Gibson Defends His Mockery Of Ledger’s Death: ‘No Point In Passing Up A Good Joke’
Gibson Defends His Mockery Of Ledger’s Death: ‘No Point In Passing Up A Good Joke’
On his radio show yesterday, Fox News host John Gibson responded to ThinkProgress’ criticism of his comments mocking the death of Heath Ledger, saying that it was just “a little Brokeback Mountain joke” and there is “no point in passing up a good joke.”
Without offering any sort of apology, Gibson defended his callous comments by claiming that “for months and months and months,” his show has consistently made fun of the line, “I wish I knew how to quit you” from Brokeback Mountain. “I’m not giving that up,” exclaimed Gibson:
GIBSON: How many months did we live off that line, Brokeback Mountain?
BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN CLIP: I wish I knew how to quit you.
ANGRY RICH: Several.
GIBSON: I mean, it was going on for months and months and months.
BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN CLIP: Wooee, yeah!
GIBSON: I’m not giving that up.
Listen to it:
On MSNBC’s Morning Joe this morning, host Joe Scarborough described the homophobic undertones of Gibson’s “little Brokeback Mountain joke,” calling it “mean-spirited and hateful” that “if you make a movie about being gay, your death becomes a punchline.”
When Gibson’s sidekick, Angry Rich, read him a negative comment left by a ThinkProgress reader (which the site does not endorse) calling the Fox News host “a closet homosexual,” Gibson responded by laughing and quipping “well, I’m still breathing”:
ANGRY RICH: You’re “a closet homosexual.” That’s the first one.
GIBSON: Oh, I am?
ANGRY RICH: Apparently.
GIBSON: Ha ha ha, well I’m still breathing. There’s the difference right there.
Don’t let Gibson “get away” with his “callous and harsh” remarks. Contact Fox News and John Gibson. Or give his radio show a call at 1-866-868-6861.
UPDATE: GLAAD has started a petition asking Fox News “why they continue to provide a platform for John Gibson’s cruel and tasteless comments.”
UPDATE II: Perez Hilton identifies a list of Fox News’ current advertisers.
UPDATE III: Media Matters has more from later in yesterday’s radio show.
Transcript:
JOHN GIBSON: There is a war on Gibson. And, eventhough Gibson’s always right, there is a war.ANNOUNCER: The war against Gibson continues.
GIBSON: Thought we were gonna do that next hour, but just to give you a heads up about it, I did this, an hour yesterday on Heath Ledger on my TV show because he was like, still warm. I got an e-mail Angry Rich just moments ago…
ANGRY RICH: Yeah.
GIBSON: From somebody who said that I was just a horrible lowlife, awful person for mocking the death..da da da da da da…News!
ANGRY RICH: John, the start of yesterday’s show is now prominently featured on ThinkProgress, the George Soros operation, yes.
GIBSON: What did…
ANGRY RICH: It says, “John Gibson Mocks ‘Weirdo’ Heath Ledger’s Death.”
GIBSON: Did I mock him?
ANGRY RICH: “He Found Out How To Quit You.” Quote-unquote.
GIBSON: Oh, that. Ha ha ha, well…
ANGRY RICH: A little satire.
GIBSON: Yeah, it’s a little Brokeback Mountain joke.
ANGRY RICH: We feel bad about it, c’mon.
GIBSON: Yeah, I mean, I feel bad about his death, but that’s…
ANGRY RICH: Horrible.
GIBSON: No point.
BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN CLIP: I wish I knew how to quit you.
GIBSON: That’s no point in passing up a good joke. I mean, how many months did we live off that line, Brokeback Mountain?
BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN CLIP: I wish I knew how to quit you.
ANGRY RICH: Several.
GIBSON: I mean, it was going on for months and months and months.
BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN CLIP: Wooee, yeah!
GIBSON: I’m not giving that up.
ANGRY RICH: “The comments are unfortunate.”
GIBSON: Oh are they? They’re going after me over it?
ANGRY RICH: Oh yeah.
GIBSON: Mmmk, well, it’s the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, but…
ANGRY RICH: You’re “a closet homosexual.” That’s the first one.
GIBSON: Oh, I am?
ANGRY RICH: Apparently.
GIBSON: Ha ha ha, well I’m still breathing. There’s the difference right there.
ANGRY RICH: I guess.
GIBSON: Christine, it took you so long to get that? I mean, I was like counting the seconds there.
ANGRY RICH: “Gibson will be whining tomorrow that his words were taken out of context.”
GIBSON: No, I meant them, whatever they were. I don’t remember what they were, but whatever they were, I meant them.
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Think of all the jokes that will be told when John Gibson is dead.
January 24th, 2008 at 3:51 pmWhat goes around comes around, John.
"JOHN GIBSON: There is a war on Gibson. And, eventhough Gibson’s always right, there is a war."
What a huge ego powering a small mind.
January 24th, 2008 at 3:52 pmThe day will come when Gibson has health problems, marital problems, caught tapping his toe in the john, suggesting vibrator sex with an employee, getting his housekeeper to buy him drugs illegally or he'll just die. I'd say that will be funny too, but it's just as fun to watch a sad pathetic man try & lift his useless career by demeaning others.
January 24th, 2008 at 3:53 pmSUGGESTION: Let's start seeing interviews and quotes from progressives on TP instead of idiots. Like Thom Hartmann? Like Barbara Lee? Like Russ Feingold? Like Barbara Boxer?
all right....so you do have one from Barbara! Now let's have a few more.
Thanks.
January 24th, 2008 at 3:54 pmWhat a huge ego powering a small mind.
That's why his hair is so big.
January 24th, 2008 at 3:54 pmOf course! Why didn't we see this earlier?!
It was all a part of the War on Gibsonâ„¢!
I guess that makes it okay. Well, that and the claim that Gibby "feels bad about his death". Nyuck nyuck.
January 24th, 2008 at 3:55 pmdisgusting pig
January 24th, 2008 at 3:56 pmGIBSON: Mmmk, well, it’s the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, but…
I pick the "Not to be" option for John. Of course, he'll never debate with himself on "whether 'tis nobler", only what gets him attention and money.
January 24th, 2008 at 3:57 pmJohn, John, John --- when you're in a hole, quit digging!
January 24th, 2008 at 3:58 pmI can "pass up" a bad joke, though. And that would be ... John Gibson (and FauxSnooze).
Cheers,
January 24th, 2008 at 3:58 pmSUGGESTION: Let’s start seeing interviews and quotes from progressives on TP instead of idiots. Like Thom Hartmann? Like Barbara Lee? Like Russ Feingold? Like Barbara Boxer?
all right….so you do have one from Barbara! Now let’s have a few more.
Thanks.
Comment by Evergreen2U — January 24, 2008 @ 3:54 pm
I made this same suggestion at least a year ago. I like the "idiot threads" but I'd like some balance.
January 24th, 2008 at 3:59 pmNeo-cons really have trouble with humor. It seems the best they can manage is schadenfruede. Perhaps they don't have the empathy for it. They just aren't funny - intentionally.
January 24th, 2008 at 3:59 pmJohn, John, John — when you’re in a hole, quit digging!
Comment by missmolly — January 24, 2008 @ 3:58 pm
I was ,thinking the same thing, miss m. But then I figured, why would a burrowing rodent want to stop his digging? He lives in the dirt.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:00 pmGIBSON: Ha ha ha, well I’m still breathing. There’s the difference right there.
What's the difference? Other closeted homosexuals do not breath? Huh?
January 24th, 2008 at 4:01 pmgeesh!
what is it with these hypocritical hatemongers? so many of them look like televangelists!
i bet he's a bathroom stall tap dancer too.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:01 pmralph,
I gotta go. If the school bus drives around here, would you "Beep! Beep!" it once for me?
January 24th, 2008 at 4:02 pmWow. Gibson reads TP.
I wonder if he posts here as well. I wonder what his moniker might be...
January 24th, 2008 at 4:03 pmANGRY RICH: You’re “a closet homosexual.†That’s the first one.
GIBSON: Oh, I am?
ANGRY RICH: Apparently.
GIBSON: Ha ha ha, well I’m still breathing. There’s the difference right there.
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What is this? Does John think he "wins" because he's still breathing? This is something to gloat about?
January 24th, 2008 at 4:03 pmTroll diversions about Clinton, the economy, etc., in 5....4....3....2....1....
January 24th, 2008 at 4:03 pmMaybe Gibby should leave the jokes to a professional comedian.
Jon Stewart, maybe. Or Al Franken. These men have studied comedy and made their livings from it. They recognize the importance of timing. Delivery. And most importantly, taste.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:04 pmWow. Gibson reads TP.
I wonder if he posts here as well. I wonder what his moniker might be…
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 4:03 pm
Gotta be Frank M.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:04 pmWhat is this? Does John think he “wins†because he’s still breathing? This is something to gloat about?
Comment by missmolly — January 24, 2008 @ 4:03 pm
That was a very strange exchange. What does he mean "there's the difference right there"?
January 24th, 2008 at 4:05 pmwar on Gibson, huh? I bet this scumbag never spent a day in the military, let alone be in a real war.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:05 pmI made this same suggestion at least a year ago. I like the “idiot threads†but I’d like some balance.
Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian — January 24, 2008 @ 3:59 pm
I wouldn't mind a little good news once in awhile, either. A little article about some positive contribution made by a progressive. Of course, if I wasn't so lazy I'd write it myself and offer it as a post. I guess I'm not the only slacker here.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:05 pmYou, sir, are an idiot. Anyone that would allow you to be a host on their radio is a bad businessman.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:08 pmActually the difference is that Heath Ledger wasn't a homosexual, he just played one in a movie. Much like Gibson isn't a human being, he just plays one on the tv/radio, and not very well. I hope he sees the similarity between his words & those of Fred Phelps. That's good company he keeps.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:08 pmgay men hating other gay men? perhaps this is the perverted version of eharmony?
January 24th, 2008 at 4:08 pmANGRY RICH: John, the start of yesterday’s show is now prominently featured on ThinkProgress, the George Soros operation, yes.
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Hey, Faiz -- is this true? Do we have a sugar daddy in Soros? Is he the one to hit up whenever we want more bells and whistles on this site?
January 24th, 2008 at 4:09 pmComment by Dave C — January 24, 2008 @ 4:08 pm
So, gibby is happy that an actor who played a gay cowboy is dead because he happen to play a gay cowboy. Brilliant. Gibson and Phelps should hang out.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:09 pmNo man is an island, entire of itself
every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main
if a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were,
as well as if a manor of thy friends or of thine own were
any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind
and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls
it tolls for thee.
– John Donne
some day you'll be dead too gibby.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:10 pmHey, Faiz — is this true? Do we have a sugar daddy in Soros? Is he the one to hit up whenever we want more bells and whistles on this site?
Comment by missmolly — January 24, 2008 @ 4:09 pm
According to the reich-wing, everything not on Faux or AM hate radio is a Soros operation.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:10 pmHey John Gibson: This is the first time I've ever heard of you, and I can tell you that you haven't made any new fans with your idiotic remarks about Heath Ledger. He was an excellent actor whose untimely death is tragic. He is sorely missed already. What is wrong with people like you? I am offended at your remarks. Go f@ck yourself with a cactus, stat. I hope you are fired from your "job."
January 24th, 2008 at 4:12 pm"Think Progress?" The only progress I'm thinking about is that Fox should fire your ass.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:13 pmIsn't it horrible to hate yourself so much that you transfer that emnity to other people just because they're different (or in a real stretch, because they play a movie character who's different)....
January 24th, 2008 at 4:14 pmGibson is human garbage
January 24th, 2008 at 4:14 pmWhat do Naomi Watts, Michelle Williams, an Olsen twin, and several other beautiful and talented women have in common?? They never dated nor went out with a certain Fox blabbing mouth. Perhaps John boy is just really jealous of the rugged individualism of a celebrity who could attract and arouse legions of male and female citizens of the world. His jokes are his own pathetic attempt to desperately climb upon even the tiniest of pedestals (something about that word that perhaps Mr Gibson would find funny in his own sick and perverted way).
January 24th, 2008 at 4:16 pmjust wait until Pat Robertson or Huckabee comes out with something stupid like:
god punished him for portraying a homosexual.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:19 pm"Soros operation"= we got nothing of substance to say.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:21 pmGibson is a flaming idiot in the same class of trash as Bill O'Reilly, Ann Coulter, Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and others who say all things absurd so as to generate controversy and keep themselves and their minions employed.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:21 pmJust ignore them and their troll supporters. Pretty soon they may realize they're in an empty room.
Hey, Faiz — is this true? Do we have a sugar daddy in Soros? Is he the one to hit up whenever we want more bells and whistles on this site?
Comment by missmolly — January 24, 2008 @ 4:09 pm
George Soros once bought Faiz a root beer. Now everything that appears on Think Progress is "funded by George Soros".
January 24th, 2008 at 4:22 pm/wave
Hi, John Gibson!
While I've got you here, let me ask you: Were you born with the innate ability to be a complete homophobic and insensitive ass, or did you have to work really hard at it?
January 24th, 2008 at 4:22 pmalright, I'm bored and clearly all of the decent trolls have been chased away. so for the sake of argument, I will take the opposing view:
1) Free Speech. Gibson can say whatever he likes
2) I wouldn't pass up a good joke, either
3) Gays are funny. Have you seen "The Birdcage" or "Hedwig and the Angry Inch" Simply put, gay stereotypes make for good comedy.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:24 pm3) Gays are funny. Have you seen “The Birdcage†or “Hedwig and the Angry Inch†Simply put, gay stereotypes make for good comedy.
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 4:24 pm
Ledger isn't/wasn't gay. He played a gay character once.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:29 pmGIBSON: That’s no point in passing up a good joke. I mean, how many months did we live off that line, Brokeback Mountain?
BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN CLIP: I wish I knew how to quit you.
ANGRY RICH: Several.
GIBSON: I mean, it was going on for months and months and months.
BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN CLIP: Wooee, yeah!
GIBSON: I’m not giving that up.
Who's this "we" ?
You pair of morons and your 3 listeners ?
When you're one of the lowest rated "personalities" on TV and radio , don't you ever wonder why and/or look for ways to get more viewers/listeners ?
Here's a start : .............................QUIT , and try a new career ; you suck at your present job.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:30 pmHere’s a start : ………………………..QUIT , and try a new career ; you suck at your present job.
Comment by MCMetal — January 24, 2008 @ 4:30 pm
I know where they're hiring part-time bus drivers.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:33 pmLook at Gib's picture....and ask yourself....would I let this guy babysit my kids?.......he will join Imus as we take out hate radio/TV jocks.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:34 pmThere is no sense in trying to make these people at Fox feel guilty or feel ashamed of anything they said or done.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:35 pmThese guys at Fox playing the 'perfect',..the 'complete'.
So they can mock anybody who disagrees with them...and that's their job all day.
They feel superior,and they will not change or listen due to this.
They in my opinion are arrogant,racist..who think they are on a mission to change people who disagree with them,and they have the right to insult people too who disagree with them.
So talking to Gibson who thinks always he is right, just like O'Reilly and the whole gang in Fox will not change anything. The best thing is put them on ignore...and don't watch Fox network...
Gibson will being playing the victim by tonight; he'll claim he was taken our of context and that libruls hate free speech. Expect fellow reich-wing loons like Hannity and O'Racist to come to his defense.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:37 pmComment by wisedup
You should never let ANY Republican watch your kids. You could find them either molested or sold on the black market. Especially John "Powder" Gibson.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:38 pmdim wit, I'll go a different route and just make fun of Gibson's picture. His face has the impression that he's not wearing any pants and at least one of his hands is involved in an exercise.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:41 pmJohn Gibson is a radical extremist who literally advocates domestic terrorist attacks HERE and calls for the death of Americans. He should be jailed as a terrorist sympathizer and for making terrorist threats.
If another terror attack does happen, John Gibson, his producers, FoxNews, and the advertisers on his show should be held FULLY liable and personally responsible. They should be tried in criminal court (or military tribunal) and/or sued in civil court.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/11/bykofsky-right-wing/
January 24th, 2008 at 4:43 pmHey, anyone seen the Short Bus? I promised PLC I'd beep at it for him.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:43 pmPlease refer to him by his white supremacist code name "Powder"!
January 24th, 2008 at 4:43 pmDoes Gibson lambast the CA gov for being a cyborg from the future? Does he buy the pain reliever that the actor who plays a doctor on TV recommends? Does he believe all terrorist plots are foiled just like on '24'? Does Gibson realize that something being on a screen doesn't mean that it's real and in fact, if so t probably mean that it is fiction? Maybe someone should let him know, else he may make of fool of himself.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:43 pmI usually prefer not to comment on someone else's physical appearance, but John Gibson could do better. It makes me wonder what he is trying to accomplish.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:44 pmJust gotta say:
Bad publicity for John "I've never really said anything relevant" Gibson.
Good publicty for ThinkProgress.
AWESOME!!!
January 24th, 2008 at 4:48 pmPOWDER!!!!
January 24th, 2008 at 4:49 pmFREE SPEECH OR DIE!
You either believe in it for everyone or no one. Stop the hypocrisy!
January 24th, 2008 at 4:50 pmI will repeat a line from my father I have used here before in keeping with 'what do you expect?' My late father used to say of the Gibsons of the world, "What do you expect from a PIG, but a grunt!" Enough said.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:50 pmNo point in passing up a good joke, huh? I guess that's why Fox keeps your show on their air. What a piece of sh*t this guy is. You're no better than Fred Phelps.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:50 pmLedger isn’t/wasn’t gay. He played a gay character once.
Comment by Dr. Matt — January 24, 2008 @ 4:29 pm
yes yes, exactly.
Gibson was making the joke regarding the gay character. If you consider the context of the joke, he was really joking about Ledger's character and not Ledger himself.
Look at the transcript. The transcript doesn't use Ledger personal voice, but rather uses his character from the movie.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:52 pmThe hate that is post on here daily
Comment by Southern Man — January 24, 2008 @ 4:50 pm
Agreed. Some of the vile, disgusting, hatred posts like John Kerry, Liberals are full of Hate, Frank M, and Roger_Roger are intolerable.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:53 pmThanks for not supporting the likes of those.
FREE SPEECH OR DIE!
You either believe in it for everyone or no one. Stop the hypocrisy!
Comment by drago — January 24, 2008 @ 4:50 pm
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; "
Its free speech. Its what we stand for!
