Simply put, gay stereotypes make for good comedy.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:24 pm3) Gays are funny. Have you seen “The Birdcage†or “Hedwig and the Angry Inch†Simply put, gay stereotypes make for good comedy.
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 4:24 pm
Ledger isn’t/wasn’t gay. He played a gay character once.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:29 pmGIBSON: That’s no point in passing up a good joke. I mean, how many months did we live off that line, Brokeback Mountain?
BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN CLIP: I wish I knew how to quit you.
ANGRY RICH: Several.
GIBSON: I mean, it was going on for months and months and months.
BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN CLIP: Wooee, yeah!
GIBSON: I’m not giving that up.
Who’s this “we” ?
You pair of morons and your 3 listeners ?
When you’re one of the lowest rated “personalities” on TV and radio , don’t you ever wonder why and/or look for ways to get more viewers/listeners ?
Here’s a start : ………………………..QUIT , and try a new career ; you suck at your present job.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:30 pmHere’s a start : ………………………..QUIT , and try a new career ; you suck at your present job.
Comment by MCMetal — January 24, 2008 @ 4:30 pm
I know where they’re hiring part-time bus drivers.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:33 pmLook at Gib’s picture….and ask yourself….would I let this guy babysit my kids?…….he will join Imus as we take out hate radio/TV jocks.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:34 pmThere is no sense in trying to make these people at Fox feel guilty or feel ashamed of anything they said or done.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:35 pmThese guys at Fox playing the ‘perfect’,..the ‘complete’.
So they can mock anybody who disagrees with them…and that’s their job all day.
They feel superior,and they will not change or listen due to this.
They in my opinion are arrogant,racist..who think they are on a mission to change people who disagree with them,and they have the right to insult people too who disagree with them.
So talking to Gibson who thinks always he is right, just like O’Reilly and the whole gang in Fox will not change anything. The best thing is put them on ignore…and don’t watch Fox network…
Gibson will being playing the victim by tonight; he’ll claim he was taken our of context and that libruls hate free speech. Expect fellow reich-wing loons like Hannity and O’Racist to come to his defense.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:37 pmComment by wisedup
You should never let ANY Republican watch your kids. You could find them either molested or sold on the black market. Especially John “Powder” Gibson.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:38 pmdim wit, I’ll go a different route and just make fun of Gibson’s picture. His face has the impression that he’s not wearing any pants and at least one of his hands is involved in an exercise.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:41 pmJohn Gibson is a radical extremist who literally advocates domestic terrorist attacks HERE and calls for the death of Americans. He should be jailed as a terrorist sympathizer and for making terrorist threats.
If another terror attack does happen, John Gibson, his producers, FoxNews, and the advertisers on his show should be held FULLY liable and personally responsible. They should be tried in criminal court (or military tribunal) and/or sued in civil court.
http://thinkprogress.org/ 2007/ 08/ 11/ bykofsky-right-wing/
January 24th, 2008 at 4:43 pmHey, anyone seen the Short Bus? I promised PLC I’d beep at it for him.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:43 pmPlease refer to him by his white supremacist code name “Powder”!
January 24th, 2008 at 4:43 pmDoes Gibson lambast the CA gov for being a cyborg from the future? Does he buy the pain reliever that the actor who plays a doctor on TV recommends? Does he believe all terrorist plots are foiled just like on ‘24′? Does Gibson realize that something being on a screen doesn’t mean that it’s real and in fact, if so t probably mean that it is fiction? Maybe someone should let him know, else he may make of fool of himself.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:43 pmI usually prefer not to comment on someone else’s physical appearance, but John Gibson could do better. It makes me wonder what he is trying to accomplish.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:44 pmJust gotta say:
Bad publicity for John “I’ve never really said anything relevant” Gibson.
Good publicty for ThinkProgress.
AWESOME!!!
January 24th, 2008 at 4:48 pmPOWDER!!!!
January 24th, 2008 at 4:49 pmFREE SPEECH OR DIE!
You either believe in it for everyone or no one. Stop the hypocrisy!
