Huckabee: Iraq’s WMD Were Hidden Like ‘Easter Eggs’ And Then Moved To Jordan
Huckabee: Iraq’s WMD Were Hidden Like ‘Easter Eggs’ And Then Moved To Jordan
During the Republican presidential debate last night, Mike Huckabee suggested that Iraq did have weapons of mass destruction, but that they were moved prior to the war. In making this observation, Huckabee compared Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction to an Easter egg hunt:
Everybody can look back and say, oh well we didn’t find the weapons. Doesn’t meet that they weren’t there. Just because you didn’t find every Easter egg didn’t mean it wasn’t planted.
Chris Matthews pressed Huckabee on this point in an interview after the debate. “Do you believe there are WMD in Iraq that hasn’t been found that would have justified the war had we discovered it?” he asked. Huckabee offered this response:
I think it’s more likely that that weapons of mass destruction that we know that he at one time had, he used weapons against the Kurds, good chance they may have gone to Jordan. We don’t know where they are.
Watch it:
Josh Marshall points out that, “if you keep up on right-wing moonbat orthodoxy,” you’ll know that it’s Syria — not Jordan — where they allege the weapons were supposedly smuggled to.
The Bush-commissioned Iraq Survey Group, charged with determining the truth regarding Saddam’s weapons programs, declared in its final assessment that “it was unlikely” that any such official transfer to Syria took place:
The investigation centered on the possibility that WMD materials were moved to Syria. … ISG found no senior policy, program, or intelligence officials who admitted any direct knowledge of such movement of WMD. Indeed, they uniformly denied any knowledge of residual WMD that could have been secreted to Syria. [...]
Based on the evidence available at present, ISG judged that it was unlikely that an official transfer of WMD material from Iraq to Syria took place. However, ISG was unable to rule out unofficial movement of limited WMD-related materials.
The ISG concluded that “Iraq unilaterally destroyed its undeclared chemical weapons stockpile in 1991.”
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UPDATE: In May, Mitt Romney said it’s “entirely possible” that Saddam had WMD and hid them in Syria.
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I thought it was Syria. These guys really need to get their lies straight.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:21 amoh huckleberry, i hope you get the nomination, because it will be fun watching you really crash and burn you FREAK!
January 25th, 2008 at 10:22 amWow! I'm surprised the man can stand up after spinning THAT hard!
Why's he trying to play the "WMD" card, after it's been proven a lie? Is he trying to get the sheeple vote that always vote "approval" for Pres. Bush, no matter how bad their lives are becoming?!?!?!
January 25th, 2008 at 10:22 amEaster Eggs... Jordan... Jordan Almonds... I can see where he got confused.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:23 amI really hope that Fmr. Gov. Huckabee receives the Republican Nomination!
That would ENSURE that a Democratic President was inaugurated on Jan 20, 2009!
January 25th, 2008 at 10:24 amThis guy is a bigger nut case than bull shit bush....Damn..I want my county back.....Blessings
January 25th, 2008 at 10:25 amBased on the evidence available at present, ISG judged that it was unlikely that an teleportative transfer of WMD material from Iraq to an alien mothership orbiting planet Earth took place. However, ISG was unable to rule out teleportative movement of limited WMD-related materials.
Thus, we have conclusive conjecture that Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction were abducted by aliens.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:25 amHuckabee: "Iraq’s WMD Were Hidden Like ‘Easter Eggs’ And Then Moved To Jordan"
- - And when they got to Jordan, Huckabee's folksy metaphorical explanation for everything, they turned into Jordan almonds.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:25 amRumsfeld:"We even knew the colors of those eggs,south,north, east ,west of Jordan".
January 25th, 2008 at 10:25 amI love it. Here's a guy who has held no national office, has never worked for any national security agency, and has never had any access to the kind of classified information necessary to have the inside track on Iraq's alleged WMDs.
Yet he claims he knows what went on.
AND he expects Americans to believe him.
Amazing!
January 25th, 2008 at 10:26 amHis PRIMARY foreign advisor is the President of the CFR!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_BucPcJrHI&feature=related
And Frank Gaffney???:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJq6rMes0B8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orGCvzYsmuA
January 25th, 2008 at 10:27 am- - And when they got to Jordan, Huckabee’s folksy metaphorical explanation for everything, they turned into Jordan almonds.
Comment by Badmoodman — January 25, 2008 @ 10:25 am
No no no - they're just touring Petra castle, hitting the night clubs in Amman, going on camel rides, the usual stuff tourists do in Jordan. Hell, if I were a chemical or biological weapon, I'd pick Jordan over Syria any day.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:27 amhttp://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/26/rumsfelds-revisionist-history/
Rumsfeld’s Revisionist History: ‘We Know Where The Suspect Sites Are’
May 26th on CNN’s Larry King Live, Donald Rumsfeld was asked about 27-year CIA veteran Ray McGovern, who recently told the Secretary of Defense he lied when he said he knew where the WMD were located in Iraq in March 2003. Rumsfeld refused to acknowledge his error and falsely claimed he was talking about “suspect sites.â€
Here’s what Rumsfeld said to Larry King:
I said because they’ve just gotten in the southern part of the country and we know, I said something to that effect, that the suspect sites or sites were — meaning suspect sites were up in the area of Baghdad and north. That’s where the intelligence community said them. And we weren’t there yet. We hadn’t covered that piece of real estate.
In fact, Rumsfeld made no mention of “suspect sites†in his entire March 2003 interview on ABC’s This Week. He plainly stated, without qualification, that “we know where [the WMD] are.†Here’s a transcript:
STEPHANOPOULOS: [I]s it curious to you that given how much control U.S. and coalition forces now have in the country, they haven’t found any weapons of mass destruction?
RUMSFELD: Not at all. If you think — let me take that, both pieces — the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:30 amAnd who wants a new president who still believes that WMDS are hidden somewhere in Jordan like Easter eggs...?
This guy still way behind in his thinking..
What does he read that makes him think that Jordan was the final place to unload those mystry WMDS?
January 25th, 2008 at 10:31 amEaster Bunnies are in league with Islamofascists to bring down our Holy Amerikan Empire! Quick! More money for defense!
January 25th, 2008 at 10:31 am#10 missmolly, good to read you here....In response.....His thinking is right on track when one considers what we have had with bush...A total looser, pretending to be christian, lier in chief run by more lier's and thieves, dillusional, drunk, druggie that never accomplished anything good.....Yep! this fool fit's right in with the rest......Blessings
January 25th, 2008 at 10:32 amEscalation of Military Activity and Planning for Invasion of Iraq. On November 21, 2001, BUSH secretly ordered preparation of a formal war plan for invading Iraq. Thereafter, for sixteen months, the BUSH-CHENEY administration expended substantial U.S. government funds in military activity and planning for invasion of Iraq, all without notice to, or approval by, the U.S. Congress.
36. BUSH did not receive an extensive briefing about possible WMD in Iraq before ordering a war plan, nor did he discuss the legitimacy of grounds for war with anyone. BUSH received no such briefing until December 21, 2002.
37. On or about November 27, 2001, RUMSFELD asked General "Tommy" Franks, head of Central Command, which supervises Middle East operations, to immediately prepare an Iraq war plan in response to BUSH's order.
38. Thereafter, Franks discussed numerous revised Iraq war plans with RUMSFELD. Between December 2001 and August 2002, BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, RUMSFELD, POWELL, and others held at least five lengthy meetings about Franks' plans. In August, BUSH ordered Franks to prepare to invade Iraq using the "Hybrid Plan," a combination of the "Running Start" and "Generated Start" plans developed previously.
39. During 2002, the United States and Great Britain increased air strikes in order to degrade Iraqi air defenses and began deploying troops to areas around Iraq.
40. On or about July 30, 2002, without approval by, or notice to, Congress, BUSH caused the diversion of $700 million from Afghanistan war funds into Iraq invasion preparations.
41. On September 5, 2002, without approval by, or notice to, Congress, BUSH caused approximately 100 United States and British aircraft to launch ballistic missiles at Iraq's major western air-defense facility.
42. By September 12, 2002, without approval by, or notice to, Congress, BUSH had caused the movement of 40,000 military personnel and over 350,000 tons of equipment to areas around Iraq. Franks also ordered Central Command to be moved to Al Udeid Air Base near Doha, Qatar.
http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?pid=143205
Behind-the-Scenes Strategizing with British Officials: On or before March 2002, BUSH, RICE, Wolfowitz, and others secretly began discussing ways to persuade the public and foreign allies to accept Bush's goal of invading Iraq, with British Prime Minister Tony Blair ("Blair") and his advisers.
44. On March 12, 2002, in Washington, DC, RICE met with Blair's Foreign Policy Adviser Sir David Manning and informed him of BUSH's problems with persuading "international opinion that military action against Iraq was necessary and justified."
45. On March 17, 2002, in Washington, DC, British Ambassador Sir Christopher Meyer advised Wolfowitz that the two countries should "wrongfoot" Saddam Hussein by seeking a UN resolution that would require the readmission of weapons inspectors with the expectation that Saddam would create a justification for war by obstructing the inspections.
46. On April 6, 2002, in Crawford, Texas, BUSH and Blair discussed strategies to sway public opinion regarding military action in Iraq. Blair agreed to support a United States invasion if the two countries obtained a UN resolution first.
47. In mid-July, 2002, in Washington, DC, White House officials discussed Iraq with visiting British officials. Upon their return to London, these officials reported the talks to Blair in a meeting at 10 Downing St. on July 23, 2002. Among other things, Blair's advisers suggested that he urge BUSH to devise a more realistic political strategy for attacking Iraq, because a desire for "regime change" would not justify military action under international law.