January 24th, 2008 at 4:54 pmHey, anyone seen the Short Bus? I promised PLC I’d beep at it for him.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — January 24, 2008 @ 4:43 pm
No. I have a feeling he won't be back with that name though. beep-beep.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:55 pmThey just happen to be on the other side of Gibson, so what they say is ok. The funny thing is, they will never understand or see themselves as being like Gibson, because they choose different words or tactics to say basically the same things. People who are different in here, receive the same hate you referrence above.
Comment by Southern Man — January 24, 2008 @ 4:50 pm
Um, they also don't get on the public airwaves & broadcast their hate over the radio/tv. Nor do they laugh when others die. Bit of a distinction there.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:55 pmYou must be wondering if Gibson is stupid enough to think that Ledger was actually gay, after fathering a two year old child.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:57 pmDan Abrams had good coverage of this. Dan also stated that the Phelps clan is planning action for the funeral.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:59 pmGibson needs to be held accountable...yeah, I know....good luck.
Southern Man, I have to agree with you on this one.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:01 pmVile and disgusting, huh? It's pretty pathetic that you show up here dropping O'Reilly catchphrases in place of actual discussion.
Tell me, do you have to take the plastic wrapping off those before you use them or is it more like you just cut and paste his phrases from FOX?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:01 pmSince Think Progress encouraged we contact John Gibson to speak out against the awful remarks he made about Heath Leader, here's the email I just sent to him . . .
January 24th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Its free speech. Its what we stand for!
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 4:54 pm
It's also what we're doing. We have the right to voice our opinions over crap like this. Advertisers have the right to yank their ads if they feel that someone like Gibson isn't representing their products/companies the way they want them represented. It's all free. Funny how when a Democrat says something a Republican disagrees with the freedom is quickly curtailed.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:05 pmJOHN GIBSON YOU ARE UGLY! NO BECAUSE YOU ATTACKED A DEAD MAN, I MEAN YOU ARE UGLY LOOKING. YOU SHOULD BE AFRAID TO SHOW THAT FACE IN PUBLIC. HOW DOES THAT FEEL TO KNOW YOU ARE UGLY?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:05 pmIf Coulter was hit by a train tomorrow, believe me, there would be cheers and jokes galore. †Her adams apple must have stepped in front of the train!†etc….
Comment by Southern Man — January 24, 2008 @ 5:03 pm
Another reich-winger living in fantasies and hypotheticals. How typical.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:06 pmNot the same. Coulter incites and relishes the hatred. Gibson is picking on someone who was really not maintaining a high profile politically.
Coulter deserves what she gets. Plus as far as we know she hasn't fathered a child.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:06 pmThere is an audience here in my opinion. Does it matter how hate gets out? Hate is hate, right? If Coulter was hit by a train tomorrow, believe me, there would be cheers and jokes galore. †Her adams apple must have stepped in front of the train!†etc….
Comment by Southern Man — January 24, 2008 @ 5:03 pm
Hate is sometimes justified. I hated the actions of Hitler. And GWB. They used their power to cause the deaths of hundreds of thousands. What was it that Heath Ledger did that justifies mocking him after he's dead? Oh right, he played a homosexual in a movie. You're right, it's totally the same.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:07 pmI pray that Mann Coulter lives a long life and continues to appear regularly on the reich-wing MSM. "Her" very hateful existence just continues to prove how reich-wingers are out of touch with reality and that they condone hate.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:09 pmI think also there is a difference between celebrating someone's death and making jokes in what amounted to a comedy routine about it.
And no, it would not be a nice thing to see people make jokes about a conservative's death but at the same time I will not sit here and be lectured by any conservative about what constitutes civility and right or wrong. Please.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:11 pmIt’s also what we’re doing. We have the right to voice our opinions over crap like this.
Comment by Dave C — January 24, 2008 @ 5:05 pm
I never said you couldn't voice your opinion.
Also, Republicans are hypocritical a$$holes. Unfortunately, the Dems are too cowardly to ever call the Repubs on their bullshit.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:12 pmI think also there is a difference between celebrating someone’s death and making jokes in what amounted to a comedy routine about it.
Comment by lefty — January 24, 2008 @ 5:11 pm
Howard Stern regularly mocks people's death. I have not listened to him in years, but I can't imagine there wasn't a joke or two concerning Ledger's death on his radio show.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:16 pmHoward Stern regularly mocks people’s death. I have not listened to him in years, but I can’t imagine there wasn’t a joke or two concerning Ledger’s death on his radio show.
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 5:16 pm
Howard Stern doesn't sell himself as a newscaster. I don't watch Gibson ever, or FoxNews for that matter. But is Gibson selling himself as a shock jock or a reputable news guy?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:18 pmGibson was making the joke regarding the gay character. If you consider the context of the joke, he was really joking about Ledger’s character and not Ledger himself.
Look at the transcript. The transcript doesn’t use Ledger personal voice, but rather uses his character from the movie.
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 4:52 pm
Yeah, I did look at the transcript. Did you? What was gibby implying by this:
ANGRY RICH: You’re “a closet homosexual.†That’s the first one.
GIBSON: Oh, I am?
ANGRY RICH: Apparently.
GIBSON: Ha ha ha, well I’m still breathing. There’s the difference right there.
We're waiting.....
January 24th, 2008 at 5:19 pmComment by dim wit
So? Is Howard Stern here? What the hell does he have to do with anything? Did i say somewhere that I think Howard Stern is some kind of great liberal?
HE'S A RADIO PERSONALITY. The point we are making is that they are idiots!
January 24th, 2008 at 5:20 pmYou are too dense!
Comment by Southern Man — January 24, 2008 @ 5:16 pm
Southern Idiot, you haven't once commented about Gibby's comments. Rather, as a typical reich-winger, have attempted to take the thread off-topic and attack the folks at TP. Southern Idiot, step up to plate for once in your life and attempt to stay on topic.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:20 pmComment by Southern Man — January 24, 2008 @ 5:16 pm
First explain what Heath Ledger has done to justify mocking his death. And if you can't do that then ask Dr. Matt if he mocked John Wayne when he died.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:22 pmGIBSON: How many months did we live off that line, Brokeback Mountain?
Comment by Dr. Matt — January 24, 2008 @ 5:19 pm
Actually, yes I did:
BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN CLIP: I wish I knew how to quit you.
ANGRY RICH: Several.
GIBSON: I mean, it was going on for months and months and months.
BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN CLIP: Wooee, yeah!
GIBSON: I’m not giving that up.
You'll notice the phrase "Brokeback Mountain Clip" and not the phrase "Heath Ledger"
January 24th, 2008 at 5:23 pmLook at the transcript. The transcript doesn’t use Ledger personal voice, but rather uses his character from the movie.
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 4:52 pm
Ledger's character didn't just die. Surely you get the difference.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:24 pmPlease refer to comments made by Air America's talk show host Lionel in regard to Steve Irwin's death. All the liberals' crying that this is typical of conservatives should reevaluate. This Lionel character said something just as horrific after Irwin's death on a liberal talk show. Gibson's remarks do not reflect the attitudes and opinions of all conservatives, so people need to stop suggesting that.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:24 pmComment by lefty — January 24, 2008 @ 5:20 pm
I'm really glad you and TP are here to protect me from anyone making any comments I might find objectionable.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:25 pmComment by Southern Man — January 24, 2008 @ 5:22 pm
You remind of a typical, lowly angry reich-winger.
Again....you still haven't stepped up....go figure. Keep ranting about mAnn Coulter, dolt.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:26 pm"Free Speech" doesn't mean that everything spoken is Good.
We have every right to call out the tasteless and classless commentary that passes for right-wing punditry these days. It's our duty to point out the illogic and the hateful undercurrents that poison our public discourse.
Free Speech comes with responsibility. Too many talking bobbleheads act like they bear no responsibility for what they say or how it's perceived.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:27 pmGibson was making the joke regarding the gay character. If you consider the context of the joke, he was really joking about Ledger’s character and not Ledger himself.
Look at the transcript. The transcript doesn’t use Ledger personal voice, but rather uses his character from the movie.
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 4:52 pm
Yeah, I did look at the transcript. Did you? What was gibby implying by this:
ANGRY RICH: You’re “a closet homosexual.†That’s the first one.
GIBSON: Oh, I am?
ANGRY RICH: Apparently.
GIBSON: Ha ha ha, well I’m still breathing. There’s the difference right there.
We’re still waiting.......
January 24th, 2008 at 5:27 pmFuture News:
January 24th, 2008 at 5:28 pm"John Gibson, talk-jock at a small midwest radio station and a former FOX personality was severely injured today. Apparently, his mass of hair, hardened and heavy-ladened by six cans of hairspray found nearby, caused him to loose balance and break through a glass table which then caused the candle on the table to catch his hair on fire and exploding. The explosion took out the entire second floor of the rented studio apartment he shared with a co-worker who had recently been kicked out of his apartment for hosting Tupperware parties."
Once again I ask - Lionel!?!
Do you REALLY think there are that many Lionel fans here? Are you confusing TP with AARP?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:28 pmWhen I tried to contact both Fox News and John Gibson, my email was returned because their server would not accept any emails. Hummmmmm. Must be getting a lot of them.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:28 pmYOUR A WASTE OF SPACE ON THIS EARTH GIBSON!!!!!!! RIP HEATH...U WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN!!!!