January 24th, 2008 at 4:50 pmI will repeat a line from my father I have used here before in keeping with ‘what do you expect?’ My late father used to say of the Gibsons of the world, “What do you expect from a PIG, but a grunt!” Enough said.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:50 pmNo point in passing up a good joke, huh? I guess that’s why Fox keeps your show on their air. What a piece of sh*t this guy is. You’re no better than Fred Phelps.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:50 pmLedger isn’t/wasn’t gay. He played a gay character once.
Comment by Dr. Matt — January 24, 2008 @ 4:29 pm
yes yes, exactly.
Gibson was making the joke regarding the gay character. If you consider the context of the joke, he was really joking about Ledger’s character and not Ledger himself.
Look at the transcript. The transcript doesn’t use Ledger personal voice, but rather uses his character from the movie.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:52 pmThe hate that is post on here daily
Comment by Southern Man — January 24, 2008 @ 4:50 pm
Agreed. Some of the vile, disgusting, hatred posts like John Kerry, Liberals are full of Hate, Frank M, and Roger_Roger are intolerable.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:53 pmThanks for not supporting the likes of those.
FREE SPEECH OR DIE!
You either believe in it for everyone or no one. Stop the hypocrisy!
Comment by drago — January 24, 2008 @ 4:50 pm
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; ”
Its free speech. Its what we stand for!
January 24th, 2008 at 4:54 pmHey, anyone seen the Short Bus? I promised PLC I’d beep at it for him.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — January 24, 2008 @ 4:43 pm
No. I have a feeling he won’t be back with that name though. beep-beep.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:55 pmThey just happen to be on the other side of Gibson, so what they say is ok. The funny thing is, they will never understand or see themselves as being like Gibson, because they choose different words or tactics to say basically the same things. People who are different in here, receive the same hate you referrence above.
Comment by Southern Man — January 24, 2008 @ 4:50 pm
Um, they also don’t get on the public airwaves & broadcast their hate over the radio/tv. Nor do they laugh when others die. Bit of a distinction there.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:55 pmYou must be wondering if Gibson is stupid enough to think that Ledger was actually gay, after fathering a two year old child.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:57 pmDan Abrams had good coverage of this. Dan also stated that the Phelps clan is planning action for the funeral.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:59 pmGibson needs to be held accountable…yeah, I know….good luck.
Southern Man, I have to agree with you on this one.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:01 pmVile and disgusting, huh? It’s pretty pathetic that you show up here dropping O’Reilly catchphrases in place of actual discussion.
Tell me, do you have to take the plastic wrapping off those before you use them or is it more like you just cut and paste his phrases from FOX?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:01 pmSince Think Progress encouraged we contact John Gibson to speak out against the awful remarks he made about Heath Leader, here’s the email I just sent to him . . .
January 24th, 2008 at 5:05 pmIts free speech. Its what we stand for!
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 4:54 pm
It’s also what we’re doing. We have the right to voice our opinions over crap like this. Advertisers have the right to yank their ads if they feel that someone like Gibson isn’t representing their products/companies the way they want them represented. It’s all free. Funny how when a Democrat says something a Republican disagrees with the freedom is quickly curtailed.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:05 pmJOHN GIBSON YOU ARE UGLY! NO BECAUSE YOU ATTACKED A DEAD MAN, I MEAN YOU ARE UGLY LOOKING. YOU SHOULD BE AFRAID TO SHOW THAT FACE IN PUBLIC. HOW DOES THAT FEEL TO KNOW YOU ARE UGLY?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:05 pmIf Coulter was hit by a train tomorrow, believe me, there would be cheers and jokes galore. †Her adams apple must have stepped in front of the train!†etc….
Comment by Southern Man — January 24, 2008 @ 5:03 pm
Another reich-winger living in fantasies and hypotheticals. How typical.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:06 pmNot the same. Coulter incites and relishes the hatred. Gibson is picking on someone who was really not maintaining a high profile politically.
Coulter deserves what she gets. Plus as far as we know she hasn’t fathered a child.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:06 pmThere is an audience here in my opinion. Does it matter how hate gets out? Hate is hate, right? If Coulter was hit by a train tomorrow, believe me, there would be cheers and jokes galore. †Her adams apple must have stepped in front of the train!†etc….
