Students plan to protest Rove speech.
By on Jan 25th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
Students plan to protest Rove speech.
Students at the prestigious prep school Choate Rosemary Hall are protesting the choice of Karl Rove as their commencement speaker. AP reports that some students “plan to walk out, while “others are trying to bring comedian Stephen Colbert to campus for an alternate speech.” The campus newspaper has also written an editorial urging the school to reject Rove.
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January 25th, 2008 at 6:58 pm.
Why is Rove still allowed to rove collage campuses freely?
Why is there not a prosecution, let alone an investigation into this man?
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January 25th, 2008 at 7:01 pmHe should be giving speeches from a Jail cell.
Buck Fush
January 25th, 2008 at 7:03 pmWho would make the choice of Rove for a commencement speech? Topic of how to do the most corrupt business and smear tactics?
January 25th, 2008 at 7:04 pmWhy promote a known fascist? These kids know the truth about this government and are intelligent enough to voice their opposition. Bravo to the generation who will chastise us! We've failed them abysmally, that's for sure.
January 25th, 2008 at 7:06 pmBuckieBoy: Rove will be doing speeches from a prison cell when the people of this country get through with him. His time is coming.
January 25th, 2008 at 7:07 pmYou've gotta hand it to TP for their photo selection though. He looks like he's posing for next year's turkey with that waddle and/or trying out for "Father Time". His hairline, among other things to do with him, are "waving good-bye"!
January 25th, 2008 at 7:08 pmI dont understand why the college officials would even invite Rove to be speaker. He doesn't represent anything that could be construed as inspirational or exemplary for graduates. He's not an entertainer either. He is a crook, a lying, devious political figure who is a master of dirty tricks, smear campaigns and double-dealing.
January 25th, 2008 at 7:10 pmI thought we wanted to promote integrity and morals among our youth ? Hope the Editorial sways the promoter of this asinine idea.
January 25th, 2008 at 7:10 pmMore importantly who selected Rove? Focus outrage there... As an older student who has returned to college I find the general knowledge among students is appalling. (Which is sort of the reason I chose to return to get a certification to teach history) The education system is one of the last bastions we have here in the US against turning the populace into sheep, if they have not already become so.
The corporate footprint looms large in higher education these days. Sadly most students seek out education for a position in the "system" instead of for the ability to think critically.
January 25th, 2008 at 7:10 pmhttp://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2008/01/latimes.html
Latimes democratic runup counter
January 25th, 2008 at 7:12 pmI think it's great that these students consider Stephen Colbert as a balance to Rove. It just proves that Rove is a joke.
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January 25th, 2008 at 7:13 pmRove is trying not to be irrelevent, but he is.
January 25th, 2008 at 7:14 pmRove's the perfect speaker for the event, not for the kids, but for their GOPhuque parents, who'd lap it up.
January 25th, 2008 at 7:19 pmChoate's not a college, it's an elite prep school.
The kind that low-class/no-class, peasant-stock Rove's only other possible entre into would have been as a janitor or a cook.
"the choice of Karl Rove as their commencement speaker"
Maybe the "choice" is a gay thing...nothin' wrong with dat...jus' sayin'...
January 25th, 2008 at 7:21 pmIt is a given that Rove couldn't speak at any college or University without being shouted down. But his past haunts him even at an elite boarding school? Sheeesh. Might have to spend the balance of his days hiding in the shed at Crawford.
January 25th, 2008 at 7:22 pmI hope that Democrat girl, who beat him up at age nine when Rove supported Nixon, shows up for this.
January 25th, 2008 at 7:25 pmRove’s the perfect speaker for the event, not for the kids, but for their GOPhuque parents, who’d lap it up.
Choate’s not a college, it’s an elite prep school.
The kind that low-class/no-class, peasant-stock Rove’s only other possible entre into would have been as a janitor or a cook.
Comment by tokin librul — January 25, 2008 @ 7:19 pm
If true, and I don't doubt you, this makes sense.
And, this is good news, we now have the little RePugniScums at this school ready to eat their own parents and reject the Facism and RePugniScumism in which they were raised!!
January 25th, 2008 at 7:26 pmMight have to spend the balance of his days hiding in the shed at Crawford.
Comment by moondancer — January 25, 2008 @ 7:22 pm
Not in the shed, in Botch's bed!! Laura is soooo lonely!
January 25th, 2008 at 7:28 pmI would be pissed off if that flaccid fascist was my commencement speaker.
I'd rather Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer....anyone with less blood on their hands than this pasty assed hitman.
-GSD
January 25th, 2008 at 7:33 pmThe parents and staff would do well to listen to their offspring.
Rove is a has-been who deals in old ideas and, well, outright lies, and thats, really, not an American trait that anyone should, or would perhaps, pass unto their children. You want a good commencement speaker for your kids, something they will hold dear? Let them pick it.
January 25th, 2008 at 7:34 pmHooray, some political hatchet man who doesn't have a college degree!
Gag me........
-GSD
January 25th, 2008 at 7:34 pmNot in the shed, in Botch’s bed!! Laura is soooo lonely!
Comment by dixie blood — January 25, 2008 @ 7:28 pm
I'm thinking more that it would be Jeff Gannon's bed.
January 25th, 2008 at 7:35 pmMaybe they can arrest Rove (finally) when he shows up. He keeps slipping through the long arms of the law somehow.
January 25th, 2008 at 7:38 pmI’m thinking more that it would be Jeff Gannon’s bed.