January 24th, 2008 at 5:29 pmYou’ll notice the phrase “Brokeback Mountain Clip†and not the phrase “Heath Ledgerâ€
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 5:23 pm
You'll notice the phrase, "Ha ha ha, well I’m still breathing. There’s the difference right there." in response to "you're a closet homosexual" remark.
Is this getting too difficult for you?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:29 pmcoco, who is this "Lionel"? I occasionally hear Air America, and other progressive radio hosts, but I've never heard of this "Lionel".
What were his comments?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:29 pmLedger’s character didn’t just die. Surely you get the difference.
Comment by Dave C — January 24, 2008 @ 5:24 pm
I'm starting to believe that's the issue.....reich-wingers have no concept of reality (look at southern idiot and gibby for evidence).
January 24th, 2008 at 5:31 pmTopeka's Westboro Baptist church says it intends to protest Heath Ledger's memorial service because he played a gay character in "Brokeback Mountain."
In a news release from the church, Shirley Phelps-Roper says that she and other members will picket Ledger's memorial services in the United States, not those held in his native Australia.
"You cannot live in defiance of God," she said. "He got on that big screen with a big, fat message: God is a liar and it's OK to be gay."
January 24th, 2008 at 5:31 pmIt's funny how one of YOUR Fox morons does this and your response here is to try to get us to defend Lionel and Howard Stern.
It reminds me of the movie Enemy Mine in which the human character tells the alien he worships Mickey Mouse and the alien spends the rest of the movie trashing the human's "God".
You really need to work on your game. It's absolutely pathetic.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:32 pmLedger’s character didn’t just die. Surely you get the difference.
Comment by Dave C — January 24, 2008 @ 5:24 pm
So, it was insensitive. Are we really that scared of someone who is going to make insensitive comments?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:32 pmhttp://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2008/01/liberal-talk-host-cheers-irwins-death.html
There you go.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:32 pmGibson’s remarks do not reflect the attitudes and opinions of all conservatives, so people need to stop suggesting that.
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 5:24 pm
Yet, you are suggesting that all liberals are hypocrites because of Lionel's comments. As evident by many posters here, most of us have never heard of the guy.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:34 pmSo, it was insensitive. Are we really that scared of someone who is going to make insensitive comments?
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 5:32 pm
Not scared at all. Just calling them out for the haters they are.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:34 pmIs this getting too difficult for you?
Comment by Dr. Matt — January 24, 2008 @ 5:29 pm
And the closet homosexual remark was a comment from THIS website! It was in response to an insulting post.
Why would someone attempt to "insult" him by calling him a closet homosexual - especially when there is nothing wrong with homosexuality?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:35 pmNot much time to waste on this ASS HOLE--He would,and should,be fired from his radio and T.V. programs if this was reported on properly like Think Progress has done--Again,a complete ASS HOLE and waste of our time!!!
January 24th, 2008 at 5:35 pmAre we really that scared of someone who is going to make insensitive comments?
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 5:32 pm
Who said we/they were scared of Gibson?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:35 pmI'm referring to the liberals on this thread. They are the ones doing the suggesting. I'm not standing up for Gibson; to be honest, I hadn't ever listened to him before (and I am well acquainted with much of Fox's cast).
January 24th, 2008 at 5:35 pmNot scared at all. Just calling them out for the haters they are.
Comment by Dave C — January 24, 2008 @ 5:34 pm
Welcome to America. We accept all types here whether we like it or not.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:36 pmDude how many times do I have to tell you - Lionel is not someone who a lot of people here listen to. He's not Olbermann or Maddow or Seder or Goodman or Moyers.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:36 pmThere you go.
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 5:32 pm
Let me get this straight... are you defending what Gibson said because some idiot on Air America said something equally cruel & stupid? Does that justify it? Cus if it does then the bar is set really really low. You can always find an idiot that did something as dumb as you're about to do. If the thread was about Lionel & that statement I'd be equally disgusted. Funny thing is, you would be as well. But since this is a Republican you can cut him a break while accusing me of doing that about someone I'd never heard of saying something I never heard him say. So your accusation of hypocrisy is more applicable to you since you're familiar with both instances.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:36 pmAnd Gibson is no O'Reilly, Coulter, Hannity, or Beck.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:37 pmAnd the closet homosexual remark was a comment from THIS website! It was in response to an insulting post.
Why would someone attempt to “insult†him by calling him a closet homosexual - especially when there is nothing wrong with homosexuality?
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 5:35 pm
There is nothing wrong with homosexuality. But, there is something wrong when Gibson "thinks" Ledger is a closeted homosexual because he played a gay cowboy in a movie.
Again, let us know if this is too complex for you.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:37 pm“You cannot live in defiance of God,†she said. “He got on that big screen with a big, fat message: God is a liar and it’s OK to be gay.â€
How is it possible to live in conformance of an imaginary being?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:38 pmFree Speech comes with responsibility. Too many talking bobbleheads act like they bear no responsibility for what they say or how it’s perceived.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — January 24, 2008 @ 5:27 pm
And it also comes with responsibility of accepting points of view which you disagree with.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:38 pmAnd Gibson is no O’Reilly, Coulter, Hannity, or Beck.
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 5:37 pm
What exactly are you attempting to imply?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:38 pmDave C- Please refer to one of my earlier posts stating that I am NOT standing up for him before you try to lecture me.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:38 pmWelcome to America. We accept all types here whether we like it or not.
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 5:36 pm
Ha ha ha. Yeah, guys like Gibson, O'Reilly, Hannity, Savage, Limbaugh accept people for what they are whether they like them or not. Yeah, that's what happens. It's about time that they got called on their bullsh!t. I hope it continues.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:39 pmAnd it also comes with responsibility of accepting points of view which you disagree with.
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 5:38 pm
And with it also comes with the right to criticize those who spew stupidity and hate. Apparently you have a problem with that part of it.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:39 pmAgain, let us know if this is too complex for you.
Comment by Dr. Matt — January 24, 2008 @ 5:37 pm
Yes, your inane circular logic is quite to complex for a dim wit like me.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:40 pmWhat exactly are you attempting to imply?
Comment by Dr. Matt — January 24, 2008 @ 5:38 pm
That was in response to a comment left by Lefty.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:40 pmPlease refer to comments made by Air America’s talk show host Lionel in regard to Steve Irwin’s death. All the liberals’ crying that this is typical of conservatives should reevaluate. This Lionel character said something just as horrific after Irwin’s death on a liberal talk show. Gibson’s remarks do not reflect the attitudes and opinions of all conservatives, so people need to stop suggesting that.
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 5:24 pm
right. don't forget the sign the petition so everyone knows that gibson's remarks don't reflect your "attitude and opinion", ok?
thanks for your support.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:40 pmWe accept all types here whether we like it or not.
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 5:36 pm
By "we", I hope you are not speaking for your fellow reich-wingers because it's well established that the GOPigs do not "accept all types here".
January 24th, 2008 at 5:40 pmDave C- Please refer to one of my earlier posts stating that I am NOT standing up for him before you try to lecture me.
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 5:38 pm
That's funny. Your words say that, but all you've done since you joined this thread is stand up for him.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:41 pmcoco, thanks for the link.
I must say, though, it wasn't very impressive. From the context, it seems that this guy Lionel (still haven't found any background on who he is or when his show runs) made the comment about Irwin recently. Like after that tiger killed those two knuckleheads in San Francisco.
Steve Irwin died in September 2006.
I agree that it's a tasteless comment, but don't you think the timing makes some difference? I mean, over a year later vs. the next day?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:41 pmAgain, let us know if this is too complex for you.
~Comment by Dr. Matt — January 24, 2008 @ 5:37 pm
Yes.
~Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 5:40 pm
It's obvious.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:41 pmDave C- Please refer to one of my earlier posts stating that I am NOT standing up for him before you try to lecture me.
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 5:38 pm
of course not.
petition.
sign.
thank you.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:41 pmcoco, southern idiot, and dim wit, all reich-wingers, have yet to speak out OR defend Gibby's hate speech. Instead, they have all attempted to hi-jack, divert, and spam the thread with their inane ramblings.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:43 pmI have, in no way, stood up for Gibson. I have said that I would not put Gibson in the ranks of Coulter, O'Reilly, Rush, Beck, etc... The remarks were tasteless, but they did not reflect the conservative people as a whole.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:44 pmdim wit, I usually agree with you and find your comments insightful, but I don't see what you're getting at with this train of thought.
It sounds like you're saying it should be okay with us if someone says something really tasteless and inappropriate on the public airwaves.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:44 pmAnd with it also comes with the right to criticize those who spew stupidity and hate. Apparently you have a problem with that part of it.
Comment by Dr. Matt — January 24, 2008 @ 5:39 pm
My my, do you even read the posts?
I said this 30minutes ago:
I never said you couldn’t voice your opinion.
Comment by dim wit — January 24, 2008 @ 5:12 pm
Feel free to make whatever opinion YOU want to make.
You just love going in circles dont you?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:47 pmDr. Matt, dim wit may have a different take on this subject (one I have yet to figure out) but he's no "reich-winger".
January 24th, 2008 at 5:47 pmComment by ralph the wonder llama — January 24, 2008 @ 5:44 pm
see post #42
January 24th, 2008 at 5:48 pmI have, in no way, stood up for Gibson. I have said that I would not put Gibson in the ranks of Coulter, O’Reilly, Rush, Beck, etc… The remarks were tasteless, but they did not reflect the conservative people as a whole.