Comment by Southern Man — January 24, 2008 @ 5:03 pm
Hate is sometimes justified. I hated the actions of Hitler. And GWB. They used their power to cause the deaths of hundreds of thousands. What was it that Heath Ledger did that justifies mocking him after he’s dead? Oh right, he played a homosexual in a movie. You’re right, it’s totally the same.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:07 pmI pray that Mann Coulter lives a long life and continues to appear regularly on the reich-wing MSM. “Her” very hateful existence just continues to prove how reich-wingers are out of touch with reality and that they condone hate.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:09 pmI think also there is a difference between celebrating someone’s death and making jokes in what amounted to a comedy routine about it.
And no, it would not be a nice thing to see people make jokes about a conservative’s death but at the same time I will not sit here and be lectured by any conservative about what constitutes civility and right or wrong. Please.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:11 pmIt’s also what we’re doing. We have the right to voice our opinions over crap like this.
Comment by Dave C — January 24, 2008 @ 5:05 pm
I never said you couldn’t voice your opinion.
Also, Republicans are hypocritical a$$holes. Unfortunately, the Dems are too cowardly to ever call the Repubs on their bullshit.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:12 pmI think also there is a difference between celebrating someone’s death and making jokes in what amounted to a comedy routine about it.
Comment by lefty — January 24, 2008 @ 5:11 pm
Howard Stern regularly mocks people’s death. I have not listened to him in years, but I can’t imagine there wasn’t a joke or two concerning Ledger’s death on his radio show.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:16 pmHoward Stern regularly mocks people’s death. I have not listened to him in years, but I can’t imagine there wasn’t a joke or two concerning Ledger’s death on his radio show.
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 5:16 pm
Howard Stern doesn’t sell himself as a newscaster. I don’t watch Gibson ever, or FoxNews for that matter. But is Gibson selling himself as a shock jock or a reputable news guy?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:18 pmGibson was making the joke regarding the gay character. If you consider the context of the joke, he was really joking about Ledger’s character and not Ledger himself.
Look at the transcript. The transcript doesn’t use Ledger personal voice, but rather uses his character from the movie.
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 4:52 pm
Yeah, I did look at the transcript. Did you? What was gibby implying by this:
ANGRY RICH: You’re “a closet homosexual.†That’s the first one.
GIBSON: Oh, I am?
ANGRY RICH: Apparently.
GIBSON: Ha ha ha, well I’m still breathing. There’s the difference right there.
We’re waiting…..
January 24th, 2008 at 5:19 pmComment by dim wit
So? Is Howard Stern here? What the hell does he have to do with anything? Did i say somewhere that I think Howard Stern is some kind of great liberal?
HE’S A RADIO PERSONALITY. The point we are making is that they are idiots!
January 24th, 2008 at 5:20 pmYou are too dense!
Comment by Southern Man — January 24, 2008 @ 5:16 pm
Southern Idiot, you haven’t once commented about Gibby’s comments. Rather, as a typical reich-winger, have attempted to take the thread off-topic and attack the folks at TP. Southern Idiot, step up to plate for once in your life and attempt to stay on topic.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:20 pmComment by Southern Man — January 24, 2008 @ 5:16 pm
First explain what Heath Ledger has done to justify mocking his death. And if you can’t do that then ask Dr. Matt if he mocked John Wayne when he died.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:22 pmGIBSON: How many months did we live off that line, Brokeback Mountain?
Comment by Dr. Matt — January 24, 2008 @ 5:19 pm
Actually, yes I did:
BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN CLIP: I wish I knew how to quit you.
ANGRY RICH: Several.
GIBSON: I mean, it was going on for months and months and months.
BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN CLIP: Wooee, yeah!
GIBSON: I’m not giving that up.
You’ll notice the phrase “Brokeback Mountain Clip” and not the phrase “Heath Ledger”
January 24th, 2008 at 5:23 pmLook at the transcript. The transcript doesn’t use Ledger personal voice, but rather uses his character from the movie.
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 4:52 pm
Ledger’s character didn’t just die. Surely you get the difference.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:24 pmPlease refer to comments made by Air America’s talk show host Lionel in regard to Steve Irwin’s death. All the liberals’ crying that this is typical of conservatives should reevaluate. This Lionel character said something just as horrific after Irwin’s death on a liberal talk show. Gibson’s remarks do not reflect the attitudes and opinions of all conservatives, so people need to stop suggesting that.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:24 pmComment by lefty — January 24, 2008 @ 5:20 pm
I’m really glad you and TP are here to protect me from anyone making any comments I might find objectionable.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:25 pmComment by Southern Man — January 24, 2008 @ 5:22 pm
You remind of a typical, lowly angry reich-winger.