Comment by Brain From Planet Arous — January 25, 2008 @ 7:35 pm
That too. I'm sure Rove is a "whore hopper!" A real serial sleeper you know.
January 25th, 2008 at 7:44 pmY'all are acting like being a criminal, lying to the American people, is a bad thing.
Puh-lease.
Obviously, in politics it is a good thing.
Otherwise y'all wouldn't have voted bush in.... twice.
January 25th, 2008 at 7:58 pm.
#26 Comment by americangoy — January 25, 2008 @ 7:58 pm
The first part... LOL
That last comment needs some truthiness to it.
In 2000, Harris, the Florida Bush/Cheney State Chair and SOS (obvious conflict of interest) sealed the deal and the Supreme Court of Florida agreed with her when the Constitution clearly does not mention anything about the Court's Right to insert itself into the election process. BUSH WAS SELECTED IN 2000!
In 2004, Blackwell, the Ohio Bush/Cheney reelection State Chair and SOS (obvious conflict of interest, we learned nothing from 2000?) allowed the voting machines to be "redistributed" throughout precincts and knew (later proven through testimony) that the software was hijackable and not reliable to secure even one vote. Several counties had lost tabulated votes and could not verify accurately the intent of each voter (a hanging chad, of sorts). The totals in Ohio should have been thrown out! THE 2006 ELECTIONS WERE STOLEN!
BUSH WAS NEVER ELECTED TWICE!
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January 25th, 2008 at 8:19 pm#4 texaslady:
Who would make the choice of Rove for a commencement speech?
I think I've got the answer. Posted on my blog.
Cheers,
January 25th, 2008 at 8:27 pmOtherwise y’all wouldn’t have voted bush in…. twice.
Comment by americangoy — January 25, 2008 @ 7:58 pm
This isnt a freeper site goyim
January 25th, 2008 at 8:39 pmBy looking at the flap of skin under Roves jaw they should call hin Rooster.
January 25th, 2008 at 8:42 pmWhy wouldn't the students want MC Rove? He's down wid it.
January 25th, 2008 at 8:47 pmBy looking at the flap of skin under Roves jaw they should call hin Rooster.
Comment by Xisithrus — January 25, 2008 @ 8:42 pm
Although gobbler might be more appropriate given his penchant for boys.
January 25th, 2008 at 9:15 pmK A R L
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Despite his prior illegal actions, Karl Rove still retained his security clearance, and knew for WEEKS prior to London’s latest fake terror alert what was coming. The odds that Rove himself advised London precisely what time to make this announcement are approximately 100%.
This gave Rove the time necessary to plan a full frontal assault on the minds of the American People.
Bill O’Reilly revealed Classified information in his recent live interview with Mossad Agent Michael Chertoff. While Chertoff wouldn’t confirm or deny it, O’Reilly revealed that the FISA PROCESS was utilized to obtain warrants prior to placing wiretaps on some suspects in the US. While none of the suspects in the US was deemed to have been involved, this example was clear proof that the FISA Court WORKS – to the chagrin of Gonzales.
http://progressivedailybeacon.com/more.php?page=opinion&id=1235
Neo-Con Madmen Strike Again - The London Fear Frenzy
Well before Wednesday the administration was aware of Britain's plans to launch a raid against a possible terror plot.
With the knowledge of a terror-scare coming soon, all day Wednesday the entire Neo-Conservative Republican political apparatus had been busy assailing their political enemy's supposed unwillingness to fight terrorism. On Thursday the Neo-Con assault intensified and finally peaked when news of the British scheme was made public. Then, in the most vile and unbecoming manner possible, Republicans accused Democrats of having forgotten the attacks of 9/11. Some Republicans were even gleeful enough to remind reporters that with the anniversary of 9/11 fast approaching their attack on Democrats, coupled with the London conspiracy would do wonders for their lagging poll numbers:
"Weeks before September 11th, this is going to play big," one White House official said.
P L A Y
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For Karl Rove, terror is THE GAME.
The timing of the release of this information was not coincidental. Let’s take a look at how many other circumstances coincided with this fake terror scare…
Lieberman was not the Democratic Party candidate - he was quite literally the Israeli candidate.
AIPAC lost to Lamont, cracking the door open for an anti-AIPAC rebellion at the polls.
Less than 36 hours later...
"TERROR IN THE SKIES" was the headline on all news programming in the United States - and CNN would have you believe that the entire world changed that day (again).
The world didn't change - but CNN's fear-mongering role in it on behalf of Israel has been clearly exposed.
All of the President’s NeoCons have made it known since Lieberman’s loss to Lamont, just how important Lieberman has been to their agenda - the Zionist Agenda.
They knew that Lieberman would lose, and Rove planned a full frontal attack for the aftermath – which by necessity always leads with a terror scare. Rove even called Lieberman directly to offer his help.
As part of the game – a CNN talking head asks the question…
"Lamont is the Al Qaeda Candidate???"
KARL ROVE WROTE THAT TALKING POINT.
CNN READ IT ON AIR.
“When did you stop beating your wife?â€
Equally loaded questions.
CNN's behavior is not coincidental.
They're owned by Timer Warner, a company run and owned predominantly by Jews. That's not a racist remark - it is a fact. Just ask Ted Turner his opinion about CNN's propaganda slant toward Israel.