48. In mid-July, 2002, in Washington, DC, CIA Director Tenet and others talked about the Bush administration's intentions regarding Iraq with Sir Richard Dearlove, the head of British Intelligence.
49. On July 23, 2002, during the Downing St. meeting described above, Dearlove informed Blair that in the United States "Military action was now seen as inevitable. BUSH wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy."
50. On July 23, 2002, British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw also noted that BUSH had "made up his mind to take military action." Straw said he would urge POWELL to persuade BUSH to seek a UN resolution requiring Saddam Hussein to readmit weapons inspectors, in effect, suggesting the "wrongfooting" strategy that Meyer had described to Wolfowitz.
Behind-the-Scenes Efforts to Fix Intelligence Around the Policy. Within weeks after learning from Clarke, Tenet, and others that Iraq and Saddam Hussein had no involvement with either 9/11 or al Qaeda, RUMSFELD caused Deputy Undersecretary for Defense Douglas Feith ("Feith") to secretly create the Counter Terrorism Group ("CTEG"), a small unit of political appointees whose mission was to find links between Iraq and al Qaeda by reviewing raw intelligence that previously had been discarded as unreliable. CTEG reported weekly to RUMSFELD's long-term associate Stephen Cambone, and occasionally presented information directly to Wolfowitz, thereby circumventing standard IC procedures.
At some time in 2002, Feith also designated political appointees to work under his supervision in the newly-created Office of Special Plans, whose purpose was to develop and package information for use in marketing the President's plan for an invasion of Iraq. In the fall of 2002, this group presented information directly to RUMSFELD, to RICE's office, and to CHENEY's office, thereby circumventing standard IC procedures.
In the spring of 2002, CHENEY and his former aide, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, began visiting CIA headquarters to question CIA agents' assessments about Iraq. RUMSFELD and Deputy National Security Adviser Hadley also repeatedly pressed CIA Director Tenet and his subordinates to present a stronger case against Iraq.
Bush's Creation of the White House Iraq Group. By the summer of 2002, domestic and international support for BUSH's plan to invade Iraq was lukewarm. At the same time, Bush's chief political strategist and Senior Adviser Karl Rove and Kenneth Mehlman, head of the White House Office of Strategic Initiatives, were beginning to coordinate the President's involvement in the November 7, 2002, congressional election. Their overall goal was to gain Republican majorities in both houses of Congress so that the President would have the greatest possible support for his policies. Rove had specifically recommended that Republicans "focus on war" as a way to win elections. Consequently, in the summer of 2002, BUSH's efforts to win support for an invasion of Iraq and his efforts to assist Republican congressional candidates became inextricably intertwined.
September 4, 2002, BUSH falsely and fraudulently claimed he was beginning an "open dialogue" with the American public and Congress, to decide how to respond to Iraq, while concealing the material facts that he:
(a) had requested a formal plan to invade Iraq nearly a year before;
(b) had been conducting significant military and nonmilitary planning and attacks against Iraq for a year;
(c) had directed significant military deployment to areas around Iraq;
(d) was planning a massive air assault against Iraq's air defense facility for the next day; and
(e) intended to work with the UN only to create a justification to use military force against Iraq.
Thereafter, the defendants and WHIG executed a calculated and wide-ranging strategy to deceive Congress and the American people by making hundreds of false and fraudulent representations that were only half-true, or literally true but misleading; by concealing material facts; and by making statements without a reasonable basis and with reckless indifference to their truth, regarding, among other things:
(a) their true intent to invade Iraq;
(b) the extent of military buildup and force used against Iraq without notice to or approval by Congress;
(c) their true purpose in seeking a Congressional resolution authorizing the use of military force against Iraq;
(d) their true intent to use their involvement in seeking a UN resolution requiring Iraq to cooperate with weapons inspectors as a sham; and
(e) their claimed justifications for invading Iraq, including but not limited to:
* The alleged connection between Saddam Hussein and the attacks of September 11, 2001;
* The alleged connection between Iraq and al Qaeda;
* The alleged connection between Saddam Hussein and any terrorists whose primary animus was directed towards the United States;
* Saddam Hussein's alleged intent to attack the United States in any way;
• Saddam Hussein's possession of nuclear weapons and the status of any alleged ongoing nuclear weapons programs;
* The lack of any reasonable basis for asserting with certainty that Saddam Hussein was actively manufacturing chemical and biological weapons; and
*The alleged urgency of any threat posed to the United States by Saddam Hussein.
December 9, 2001, CHENEY announced on NBC's Meet the Press that "it was pretty well confirmed" that lead 9/11 hijacker Mohamed Atta had met the head of Iraqi intelligence in Prague in April 2001, which statement was, as CHENEY well knew, made without reasonable basis and with reckless disregard for the truth, because it was based on a single witness's uncorroborated allegation that had not been fully investigated by U.S. intelligence agencies.
July 15, 2002, POWELL stated on Ted Koppel's Nightline: "What we have consistently said is that the President has no plan on his desk to invade Iraq at the moment, nor has one been presented to him, nor have his advisors come together to put a plan to him," which statement was deliberately false and misleading in that it deceitfully implied the President was not planning an invasion of Iraq when, as POWELL well knew, the President was close to finalizing detailed military plans for such an invasion that he had ordered months previously.
August 26, 2002, CHENEY made numerous false and fraudulent statements including: "Simply stated there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt that he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us," when, as CHENEY well knew, this statement was made without reasonable basis and with reckless indifference to the truth in that the IC's then prevailing assessment was that Iraq had neither nuclear weapons nor a reconstituted nuclear weapons program.
September 7, 2002, appearing publicly with Blair, BUSH claimed a recent IAEA report stated that Iraq was "six months away from developing a [nuclear] weapon" and "I don't know what more evidence we need," which statements were made without basis and with reckless indifference to the truth in that:
the IAEA had not even been present in Iraq since 1998; and
the report the IAEA did write in 1998 had concluded there was no indication that Iraq had the physical capacity to produce weapons-usable nuclear material or that it had attempted to obtain such material.
http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?pid=143205
On October 1, 2002, the defendants caused the IC's updated classified National Intelligence Estimate to be delivered to Congress just hours before the beginning of debate on the Authorization to Use Military Force. At the same time, the defendants caused an unclassified "White Paper" to be published which was false and misleading in many respects in that it failed to include qualifying language and dissents that substantially weakened their argument that Iraq posed a serious threat to the United States.
I. On October 7, 2002, in Cincinnati, Ohio, BUSH made numerous deliberately misleading statements to the nation, including stating that in comparison to Iran and North Korea, Iraq posed a uniquely serious threat, which statement BUSH well knew was false and fraudulent in that it omitted to state the material fact that a State Department representative had been informed just three days previously that North Korea had actually already produced nuclear weapons. The defendants continued to conceal this information until after Congress passed the Authorization to Use Military Force against Iraq.
J. Between September 1, 2002, and November 2, 2002, BUSH traveled the country making in excess of thirty congressional-campaign speeches in which he falsely and fraudulently asserted that Iraq was a "serious threat" which required immediate action, when as he well knew, this assertion was made without reasonable basis and with reckless indifference to the truth.
K. In his January 28, 2003 State of the Union address, BUSH announced that the "British have recently learned that Iraq was seeking significant quantities of uranium from Africa" which statement was fraudulent and misleading and made with reckless disregard for the truth, in that it falsely implied that the information was true, when the CIA had advised the administration more than once that the allegation was unsupported by available intelligence.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:32 amEaster Bunnies are in league with Islamofascists to bring down our Holy Amerikan Empire! Quick! More money for defense!
Comment by cavjam — January 25, 2008 @ 10:31 am
We do have the Holy Hand Grenade...
January 25th, 2008 at 10:32 amOn September 10, 2001, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld held a press conference to disclose that over $2,000,000,000,000 in Pentagon funds could not be accounted for. Rumsfeld stated: "According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions."
Such a disclosure normally would have sparked a huge scandal. However, the commencement of the attack on New York City and Washington in the morning would assure that the story remained buried. To the trillions already missing from the coffers, an obedient Congress terrorized by anthrax attacks would add billions more in appropriations to fight the "War on Terror."
The Comptroller of the Pentagon at the time of the attack was Dov Zakheim, who was appointed in May of 2001. Before becoming the Pentagon's money-manager, he was an executive at System Planning Corporation, a defense contractor specializing in electronic warfare technologies including remote-controlled aircraft systems. Zakheim is a member of the Project for a New American Century and participated in the creation of its 2000 position paper Rebuilding America's Defenses which called for "a New Pearl Harbor."
http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/trillions.html...
why is it that General Tommy Franks is a rich man?
How did he become rich?
Why was it that his wife is flown on private jets every week to shopping sprees?
Where did the money come from?
What service was performed, and rewarded?
Why are US taxpayers footing the bill?
Tommy and Cathy Franks confirmed this week that they have settled on Harbour Island after zeroing in on South Tampa. They were due to close on a home Friday, Cathy Franks said.
Cathy Franks said security on the island clinched the decision.
And they are not alone. The Franks family joins a host of Tampa Bay sports and political celebrities.
The roll call includes Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive back John Lynch, his teammate Kenyatta Walker, their bosses Bryan and Joel Glazer, former Buc Chidi Ahanotu and current Tampa Bay Lightning hockey player Vinny Lecavalier.
Former Tampa Mayor Dick Greco feeds the ducks at a pond near his home on the island. City Attorney Fred Karl can be seen there, as can the daughter of one of Franks' predecessors, retired Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf.
http://www.sptimes.com/2003/08/03/Tampabay/A_homeland_security_h.sh...