Again….you still haven’t stepped up….go figure. Keep ranting about mAnn Coulter, dolt.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:26 pm“Free Speech” doesn’t mean that everything spoken is Good.
We have every right to call out the tasteless and classless commentary that passes for right-wing punditry these days. It’s our duty to point out the illogic and the hateful undercurrents that poison our public discourse.
Free Speech comes with responsibility. Too many talking bobbleheads act like they bear no responsibility for what they say or how it’s perceived.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:27 pmGibson was making the joke regarding the gay character. If you consider the context of the joke, he was really joking about Ledger’s character and not Ledger himself.
Look at the transcript. The transcript doesn’t use Ledger personal voice, but rather uses his character from the movie.
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 4:52 pm
Yeah, I did look at the transcript. Did you? What was gibby implying by this:
ANGRY RICH: You’re “a closet homosexual.†That’s the first one.
GIBSON: Oh, I am?
ANGRY RICH: Apparently.
GIBSON: Ha ha ha, well I’m still breathing. There’s the difference right there.
We’re still waiting…….
January 24th, 2008 at 5:27 pmFuture News:
January 24th, 2008 at 5:28 pm“John Gibson, talk-jock at a small midwest radio station and a former FOX personality was severely injured today. Apparently, his mass of hair, hardened and heavy-ladened by six cans of hairspray found nearby, caused him to loose balance and break through a glass table which then caused the candle on the table to catch his hair on fire and exploding. The explosion took out the entire second floor of the rented studio apartment he shared with a co-worker who had recently been kicked out of his apartment for hosting Tupperware parties.”
Once again I ask - Lionel!?!
Do you REALLY think there are that many Lionel fans here? Are you confusing TP with AARP?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:28 pmWhen I tried to contact both Fox News and John Gibson, my email was returned because their server would not accept any emails. Hummmmmm. Must be getting a lot of them.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:28 pmYOUR A WASTE OF SPACE ON THIS EARTH GIBSON!!!!!!! RIP HEATH…U WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN!!!!
January 24th, 2008 at 5:29 pmYou’ll notice the phrase “Brokeback Mountain Clip†and not the phrase “Heath Ledgerâ€
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 5:23 pm
You’ll notice the phrase, “Ha ha ha, well I’m still breathing. There’s the difference right there.” in response to “you’re a closet homosexual” remark.
Is this getting too difficult for you?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:29 pmcoco, who is this “Lionel”? I occasionally hear Air America, and other progressive radio hosts, but I’ve never heard of this “Lionel”.
What were his comments?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:29 pmLedger’s character didn’t just die. Surely you get the difference.
Comment by Dave C — January 24, 2008 @ 5:24 pm
I’m starting to believe that’s the issue…..reich-wingers have no concept of reality (look at southern idiot and gibby for evidence).
January 24th, 2008 at 5:31 pmTopeka’s Westboro Baptist church says it intends to protest Heath Ledger’s memorial service because he played a gay character in “Brokeback Mountain.”
In a news release from the church, Shirley Phelps-Roper says that she and other members will picket Ledger’s memorial services in the United States, not those held in his native Australia.
“You cannot live in defiance of God,” she said. “He got on that big screen with a big, fat message: God is a liar and it’s OK to be gay.”
January 24th, 2008 at 5:31 pmIt’s funny how one of YOUR Fox morons does this and your response here is to try to get us to defend Lionel and Howard Stern.
It reminds me of the movie Enemy Mine in which the human character tells the alien he worships Mickey Mouse and the alien spends the rest of the movie trashing the human’s “God”.
You really need to work on your game. It’s absolutely pathetic.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:32 pmLedger’s character didn’t just die. Surely you get the difference.
Comment by Dave C — January 24, 2008 @ 5:24 pm
So, it was insensitive. Are we really that scared of someone who is going to make insensitive comments?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:32 pmhttp://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/ 2008/ 01/ liberal-talk-host-cheers-irwins-death.html
There you go.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:32 pmGibson’s remarks do not reflect the attitudes and opinions of all conservatives, so people need to stop suggesting that.