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 5:44 pm
Who cares where you would rank Gibson? And who cares if you think they reflect the conservatives? Gibson represents Fox and Fox represents conservative values. He speaks for you whether you like it or not. And if you didn't like the way he was representing you you'd join in a thread like this by calling him out. But you're not. You're saying it's not that bad compared to something someone on Air America said about someone that died over a year ago. That's called being an apologetic. You're just diverting attention from the bullshit. Therefore the representation of you & your type seems fitting to me. Of course you disagree. So what? Live with it. You've earned it.
btw, I'm not sure if saying that he's not in the same league as O'Reilly et all is a good thing or not. I'd hate to be in that league. Are you saying they're somehow better or higher up then Gibson?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:48 pmI have, in no way, stood up for Gibson. I have said that I would not put Gibson in the ranks of Coulter, O’Reilly, Rush, Beck, etc… The remarks were tasteless, but they did not reflect the conservative people as a whole.
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 5:44 pm
you don't?
why not?
January 24th, 2008 at 5:49 pmcoco, southern idiot, and dim wit, all reich-wingers, have yet to speak out OR defend Gibby’s hate speech. Instead, they have all attempted to hi-jack, divert, and spam the thread with their inane ramblings.
Comment by Dr. Matt — January 24, 2008 @ 5:43 pm
Quite a strong arguement. So someone provides a differing viewpoint and all of a sudden they're a "reich-winger" who is hi-jacking the thread?
Everything I have said is on-topic. Plus, I've made a very valid argument for free speech and I've never once said you can't make any of your arguments. So you disagree with my posts - because I make an argument based on the 1st Amendment - the Constituion - and now I'm on the right wing.
It appears it is I who is defending free speech
January 24th, 2008 at 5:55 pmDid you hear that joke about a dead homosexual?
How about the one about the Jews in a concentration camp?
What?
Not funny?
What, you are against the freedom of speech?
Never pass up a good joke, haw haw haw.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:55 pmdim wit: gotcha. You're a brave soul, sticking with the Devil's Advocate role this far.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:56 pmOh, for heavens' sakes. I didn't say that it wasn't as bad as Lionel's comments. I said that Lionel's comments were JUST AS horrific, thus implying that Gibson comments were horrific.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:56 pmGood comment (116) Dave C. The Republicans are good at trying to change the subject to something else. This article is about Gibson and what he said.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:58 pmComment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 5:56 pm
Why even make the comparison? The fact is he said something hateful. Comment on it for its own merits. Otherwise of course it comes off as a "Clinton did it too" comment.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:59 pmComment by americangoy — January 24, 2008 @ 5:55 pm
While I personally find you disgusting, you have the right to make your insensitive jokes.
Please just don't tell them here.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:00 pmJust because I haven't been called a troll as a blue blooded Democrat in a few hours, I think it's worth it to point out the fact that Gibson, Fox News, and Anne Coulter all say these things to generate the outrage that scores them support from people who love to see outraged liberals.
It is better advertising for them than a automatic rifle giveaway. Do the mature thing and just ignore these idiots and they will all be off the air in 6 months.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:01 pmcoco was providing supporting evidence for the point he was making - that TPer's comments can he hypocritical in their criticisms
perfectly on-topic
January 24th, 2008 at 6:03 pmThey'll be off the air in 6 months? You mean like Air America is? As soon as Randi Rhodes apologizes for saying someone ought to just shoot President Bush, and as soon as the leftwingers apologize for making fun of Ann Coulter's father passing, and for hoping Tony Snow dies of cancer, then maybe people will take you guys seriously.
Pot meet Kettle, I think you two will get along well.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:03 pmA closed minded reader would see it that way, I guess. I was saying it in defense of Republicans. The whole right wing is being attacked because of one man's comments. I brought up the Lionel comment as an example of the hypocrisy. How can a person attack an entire segment of people for one man's words when someone from the other segment of the people said something just as horrific? I understand if you think that Gibson's comments were horrific, because they were. But that does not put you on a valid platform to accuse and attack all conservatives.
And how is attacking other conservative voices in the media not "changing the subject?" This is supposedly a thread about Gibson, and people want to jump all over the "reich-wingers" for changing the subject. Ironically, your bashing other conservative people in the media is just as culpable.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:07 pmComment by Brian York — January 24, 2008 @ 6:03 pm
funny.
but what's your point?
January 24th, 2008 at 6:09 pmThey’ll be off the air in 6 months? You mean like Air America is? As soon as Randi Rhodes apologizes for saying someone ought to just shoot President Bush, and as soon as the leftwingers apologize for making fun of Ann Coulter’s father passing, and for hoping Tony Snow dies of cancer, then maybe people will take you guys seriously.
Pot meet Kettle, I think you two will get along well.
Comment by Brian York — January 24, 2008 @ 6:03 pm
Wonderfully said. Thank you.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:09 pmComment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 6:07 pm
to sum up: you're a troll.
is that about it?
January 24th, 2008 at 6:10 pmI can't imagine what idiots listen to this garbage radio show. Seems like Fox gives all these clowns mouthpieces on radio. No matter how retarded they are. Those cheesy sound bites are so lame. Sounds like high school radio.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:10 pmWonderfully said. Thank you.
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 6:09 pm
conservative philosophy: two wrongs = one right.
why is that wonderful?
thank you.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:13 pmI think it’s worth it to point out the fact that Gibson, Fox News, and Anne Coulter all say these things to generate the outrage that scores them support from people who love to see outraged liberals.
It is better advertising for them than a automatic rifle giveaway. Do the mature thing and just ignore these idiots and they will all be off the air in 6 months.
Comment by imorgan82 — January 24, 2008 @ 6:01 pm
I disagree. The more publicity is given them, the better the chance that someone from outside their echo chamber will hear their words and see them and their ilk for what they are.
Let's face it; giving attention to the stupid things they say can only make them look stupid. The only people who wouldn't recoil in horror at some of the greatest hits of that band are the 25%ers, and they're pretty much a lost cause anyway.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:13 pmI can’t imagine what idiots listen to this garbage radio show.
Comment by techsong — January 24, 2008 @ 6:10 pm
coco and brian york.
they listen and they learn.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:14 pmComment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 6:07 pm
I looked at all of the posts before your first one and while I did see the comparison of Gibson to O'Reilly and the goons I didn't see where anyone applied their opinion to all conservatives. I find the comparison to O'Reilly , Hannity, Coulter, Savage to be an apt one. They all hate and they spend a lot of time discussing people that they hate. Feel free to disagree.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:15 pmNo. The comment I responded to clearly defined the
January 24th, 2008 at 6:15 pmliberal philosophy (in this thread): hypocrisy.
I work in media for a living, and except for the occasional mention of what stupid thing he's said lately on this or that Web site I never even hear the name John Gibson. He does make Don Imus look like William F. Buckley, though.
There will always be untalented broadcasters who go out of their way to offend and shock, because that's all they have and all they are. The sooner this guy Gibson returns to obscurity and private life, the better for all of us.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:18 pmTelling the same joke for months is beyond lame.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:19 pmHow can a person attack an entire segment of people for one man’s words when someone from the other segment of the people said something just as horrific?
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 6:07 pm
Umm... most posters here are condemning JOHN GIBSON for his words.
It's true that some have drawn the comparison to a wider pattern among the right-wing's favorite talking heads, but, hey, that's what we as beings capable of abstract thought do -- we look for patterns in our environment.
So.. you DO think that a tasteless comment made over a year after the death of a public figure is just as offensive as one made the next day, before any details are known?
Just checking.
-------
And Brian York... I didn't hear that Ann Coulter's father had died, and I certainly didn't know of any progressive making fun of it. care to share them with us? Thanks.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:20 pmto sum up: you’re a troll.
is that about it?
Comment by joe cantwell — January 24, 2008 @ 6:10 pm
don't feel coco is a troll - he made a point regarding hypocrisy and then substantiated that point with supporting evidence.
He also noted he was not defending Gibson's actions.
I, on the other hand, was defending Gibson's right to say whatever he wants to say.
However, its well after 5 in my time zone so I'm calling it quits and am hanging up my troll hat for the day.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:20 pmI disagree. The more publicity is given them, the better the chance that someone from outside their echo chamber will hear their words and see them and their ilk for what they are.
Let’s face it; giving attention to the stupid things they say can only make them look stupid. The only people who wouldn’t recoil in horror at some of the greatest hits of that band are the 25%ers, and they’re pretty much a lost cause anyway.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — January 24, 2008 @ 6:13 pm
I take your point, I just think that we end up doing more harm than good. For instance, Anne Coulter puts on a wig and some lipstick and crawls out of Karl Rove's anus every few months and says some hugely offensive shit, everyone gets pissed, and hey! Whaddaya know? She's got a book coming out. Shocking. And just like that, she's on the NYT bestsellers list for 3 months. If every cable news network stopped bringing her on and just said "yeah, she's cunt who should die from AIDS", she'd be done. Its formulaic. We MAKE the echo chamber for them.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:24 pm...says some hugely offensive shit, everyone gets pissed, and hey! Whaddaya know? She’s got a book coming out. Shocking. And just like that, she’s on the NYT bestsellers list for 3 months.