Where did the money come from?
Was it from the money stolen by Rumsfeld and Zakheim?
Payments by Israel perhaps?
What possible motive might Tommy Franks have to rush to Rumsfeld's defense? Can you say Quid Pro Quo?
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/02/05/franks.wife/...
2/5/2003
Sources have told CNN that Franks, the man who would lead U.S. forces in the event of a military strike on Iraq, faces several allegations -- including one that he allowed his wife, Cathy, to be present during discussions of highly classified material.
The sources also said questions have been raised about whether Franks properly repaid the U.S. government for his wife's travel on military aircraft.
Franks, the head of U.S. Central Command, has been under investigation for weeks by the Pentagon inspector general's office.
"I am aware of the investigation and am cooperating with it," Franks said in a brief written statement. "It would not be appropriate to comment on the investigation until it is complete."
U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld -- who would decide what, if any, disciplinary action Franks would face if any wrongdoing is found -- has taken the unusual step of expressing support for the general before the investigation was completed.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:33 amI am so sick of having to try to decide whether our potential leaders are either insanely delusional or merely evil.
WHY WOULD WE EVER ACCEPT THAT THIS IS THE BEST WE CAN DO???????
Wouldn't your next door neighbor be a better choice that this guy?
January 25th, 2008 at 10:34 amHucknuckle. Whatta frikkin jerk! That dead horse is beaten FLAT as roadkill by now.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:35 amWe will be such a better country when self-delusion is no longer a promotable skill.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:36 amI still think Saddam's secret army of flying monkeys flew all the WMD to the dark side of the moon. That's the only theory that really makes sense, if you think about it.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:37 amI am so sick of having to try to decide whether our potential leaders are either insanely delusional or merely evil.
WHY WOULD WE EVER ACCEPT THAT THIS IS THE BEST WE CAN DO???????
Wouldn’t your next door neighbor be a better choice that this guy?
Comment by Peter C — January 25, 2008 @ 10:34 am
Trying to decide?
Are you serious?
Our "Leaders" are not those you see in elected office, they are those who remain in the shadows, pulling the strings via bribery and blackmail, and sometimes torture and murder.
Of course they are competent - liars.
And of course they are evil greedy bastards.
They DON'T WORK FOR YOU!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1cFwkmSOXg
January 25th, 2008 at 10:38 amNo, no, wait, they were hidden in stockings on Saddam's mantle! Or Saddam putting them out on a plate with cookies and Santa took them! They put them in a picnic basket and they were stollen by Yogi Bear! He lit a fire under them and Smokey Bear covered them with dirt! He swaddled them in linens and a stork carried them away! He put them in a basket and sent them down the river! He built this big elaborate wooden horse and...a goose! A goose laid the WMDs and Sam I Am ate them with ham!
January 25th, 2008 at 10:43 amAn article in the Fall 2005 Middle East Quarterly reports that in an appearance on Israel’s Channel 2 on December 23, 2002, Israel’s prime minister, Ariel Sharon, stated, “Chemical and biological weapons which Saddam is endeavoring to conceal have been moved from Iraq to Syria.â€
http://www.meforum.org/article/755
Comment by good_golly — January 25, 2008 @ 10:42 am
Your agenda is clearly revealed...thank you very much!
There is no way to trust any news out of Israel - or the US Government for that matter.
Hasbara is specifically designed to promote the Likud's goals - not advance the truth:
Nathan Guttman has characterized hasbara as "pro-Israel propaganda, " while Avi Hyman has said "while propaganda strives to highlight the positive aspects of one side of a conflict, hasbara seeks to explain actions, whether or not they are justified."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasbara
January 25th, 2008 at 10:43 am"We need 100,000 Megaphone users to make a difference. So, please distribute this mail to all Israel's supporters.
Do it now. For Israel.
Amir Gissin
Director Public Affairs (Hasbara) Department
GIYUS currently claims 24,000 Megaphone users."
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/06/giyus_megaphone/
Click here:
http://www.eretz.com/NEW/
Scroll down to this:
GIYUS.ORG - Give Israel Your United Support
"Many of us recognize that the internet is the new battleground for Israel's image. Now is the time to improve our efforts on this front by better coordinating our on-line efforts. An Israeli software company has developed a free, safe, and useful tool for this purpose: the Internet Megaphone. Please go to http://www.giyus.org and download the megaphone. You will then receive daily updates with links to important internet polls, problematic articles that require a response, and more."
"PROBLEMATIC ARTICLES?"
Oh - you mean TRUTHFUL!
Yeah, that's a problem - when you're a FALSE FLAG TERRORIST.
THIS is Eretz Israel:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel
Israel is directly responsible for our invasion of Iraq and the pending nuclear attack on Iran.
Expose the truth.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:44 amIsrael’s top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Moshe Yaalon, told the Sun that Saddam “transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria.â€
Comment by good_golly
You have lost your credibility..........this is your source? gg your straw has mold.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:45 amAs a typical reich-winger, facts and reality are not a priority.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:46 am"Just because you didn’t find every Easter egg didn’t mean it wasn’t planted."
By July or August you should be able to find those eggs just by smell.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:46 amYet he claims he knows what went on.
AND he expects Americans to believe him.
Amazing!
Comment by missmolly — January 25, 2008 @ 10:26 am
Maybe, he received a phone call from God advising him of this information.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:46 ammaybe wolfie can tell us...
Wolfowitz appointed chairman of arms-control advisory panel
Security board offers insight to State Department
Bloomberg News / January 25, 2008
WASHINGTON - Paul Wolfowitz, the former World Bank president and former deputy secretary of defense who was instrumental in the US decision to invade Iraq in 2003, has been named chairman of a panel that advises the State Department on arms-control issues.
[…]
Joseph Cirincione, a senior fellow and director for nuclear policy at the Center for American Progress, a Washington-based policy research group, criticized Wolfowitz’s appointment.
“The advice given by Paul Wolfowitz over the past six years ranks among the worst provided by any defense official in history,†Cirincione said. “I have no idea why anyone would want more.â€
[…]
http://www.boston.com/ news/ nation/ washington/ articles/ 2008/ 01/ 25/ wolfowitz_appointed_chairman_of_arms_control_advisory_panel/
January 25th, 2008 at 10:46 am
The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein’s air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.
http://www.nysun.com/article/26514
Comment by good_golly — January 25, 2008 @ 10:38 am
So a non-Arab Iraqi Christian who trained in the United States and who was once imprisoned by Saddam is making this assertion? Well, it must be true. Why would he have any reason to lie? Certainly not to curry favor with the invading army and get himself a high-level job in the new Iraqi government.
After all, Iraqis only lie when they want political asylum!
January 25th, 2008 at 10:49 amgg, be honest, do you hate all Americans or just those who do not belong to the far, far radical extremist reich-wing known as the GOPigs?
January 25th, 2008 at 10:49 amThe best part was Ron Paul saying the war was a total mistake and we must back out now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGBg8xwmlsw
Don't know any democrats who will say that..... or voted against it in the first place.
Total honesty.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:50 amIt's what we need.
Has BDS gripped you loons to the point that you want to give the late, great Saddam Hussein the benefit of the doubt?...
January 25th, 2008 at 10:51 amPlunger, be honest. Do you hate all Jews or just those that belong to the conservative Israeli party known as Likud?
Comment by good_golly
plunger, got any more facts for the propagandist? He thinks he can mix a racial slur into a discussion about the policies of a country...Israel......
got any real, credible facts plunger... not the liers that gg uses....
January 25th, 2008 at 10:52 amHas BDS gripped you loons to the point that you want to give the late, great Saddam Hussein the benefit of the doubt?…
Comment by Neocon
Hi, nice to meet you. Thanks for starting your conversation by calling us loons....pretty sure that will be well received.
plunger.....please bury the liars.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:53 amsounds like goon golly should have been advising the huckster...
one would think that saddam would have USED those weapons
January 25th, 2008 at 10:54 amagainst the approaching enemy... wonder why he DIDN'T...
eh? (rhetorical)
Plunger, be honest. Do you hate all Jews or just those that belong to the conservative Israeli party known as Likud?
Comment by good_golly — January 25, 2008 @ 10:48 am
The fact is that GG is an Hasbara operative using Megaphone software to infiltrate blogs with disinformation designed to benefit Israel (a foreign country - not a race OR a religion).
I hate disinformation.
GG:
Go ahead and use facts and links to disprove anything I post here.
Swiftboating, race baiting and name calling is not the same as truth telling.
Show evidence that what I post is untrue.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:54 amgg clearly hates Americans and US troops. A few days ago a story was published where US troops admitted they were ordered to commit atrocities in Iraq. gg said they were liars and defamed these troops. Yet, he clearly admits that he believes Saddam's generals lock-stock-and barrel. gg, why do you hate our troops and love Saddam's generals?
January 25th, 2008 at 10:54 amComment by good_golly — January 25, 2008 @ 10:55 am
Liar.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:56 amDebka.com began in the summer of 2000, and has since received Forbes’ Best of The Web award.
Comment by good_golly — January 25, 2008 @ 10:54 am
FORBES???
Ok, let's look at Mr. Forbes agenda, shall we?
http://www.forbes.com/work/feeds/afx/2005/12/18/afx2400383.html
This Forbes article quoting Cheney is interesting:
'It's the kind of capability if we'd had before 9/11 might have led us to be able to prevent 9/11,' Cheney said in an interview with ABC's 'Nightline' program."
Mr. Cheney and Mr. Forbes have something in common...