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 5:24 pm
Yet, you are suggesting that all liberals are hypocrites because of Lionel’s comments. As evident by many posters here, most of us have never heard of the guy.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:34 pmSo, it was insensitive. Are we really that scared of someone who is going to make insensitive comments?
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 5:32 pm
Not scared at all. Just calling them out for the haters they are.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:34 pmIs this getting too difficult for you?
Comment by Dr. Matt — January 24, 2008 @ 5:29 pm
And the closet homosexual remark was a comment from THIS website! It was in response to an insulting post.
Why would someone attempt to “insult” him by calling him a closet homosexual - especially when there is nothing wrong with homosexuality?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:35 pmNot much time to waste on this ASS HOLE–He would,and should,be fired from his radio and T.V. programs if this was reported on properly like Think Progress has done–Again,a complete ASS HOLE and waste of our time!!!
January 24th, 2008 at 5:35 pmAre we really that scared of someone who is going to make insensitive comments?
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 5:32 pm
Who said we/they were scared of Gibson?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:35 pmI’m referring to the liberals on this thread. They are the ones doing the suggesting. I’m not standing up for Gibson; to be honest, I hadn’t ever listened to him before (and I am well acquainted with much of Fox’s cast).
January 24th, 2008 at 5:35 pmNot scared at all. Just calling them out for the haters they are.
Comment by Dave C — January 24, 2008 @ 5:34 pm
Welcome to America. We accept all types here whether we like it or not.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:36 pmDude how many times do I have to tell you - Lionel is not someone who a lot of people here listen to. He’s not Olbermann or Maddow or Seder or Goodman or Moyers.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:36 pmThere you go.
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 5:32 pm
Let me get this straight… are you defending what Gibson said because some idiot on Air America said something equally cruel & stupid? Does that justify it? Cus if it does then the bar is set really really low. You can always find an idiot that did something as dumb as you’re about to do. If the thread was about Lionel & that statement I’d be equally disgusted. Funny thing is, you would be as well. But since this is a Republican you can cut him a break while accusing me of doing that about someone I’d never heard of saying something I never heard him say. So your accusation of hypocrisy is more applicable to you since you’re familiar with both instances.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:36 pmAnd Gibson is no O’Reilly, Coulter, Hannity, or Beck.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:37 pmAnd the closet homosexual remark was a comment from THIS website! It was in response to an insulting post.
Why would someone attempt to “insult†him by calling him a closet homosexual - especially when there is nothing wrong with homosexuality?
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 5:35 pm
There is nothing wrong with homosexuality. But, there is something wrong when Gibson “thinks” Ledger is a closeted homosexual because he played a gay cowboy in a movie.
Again, let us know if this is too complex for you.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:37 pm“You cannot live in defiance of God,†she said. “He got on that big screen with a big, fat message: God is a liar and it’s OK to be gay.â€
How is it possible to live in conformance of an imaginary being?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:38 pmFree Speech comes with responsibility. Too many talking bobbleheads act like they bear no responsibility for what they say or how it’s perceived.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — January 24, 2008 @ 5:27 pm
And it also comes with responsibility of accepting points of view which you disagree with.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:38 pmAnd Gibson is no O’Reilly, Coulter, Hannity, or Beck.
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 5:37 pm
What exactly are you attempting to imply?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:38 pmDave C- Please refer to one of my earlier posts stating that I am NOT standing up for him before you try to lecture me.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:38 pmWelcome to America. We accept all types here whether we like it or not.
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 5:36 pm
Ha ha ha. Yeah, guys like Gibson, O’Reilly, Hannity, Savage, Limbaugh accept people for what they are whether they like them or not. Yeah, that’s what happens. It’s about time that they got called on their bullsh!t. I hope it continues.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:39 pmAnd it also comes with responsibility of accepting points of view which you disagree with.
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 5:38 pm
And with it also comes with the right to criticize those who spew stupidity and hate. Apparently you have a problem with that part of it.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:39 pmAgain, let us know if this is too complex for you.
Comment by Dr. Matt — January 24, 2008 @ 5:37 pm
Yes, your inane circular logic is quite to complex for a dim wit like me.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:40 pmWhat exactly are you attempting to imply?