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At approximately 11:48 a.m. August 9th, CNN reported that Ariel Weinmann - a US Sailor - had been arrested for espionage committed on behalf of Russia. CNN intentionally lied. They know precisely that Weinmann had spied for Israel, as does the Jewish Media:
Report: US sailor spied for Israel
David Keyes, THE JERUSALEM POST
Aug. 9, 2006
CNN created a false anonymous source, and claimed that an American Jew was spying for Russia.
THE CNN LIE:
From Barbara Starr
CNN Washington Bureau
Wednesday, August 9, 2006; Posted: 1:57 p.m. EDT (17:57 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A sailor facing espionage and desertion charges has been held at a Norfolk, Virginia, brig since March, the U.S. Navy said Wednesday.
Ariel Weinmann, 21, is suspected of having worked on behalf of Russia, said military sources close to the case.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/09/sailor.charge/index.html
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Barbara Starr was CNN’s correspondent at the Pentagon. The Pentagon is being run in concert with Israel. During the lead up to the Iraqi invasion – Karen Kwiatkowski confirmed that Israeli Generals were free to come and go at will – and NEVER recorded their visits.
Israeli Mole Larry Franklin worked in the Pentagon – inside Rumsfeld’s Office Of Special Plans.
Franklin was arrested for spying in concert with AIPAC – for Israel.
Israel calls the editorial shots at CNN.
This Weinmann spy case is HUGE! As big as the Jonathan Pollard case.
Notice it is NOT IN THE HEADLINES?
Yet another story pertaining to Israeli spying was released into the ether during the fake terror hype.
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The Israeli Connection
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m25108&l=i&size=1&hd=0
On the morning of February 12th, 2003, a small group of FBI eavesdroppers were listening intently for evidence of a treacherous crime. At the very moment that American forces were massing for an invasion of Iraq, there were indications that a rogue group of senior Pentagon officials were already conspiring to push the United States into another war—this time with Iran.
A few miles away, FBI agents watched as Larry Franklin, an Iran expert and career employee of the Defense Intelligence Agency, drove up to the Ritz-Carlton hotel across the Potomac from Washington.
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Judge denies motion to toss pro-Israel spy case
Friday, August 11, 2006; Posted: 10:06 a.m. EDT
The indictment against Steven Rosen of Silver Spring, Maryland, and Keith Weissman of Bethesda, Maryland, alleges that they conspired to obtain classified reports on issues relevant to American policy, including the al-Qaida terror network; the bombing of the Khobar Towers dormitory in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 U.S. Air Force personnel; and U.S. policy in Iran.
Rosen and Weissman, former lobbyists for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, are accused of sharing the information with reporters and foreign diplomats. No trial date has been set.
K H O B A R
T O W E R S ? ? ?
Why was Israel so keen to have Classified information relative to the Khobar Towers incident? Did they want to see if the US Intelligence officials had figured out that Mossad did it?
S O…
Are you a Coincidence Theorist?
Pakistan's Intelligence Service purportedly uncovers a massive terror cell - and the news just happens to hit right on the heels of the biggest AIPAC loss in a decade.
It couldn't very well have been "revealed" by Mossad" - as that would have been too obvious - so they credit Pakistan's ISI for uncovering the purported plot.
Sure...you bet.
9/11
Within 10 minutes of the second twin tower being hit in the World Trade Center... CNN said Osama bin Laden had done it. That was a planned piece of disinformation by the real perpetrators. It created an instant mindset and put public opinion into a trance, which prevented even intelligent people from thinking for themselves.
This was clearly an inside job.
Karl Rove had advance knowledge of EVERY TERROR ALERT since Bush took office in 2000.
Because he creates them.
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January 25th, 2008 at 9:16 pmLobbyists: Sports Tickets and Springsteen—The E-Mail Trail
Newsweek
Oct. 9, 2006 issue - The folks around Karl Rove are on the hot seat again. The White House has launched an internal ethics inquiry into one Rove aide in response to new e-mails showing that Rove's office had far more extensive conduct with convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff than previously acknowledged. The e-mails, obtained by a House committee, show that Rove's executive assistant, Susan Ralston, may have violated a White House ban on accepting gifts worth more than $20 from lobbyists. At the same time, Ralston—who previously worked for Abramoff—was helping the lobbyist and his associates set up meetings with Rove and providing them with inside info about presidential appointments and White House decision making, including at least one matter relating to a business deal in Iraq for an Abramoff client, the e-mails show. Ralston also discussed future business opportunities with Abramoff, such as her plan to help him capitalize on the "rush to get lucrative government contracts" being awarded by the Department of Homeland Security—another possible breach of ethics rules.
The e-mails show Ralston peppering Abramoff with requests for small perks and favors. "Can we get the row A seats for the 12/22 Caps game?" she asked Abramoff in a Dec. 22, 2001, e-mail about an upcoming Washington Capitals hockey game. "Need 4 for O's on 8/23 and 4 for Springsteen if possible," she wrote the lobbyist on July 26, 2002. Ralston's lawyer declined to comment. A former associate said Ralston may argue that though she apparently never paid for any of the tickets, she did not violate the ethics rules because of an exemption for officials who have a "pre-existing" and personal relationship with the lobbyist. "She was not looking at [Abramoff] as a lobbyist," said the former associate, who asked not to be identified because of political sensitivities. "She was looking at him as a friend."