Comment by imorgan82 — January 24, 2008 @ 6:24 pm
Agreed. But I hardly think our response has any impact on that dynamic.
It's not as if the media actually cares what we think in the first place, and they book AC because... well, I don't now why they book her, frankly. But they do. And it's not because we give her publicity.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:26 pmI am beginning to feel the only way we can fix John Gibson's unconscionable remarks is by having him experience a similar fate.
I know!! Remember that story a while back about the guy who died from getting his colon ruptured by a horse d*ck? How about we hogtie Gibson down in a horse stall somewhere?
O'reilly can show video highlights!
January 24th, 2008 at 6:28 pmIt wasn't even a good joke, Mr. Gibson. Conservatives really don't get this whole comedy thing, do they.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:29 pmYou haven't heard the hateful comments about people dying, hoping people die, and just generally nasty stuff? I take it you don't hang out at the leftwing progressive site Huffington Post. The one where the comments get so nasty they have to shut them down at times.
So, again. This is why your outrage rings so hollow. Next.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:29 pmHow about we hogtie Gibson down in a horse stall somewhere?
O’reilly can show video highlights!
Comment by xtro — January 24, 2008 @ 6:28 pm
I'm not advocating this, but what makes you think he'd have to be hogtied?
I suspect that if you explained what you had in mind for him, he'd be totally into it.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:32 pm169 Brian York -- Who were you replying to?
It helps to let us know.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:33 pmYou haven’t heard the hateful comments about people dying, hoping people die, and just generally nasty stuff? I take it you don’t hang out at the leftwing progressive site Huffington Post.
Comment by Brian York — January 24, 2008
BOo HOo Go take a look at the Freebers. You can't even mention a democrat or non-white without threats of assassination and racism.
If you want to talk about people being hateful then HEY look at your guy John Gibson. He not only mocks a guy's death, he also calls for more terrorist attacks on Americans. You must be soo mad that you're spamming his advertisers with your rage, right?
January 24th, 2008 at 6:35 pmI’m not advocating this, but what makes you think he’d have to be hogtied?
I suspect that if you explained what you had in mind for him, he’d be totally into it.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — January 24, 2008
Hmm. Your right....saves us some rope!
January 24th, 2008 at 6:37 pmxtro, that's all well and good, but you people are the ones who claim tolerance, and compassion and all that good touchy-feely stuff. Yet you are as nasty as anybody else.
So if you liberals don't have compassion, and we know you don't have reason and logic, then what exactly do you have? That's right. Nada.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:42 pmI don't usually say things like this, but:
Looking at that picture, isn't Gibson just the spitting image of a complete dork?!?!? I mean, R. Crumb could just trace the outline and use him for a model....
Cheers,
January 24th, 2008 at 6:42 pmWasn't it the leftwing progressive Kos who said about the American guys who were hanged in Iraq "Screw 'em" ?? Kos, the guy who has a yearly conference visited by all the democrat presidential nominees? The guy invited on many shows including Meet The Press? That guy who says "screw 'em" about DEAD americans.
Yes, I believe it was Kos. A progressive hero. Gee, I take it you want to shut Kos down? And you never visit his site, right? You're outraged, right?! Riiiiiight.
Again, Pot Meet Kettle.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:47 pmComment by Brian York — January 24, 2008 @ 6:47 pm
Allow me to paraphrase what you're saying... "hey, remember when that stuff happened on that site that was just as bad as what Gibson said? What about that?"
Sure. Give us a link. Show some evidence for your strawman. Clinton did it too right?
January 24th, 2008 at 6:56 pmAgain, Pot Meet Kettle.
Comment by Brian York — January 24, 2008 @ 6:47 pm
no, he didn't.
liar.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:56 pmIS John Gibson still alive? It looks like his hair and makeup were done by a mortician.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:58 pmComment by Dave C — January 24, 2008 @ 6:56 pm
oooh careful dave or you'll get a "pot meet kettle" retort from dork.
January 24th, 2008 at 6:58 pmcoco?
wonderful?
yes, no?
January 24th, 2008 at 6:59 pmYes, I believe it was Kos.
Comment by Brian York — January 24, 2008 @ 6:47 pm
And to a tighty-righty. belief is just as good as a demonstrable fact.
However, it's not good enough for a liberal. Can you provide evidence of your belief?
January 24th, 2008 at 7:02 pmhey dork, new post:
Gibson: ‘To anyone offended by my comments, I’m sorry.’
your buddie gibby just pulled the rug out from under you and your boyfriend coco. gee, progressive pressure does work.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:02 pmJust noticed the update:
GLAAD has started a petition asking Fox News “why they continue to provide a platform for John Gibson’s cruel and tasteless comments.â€
Do they really need to ask?
January 24th, 2008 at 7:06 pmYou guys are killing me. Yes it was Kos who said it and little green footballs provides the link now and then when he wants to remind people of how hypocritical and vicious Kos is.
You see, it was so horrible a comment, that Kos deleted it and tries to pretend it didn't happen. Too bad for Kos, Charles at LGF captured the comment.
Glad to see that it's so offensive that you can't believe Kos would say it. Proves my point, totally. Again, thanks.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:07 pmFox scum
January 24th, 2008 at 7:08 pmGotta run. Time to watch the evening news and see how many more democrats have (gasp) discovered what lying sacks of crapola the Clintons are in this delicious Clinton-Obama Fight. It's about damn time you guys caught on to those grifters. We told ya so.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:09 pmHow dare commentators at Fox News believe they have a First Amendment. Oh the horror.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:11 pmYes it was Kos who said it and little green footballs provides the link now and then when he wants to remind people of how hypocritical and vicious Kos is.
Comment by Brian York — January 24, 2008 @ 7:07 pm
But... you can't provide the link? We're supposed to take your word for it?
Oh. Okay. I see how that works.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:12 pmGlad to see that it’s so offensive that you can’t believe Kos would say it. Proves my point, totally. Again, thanks.
Comment by Brian York — January 24, 2008 @ 7:07 pm
lgf?... there's a reliable source!
(you're too funny dork. have you tried this material out at open mike night at the "neo-con comedy canoe" yet?)
pot meet kettle.
meantime your buddy (on videotape) is crying out his apology.
such a sad sight, have you seen it yet?
yes, no?
pot meet kettle?
January 24th, 2008 at 7:12 pmHow dare commentators at Fox News believe they have a First Amendment. Oh the horror.
Comment by Brian York — January 24, 2008 @ 7:11 pm
oooh, swiftian dork. swiftian.
you did read a book once.
pot meet kettle?
eh?
January 24th, 2008 at 7:14 pmxtro, that’s all well and good, but you people are the ones who claim tolerance, and compassion and all that good touchy-feely stuff. Yet you are as nasty as anybody else.
Comment by Brian York — January 24, 2008
We know republicans are lying, evil, manipulative, soulless hunks of sh!t. But we also know you guys hate being called on it. Hence the loud whimpers from "brian york", who can't deny these things, hence he tries to vicariously project these same qualities onto others, in an attempt to reconcile the very evilishness that grows on his party like stank on....well...sh!t.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:16 pmHow dare commentators at Fox News believe they have a First Amendment. Oh the horror.
Comment by Brian York — January 24, 2008 @ 7:11 pm
You ARE a particularly dim little troll, aren't you?
Who on here said that Gibson didn't have a right to say stupid and hateful things to their audience?
You see, since I suspect you're a typical authoritarian right-winger, you probably assume that any transgressions of public decency and taste should be punished by imprisonment. That's the only way to explain how you confused TPers' calls for Gibson to suffer the consequences of his stupidity with some sort of censorship issue.
Or maybe you're just seeking to muddy the waters.
Or maybe you're just not all that smart and you really DO think this is a Free Speech issue.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:16 pmHere's the link. It's around #47 down (may have counted wrong)......it's made by Kos himself.
Read it and weep. And admit you're wrong. Ouch.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/4/1/144156/3224
January 24th, 2008 at 7:18 pmP.S. Hate Little Green Footballs all you want. But a captured link is a link is a link.....and proof.
For those of you too lazy to look it up. Or just to humiliated to be wrong. Let me post it for you.
Every death should be on the front page (2.70 / 40)
Let the people see what war is like. This isn't an Xbox game. There are real repercussions to Bush's folly.
That said, I feel nothing over the death of merceneries. They aren't in Iraq because of orders, or because they are there trying to help the people make Iraq a better place. They are there to wage war for profit. Screw them.
by kos on Thu Apr 01, 2004 at 12:08:56 PM PST.
This has been fun guys. What's that word? Schadenfreude? lol.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:21 pm"That said, I feel nothing over the death of merceneries. They aren't in Iraq because of orders, or because they are there trying to help the people make Iraq a better place. They are there to wage war for profit. Screw them."
but dork you wrote "american guys". you didn't say anything about mercenaries. why would you lie like that?
pot meet kettle.
nice to know that mercenaries who murder iraqi citizens have you for a friend, dork.
pot meet kettle.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:24 pmComment by Brian York — January 24, 2008 @ 7:21 pm
it was fun watching you shoot yourself in the foot dork.
thanks!
January 24th, 2008 at 7:26 pmEvery death should be on the front page (2.70 / 40)
January 24th, 2008 at 7:28 pmLet the people see what war is like. This isn’t an Xbox game. There are real repercussions to Bush’s folly.