Comment by Dr. Matt — January 24, 2008 @ 5:38 pm
That was in response to a comment left by Lefty.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:40 pmPlease refer to comments made by Air America’s talk show host Lionel in regard to Steve Irwin’s death. All the liberals’ crying that this is typical of conservatives should reevaluate. This Lionel character said something just as horrific after Irwin’s death on a liberal talk show. Gibson’s remarks do not reflect the attitudes and opinions of all conservatives, so people need to stop suggesting that.
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 5:24 pm
right. don’t forget the sign the petition so everyone knows that gibson’s remarks don’t reflect your “attitude and opinion”, ok?
thanks for your support.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:40 pmWe accept all types here whether we like it or not.
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 5:36 pm
By “we”, I hope you are not speaking for your fellow reich-wingers because it’s well established that the GOPigs do not “accept all types here”.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:40 pmDave C- Please refer to one of my earlier posts stating that I am NOT standing up for him before you try to lecture me.
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 5:38 pm
That’s funny. Your words say that, but all you’ve done since you joined this thread is stand up for him.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:41 pmcoco, thanks for the link.
I must say, though, it wasn’t very impressive. From the context, it seems that this guy Lionel (still haven’t found any background on who he is or when his show runs) made the comment about Irwin recently. Like after that tiger killed those two knuckleheads in San Francisco.
Steve Irwin died in September 2006.
I agree that it’s a tasteless comment, but don’t you think the timing makes some difference? I mean, over a year later vs. the next day?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:41 pmAgain, let us know if this is too complex for you.
~Comment by Dr. Matt — January 24, 2008 @ 5:37 pm
Yes.
~Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 5:40 pm
It’s obvious.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:41 pmDave C- Please refer to one of my earlier posts stating that I am NOT standing up for him before you try to lecture me.
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 5:38 pm
of course not.
petition.
sign.
thank you.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:41 pmcoco, southern idiot, and dim wit, all reich-wingers, have yet to speak out OR defend Gibby’s hate speech. Instead, they have all attempted to hi-jack, divert, and spam the thread with their inane ramblings.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:43 pmI have, in no way, stood up for Gibson. I have said that I would not put Gibson in the ranks of Coulter, O’Reilly, Rush, Beck, etc… The remarks were tasteless, but they did not reflect the conservative people as a whole.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:44 pmdim wit, I usually agree with you and find your comments insightful, but I don’t see what you’re getting at with this train of thought.
It sounds like you’re saying it should be okay with us if someone says something really tasteless and inappropriate on the public airwaves.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:44 pmAnd with it also comes with the right to criticize those who spew stupidity and hate. Apparently you have a problem with that part of it.
Comment by Dr. Matt — January 24, 2008 @ 5:39 pm
My my, do you even read the posts?
I said this 30minutes ago:
I never said you couldn’t voice your opinion.
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 5:12 pm
Feel free to make whatever opinion YOU want to make.
You just love going in circles dont you?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:47 pmDr. Matt, dim wit may have a different take on this subject (one I have yet to figure out) but he’s no “reich-winger”.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:47 pmComment by ralph the wonder llama — January 24, 2008 @ 5:44 pm
see post #42
January 24th, 2008 at 5:48 pmI have, in no way, stood up for Gibson. I have said that I would not put Gibson in the ranks of Coulter, O’Reilly, Rush, Beck, etc… The remarks were tasteless, but they did not reflect the conservative people as a whole.
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 5:44 pm
Who cares where you would rank Gibson? And who cares if you think they reflect the conservatives? Gibson represents Fox and Fox represents conservative values. He speaks for you whether you like it or not. And if you didn’t like the way he was representing you you’d join in a thread like this by calling him out. But you’re not. You’re saying it’s not that bad compared to something someone on Air America said about someone that died over a year ago. That’s called being an apologetic. You’re just diverting attention from the bullshit. Therefore the representation of you & your type seems fitting to me. Of course you disagree. So what? Live with it. You’ve earned it.
btw, I’m not sure if saying that he’s not in the same league as O’Reilly et all is a good thing or not. I’d hate to be in that league. Are you saying they’re somehow better or higher up then Gibson?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:48 pmI have, in no way, stood up for Gibson. I have said that I would not put Gibson in the ranks of Coulter, O’Reilly, Rush, Beck, etc… The remarks were tasteless, but they did not reflect the conservative people as a whole.