The e-mails show Rove's then chief political deputy, Ken Mehlman, now chairman of the Republican National Committee, had his own repeated contacts with Abramoff—in stark contrast to previous public statements. According to the new records, Abramoff and his associates turned to Mehlman in their bid to obtain $16.3 million in federal funds from the Justice Department to build a jail for the Mississippi Band of Choctaws, an Abramoff client. In one e-mail, Abramoff associate Tony Rudy described to Abramoff a meeting he had with Mehlman about the subject. "Mehlman said he would take care of this," Rudy wrote. "He was a rock star." After Justice later approved funding for the Choctaw jail, another Abramoff associate e-mailed a colleague: "Those guys should get anything they want for the rest of the time they're in office ... Opening Day tickets, Skins v. Giants, oriental massages, hookers, whatever ... " Mehlman denied any wrongdoing. "The job of the political director is to meet with interested parties—in some cases, political supporters—and hear them out," he said Friday. Of the events described in the report, Mehlman said, "It was all stuff that was aboveboard. All stuff that was appropriate." Rove himself apparently knew the rules: when Abramoff offered skybox tickets to an NCAA basketball game, he wrote a check for them.
Still, the game gave Abramoff a chance to discuss other matters with Rove. After being e-mailed by an old friend who was a militant Israeli settler, Abramoff responded: "I was sitting with Karl Rove, Bush's top advisor, at the NCAA basketball game, discussing Israel when [your] email came in. I showed it to him. It seems that the President was very sad to have to come out negatively regarding Israel but that they needed to mollify the Arabs for the upcoming war on Iraq. That did not seem to work anyway. Bush seems to love Sharon and Israel, and thinks Arabfat [sic] is nothing but a liar. I thought I'd pass that on."
—Michael Isikoff and Holly Bailey
URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15081799/site/newsweek/
January 25th, 2008 at 9:17 pmTHIS IS KARL ROVE'S OPINION OF REALITY:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?ex=1151899200&en=079d03a2a9db7c23&ei=5070
It was during a press conference on Sept. 16, 2001, in response to a question about homeland security efforts infringing on civil rights, that Bush first used the telltale word ''crusade'' in public. ''This is a new kind of -- a new kind of evil,'' he said. ''And we understand. And the American people are beginning to understand. This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while.''
In the summer of 2002, after I had written an article in Esquire that the White House didn't like about Bush's former communications director, Karen Hughes, I had a meeting with a senior adviser to Bush. He expressed the White House's displeasure, and then he told me something that at the time I didn't fully comprehend -- but which I now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency.
The aide said that guys like me were ''in what we call the reality-based community,'' which he defined as people who ''believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.'' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ''That's not the way the world really works anymore,'' he continued. ''We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.''
Who besides guys like me are part of the reality-based community? Many of the other elected officials in Washington, it would seem. A group of Democratic and Republican members of Congress were called in to discuss Iraq sometime before the October 2002 vote authorizing Bush to move forward. A Republican senator recently told Time Magazine that the president walked in and said: ''Look, I want your vote. I'm not going to debate it with you.'' When one of the senators began to ask a question, Bush snapped, ''Look, I'm not going to debate it with you.''
January 25th, 2008 at 9:17 pm9/11
9/11
9/11........
Hey Karl...here's one for ya...
Prior to 9/11, those numbers in that sequence signified an emergency number to call for help in the United States.
What was the significance of selecting that date for the attack?
Clearly, it was so that it tied into our prior media conditioning about 911.
You thought of that - didn't you Karl?
You selected the date for what it represents to Americans.
No man in a cave in the desert came up with that.
No one is more clever than you.
You picked the date for the attack, didn't you Karl?
You are sooooooooooo clever.
And now to imply that if only we had allowed the NSA to violate the Constitution prior to 9/11, it might never have happened...well you know that's bullshit, because the NSA WAS performing warrantless wiretaps prior to 9/11 - weren't they, Karl?
You and the boys were relying on Comverse wiretaps to keep track of what the intelligence agencies were up to.
That's how you knew to order the stand-down of the Able Danger Operation.
That's how you knew to order the FBI to stop all work on the Bin Laden family in advance of 9/11.
That's how you managed to run interference for the Mossad, the ISI, Cheney and others in advance of the actual event on 9/11.
Only a few of us actually know and appreciate your particular genius, Karl.
We know how many balls you are capable of juggling at the same time.
We know that you are the master of misdirection and manufactured reality.
We know you are the mastermind of THE 9/11 COVERUP.
We know, Karl.
We know.
We know.
We know.
January 25th, 2008 at 9:18 pmKarl:
Put your hand on the bible.
Now, under oath, do you swear that the NSA, AT&T, Comverse and others were NOT conducting Warrantless Wiretaps in advance of 9/11 during the early months of the Bush Administration, so help you God?
What's that Karl, I can't hear you, could you speak up please, you're mumbling.
You're not willing to swear to it under oath?
You mean the Bush Administration ALREADY WAS engaged in warrantless wiretaps prior to 9/11, and 9/11 happened any way?
Well shit, that changes everything, doesn't it Karl?
Maybe it's the case that 9/11 could never have happened WITHOUT your warrantless wiretaps prior to 9/11.
How else could you orchestrate all of the interference to enable the attacks to be pulled off on the exact same day and at the exact same time as NORAD had been ordered to stand down to conduct drills simulating planes being hijacked and flown into buildings?
We know Karl.
We know what you did.
We know.
We know.
We know.
January 25th, 2008 at 9:18 pmRove ran ALL of the White House Strategy.
Bush did exactly what Rove recommended.
Plame was positively COVERT - AS WAS BREWSTER JENNINGS.