Now ask yourself what interest Mr. Forbes might have in providing cover for the Administration...give up?
Let's take a look at the list of signatories to the PNAC, shall we?
Steve Forbes actively participated in the following events:
September 2000: PNAC Report Recommends Policies That Need New Pearl Harbor for Quick Implementation:
PNAC drafts a strategy document, “Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategies, Forces and Resources for a New Century,†for George W. Bush's team before the 2000 Presidential election. The document was commissioned by future Vice President Cheney, future Defense Secretary Rumsfeld, future Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, Florida Governor Jeb Bush (Bush's brother), and future Vice President Cheney's Chief of Staff Lewis Libby. [Sources: Rebuilding America's Defenses]
The document outlines a “blueprint for maintaining global US preeminence, precluding the rise of a great power rival, and shaping the international security order in line with American principles and interests.â€
PNAC states further: “The United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein.â€
PNAC calls for the control of space through a new “US Space Forces,†the political control of the Internet, and the subversion of any growth in political power of even close allies, and advocates “regime change†in China, North Korea, Libya, Syria, Iran, and other countries.
It also mentions that “advanced forms of biological warfare that can ‘target’ specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool.â€
However, PNAC complains that the changes are likely to take a long time, “absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event—like a new Pearl Harbor.†[Los Angeles Times, 1/12/03] Notably, while Cheney commissioned this plan (along with other future key leaders of the Bush administration), he defends Bush's position of maintaining Clinton's policy not to attack Iraq during an NBC interview in the midst of the 2000 presidential campaign, asserting that the US should not act as though “we were an imperialist power, willy-nilly moving into capitals in that part of the world, taking down governments.†[Washington Post, 1/12/02] A British member of Parliament will later say of the report: “This is a blueprint for US world domination—a new world order of their making. These are the thought processes of fantasist Americans who want to control the world.†[Sunday Herald, 9/7/02] Both PNAC and its strategy plan for Bush are almost virtually ignored by the media until a few weeks before the start of the Iraq war (see February-March 20, 2003).
People and organizations involved: Aaron Friedberg, Steve Forbes, Elliott Abrams, Francis Fukuyama, Norman Podhoretz, Henry S. Rowen, Vin Weber, Eliot A. Cohen, Hasam Amin, William J. Bennett, Midge Decter, George Weigel, John Ellis ("Jeb") Bush, Lewis ("Scooter") Libby, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard ("Dick") Cheney, Project for the New American Century, Paula J. Dobriansky, Frank Gaffney, Donald Kagan, Steve Rosen, Saddam Hussein, Peter Rodman, Zalmay M. Khalilzad, Dan Quayle, Syria, China, United States, Lybia, North Korea, Iraq, Fred C. Ikle
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?id=1521846767-2624
Well lookie there!
Mr. Cheney and Mr. Forbes BOTH signed the strategic document which, when implemented, enabled the largest build up in the history of defense contracting, while simultaneously implementing the Energy Strategy plan that was secretly developed in the company of none other than Ken Lay.
And what a coincidence that ABC News is playing its part in helping to push the Cheney agenda. Actually, it didn’t even require wiretapping to catch some of the coconspirators with foreknowledge of 9/11, and ABC News’ crack 20/20 investigative team knows the entire story:
http://www.antichristconspiracy.com/HTML%20Pages/ABCNEWS_com_Were_Israelis_Detained_Sept_11_Spies.htm
Oh look! We’ve come full-circle to the DANCING ISRAELIS!
Any coincidence theorists on the board?
January 25th, 2008 at 10:56 amDebka.com has outlined its evidence of Iraq’s WMD’s being moved to Syria.
http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=780
Debka.com began in the summer of 2000, and has since received Forbes’ Best of The Web award.
Comment by good_golly — January 25, 2008 @ 10:54 am
ROFL!!!! You cite this as "evidence"? A factless uncited article = reich-wing reality. Priceless.
I guess the fact that herr dubyah and his administration doesn't even admit to this propaganda means nothing to you as well?
January 25th, 2008 at 10:58 amSo Syria, a nation which supported Iran during the 8 year long Iran/Iraq War and then sent their troops into Iraq to fight alongside the US in 1991 to expel Iraq from Kuwait had a change of heart and decided to bail Saddam out and take his WMD's thus exposing their own nation to attack from the US.
Sure, sounds real logical.
-GSD
January 25th, 2008 at 10:58 amComment by good_golly — January 25, 2008 @ 10:57 am
Your lies and propaganda have been well established.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:58 amI wonder if the Huckster's limited knowledge of geography is a result of his "flat earther" leanings. Does he even believe in the Eastern Hemisphere?
January 25th, 2008 at 10:59 amF*(kabee & GiGi are certifiable. I'm calling for those nice young men ini clean white coats to bring along some strait-jackets.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:59 amDEBKA!
That pile of propagandistic dreck?
Funny. You might as well quote Borat.
-GSD
January 25th, 2008 at 10:59 amJesus H. Christ. That moron is like, retarded. :o/
January 25th, 2008 at 10:59 amIf this is true then,
our intelligence community sucks,
just like Cheney said~
January 25th, 2008 at 11:00 amComment by good_golly — January 25, 2008 @ 10:57 am
gg, you are once again proven as a liar:
You failed....again.....next
January 25th, 2008 at 11:01 amI hate nobody Quack Matt. Not even you.
Comment by good_golly
I believe you hate yourself....that is the only thing that can explain it.
good work plunger......I would much rather have factual data posted here than the fear and smear lies of the trolls. I am so tired of the lies. If people are going to come here then better to have lots of verifiable data for them to read than to provide a place for the trolls to deficate.......
January 25th, 2008 at 11:01 amGG:
We're all still breathlessly awaiting your stunning array of facts and links to disprove anything I have posted here.
Name calling simply will not cut it.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:01 amIt’s a conspiracy by the same dirty Jews that killed JFK, made Jimmy Hoffa disappear and keep captured UFO’s hidden in secret compounds. Those bastards!
Comment by good_golly — January 25, 2008 @ 10:59 am
Or the conspiracy that Saddam moved his WMD to Syria. Those bastards!
January 25th, 2008 at 11:01 amRight, Huckleberry! And the moon is really made of swiss cheese!
January 25th, 2008 at 11:02 amAwright, GiGi! way to keep the flame of right-wing delusion burning brightly!
And now you've got your very own presidential candidate too!
Man, I knew that trolls loved the idea that a ruthless dictator would hide his most powerful weapons rather than using them on the most powerful army on earth that was poised to invade his land, but I never thought a viable presidential candidate would go for that cockamamie theory.
But now that Gigi has produced a link to a story in the most reputable NY Sun, relying on the word of Saddam's no.2, I guess they've now got definitive proof. I mean, he's got to be just as trustworthy as Curveball, right?
January 25th, 2008 at 11:03 amgg is moments away from linking an article to newsmax to "prove" her point.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:03 amBreaking News:
John McCain sings: Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb JorDAN!
-GSD
January 25th, 2008 at 11:03 amAgain, if Bush would have permitted the inspectors to continue to do their job, we would have discovered the truth. All of this is pure conjecture and guesswork and a candidate who spews this nonsense is hammering a nail into their own campaign coffin.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:03 amAnd goony, gotta tell ya, yer soundin' pretty retarded yerself, boy. Yikes!!
January 25th, 2008 at 11:03 amThe Flying Spaghetti monster ordered Saddam's secret army of flying monkeys to signal the Asgard to beam up the WMDs and transported them to Alpha Centauri and to return them when the Islamofascist Easter Bunny signals the 'all clear'.
Yeah, that's what REALLY happened.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:04 amDebka.com has outlined its evidence of Iraq’s WMD’s being moved to Syria.
http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=780
Comment by good_golly — January 25, 2008 @ 10:54 am
From Debka:
So if all of Iraq's weapons were delivered by tanker trucks to Syria and Lebanon in January 2003, and we have conclusive satellite photos confirming this, then why was this not mentioned in Colin Powell's February 2003 address to the UN Security Council?
January 25th, 2008 at 11:04 amRalph: Curveball #2, indeed! This is all spin to garner support from the overwhelming disbelievers in this amoral, illegal war and support for their candidate. Drivel and bullshit - the GOP's mantra.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:05 am51. Thank you plunger....your posts have been enlightening! I usually just lurk and chuckle at the trolls but you have really been schooling me. I now have to find your other posts. Thanks again!
January 25th, 2008 at 11:05 amYou cite this as “evidence� A factless uncited article = reich-wing reality. Priceless.
Comment by Dr. Matt — January 25, 2008 @ 10:58 am
Dr. Matt. you have to account for the lowering of the bar on "facts" for the right-wing.
When reality is so unkind to their ideas, they kind of have to try to make chicken salad out of chicken sh!t. And then they have to convince themselves that it tastes good.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:05 amReally, who gives a flying poop ? Shock and Awe Syria, Jordan, and Iran with atomic and hydrogen bombs just for good measure and to be safe. They are just a bunch of Islamo-Fascist rag-heads. They got oil - we want it - send the troops in - so we can fuel up our SUVs.
Huckabee is a Christian/Zionist he can do anything he wants in the Middle East - provided it advances the Christo/Zionist Crusades for petroleum.
http://thumbsnap.com/v/87oEmMfo.jpg
January 25th, 2008 at 11:05 am48. I said no such thing Quack Matt. Disagree with me if you wish (like miss molly does quite well), but don’t lie about me.