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 5:44 pm
you don’t?
why not?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:49 pmcoco, southern idiot, and dim wit, all reich-wingers, have yet to speak out OR defend Gibby’s hate speech. Instead, they have all attempted to hi-jack, divert, and spam the thread with their inane ramblings.
Comment by Dr. Matt — January 24, 2008 @ 5:43 pm
Quite a strong arguement. So someone provides a differing viewpoint and all of a sudden they’re a “reich-winger” who is hi-jacking the thread?
Everything I have said is on-topic. Plus, I’ve made a very valid argument for free speech and I’ve never once said you can’t make any of your arguments. So you disagree with my posts - because I make an argument based on the 1st Amendment - the Constituion - and now I’m on the right wing.
It appears it is I who is defending free speech
January 24th, 2008 at 5:55 pmDid you hear that joke about a dead homosexual?
How about the one about the Jews in a concentration camp?
What?
Not funny?
What, you are against the freedom of speech?
Never pass up a good joke, haw haw haw.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:55 pmdim wit: gotcha. You’re a brave soul, sticking with the Devil’s Advocate role this far.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:56 pmOh, for heavens’ sakes. I didn’t say that it wasn’t as bad as Lionel’s comments. I said that Lionel’s comments were JUST AS horrific, thus implying that Gibson comments were horrific.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:56 pmGood comment (116) Dave C. The Republicans are good at trying to change the subject to something else. This article is about Gibson and what he said.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:58 pmComment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 5:56 pm
Why even make the comparison? The fact is he said something hateful. Comment on it for its own merits. Otherwise of course it comes off as a “Clinton did it too” comment.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:59 pmComment by americangoy — January 24, 2008 @ 5:55 pm
While I personally find you disgusting, you have the right to make your insensitive jokes.
Please just don’t tell them here.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:00 pmJust because I haven’t been called a troll as a blue blooded Democrat in a few hours, I think it’s worth it to point out the fact that Gibson, Fox News, and Anne Coulter all say these things to generate the outrage that scores them support from people who love to see outraged liberals.
It is better advertising for them than a automatic rifle giveaway. Do the mature thing and just ignore these idiots and they will all be off the air in 6 months.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:01 pmcoco was providing supporting evidence for the point he was making - that TPer’s comments can he hypocritical in their criticisms
perfectly on-topic
January 24th, 2008 at 6:03 pmThey’ll be off the air in 6 months? You mean like Air America is? As soon as Randi Rhodes apologizes for saying someone ought to just shoot President Bush, and as soon as the leftwingers apologize for making fun of Ann Coulter’s father passing, and for hoping Tony Snow dies of cancer, then maybe people will take you guys seriously.
Pot meet Kettle, I think you two will get along well.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:03 pmA closed minded reader would see it that way, I guess. I was saying it in defense of Republicans. The whole right wing is being attacked because of one man’s comments. I brought up the Lionel comment as an example of the hypocrisy. How can a person attack an entire segment of people for one man’s words when someone from the other segment of the people said something just as horrific? I understand if you think that Gibson’s comments were horrific, because they were. But that does not put you on a valid platform to accuse and attack all conservatives.
And how is attacking other conservative voices in the media not “changing the subject?” This is supposedly a thread about Gibson, and people want to jump all over the “reich-wingers” for changing the subject. Ironically, your bashing other conservative people in the media is just as culpable.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:07 pmComment by Brian York — January 24, 2008 @ 6:03 pm
funny.
but what’s your point?
January 24th, 2008 at 6:09 pmThey’ll be off the air in 6 months? You mean like Air America is? As soon as Randi Rhodes apologizes for saying someone ought to just shoot President Bush, and as soon as the leftwingers apologize for making fun of Ann Coulter’s father passing, and for hoping Tony Snow dies of cancer, then maybe people will take you guys seriously.
Pot meet Kettle, I think you two will get along well.
Comment by Brian York — January 24, 2008 @ 6:03 pm
Wonderfully said. Thank you.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:09 pmComment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 6:07 pm
to sum up: you’re a troll.
is that about it?
January 24th, 2008 at 6:10 pmI can’t imagine what idiots listen to this garbage radio show. Seems like Fox gives all these clowns mouthpieces on radio. No matter how retarded they are. Those cheesy sound bites are so lame. Sounds like high school radio.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:10 pmWonderfully said. Thank you.