This was a CIA Front that was compromised - not just one person, but the ENTIRE SHOP.
This was NOT all about discrediting Wilson. Rove also knew that there was evidence within Plame’s organization that could put the lie to the WHIG’s faux intelligence claims to lie us into a war.
Not only that, Plame’s group was on to the cabal’s involvement in 9/11 and their plan to plant WMD inside Iraq to justify their pending invasion.
The Bush Doctrine (a Rove invention) calls for “preemptive strikes.†Rove decided that Plame’s organization needed to be taken down in order to implement their plan.
Rove identified that Wilson should be sent to Niger and then used to out Plame to close down the WMD intelligence unit.
Sound far fetched?
More far fetched than lying us into war?
More far fetched than bringing down a skyscraper on mere voice command (like WTC 7)?
More far fetched than the story that a cave dweller destroyed the United States as we knew it?
Rove was the Architect of ALL strategy…including 9/11.
THEY ALL KNEW.
We know Karl.
We know.
We know.
We know.
January 25th, 2008 at 9:18 pmLook George...here's the deal.
The trick is to imply a certain reality, which just happens not to be true, without actually lying.
For example, when reporters ask for proof of a connection between 9/11 and the War in Iraq, remember this phrase:
"From that part of the world"
Use it whenever you need to obfuscate your way out of a tight spot...like this:
""We know that people from that part of the world attacked us on 9/11, and we also know that Al Qaeda is operating in Iraq killing US Troops, and if we back down from this threat now, they'll come hit us here again!"
See how that works, George?
The American people are just as geographically challenged and stupid as you are W, so all you got to do is mention "3,000 people died in 9/11 as a result of a strike that originated from THAT PART OF THE WORLD.
Works every time.
Love, Karl
January 25th, 2008 at 9:20 pmKarl Rove INVENTED the White House Iraq Group (WHIG) for one purpose. TOTAL MESSAGE CONTROL.
Rove is a genius...an evil genius.
He can only be effective when he knows literally everything. He is the REALITY CREATION ARCHITECT.
At any given time he can take a set of actual facts and use each of them to stitch together a totally false reality.
Rove knew that the truth was the enemy of their conspiracy to conquer the Middle East (the PNAC plan). His job, every single day, is to convince you, me and the rest of the world that you didn't just see and hear what you just saw and heard...or if you did, it doesn't mean what your logical mind is attempting to tell you - because "we're in a post-9/11 world now" and black is white.
Karl Rove is the single most destructive force in the US Government...the enabler of the entire evil scheme...THE ARCHITECT.
The scheme includes 9/11 as the essential pretext. "9/11" ... how clever, Karl! Only someone with American sensibilities would select the number we have all memorized to call in the event of life threatening emergency as the date for this evil....
KARL ROVE.
The war plan to invade Iraq was written BEFORE 9/11. The Secret Energy Task Force meetings that Cheney had with Ken Lay and the other OIL HOGS during which they all decided how to divide up the oil fields of the Middle East...all of that was BEFORE 9/11.
Now you see why Cheney insisted the substance of those talks remain SECRET.
All of their schemes and conspiracies REQUIRED 9/11 as the essential trigger.
Cheney outsourced the implementation of the FALSE FLAG OPERATION to Mossad...the FALSE FLAG experts. This explains why over 200 Mossad agents were operating in the United States prior to 9/11. This explains why five of them were arrested, having been observed filming the planes hitting the towers and their subsequent collapse - celebrating our worst nightmare.
9/11 was not a bad day for those involved in the Conspiracy. It was their shining moment...their PRETEXT.
One of them washed out...couldn't cope with the guilt. Ari Fleisher had to be replaced, and disappeared. Not dead, but out of sight.
The outing of Plame was designed to destroy the best WMD intelligence the US had at its disposal regarding Iraq. Plame knew for a FACT that Iraq had no WMD. It was HER JOB to know. Therefore Rove perceived Plame (the truth) as his WORST ENEMY, and conceived of a plan to silence her. Rove is the individual who insisted that Wilson be sent to Niger.
GUARANTEED.
This was the only way to launch a smear program which appeared to be aimed at Wilson, but was intended solely to shut down the entire Brewster Jennings operation and bury their WMD evidence.
THAT IS ALL ROVE.
He invented WHIG:
The group's members included Rove, Bush advisor Karen Hughes, Senior Advisor to the Vice President Mary Matalin, Deputy Director of Communications James Wilkinson, Assistant to the President and Legislative Liaison Nicholas Calio, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley and I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby.
Every single one of these individuals is a co-conspirator in a concerted effort to defraud America into committing its troops and its treasure to invade a foreign country to the sole benefit of BIG OIL AND ISRAEL.
The pending invasion of Iran is the next phase of the very same conspiracy. Karen Kwiatkowski let us know that Larry Franklin had set up an IRAN desk in the midst of the Pentagon's IRAQ planners. Larry Franklin has pled guilty for passing Top Secret Iranian Intelligence to AIPAC (Israel). Israeli Generals were free to come and go from the Cheney/Rumsfeld Office Of Middle East Invasion whenever they pleased, without need to sign the guest register.
IT'S ALL THE SAME CONSPIRACY.
9/11 - Afghanistan - Iraq - Iran - Syria.
READ THE PNAC.
A "New Pearl Harbor" was a REQUIREMENT for its implementation.
Rove is running the entire PsyOps Machine to enable it.