Comment by good_golly
yes you did.....minister of misinformation and you want to be taken seriously
come on plunger......the liars are still getting in a lie or an assult on a poster every now and then.....they can't post anything that is credible so gg used general from israel as a source.....heh...now that's funny.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:06 amIndeed, toasterhead! If this not-so-covert delivery by tankers actually occurred, where was Bush's intel on it back then? Asleep while Powell lied? This is reichwing garbage now - an defacto and desperate attempt to convert the consciousness about WMD's. At this point, we know the truth and most americans are not buying a single word they have to say. The damage has been done. It's over for the Rethugs in 08 and they know it and are becoming very, very desperate.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:07 amAs I've said before:
If there were no WMD, Saddam wasn't a threat and the invasion was illegal.
If the WMD had been moved to Syria, Jordan, or anywhere else, Saddam wasn't a threat and the invasion was illegal.
If Saddam had WMD, and refused to use them against our invasion force, he wasn't a threat and the invasion was illegal.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:08 amMaybe the conversation needs to turn to the DU effects of our disgusting Shock & Awe?
January 25th, 2008 at 11:08 amThe ISG concluded that “Iraq unilaterally destroyed its undeclared chemical weapons stockpile in 1991.â€
yes, and while Saddam did use chemical weapons on the Kurds (we saw the shocking pics on TV at the time), that was in 1988... authorization for the attack Iraq was in 2002... why didn't we attack in 1988? oh, that's right, I forgot - we were allies!
January 25th, 2008 at 11:08 amMY GOD!!!!! The Easter Bunny is involved!!!!! These muslims will stop at nothing. no wait, that's not a muslim symbol..........
And now it's Jordan. This guy is pulling rabbits (pun) out of his republocrack.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:09 amHammer away on Huckabee all you want, but do it fairly. He is a VP candidate at best. I’ve already voted in my primary, and it wasn’t for him.
Comment by good_golly — January 25, 2008 @ 11:06 am
Who cares? We're hammering away at Huckabee (and you, too, Gigi) for embracing the absurd delusion that a ruthless tyrant with a stockpile of weapons of mass destruction would choose to stick them under the mattress rather than use them against his most hated enemy that had announced it was coming for him.
Seems fair to me to attack that magical thinking.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:09 amBush has weakened the US.
North Korea is dragging its feet on their disarmament.
Russia is threatening nuclear reprisals.
China is telling the US to F-off and humiliating the US by turning away US navy ships in Taiwan.
Iran has told the US to F-off and 'no thanks' we don't need to meet with you, period.
Al Qaeda is putting out more videos than Dane Cook.
-GSD
January 25th, 2008 at 11:09 amPete: Three for three and this supposed credible new info is totally irrelevant anyway. As you've so eloquently stated, it's a moot point if he moved it or there was no WMD. Six of one/half dozen of another - nothing credible or new to discuss here!!
January 25th, 2008 at 11:10 am51. Thank you plunger….your posts have been enlightening! I usually just lurk and chuckle at the trolls but you have really been schooling me. I now have to find your other posts. Thanks again!
Comment by multilee — January 25, 2008 @ 11:05 am
Let me help you out...a blogger (WinterPatriot) created sort of a "best of Plunger" site a couple years ago - though it hasn't been updated since:
http://plungerspeaks.blogspot.com
January 25th, 2008 at 11:10 amAl Qaeda is now launching a war on Easter!
Call Bill O'Reilly and tell him to drop the dildo and man the Easter Bunny barricades stat.
-GSD
January 25th, 2008 at 11:10 am“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State." --- Joseph Goebbels
January 25th, 2008 at 11:11 am77. The unique thing about the U.S. compared to other superpowers in history is that we do not go to war to take land or to capture other natural resources. If we had, we would own the likes of Mexico, Cuba, Japan, etc…. We have not taken Iraq’s oil, and have no intention of doing so.
Comment by good_golly — January 25, 2008 @ 11:09 am
BWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
January 25th, 2008 at 11:11 amI'll tell you what offends me. bush sent troops to assalt bagdad and had them wearing chemical suits for protection when they knew there was no chance of chemicals being used.....causing the deaths of many US soldiers.
Just one example of bush letting people die to cover his lies.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:12 amOh, Gigi... seek some help. Seriously.
Either you're being driven by an insatiable need for attention and thus are willing to say anything no matter how nonsensical in order to get that attention, or you're really delusional and should be on medication of some sort.
Only a qualified therapist can tell for sure.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:13 amgoodgolly you are wrong.
What the USA does is worse.
They try to export culture and reap benefits from resources indirectly.
It's cowardly and anti-Natioanlistic.
Mexico gives us cheap labor
January 25th, 2008 at 11:13 amCube gives us a cover for propping up the miltary-industrial complex (they used too anyway-now it's just a plave where we run torture centers).
Let me tell you a story about the Secretary of Defense you didn't read in the New York Times, related to me by General Jay Garner, the man our president placed in Baghdad as the US' first post-invasion viceroy.
Garner arrived in Kuwait City in March 2003 working under the mistaken notion that when George Bush called for democracy in Iraq, the President meant the Iraqis could choose their own government. Misunderstanding the President's true mission, General Garner called for Iraqis to hold elections within 90 days and for the U.S. to quickly pull troops out of the cities to a desert base. "It's their country," the General told me of the Iraqis. "And," he added, most ominously, "their oil."
Let's not forget: it's all about the oil. I showed Garner a 101-page plan for Iraq's economy drafted secretly by neo-cons at the State Department, Treasury and the Pentagon, calling for "privatization" (i.e. the sale) of "all state assets ... especially in the oil and oil-supporting industries." The General knew of the plans and he intended to shove it where the Iraqi sun don't shine. Garner planned what he called a "Big Tent" meeting of Iraqi tribal leaders to plan elections. By helping Iraqis establish their own multi-ethnic government -- and this was back when Sunnis, Shias and Kurds were on talking terms -- knew he could get the nation on its feet peacefully before a welcomed "liberation" turned into a hated "occupation."
But, Garner knew, a freely chosen coalition government would mean the death-knell for the neo-con oil-and-assets privatization grab.
On April 21, 2003, three years ago this month, the very night General Garner arrived in Baghdad, he got a call from Washington. It was Rumsfeld on the line. He told Garner, in so many words, "Don't unpack, Jack, you're fired."
Rummy replaced Garner, a man with years of on-the-ground experience in Iraq, with green-boots Paul Bremer, the Managing Director of Kissinger Associates. Bremer cancelled the Big Tent meeting of Iraqis and postponed elections for a year; then he issued 100 orders, like some tin-pot pasha, selling off Iraq's economy to U.S. and foreign operators, just as Rumsfeld's neo-con clique had desired.
http://newsblaze.com/story/20060416155145tsop.nb/newsblaze/OPINIONS/Opinions.html
January 25th, 2008 at 11:13 amSo a non-Arab Iraqi Christian who trained in the United States and who was once imprisoned by Saddam is making this assertion? Well, it must be true. Why would he have any reason to lie? Certainly not to curry favor with the invading army...
Comment by toasterhead — January 25, 2008 @ 10:49 am
Your logic also applies to Iraqi "...senior policy, program, or intelligence officials..." who didn't admit "...any direct knowledge of such movement of WMD." ;)
January 25th, 2008 at 11:14 amPete: Three for three and this supposed credible new info is totally irrelevant anyway. As you’ve so eloquently stated, it’s a moot point if he moved it or there was no WMD. Six of one/half dozen of another - nothing credible or new to discuss here!!
Comment by Veritas — January 25, 2008 @ 11:10 am
Thanx. But, it's not really complicated. Bushco turned us into a criminal nation and it's gonna take a looooong time to regain our standing.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:14 amyes, and while Saddam did use chemical weapons on the Kurds (we saw the shocking pics on TV at the time), that was in 1988… authorization for the attack Iraq was in 2002… why didn’t we attack in 1988? oh, that’s right, I forgot - we were allies!
Comment by Pete Bogs — January 25, 2008 @ 11:08 am
Don't forget who had the contract to build those chemical weapons plants in 1988:
http://www.democracynow.org/2003/12/24/declassified_documents_bechtel_planned_to_evade
January 25th, 2008 at 11:16 amReference, please, the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, by which the US stole about a third of mexico, i ncluding new mexico, arizona, california, colorado, utah, and nevada...
January 25th, 2008 at 11:17 amthe US in fact and in effect did own Cuba until Castro--that's why he's so hated...
Okinawa is nominally a japanese possession, but with 14 USer bases there, the distinction is moot...
So this scenario goes as we had to invade Iraq and topple Saddam because of WMD's that would be used against us. These WMD's are now in Jordan. But we don't know where they are in Jordan or who controls them. But they can still be used against us. Then the fear is still there. But we won't leave Iraq because it's AQ and insurgents will harm us (and now Iraqis).
I was going to go on but you get the picture.
How much blood and treasure needs to be lost on this? Who is going to pay? Who decides?
This administration has failed us and future generations because of fear. All who followed them are undeserving to lead or hold office in this country.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:17 amWell, we KNOW that Iraq USED to have WMD's.
Pres. Reagan SOLD them WMD's in the 80's!
This is a fact that neo-cons never want to talk about. Go figure.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:17 amcomment by GiGi @11:09
That it! I AM DEFINETLY CALLING FOR THOSE NICE YOUNG MEN IN THEIR CLEAN WHITE COATS TO TAKE GiGi AWAY IN A STAIT-JACKET.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:17 amyes, and while Saddam did use chemical weapons on the Kurds (we saw the shocking pics on TV at the time), that was in 1988… authorization for the attack Iraq was in 2002… why didn’t we attack in 1988? oh, that’s right, I forgot - we were allies!