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 6:09 pm
conservative philosophy: two wrongs = one right.
why is that wonderful?
thank you.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:13 pmI think it’s worth it to point out the fact that Gibson, Fox News, and Anne Coulter all say these things to generate the outrage that scores them support from people who love to see outraged liberals.
It is better advertising for them than a automatic rifle giveaway. Do the mature thing and just ignore these idiots and they will all be off the air in 6 months.
Comment by imorgan82 — January 24, 2008 @ 6:01 pm
I disagree. The more publicity is given them, the better the chance that someone from outside their echo chamber will hear their words and see them and their ilk for what they are.
Let’s face it; giving attention to the stupid things they say can only make them look stupid. The only people who wouldn’t recoil in horror at some of the greatest hits of that band are the 25%ers, and they’re pretty much a lost cause anyway.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:13 pmI can’t imagine what idiots listen to this garbage radio show.
Comment by techsong — January 24, 2008 @ 6:10 pm
coco and brian york.
they listen and they learn.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:14 pmComment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 6:07 pm
I looked at all of the posts before your first one and while I did see the comparison of Gibson to O’Reilly and the goons I didn’t see where anyone applied their opinion to all conservatives. I find the comparison to O’Reilly , Hannity, Coulter, Savage to be an apt one. They all hate and they spend a lot of time discussing people that they hate. Feel free to disagree.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:15 pmNo. The comment I responded to clearly defined the
January 24th, 2008 at 6:15 pmliberal philosophy (in this thread): hypocrisy.
I work in media for a living, and except for the occasional mention of what stupid thing he’s said lately on this or that Web site I never even hear the name John Gibson. He does make Don Imus look like William F. Buckley, though.
There will always be untalented broadcasters who go out of their way to offend and shock, because that’s all they have and all they are. The sooner this guy Gibson returns to obscurity and private life, the better for all of us.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:18 pmTelling the same joke for months is beyond lame.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:19 pmHow can a person attack an entire segment of people for one man’s words when someone from the other segment of the people said something just as horrific?
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 6:07 pm
Umm… most posters here are condemning JOHN GIBSON for his words.
It’s true that some have drawn the comparison to a wider pattern among the right-wing’s favorite talking heads, but, hey, that’s what we as beings capable of abstract thought do — we look for patterns in our environment.
So.. you DO think that a tasteless comment made over a year after the death of a public figure is just as offensive as one made the next day, before any details are known?
Just checking.
——-
And Brian York… I didn’t hear that Ann Coulter’s father had died, and I certainly didn’t know of any progressive making fun of it. care to share them with us? Thanks.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:20 pmto sum up: you’re a troll.
is that about it?
Comment by joe cantwell — January 24, 2008 @ 6:10 pm
don’t feel coco is a troll - he made a point regarding hypocrisy and then substantiated that point with supporting evidence.
He also noted he was not defending Gibson’s actions.
I, on the other hand, was defending Gibson’s right to say whatever he wants to say.
However, its well after 5 in my time zone so I’m calling it quits and am hanging up my troll hat for the day.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:20 pmI disagree. The more publicity is given them, the better the chance that someone from outside their echo chamber will hear their words and see them and their ilk for what they are.
Let’s face it; giving attention to the stupid things they say can only make them look stupid. The only people who wouldn’t recoil in horror at some of the greatest hits of that band are the 25%ers, and they’re pretty much a lost cause anyway.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — January 24, 2008 @ 6:13 pm
I take your point, I just think that we end up doing more harm than good. For instance, Anne Coulter puts on a wig and some lipstick and crawls out of Karl Rove’s anus every few months and says some hugely offensive shit, everyone gets pissed, and hey! Whaddaya know? She’s got a book coming out. Shocking. And just like that, she’s on the NYT bestsellers list for 3 months. If every cable news network stopped bringing her on and just said “yeah, she’s cunt who should die from AIDS”, she’d be done. Its formulaic. We MAKE the echo chamber for them.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:24 pm…says some hugely offensive shit, everyone gets pissed, and hey! Whaddaya know? She’s got a book coming out. Shocking. And just like that, she’s on the NYT bestsellers list for 3 months.
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