Hang them for TREASON.
http://dailydocket.blogspot.com/2006/01/propaganda.html
But whereas Hitler was a true master of propaganda, and his minister a far less talented functionary, today the situation is reversed: our propaganda minister is the master, and our leader his functionary. Karl Rove is so confident of his strategy that he now announces it to the public! In January of this year,
Rove noted that we face "a ruthless enemy" and "need a commander in chief and a Congress who understand the nature of the threat and the gravity of the moment America finds itself in."
Here's more:
"[T]he people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
-- Karl Rove (oops!) Hermann Goering
January 25th, 2008 at 9:20 pm"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, THE TRUTH IS THE GREATEST ENEMY OF THE STATE."
-- Joseph Goebbels, German Minister of Propaganda, 1933-1945
By: okiemon on September 27, 2006 at 10:24am
"As people do better, they start voting like Republicans - unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing."
Karl Rove.
"See in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."
GEORGE w. BUSH
Here's a great comparison of Goebbels to Bush:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2005/260505newbushism.htm
January 25th, 2008 at 9:21 pmRove accused Chris Wallace of being an “Agent Of Congressâ€
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Rove_calls_Fox_host_agent_of_0819.html
One thing you can always take to the bank where Rove is concerned. He is ALWAYS guilty of that which he accuses others.
Rove is an agent of influence, to be sure.
Look who has won and who has lost as a result of Rove's efforts.
Iraq is being depopulated and the oil pipeline to Israel is being built.
Iran will be attacked next, at Israel's insistence.
Poppy Bush's Opium crops in Afghanistan are producing record profits.
Weapons systems are being degraded, requiring replacement - record profits for the Defense Industry.
Oil is stair stepping its way to record highs, and will continue to do so.
The banking industry pushed through bankruptcy reform, just as the Fed had brought the cost of lending as close to zero as possible, while Greenspan insisted that everyone with a pulse buy a house they could not afford using adjustable rate credit, then borrow against it to inflate the economy, artificially.
Use of illegal labor in the US is at record highs - driving corporate profits at record highs and wages down.
The ranks of the uninsured in the US is at record highs, as are Prescription Drug prices.
The AGENT is Rove.
January 25th, 2008 at 9:21 pmKarl Rove has developed a new damage control strategy designed to ensure that no further evidence of child molestation by GOP candidates will be unearthed between now and election day.
The program, which includes the scrubbing of all GOP computer hard drives, with particular emphasis on deletion of any and all photographs including children, has been entitled:
"No Child's Behind Left"
January 25th, 2008 at 9:22 pmSo, Plunger, how have you been, lately?
January 25th, 2008 at 9:48 pmbut plunger... i thought poppy bush hated rove...
i thought poppy was some sort of head honcho here...
what's with that?
January 25th, 2008 at 9:54 pmanything?
So, Plunger, how have you been, lately?
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — January 25, 2008 @ 9:48 pm
Well, at least it's Friday night and there is plenty to do elsewhere. I'll just leave TP to the spambot.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:06 pmIn defense of Rove--although he may not be suitable for a commencement, he'd make a dandy pinata at a birthday party.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:09 pmThe students should get ARN GUNUTTES to give them tips on how to speak directly to Karl.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:07 pmSo, Plunger, how have you been, lately?
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — January 25, 2008 @ 9:48 pm
Again, plunger, Thank you very much for your astute observations and information.
Even Left Gatekeepers are starting to take notice.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:18 pmWe can’t allow freedom of speech on college campus’, now can we?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — January 25, 2008 @ 11:20 pm
So, you don't want people to protest, i.e. express their right to free speech? How telling and yet expected of the reich-wing.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:25 pmWe can’t allow freedom of speech on college campus’, now can we?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — January 25, 2008 @ 11:20 pm
Whatever you call it, Rove sure ain't speaking for free.
The students are certainly practicing their freedom of speech. I'm glad you approve.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:36 pmOtto:
January 26th, 2008 at 12:11 amif Karl Rove offered to come to campus, zit down with students and answer any and all questions, I would find no objection to it--and neither, I suspect would the protesting students.
But the Bushivikii never do that. closed venues guarded by the Cheka, who go through the parking lots looking for bumper stickers. Mr. Cheney, who was on your Energy Task Force?
Rush Limbaugh never gets on a panel withe progressive; Bill O'Reily goes apoplectic when anyone contradicts him.
Free speech is important so that dialog can happen, arguments made.
Conservatives used to relish this. But Karl Rove is not going to take questions. He's not going to meet these students on an equal level--because Bushites don't do that.
Standing in a privileged spot and holding forth while the audience holds their peace--that's free speech for them.
Give people that privilege and they'll abuse it. John Gibson will mock a dead man. Rush Limbaugh will ignorantly mock a man struggling with a fatal disease. Don Imus (no conservative) will slander young athletes.
Freedom OF speech is not freedom FROM speech,, otto. But that's what the Bush administration wants all the time.
We can’t allow freedom of speech on college campus’, now can we?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — January 25, 2008 @ 11:20 pm
In this case it is "Freedom of Listening". I have heard enough of these wannabe Fascists......So I say, "Shut The FSCK Up" to Rove.
January 26th, 2008 at 12:32 amHey, O.Bigfoot. It is Freedom of Speech happening here. The students are expressing a desire NOT to sit through ole Rove's monumental piles of dog$#!+.....