That said, I feel nothing over the death of merceneries. They aren’t in Iraq because of orders, or because they are there trying to help the people make Iraq a better place. They are there to wage war for profit. Screw them.
Joe Cantwell, they were human beings. Americans. Mercenaries aren't guys? What are they? Robots?
Hahahaha.....too funny. You're busted and you hate it. I love it.
Even a few comments after Kos's horrible remark, someone calls him out on the offensiveness.
Don't believe for a second this is about democratic rule. These guys were mercenary thugs working for a proto-fascist US regime.
Nonetheless, these were human beings who bleed like us, feel pain like us and have people who love them and will grieve. Every loss of human life is a sorrow.
---
Kos ... I am shocked and offended by your comment. If you really don't feel anything, maybe you need to get some help. .
-8.00,-3.69
by pHunbalanced on Thu Apr 01, 2004 at 01:59:21 PM PST.
Whew! At least some of the sickos at Kos have a soul. Good to know.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:28 pmWasn’t it the leftwing progressive Kos who said about the American guys who were hanged in Iraq “Screw ‘em†?? Kos, the guy who has a yearly conference visited by all the democrat presidential nominees? The guy invited on many shows including Meet The Press? That guy who says “screw ‘em†about DEAD americans.
Yes, I believe it was Kos. A progressive hero. Gee, I take it you want to shut Kos down? And you never visit his site, right? You’re outraged, right?! Riiiiiight.
Again, Pot Meet Kettle.
Comment by Brian York — January 24, 2008 @ 6:47 pm
January 24th, 2008 at 7:28 pmThanks for the link, Brian York. Maybe it would help if you had included the entire context of the post by Kos. You know, like TP included the context of Gibson's comments?
Here's the full comment:
Let the people see what war is like. This isn't an Xbox game. There are real repercussions to Bush's folly.
That said, I feel nothing over the death of merceneries. They aren't in Iraq because of orders, or because they are there trying to help the people make Iraq a better place. They are there to wage war for profit. Screw them.
You're right, he did say "Screw them." Of course, he didn't mock their deaths or their personal character, did he? No, he in effect said, they weren't there serving their country, they were there serving their employer.
Harsh? Sure.
Is it in any way comparable to what Gibson said? Only in that harsh words were spoken about the dead. The differences are that Gibson laughed, Kos didn't. Gibson mocked, Kos didn't. Heath Ledger was a beloved actor, the mercenaries were paid killers. Kos justified his remarks with clear-eyed, sober analysis of the situation in Iraq. Gibson justified his by saying "there's no point in passing up a good joke".
Other than that, yeah, they're exactly the same.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:29 pmcompare and contrast.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:29 pmP.S. I wonder if Kos ever got any help......
One thing I do know..........he deleted that remark and he acts like he never posted it.
You guys are so entertaining. Too bad about the ability to keep a post. Like I said, Charles Johnson loves to bring it up every once in awhile when the lefties get all on their compassion "high horse."
Gosh, this has been a blast.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:30 pmWhew! At least some of the sickos at Kos have a soul. Good to know.
Comment by Brian York — January 24, 2008 @ 7:28 pm
Gibson: ‘To anyone offended by my comments, I’m sorry.’
your turn, dork.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:30 pmAgain, Pot Meet Kettle.
Comment by Brian York — January 24, 2008 @ 6:47 pm
You come here complaining about what Huffington Post and Daily Kos posters say. I know you knuckledraggers are easily confused but why don't you go to those sites and complain to them about their behavior. We have enough of our own trolls, we don't need to babysit you.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:31 pmGosh, this has been a blast.
Comment by Brian York — January 24, 2008 @ 7:30 pm
i wish i could say the same thing dork but in your case is kind of like tripping a dwarf. a little too easy. need a challenge.
try again.
(maybe some new material, eh?)
January 24th, 2008 at 7:32 pmdork?
dork...?
are you... crying?
January 24th, 2008 at 7:33 pmJoe, even the comment at the beginning of the post was about how terrible it was to show a picture in the paper of the dead American contractors.
Fact: Hanged Americans in a picture in the paper.
Fact: Kos's response? Screw Them.
Fact: Kos removed his comment and pretends he never said it.
Fact: Kos is a hater. You guys still love him. No one has asked for him to be removed.
Fact: Liberal hypocrisy is the best kind.
Love the fact that you can't admit you're wrong. It must hurt even more than I thought.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:35 pmI guess Joe is crying. The silence is beautiful. Ciao, Joe. Better luck next time. Next time don't ask for proof, if it's too painful to be wrong.
Adios!
January 24th, 2008 at 7:38 pmLove the fact that you can’t admit you’re wrong. It must hurt even more than I thought.
Comment by Brian York — January 24, 2008 @ 7:35 pm
You want us to apologize for a site we're NOT AT. Are you out of your freaking mind?
January 24th, 2008 at 7:38 pmRaleigh, NC -- The families of four American security contractors who were burned, beaten, dragged through the streets of Fallujah and their decapitated bodies hung from a bridge over the Euphrates River on March 31, 2004, are reaching out to the American public to help protect themselves against the very company their loved ones were serving when killed, Blackwater Security Consulting. After Blackwater lost a series of appeals all the away to the U.S. Supreme Court, Blackwater has now changed its tactics and is suing the dead men's estates for $10 million to silence the families and keep them out of court.
blackwater security... friends of yours dork?
January 24th, 2008 at 7:39 pmComment by Brian York — January 24, 2008 @ 7:38 pm
bye dork, better luck next time.
dry your tears. change your bed pan. there's a good boy.
;)
January 24th, 2008 at 7:41 pmComment by Brian York — January 24, 2008 @ 7:35 pm
Fact: Hanged Americans in a picture in the paper.
Fact: Kos’s response? Screw Them.
Aren't right-wingers the ones who are always whining about taking things without context? Oh, that's right -- IOKIYAR.
Fact: Kos removed his comment and pretends he never said it.
Fact: Kos is a hater. You guys still love him. No one has asked for him to be removed.
I see you suffer from the standard right-wing misunderstanding of the definition of "fact".
See, "Kos is a hater" is your opinion.
"You guys still love him" is also an opinion, and one not even backed up with any evidence, seeing as your commenting on ThinkProgress. Unless you HAVE evidence that anyone here at TP "loves" Kos?
Fact: Liberal hypocrisy is the best kind.
Again, that inability to tell "fact" from "opinion". Explains a lot of how you guys debate.
Love the fact that you can’t admit you’re wrong. It must hurt even more than I thought.
Wrong about what?
January 24th, 2008 at 7:43 pm211 -- nice one, Joe.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:44 pmComment by ralph the wonder llama — January 24, 2008 @ 7:43 pm
trolls...
these days they're all the mcviegh and nichols variety. the more you prove them wrong the crazier they get.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:47 pmtrolls…
these days they’re all the mcviegh and nichols variety. the more you prove them wrong the crazier they get.
Comment by joe cantwell — January 24, 2008 @ 7:47 pm
Word, joe. Word.
January 24th, 2008 at 7:49 pmLet me offer an anecdote that might shed some light for Brian York on how inadequate his "Kos Did It Tooâ„¢" defense is:
maybe ten years ago, there was a bank robbery in the San Fernando Valley of Los Angeles. the bank robbers were armed to the teeth with assault weapons and kevlar body armor, and they were content to shoot it out with the LAPD in the streets. One of the criminals was shot and lay in the middle of the street, and he was crying out for help from the cops. The problem was, not all of the robbers were accounted for, and the cops couldn't risk exposing themselves to the kind of massive firepower they'd already experienced.
They guy bled to death in the street.
His family sued the LAPD for letting him bleed to death.
I had no sympathy for the guy, and little sympathy for the family. He put himself in that position and helped create the conditions that made his rescue too risky to be attempted.
Now, the Blackwater guys in Iraq were not criminals, but their deaths were a whole lot closer in spirit and theory to the LA bank robbers' than they were to Heath Ledger's. They put themselves in that position and helped create the conditions that led to their unfortunate fate.
Did Kos laugh at them? Did he use their deaths as a punchline?
No.
Brian York, still wanna claim that they're equivalent?
January 24th, 2008 at 8:00 pmBrian York, still wanna claim that they’re equivalent?
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — January 24, 2008 @ 8:00 pm
ralph his mom called him to dinner. probably won't be back for another hour.
(hour and a half if it's his turn to do the dishes and take out the garbage.)
January 24th, 2008 at 8:06 pmThis thread has gotten so off topic. While I was away, having a life, the discussion derailed, terribly. Gibson said something terrible; he apologized for saying what he did. I am aware that this does not wipe his slate clean, and he shouldn't have said it in the first place. Unfortunately, this thread has dwindled into a mudslinging fight, tossing childish names back and forth at one another, trying to get personal digs in. Most of the comments are not justifying what he did, and those that draw comparisons with left wing talking heads are just to create some perspective. At some point, individuals from both sides of the party line have said things, in public, that shouldn't have been said and that were horribly offensive. One person's opinion, whether it comes from someone in the mass media or not, does not reflect the opinions of all those who share his party beliefs.
And FYI-one of the earlier posts referred to me as someone's boyfriend (amidst the mudslinging). I am a girl, thanks!
January 24th, 2008 at 8:23 pmComment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 8:23 pm
coco (glad you're a girl) brian's left.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:35 pmhe apologized for saying what he did
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 8:23 pm
Umm.... coco?