Comment by Pete Bogs — January 25, 2008 @ 11:08 am
Don’t forget who had the contract to build those chemical weapons plants in 1988:
http://www.democracynow.org/ 2003/ 12/ 24/ declassified_documents_bechtel_planned_to_evade
Comment by toasterhead
when I examine our history with Iran, I just can't understand why they don't love us.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:18 amHammer away on Huckabee all you want, but do it fairly. He is a VP candidate at best. I’ve already voted in my primary, and it wasn’t for him.
Comment by good_golly — January 25, 2008 @ 11:06 am
Fairly...? Fairly...??
Yeah, like you reichers are fair to Hillary Clinton, Obama and John Edwards...?
Ri-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-ght. Whatever you say, goony. *eyeroll*
January 25th, 2008 at 11:18 am89. Plunger, you are right...it hasn't been updated since 2006 but its a good place to start, so thanks. You also dropped some serious links yesterday in other posts that I meant to bookmark and pass on to family. I'm hunting those down now.....
January 25th, 2008 at 11:19 amwhen I examine our history with Iran, I just can’t understand why they don’t love us.
Comment by Fred — January 25, 2008 @ 11:18 am
I know! They're so ungrateful, after we were nice enough to arm them in the 1980s through the Iran-Contra Scandal (while simultaneously arming their enemy in Iraq).
January 25th, 2008 at 11:20 amGood luck un-shitting that particular bed...
January 25th, 2008 at 11:21 amnagahapun...
under Bush, the USofA revealed its true nature: world-class bully, international thug and globalist gunsel. Once revealed, that cat is NOT going back in the bag.
The rest of the world is (still) less comatose from propaganda than are theinhabitants of the USofA...
when I examine our history with Iran, I just can’t understand why they don’t love us.
Comment by Fred — January 25, 2008 @ 11:18 am
I know! They’re so ungrateful, after we were nice enough to arm them in the 1980s through the Iran-Contra Scandal (while simultaneously arming their enemy in Iraq).
Comment by toasterhead
I know.....nothing like a good arms race to make the defense contractors richer.......funny....it's always republicans that sell out America.....hmm
January 25th, 2008 at 11:27 am77. The unique thing about the U.S. compared to other superpowers in history is that we do not go to war to take land or to capture other natural resources. If we had, we would own the likes of Mexico, Cuba, Japan, etc…. We have not taken Iraq’s oil, and have no intention of doing so.
Comment by good_golly — January 25, 2008 @ 11:09 am
Wrong. The unique thing about the U.S. compared to other superpowers is that we learned from their mistakes. We know from the examples of European Colonialism that it is extremely expensive to occupy a foreign country militarily in order to exploit their natural resources.
We learned in 1953, with the overthrow of Presiden Mossadegh in Iran, that it's so much easier to use covert operations and economic hit men to install friendly governments in these foreign countries who are then sympathetic to our corporations and sign lucrative deals with them that guarantee profits for the companies, cheap resources for Americans, and perpetual debt slavery and poverty for the people of these countries. We've been doing it around the world ever since, and we've gotten quite good at it.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:28 amComment by toasterhead — January 25, 2008 @ 11:28 am
Very well encapsulated, toasterhead.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:30 amOn the one hand it is absolutely amazing that we still have braindeads who still believe the WMD myth, but on the other hand if you can believe the earth is only 6,00 years old, that a dead guy walks out of a cave after 3 days, and a virgin gave birth it's no stretch to believe the WMD bullshit.
Who needs facts and reality when you have blind faith?
By the way, if you don't have BDS, if you don't hate that miserable lying POS, you aren't paying attention. See you 25%ers next year.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:32 amWe have not taken Iraq’s oil, and have no intention of doing so.
Comment by good_golly — January 25, 2008 @ 11:09 am
We have not taken Iraq's oil yet because we haven't been able to. As far as our intentions -- we have been told that we invaded because Iraq had WMDs, Iraq was key in the "war on terror", Saddam Hussein was just a really bad guy who needed to be taken out, etc. etc. etc. All BS -- the real reason we're there is for the oil, and everybody knows it.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:35 amThe unique thing about the U.S. compared to other superpowers in history is that we do not go to war to take land or to capture other natural resources. If we had, we would own the likes of Mexico, Cuba, Japan, etc…. We have not taken Iraq’s oil, and have no intention of doing so.
Comment by good_golly — January 25, 2008 @ 11:09 am
Unique indeed. We send in our military and turn the fruits of "labor" over to the corporations so the rich can get richer while the average American pays their tax dollars to hand it over.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:37 amWe have not taken Iraq’s oil yet because we haven’t been able to. As far as our intentions — we have been told that we invaded because Iraq had WMDs, Iraq was key in the “war on terrorâ€, Saddam Hussein was just a really bad guy who needed to be taken out, etc. etc. etc. All BS — the real reason we’re there is for the oil, and everybody knows it.
Comment by missmolly — January 25, 2008 @ 11:35 am
Depends what you mean by "taken" I guess. As of November 2007 we were importing 508,000 barrels a day from Iraq:
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html
January 25th, 2008 at 11:38 amI just wonder if these folks (huck) just totally insulate themselves from anyone who might call them out on this.
I mean even at dinner an intelligent person might say "your statement about wmd was wrong and it has been proven time and time again. Not even the people who started the lie are trying to say it was true anymore"
Do they just laugh because it just a political game, or what? Christians around the country should be calling these fakes out......people like huck make real christians look not just bad but evil......looks like you real christians would be getting tired of it by now.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:39 amI just wonder if these folks (huck) just totally insulate themselves from anyone who might call them out on this.
Comment by Fred — January 25, 2008 @ 11:39 am
They don't have to insulate themselves. All they have to do is appear before the corporate-sponsored mainstream media, who don't bother to call them out on anything they say.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:42 amWe have not taken Iraq’s oil, and have no intention of doing so.
Comment by good_golly — January 25, 2008 @ 11:09 am
We have not taken Iraq’s oil yet because we haven’t been able to. As far as our intentions — we have been told that we invaded because Iraq had WMDs, Iraq was key in the “war on terrorâ€, Saddam Hussein was just a really bad guy who needed to be taken out, etc. etc. etc. All BS — the real reason we’re there is for the oil, and everybody knows it.
Comment by missmolly
agreed, who do you think is working the oilfields and the refineries.........the iraqies? Iraq will/has sign with american oil companies.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:42 amYou guys are being too hard on Huck. He wasn't talking about Easter Eggs that are pretty colors, he was talking about easter eggs like those on DVDs. When he gets to the White House, he's going to use the presidential remote, press down down left up, and the WMDs will magically appear on doorsteps all over Beirut.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:46 amWhen I come to these kinds of blogs and comment sections where I can actually engage conservatives, sometimes I just feel demeaned that I have to spend time dealing with such incredible stupidity. It's like sitting at home in the kitchen arguing with a potato.
What an embarassment.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:46 amComment by Gin
The article was from:
December 16, 1998
He did not invade or occupy.
I tell you the truth. I'm tired of answering to trolls. gg used a general from israels army as a credible source that the wmd were there and expected to be taken seriously.
I will talk abut the trolls but not to them.........
January 25th, 2008 at 11:47 amGive it up, Gin. You've been peddling that irrelevant little link for days now, and everything everyone has said in response is still valid. (1998 is not 2003, Clinton did not invade, Bush lied, you're stupid...)
Face it. You lose.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:47 amIt’s like sitting at home in the kitchen arguing with a potato.
What an embarassment.
Comment by lefty — January 25, 2008 @ 11:46 am
I find this statement highly offensive to potatoes.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:49 amIt’s like sitting at home in the kitchen arguing with a potato.
Comment by lefty — January 25, 2008 @ 11:46 am
I don't know, Lefty... at least a potato isn't going to answer back with right-wing deluding points. At least you can pretend a potato is actually capable of considering what you're saying.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:49 amI think it’s more likely that that weapons of mass destruction that we know that he at one time had, he used weapons against the Kurds, good chance they may have gone to Jordan. We don’t know where they are.
What? Rummy's a liar?
January 25th, 2008 at 11:53 amI will talk abut the trolls but not to them………
Comment by Fred — January 25, 2008 @ 11:47 am
I respect that position, Fred.
I personally am not as consistent when it comes to trolls. With some I will engage, some I will ignore, some I will just ridicule. It depends, for me, on how they behave. I trust this will not be a problem with us.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:55 amDo they just laugh because it just a political game, or what? Christians around the country should be calling these fakes out……people like huck make real christians look not just bad but evil……looks like you real christians would be getting tired of it by now.
Comment by Fred — January 25, 2008 @ 11:39 am
Fred, you don't understand. The Christian leadership says that Muslum leaders should call out the radical terrorists.
The Christian leaders don't believe its their job to call out hypocrites in their own ranks. I mean whats a "white lie" now and then, when more important things are at stake. Gay marriage is a threat to their marriages, don't ya know? Must stop the gays from getting married because if they marry, there are fewer to pick up in the bars and bathrooms and it makes people like Haggard unhappy with their marriage.
/snark
January 25th, 2008 at 11:57 amOh if you argue with a potato long enough it starts saying how you hate the troops and you want us to lose in Iraq, how you're a socialist who just wants everyone to eat broccoli, and how you want every potato to die in a terrorist attack because you won't let President Bush spy on your potato garden.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:58 amhttp://www.nysun.com/article/26514
Comment by good_golly
You gotta love goon_golly. Something that is reported in the Sun (moonie paper) is the definitive truth and everything that the weapons inspectors said was wrong.
How's your Tinkerbell world these days goony?
January 25th, 2008 at 12:00 pmLatest News From the CNN wire plus my commentary. When will we put a stop to this kind of media intrusion?