Oh, I see. You ment Rove's right to force bullcrap down the student's throats, under the guise of 'Freedom of Speech'. Their right not to be forcefed the horse manure is irrelavant in your eyes. They should be good corporate drones while Rove serves up a stack of excrement pies for their consumption.
They, much like me, have had enough dung for their young lives. Good for them to tell Rove to take his offal and shove it.
January 26th, 2008 at 1:06 amROVE SHOULDN'T BE GIVING SPEACHES. HE SHOULD BE BEHIND BARRS!!!!
January 26th, 2008 at 1:23 amHow is this a freedom of speech issue? He has every right to speak his mind, but the students certainly don't have to listen to his rubbish.
Specially since Rove was able to spew his lies, distortions, and smears, unchallenged, for years from his position of power as Bush's brain.
What has he got to say that we haven't heard before? And if new, we all know it's not going to be true, anyway.
January 26th, 2008 at 1:30 amPlunger, get your own blog...please!
January 26th, 2008 at 1:40 amAnd I was under the distinct impression that the commencement speaker was supposed to be some sort of role model for the graduating students and offer some words of wisdom.
What wisdom could this man possible bestow on this young students?
Share his insights on smearing political opponents? Give tips on working around the law, and skirt responsibility for one's actions?
Role model indeed....
January 26th, 2008 at 1:42 amWhere I come from, karl would be hoping no-one else is waiting in line to bend his fu{king weakling a@s over the nearest stump.
I personally, would treasure the opportunity to feed him to the nearest slaughter-house.
January 26th, 2008 at 2:11 amTHE MITT ROMNEY WHISPERED VOICE DURING THE MSNBC DEBATE:
That voice heard whispering is none other than Mitt's. Now the MSM needs to admit for a FACT that all of the candidates are provided with the questions IN ADVANCE.
Clearly he was provided the questions in advance, and this was his own prepared reminder - played back to him when he wanted to hear it.
Mitt likely had a wireless ear piece and a transmitting device in his hand that he alone could activate - which contained prerecorded brief prompts to get him heading in the right direction with his answers. His own wireless microphone channel (on the podium) picked up the signal that was transmitted from his recorded answer to his ear piece as a digital audio signal and it played through the house speakers and on television.
That whispered voice IS Mitt Romney.
January 26th, 2008 at 5:35 amPaul makes a fool of McCain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu-tg1kQ8dk&eurl=http://race42008.com/
January 26th, 2008 at 7:04 am"The architect" should have his fat butt in an orange jumpsuit, chain-ganging with other malcontents, cleaning garbage on the side of the highway.
However, the likes of Rove, Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, Wofowitz, etc. feel that they are untouchable. They're the kind of men who, as Jim Garrison put it in JFK, "feel they can just walk between the raindrops."
January 26th, 2008 at 8:01 amThe bullshitter cometh. Speak free Rove. Speak and use the opportunity to further your neocon agenda; torture, outing CIA undercovers, destroying emails, and manipulating elections for Herr Bush. I'm sure there is more. Repubs and Demos should equally disdain the way of politics you proclaim because you have set us upon the path to our destruction. Speak free and go quickly into the night.
January 26th, 2008 at 8:04 amHere's hoping a that, when Rove begins his speech, a student suddenly slings a load of horse manure all over him! Or red paint will do. Or a good custard pie to the face. If they can do it to Bill Gates, they can do it to Karl Rove!
January 26th, 2008 at 8:06 amYay! Free speech for all - except for the Republicans or former members of Bush administration. Heckle and silence them instead.
Right, moonbats?
Comment by Frank M — January 26, 2008 @ 6:17 am
Actually, jailing and hanging them are the appropriate actions to take with traitors, not paying them to continue their lies and antiAmerican propaganda. The students know this; only the brainwashed, equally treasonous "base" doesn't.
January 26th, 2008 at 8:37 amKids see him for what he is. And they have the smarts to know this is not anyone to look up to.
January 26th, 2008 at 8:39 amSchool administrators should take notice and learn something from their students.
Leave MC Turdblossom alone!
-Wingnut Whiner Guild
January 26th, 2008 at 8:40 amThe editorial piece written by students (12th grade, or perhaps underclassmen) for "The News" from Choate Rosemary Hall was extremely well written. The writer while clearly opposing Rove to speak at their commencement, maintained civility while succinctly driving home all the key points. Well done.
January 26th, 2008 at 8:40 amCongrats to The Wild Boars. Hope your Headmaster listens and drops Rove.
TP:
How about some coverage of the Romney Whisper story? It's all over the web!
January 26th, 2008 at 9:10 amNice upstanding guy - what a wonderful example to follow!
/sarcasm
January 26th, 2008 at 9:12 am
Yippee Ki Yay! Bert.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:25 amYou're sort of dreadfully predictable
How about letting both sides speak? Let Rove speak. Then let the protesters give their rebuttal to anyone who wants to stay and listen Then both sides’ freedom of expression will be honored.
Comment by good_golly
gg still wants to run things........her way or the highway....you're either with us or you're against us........love it or leave it....
I say where the hell are the damned students........the only thing that makes any sense is that the repubs have driven all of the poorer and middle class students out of the universitites........only ones left are the rove jrs who don't have any inclination to protest anything.
This is such an isolated incident as to not exist. Students should be shutting down the universities across the nation.....why are they not?
Americans should be shutting down the cities until criminals are jailed and this war is ended....why are they not?
January 26th, 2008 at 10:28 amI see the McCarthy troll Bert is here.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:31 amOh, Bertie, bertie, bertie... "read" the article.