No, Gibson didn't exactly apologize "for saying what he did". He apologized "that some took (his) comments as anti-gay and insensitive".
There's a difference. One that Gibson counts on you not to notice.
As for the rest of your sermonizing, I suggest you re-read some of Brian York's posts and consider again whether his only purpose was "just to create some perspective". I think that description is too kind.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:36 pmps -
"While I was away, having a life..."
i'm sure you meant that in a nice way... right?
January 24th, 2008 at 8:37 pmComment by ralph the wonder llama — January 24, 2008 @ 8:36 pm
i think you're right ralph.
btw coco, we know what a "concern troll" is...
better polish up your act a bit. you almost had it.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:39 pmWould it have appeased you anymore if he had full out "apologized?" Really? The fact remains that he said it, and that's just it. I didn't suggest that it was a one sided degradation; it said it went back and forth. And as for the "having a life comment"- I just can't believe that someone could go back and forth with meaningless banter for so long. I'm not trying to argue anymore; it will be to no avail. Obviously, we don't stand on much common ground, and none of us are going to budge.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:43 pmWould it have appeased you anymore if he had full out “apologized?†Really?
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 8:43 pm
Yes.
Really.
It doesn't diminish it for you that he (subtly) puts the responsibility for the offense on the offended?
January 24th, 2008 at 8:48 pmWould it have appeased you anymore if he had full out “apologized?†Really?
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 8:43 pm
Oh, and thanks for at least acknowledging that what Gibson offered was not a "full out" apology.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:50 pmWrong use of my quotation marks...
January 24th, 2008 at 8:51 pmI’m not trying to argue anymore; it will be to no avail. Obviously, we don’t stand on much common ground, and none of us are going to budge.
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 8:43 pm
now that was pretty good coco. no, you're not peggy noonan but it was pretty good for a novice concern troll.
tip: change "it will be to no avail" to "it would be to no avail."
or better still "it would be futile."
good luck.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:53 pmWrong use of my quotation marks…
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 8:51 pm
As I suggested to Brian York, please note to whom you are responding when you post cryptic comments like this.
January 24th, 2008 at 8:57 pmDearest John Gibson,
January 24th, 2008 at 9:04 pmWho are you? What gives you the right to judge a person for thinking about death? As though that's a sin...
If you were to tell anyone that you NEVER thought of death at the age 28, no one would believe you. Heath Ledger thought about it after a roll that Jack Nicholson warned him about, a roll that would easily inspire thoughts of death in anyone. But it wasn't as though he went out and chased it.
People get judged by their clothing, their hair, the way they act... but someone's state of mind is simply THEIRS. No wonder people are afraid to speak out; it's people like you who make others ashamed speaking their mind for fear of judgment. You remind me of being in high school.
"TMZ is right about everything" ??? How daft.
I'm sure you've inspired the thought of death in a lot of people now; likely, your death.
I don't understand why Kos would have had to pull his remarks, if he did. mercenaries understand fully the risks they take, and they got what they were looking for. Simple as that.
January 24th, 2008 at 9:05 pmMaybe I was wrong to say "having a life" (implying y'all didn't). It is entertaining, this banter; unfortunately, it's back to name calling. I'm done now-y'all have a nice evening.
January 24th, 2008 at 9:06 pmMaybe I was wrong to say “having a life†(implying y’all didn’t). It is entertaining, this banter; unfortunately, it’s back to name calling. I’m done now-y’all have a nice evening.
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 9:06 pm
now that's what i call a gibsonesque apology!
January 24th, 2008 at 9:09 pmnight coco. y'all come back soon now, ya hear?
January 24th, 2008 at 9:10 pmAw, come on, joe; coco's apology was a lot better than Gibby's. After all, she took responsibility for her implication. I applaud her for it.
(clap clap clap)
...but I still don't know who she was responding to wth her charge of "wrong use of (her) quotation marks". If it was me, I'll fix it:
Oh, and thanks for at least acknowledging that what Gibson offered was not a full out "apology".
Better?
January 24th, 2008 at 9:17 pmJoe, hold down the fort for me. I'm heading out.
Don't let the troll-bugs bite!
January 24th, 2008 at 9:30 pmPlace: Film School Lecture Hall
Time: 50 Years from Today
Professor: Alright, continuing our discussion about great films from the first decade of this century, I'd like to focus on Brokeback Mountain and especially on the performance of Heath Ledger, one of the great--yes?
Student: I heard that when Heath Ledger died, John Gibson made fun of him on the radio.
Professor: Who's John Gibson?
Student: He used to be on Fox News.
Professor: What news?
Student: Fox.
Professor: Never heard of it. What was his name? Gibson?
Student: Yeah, don't you know who he was? He was this crazy right wing nut and he took his laptop in to get it fixed once and they found all this gay porn on the hard drive and the media found out about it and Gibson said it was all planted there by President Obama and then he shot himself in the head on live TV? You don't remember that?
Professor: No, sorry. Anyway, let's get back to our topic...
"If you can't fix it, you got to stand it"
January 24th, 2008 at 10:16 pmPretty much what you expect from these bastards... beat up on people who can't fight back. Brave when there's no risk, cowards otherwise.
January 24th, 2008 at 11:35 pm"Maybe I was wrong to say “having a life†(implying y’all didn’t). It is entertaining, this banter; unfortunately, it’s back to name calling. I’m done now-y’all have a nice evening.
Comment by coco — January 24, 2008 @ 9:06 pm"
Sorry a-hole, you are defending a guy that is delighting in the death of another person. Perhaps you should examine yourself on this.
January 24th, 2008 at 11:41 pmComment by Sabyen91 — January 24, 2008 @ 11:41 pm
that says it all.
January 24th, 2008 at 11:55 pmPerez Hilton is finally doing something worthwhile. He collected a list of Fox advertisers. Check update two.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:51 amJust a thought for anyone who has friends or relatives down in Australia.
As distatseful as it is to repeat this worms idea of a joke, I encourage you to send word of his comments down there. The intent is to try and get the Aussies wound up at FOX as well. If it becomes a scandal down there, then there's a chance it could rise to the level of a diplomatic "incident".
You see, FOX doesn't give a sh*t about what progressive-minded Americans think about them. They long ago quit even pretending to be anything other than an unapologetic organ of the far-right misinformation, noise machine. Reporting consists of little more than WH talking points, with any real news subject to spin or reframing. There's virtually nothing an American can say or do that will move FOX from that position.
But should the citizens of a country. one that also happens to be a strong supporter of Bush/Cheney and their "War On Terror", begin to write letters to their political leaders, it's entirely possible that Gibson wouldn't last another week.
We've already seen how ruthlessly they'll go after anyone who threatens or delays WH plans to build a FOB (Forward Operating Base) by their outing of a CIA counter-terrorist officer, Valerie Plame. So to see one of the hundreds of 'useful idiots' like Gibson fired if it will at all help to mend relations with another conservative ally in the WOT....that wouldn't give them even a moment's hesitation.
I realize there's a long ways between sending emails and fomenting widespread outrage down there, but it's time progressives started using tactics other than merely pointing out how bizarre wingnuts actually are. We're sitting back and assuming that any group as hopelessly insane as they are must also be a group that will self-destruct. But say what you will about them, they are far better at organizing dirty tricks to manipulate the media. Time we started to fight fire with fire.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:51 pmRagingGurrl said:
Think of all the jokes that will be told when John Gibson is dead.
What goes around comes around, John.
RaginGurrl, I think the punishment is better than you suggested. When John Gibson leaves this planet, you will be able to hear crickets like never before. The silence regarding him will be deafening.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:59 pmYou have no right to go and bad mouth Heath Ledger and his great talent as a star you could only wish you had 1% of that talent and heart that man had. And for one you didn't even know him as a person and for you to play those clips is something a middle schooler would do it just goes to show how low you have to go too make the world no you exist in the 1st place because I sure didn't know you tell now. And you and everyone else knows how they always make a Stars death out to be the cause of drugs. So how about you wait for the real truth to be told and even if that's the reason then that's still none of your business their are some people in this world that have problems they do have a hard time dealing with and know one has the right to bad mouth or judge them for it. It just shows how ignorant and heartless you an the Fox network for standing behind you really are as people . So me and my whole family at this point will no longer watch the Fox network until they fire you.
January 25th, 2008 at 7:06 pmHopefully everyone that has commented will read my comment as i was so disgusted i joined just so i could post JOHN GIBSONS EMAIL ADDRESS-
john.gibson@foxnews.com
so we can all complain to him now. what a worthless piece of sh*t, it is absolutley none of his business and even if he was into drugs it doesn't mean his death should be mocked in the slightest.
Many great musicians and actors have died as a result of drugs, purposely or not and no-one deserves to be treated that way.
i wonder what people will say when you die john?
i have just got back from being in australia for 3 months as i have family there and the towns have such a close-knit community i'm sure they are all missing Heath terribly. I have never met him but always admired his films and talent, he was very dignified not getting caught up in all the press by keeping his life private. Thats what his family should be able to mourn in private. i don't know why but i cry sometimes, people won't leave him be and his daughter probably doesn't understand yet. he will be missed and has millions of fans who support and love him.
i hope when you are laid to rest in Perth Heath, that it will be quiet and peaceful for you.
we love you xxxxxxxxx
January 26th, 2008 at 10:13 am