* Iraq preps for 'decisive' battle with al Qaeda 45 min - Terrorists will kill you!
January 25th, 2008 at 12:00 pm* Suspected killers -- beware of these guys - Men are dangerous
* Ledger on London set 2 days before death Video - You need to be a celebrity.
* Bill Gates new project -- farming - Rich people are nice - become rich.
* N.Y. Times makes endorsements, rips Giuliani - Media squabbling
* Commentary: Media out of touch with voters - Same
* Ticker: McCain's mom slams Republican base - Filler
* Sailor dad shocks kids, won't leave again Video - Dads can be responsible, sometimes.
* WSB: Fans line up for $230 Air Jordans - Kids NEED these shoes
* SI: Federer's Grand Slam finals streak ends - Tennis?
* Entire staff fired at failing school - You must always win!
* Losing 110 lbs transforms woman's life 58 min - Thin is beautiful
* Miss America pageant mocks contestants 31 min - Beautiful is cool.
* WKMG: 20,000 frisky bats delay freeway work - Pointless sex story.
* Spiteful worker deletes files worth millions - Poor corporations.
Oh if you argue with a potato long enough it starts saying how you hate the troops and you want us to lose in Iraq, how you’re a socialist who just wants everyone to eat broccoli, and how you want every potato to die in a terrorist attack because you won’t let President Bush spy on your potato garden.
Comment by lefty — January 25, 2008 @ 11:58 am
This is what you get for buying genetically-modified, conventionally-grown potatoes. I strongly suggest you switch to organics.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:02 pmOh if you argue with a potato long enough it starts saying how you hate the troops and you want us to lose in Iraq, how you’re a socialist who just wants everyone to eat broccoli, and how you want every potato to die in a terrorist attack because you won’t let President Bush spy on your potato garden.
Comment by lefty — January 25, 2008 @ 11:58 am
Oh, hell. In that case, just bake the motherf*@ker.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:02 pmI strongly suggest you switch to organics.
Comment by toasterhead — January 25, 2008 @ 12:02 pm
Didn't you know? The Doughy Pantload says organic foods are fascist!
January 25th, 2008 at 12:03 pmI wouldn't even want this guy to run my college class, let alone the Exec Branch!
January 25th, 2008 at 12:03 pmThis is what you get for buying genetically-modified, conventionally-grown potatoes. I strongly suggest you switch to organics.
But the organic potatoes make for bad practice in arguing with conservatives.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:05 pmI personally am not as consistent when it comes to trolls. With some I will engage, some I will ignore, some I will just ridicule. It depends, for me, on how they behave. I trust this will not be a problem with us.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama
Not at all Ralph......
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January 25th, 2008 at 12:06 pmDon’t know any democrats who will say that….. or voted against it in the first place.
Total honesty.
It’s what we need.
Comment by Constitutionalist
Dennis Kucinich said that and acted on it long before Ron Paul did.
Personally, I'm not sure that Paul really believes the things he is saying about Iraq. I think he may just be very clever and realize that a politician from the right who thinks that Iraq was a mistake might just appeal to the 68% of Americans who say that Iraq was a mistake.
I don't trust Paul as far as I could throw him.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:07 pm"I don’t trust Paul as far as I could throw him"
With the right wind-elevation and wind-speed you could probably get some good air on the Presidential candidate. I say we take this to Mythbusters. Who's in?
(P.S - I think Ron Paul and the now departed Kucinich are fantastic)
January 25th, 2008 at 12:13 pmWhat an embarrassment to this country to have a clown like this still in the mix. Is this phenomenon unique to the good ol’ USofA or do other countries in the western hemisphere also have a significant populations of cretins who support and legitimize fools such as huckabee? I mean come one, people. Haven’t you learned your lesson with dumbya?!?!
Says a lot about the current state of the repugnican party. Pathetic!
January 25th, 2008 at 12:13 pmPersonally, I’m not sure that Paul really believes the things he is saying about Iraq. I think he may just be very clever and realize that a politician from the right who thinks that Iraq was a mistake might just appeal to the 68% of Americans who say that Iraq was a mistake.
I don’t trust Paul as far as I could throw him.
Comment by bilbobaggins — January 25, 2008 @ 12:07 pm
I don't trust the guy either, but his stance on Iraq is consistent with his libertarianism and after watching the guy take so much abuse from the "conservative" Republicans I'm positive he's completely sincere.
And, frankly, I could throw the little bastard a considerable distance.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:14 pmWe have not taken Iraq’s oil, and have no intention of doing so.
Comment by good_golly
LOL!!!!!!!
We’ve been doing it around the world ever since, and we’ve gotten quite good at it.
Comment by toasterhead
The whole post was perfect.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:17 pmI don’t trust Ron Paul as far as you can throw him either.
Comment by good_golly
Yet...you trust the Egg Easter Preacher. Go figure.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:19 pmSays a lot about the current state of the repugnican party. Pathetic!
Comment by LividLib
I think it's just window dressing....I think the moderate and even some right leaning conservatives have seen enough of this type of conservatism.....I think you will see large numbers of them stay home in november. This type of conservatism will die and may take the republican party with it......we can only hope.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:19 pmWe have not taken Iraq’s oil, and have no intention of doing so.
Comment by good_golly
You are a complete joke.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:19 pmDuring Thursday's Republican debate, moderator Tim Russert asked the candidates: Was the war in Iraq a good idea and has it been worth the blood and treasure we have lost. Watch their answers: Viedeo
John McCain, the Republican Party's most relentless and unapologetic guardian of an enduring American presence in Iraq, has become the favored candidate of antiwar voters in the Republican primaries, according to exit polls.
With the exception of Dr. Ron Paul, do you support the Republican Candidates' position on the Iraq War?
http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1631
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January 25th, 2008 at 12:21 pmThe whole post was perfect.
Comment by Juan C. — January 25, 2008 @ 12:17 pm
Thanks, though I made a few errors in detail. Mohammad Mosaddeq was Prime Minister of Iran, not President. And I misspelled President. I apologize for this error.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:22 pmTechnically correct on the oil. They have yet to take it. But they now control it, so they can drive up the price by keeping it in Iraq rather than allowing it out. The only reason they don't outright own the oil is because the "Hydrocarbon Law" has yet to get Iraqi Parliamentary approval because Iraqi politicians are rather worried that they will not live to see the profits it the legislation passes. Rant over.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:23 pmFacing off in last night's debate just days before Florida's make-or-break primary, the assembled Republican White House hopefuls were, so to speak, untrue to form. While Mitt Romney performed new backflips to extricate himself from the flip-flops that define so him, John McCain tried to evade his past confessions of his ignorance of economics. And once again, Mike Huckabee pretended to disavow the theocratic agenda obviously central to his campaign.
For the run down on last night's GOP debate lies, see:
January 25th, 2008 at 12:30 pm"Fibbing in Florida: GOP Candidates Stay Untrue to Form."
This is stupid. Even Saddam told us in capitivity that he lied and tried to act like he had WMD when he didn't. Of course this was the reason the world believed he had them and the reason we had to attack, but none the less Saddam lied to us. Sadly the World, the Administration, the Repugs, and the Dems believed Saddam and we were forced to invade. Huck is wrong.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:32 pmSee there bilbo, we have found common ground. I don’t trust Ron Paul as far as you can throw him either.
Comment by good_golly — January 25, 2008 @ 12:10 pm
But you trust Reverand Moon and Rupert Murdock, SHUT UP!
January 25th, 2008 at 12:36 pmThis is stupid. Even Saddam told us in capitivity that he lied and tried to act like he had WMD when he didn’t.
Comment by Roger_Roger — January 25, 2008 @ 12:32 pm
It's comforting to know that almost 4,000 American soldiers, over 1 million Iraqis, and $2 trillion have been wasted on a practical joke.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:37 pm152
rr's logic.......sadam was too smart.....he duped us. this petty dictator fooled the whold world and their intelligence networks......then he wants you to believe that everyone thought sadam had wmd......which is untrue.....even I, who had internet access knew better because my info did not come from bush....end.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:38 pmgummitch, you can only count the horizontal component of distance. If you dropped RP off of, say the edge of the Grand Canyon, you don't get credit for the mile vertical.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:40 pmEven Saddam told us in capitivity that he lied and tried to act like he had WMD when he didn’t. Of course this was the reason the world believed he had them and the reason we had to attack, but none the less Saddam lied to us. Sadly the World, the Administration, the Repugs, and the Dems believed Saddam and we were forced to invade. Huck is wrong.
Comment by Roger_Roger — January 25, 2008 @ 12:32 pm
So you have a link to the video of Saddam's confession, right Rog? Well put it up so we can all see it.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:41 pmwe were forced to invade.
LOL Saddam was so smart that Bush was forced to invade. LOL
RR is bing stupid again.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:42 pmRR is bing stupid again.
Comment by Nature Rules — January 25, 2008 @ 12:42 pm
STILL.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:42 pmoops,
RR is being stupid again.
OR
RR is, BING, stupid again.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:43 pmgummitch, you can only count the horizontal component of distance. If you dropped RP off of, say the edge of the Grand Canyon, you don’t get credit for the mile vertical.
Comment by nanlichi — January 25, 2008 @ 12:40 pm
You've never seen me use my hips; I can get a pretty good launch horizontally.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:45 pmwe were forced to invade.
Comment by Roger_Roger — January 25, 2008 @ 12:32 pm
You have a strange idea of "being forced to do something", R2.
Very strange indeed.
Of course, that may be just a function of your need to place the blame for the invasion somewhere other than at the feet of a Republican president.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:48 pmThe Bush-commissioned Iraq Survey Group, charged with determining the truth regarding Saddam’s weapons programs, declared in its final assessment that “it was unlikely†that any such official transfer to Syria took place...
Hard to "transfer" weapons that don't exist.
The ISG had plenty enough time to talk to anyone that might have been involved in any such transfers, and plenty of time to talk to the people who would have known about even the existence of such weapons. In talks with the latter, and examination of records, etc., they concluded that the weapons programs had been shut down and that there were no such weapons.
Cheers,
January 25th, 2008 at 12:50 pm"we were forced to invade"
comment by RR
Yeah, right. those Democrats would not let Bush rest until he relented and invaded as they demanded. Those nasty ole' Democrats forced Bush to invade Iraq, just as they are demanding that he now invade Iran.
Grow up you f*(kwad.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:51 pmOne more note: Last night Brian Williams and Russert Potato were comparing electability of McCain to Clinton and Obama. Guess who they conveniently left out??
January 25th, 2008 at 12:52 pmHave you seen Hucklebee's teeth?
The guy needs to see a dentist.
∞
January 25th, 2008 at 12:52 pmRev. Huck is certainly entertaining us while the writers are still on strike. I'm waiting for Huck to say that Bin Laden is really chained up in the WH basement.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:53 pmHave you seen Hucklebee’s teeth?
The guy needs to see a dentist.
∞
Comment by alphainfinityomega — January 25, 2008 @ 12:52 pm
What's up troll? Trying to pass as a progressive? Is this the latest fad, all you trolls are doing it.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:55 pmFrom Debka:
"Indeed the US administration and its intelligence agencies, as well as Dr Kay, were all provided with Syrian maps marked with the coordinates of the secret weapons storage sites. The largest one is located at Qaratshuk at the heart of a desolate and unfrequented region edged with marshes, south of the Syrian town of Al Qamishli near the place where the Iraqi, Syrian and Turkish frontiers converge; smaller quantities are hidden in the vast plain between Al Qamishli and Az Zawr, and a third is under the ground of the Lebanese Beqaa Valley on the Syrian border."
Do "find/replace" with "Salman Pak" for "Qaratshuk" and "palaces" for "ground". How's it scan? Sound familiar?
Cheers,
January 25th, 2008 at 1:03 pm#104 Fred:
...when I examine our history with Iran, I just can’t understand why they don’t love us.
Indeed. Stephen Kinzer's fine book "All The Shah's Men" is required reading for anyone who wants to understand the region.
Stephen Kinzer's fine book "Overthrow" is required reading for anyone who wants to understand U.S. foreign policy for the last century.
Cheers,
January 25th, 2008 at 1:10 pm#166 alphainfinityomega
Have you seen Hucklebee’s teeth?
The guy needs to see a dentist.
No problem. They just pale in comparison to Chuck Norris's pearly white dentures (and trophy wife) flashing constantly right beside Huck in every public appearance.
Cheers,
January 25th, 2008 at 1:16 pmWell, since the Idiot-in-Chief pulled the WMDs out of his ass in the first place, perhaps they have been thus returned. I would encourage the Huckster to start inspections immediately...
January 25th, 2008 at 1:25 pmThe really important question is: Why does he believe WMD were in Iraq during the run up to the war and why does he believe they were moved to Jordan?
If he has no reasons for having these beliefs, he should be ridiculed as being brainwashed.
January 25th, 2008 at 1:26 pmSpeaking of the Republican debate...
who do you think whispered in Mittens' ear on a question about Saint Raygun?
Was he wearing a wire?
Was John McCain helping him cheat?
Or was Ronnie speaking to him from beyond the grave?
January 25th, 2008 at 1:30 pmSo from bush to Huckabee we just go from dumb to dumber?
January 25th, 2008 at 1:40 pm#152 - "Even Saddam told us in capitivity that he lied and tried to act like he had WMD when he didn’t. " Comment by Roger_Roger — January 25, 2008 @ 12:32 pm
Well, aside from the WMD's that Pres. Reagan sold him in the 80's, he never had WMD's.
January 25th, 2008 at 1:42 pmNow just how would the govenor know this; did he speak with Pat Robertson or did Yogi the Bear admit the WMDs where in his pic-a-nic basket?
January 25th, 2008 at 1:43 pmHuckabee: Iraq’s WMD Were Hidden Like ‘Easter Eggs’ And Then Moved To Jordan
Yeah, by themselves, with their tiny legs.
January 25th, 2008 at 1:43 pmHuck a Puck says :
I think it’s more likely that that weapons of mass destruction that we know that he at one time had, he used weapons against the Kurds, good chance they may have gone to Jordan. We don’t know where they are.
Geez, at least give the right credit for consistency, even when wrong. He would make a great successor to our current Liar In Charge, in as much as making $hit up!
By the way, the reason we don't know where they are is because.....
January 25th, 2008 at 1:54 pmthey aren't (in existent). Man, that must hurt like hell, eh righties. To have the French, the Germans, heck even the U.N. be correct (in assessing that the sanctions imposed by Bush I and Clinton actually prevented the production of WMD)
You guys are too funny (in a really sad sort of way)
179 nice rant DrxJ....right on the button.....
i'm stealin your last paragraph.........pretty succinct.
January 25th, 2008 at 2:09 pm.
Up-Chuck-abee, the great Christian orator, supports war and lying.
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January 25th, 2008 at 2:25 pmThanks, though I made a few errors in detail. Mohammad Mosaddeq was Prime Minister of Iran, not President. And I misspelled President. I apologize for this error.
Comment by toasterhead
The jury then is forced to withdraw the award. :)
January 25th, 2008 at 2:32 pm77. The unique thing about the U.S. compared to other superpowers in history is that we do not go to war to take land or to capture other natural resources. If we had, we would own the likes of Mexico, Cuba, Japan, etc…. We have not taken Iraq’s oil, and have no intention of doing so.
Comment by good_golly — January 25, 2008 @ 11:09 am
The whole USA is made over the dead bodies of indians. Texas. Cuba. Panama (formerly known as Colombia).
Please, stop dreaming. Your country isn't la la land.
January 25th, 2008 at 3:06 pmNo problem. They just pale in comparison to Chuck Norris’s pearly white dentures (and trophy wife) flashing constantly right beside Huck in every public appearance.
Cheers,
Comment by zuch — January 25, 2008 @ 1:16 pm
But, what is waiting Chuck for circle kicking the whole electorate and make them vote for Huckabee?
January 25th, 2008 at 3:25 pmHuckabee would like to amend the Constitution to reflect his understanding of God's will in order to establish an idiocracy.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:33 pmHuckabee: Iraq’s WMD Were Hidden Like ‘Easter Eggs’
heard on randi -
does this mean SADDAM is (was) the EASTER BUNNY?
ah hahahaha! have you heard that one?
January 25th, 2008 at 5:48 pmEvery time Huckleberry speaks on any foreign policy issue he embarasses himself and the entire Repube party. But, the debate moment that still amazes me is when Russert reminds McCain that he said he didn't know much about economics and why should the American people trust him to fix the economy. McCain basically says I didn't say that, where did you get that quote - and Russert just lets it go. Nothing displays the double-standard in the way these phonies treat repubes as opposed to Dems better than this exchange. Does anyone doubt that Russert would have played "gottcha" with Hillary Clinton over something like this and actually read the quote?
January 25th, 2008 at 7:52 pmSo the reason why no WMDs were ever found in Iraq was because they were all secretly moved to Jordan?
Uh, huh...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
With reasoning like Hucksterbee's, you might just as well claim that the moon really is made of green cheese. Hey, just because the Apollo missions didn't find any doesn't mean it isn't there! You see, they just didn't dig down far enough under all the dust and rocks and everything...but we know it's there!
Puh-leeeeeeeze...gimme a break. This is just a conspiracy theory for the Faux News crowd and only serves to demonstrate that some people will cling to any idea no matter how far-fetched or preposterous in order to avoid facing the fact that they were mistaken. Deep down, their egos are so incredibly fragile that they simply can't bear to face the fact that they're human and therefore not infallible. Sad, really...
January 25th, 2008 at 9:28 pm"Just because you haven't found ALL the Easter eggs..."
How about ANY?
January 25th, 2008 at 10:43 pmI think it’s more likely that that weapons of mass destruction [...] may have gone to Jordan. We don’t know where they are.
They are in your head, Mr. Huckabee, in your head. That's where those WMD are.
The US was able to take pictures of those famous "mobile labs", but couldn't track the movement of WMD across the border to
SyriaJordan?At some point, the loons who use this excuse have to realise they are actually accusing the Bush administration of incompetence. Not that I would necessarily disagree.
January 26th, 2008 at 1:13 amThe quickest way to shoot down this revisionist history crap Hucks pushing here is to ask, "Well, if the WsMD weren't in Iraq, if they were in (Syria/Jordan/take your pick), then why did we bomb Iraq and leave the WsMD-which we invaded Iraq for-untouched in (Syria/Jordan/take your pick)"?
January 26th, 2008 at 1:24 amIt's also entirely POSSIBLE that the WMDs were hidden under beds in the brothels in Amsterdam. Or camouflaged under lotus petals on Rose Parade floats just before New Year's. Or shoved in the trunk of that SUV that Britney Spears was hitting with an umbrella. Or maybe piled onto the base of the flaming Burning Man effigy out in the Nevada desert. Hey, if Huckleberry can spew such gibberish, then I sure as heck can too! Gotta admit, gettin' all Huckleberryish with the keyboard at ThinkProgress is fun!
January 26th, 2008 at 2:57 am