All it says is that some of the students plan on walking out.
The pudgy little sleeze bag can talk to anyone who stays, if anyone does.
Yer gittin' yer panties in a knot over nothin', bertie, and so early in the day.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:32 am*bleep* off, Bert.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:34 amGood_Golly, you miss something here. Rove isn't speaking for free, I assume. The University is paying for him. That means, the students are paying for him.
Why should I pay to listen to the ramblings of a man whose ideology I totally despise? Hmm? That would be asking you to shell out some of your hard earned money to listen to the likes of Clinton (either one) rambling. I know what you're going to say: You'll do so out of 'freedom of speech', until the moment that you're actually forced to do so, then you'll rant and rave about it, and refuse to acknowledge your hypocrisy.
Same to you, 'bert'. You talk the big talk, but we both know you'll scream until you're blue in the face if the roles are reversed. Hypocrite.
Rove is free to go buy air-time and air his bullshit. I'm free not to listen to it. Rove is free to go downtown and stand in the little amphitheater and lecture to his heart's content. I'll avoid downtown that day. However, on a day that's supposed to be about me and my fellow classmates accomplishments, funded from our collective pocketbooks, I damn sure will not listen to the likes of Rove, and I'll petition my Uni NOT to have that windbag, and instead hire someone who is less of a controversial figure. Honestly, I'd rather not see any politician addressing our graduating class, and it's my right to express that desire.
Got a problem with it? Then both good_golly and bert_convy can blow it out their asses.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:37 am"can blow it out their asses"?
Geez, Jeremy, yer soundin' more 'n more like the rest of us all the time...
January 26th, 2008 at 10:40 amrepublicans have no interest in free speech, only paid lies. the students should chase Rove from the campus, with pitchforks and torches. he's already damaged the country almost beyond repair; traitors don't deserve the same rights as patriots, and Rove is a traitor.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:44 amwell, i'm dissappointed, plunger...
that was a serious question i asked @ 9:54 pm...
about "the whisper" - i wonder if it didn't come from another
candidate, thinking out loud...
about the rove - really really bad idea as a commencement speaker...
January 26th, 2008 at 10:52 amunless it is a school for rove-bots... which it probably is...
but at least SOME of the students are aware and on the right path...
er, correct path... whatever...
85 gg has weighed in on this and so it is settled......
who the hell do you think you are gg.
you don't run things here.....you don't get to decide......blow it out your ass
I'm free to know what you are and what you are doing and it is an overall negative for everyone you come into contact with.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:06 amThere are no republican patriots, bert. republicans are antiAmerican in the extreme, and will break any law to steal your money. You can pretend that Rove didn't steal votes, forge results, and lie all the time he was employed by Bushco, and you can pretend he didn't run away when the going got tough, but that's all you can do, pretend.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:07 amGAD… The land of fruits and nuts… Leftylooneyville.
Comment by BERT CONVY
here's your sign progressives........does this sound like someone who wants to discuss our differences........like an adult?
January 26th, 2008 at 11:08 amHe is free to speak. You are free to choose not to listen. You are not free, however to disrupt his freedom of speech.
Comment by good_golly — January 26, 2008 @ 11:00 am
You are not only free to disrupt his lies, you have a duty to disrupt his lies. He is a traitor, and doesn't have a right to continue to destroy America.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:09 amRove should be rendered to Egypt for a little Bushian waterboarding. Would serve him perfectly right. he certainly shouldn't be free to spread his poison.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:11 amike I say … Yippie ki yay mooonbat censor monkeys.
*bert
*
Comment by BERT CONVY — January 26, 2008 @ 11:12 am
that's right, censor those who are traitors. it's the law, bert, which you have no use for. There's nobody in Bush's administration that shouldn't be in prison forever, to protect the USA.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:15 amRove shouldn't have to be censored; he should be in solitary confinement.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:16 amThanks for 9/11 and the unsolved anthrax attacks, gg. you guys are so incompetent at everything but stealing elections, you're a joke. A sad, sick, antiAmerican joke.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:19 amHey Bert
January 26th, 2008 at 11:21 amYou don't have to close with Bert because we see it at the bottom anyway. Bert is sort of a weird name. Wanna explain it's meaning to you? What's up with the Yippie Ki yay deal? It seems sophmoric at best and that moonbat stuff is sort of sorry assed as well but whatever
Comment by BERT CONVY — January 26, 2008 @ 11:04 am
I've seen infantile trolls before but this "Bert Convy" person certainly takes the first prize.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:24 amComment by BERT CONVY — January 26, 2008 @ 11:12 am
hi bc, saw this pic (and article) about you on line:
http://www.keloland.com/NewsDetail6162.cfm?Id=0,57158
this is you right?
dude, no offense but you should think about losing some weight.
eh?
January 26th, 2008 at 11:34 ambert's a memeber of the "peanut gallery"...
bottom right...
The REAL bert convy had much more class, that's for sure...
January 26th, 2008 at 11:38 amit's a shame to make a mockery out of a dead man...
Seems like gg and bert didn't catch the point.
Rove has a right to do whatever he wants within the scope of the law, which includes his speaking out.
Good Golly: do I not have the right to refuse to _pay_ him for speaking out?
January 26th, 2008 at 11:52 amComment by katy — January 26, 2008 @ 11:38 am
bc's a conservative, mocking the dead is part of his "character".
here's another recent example:
http://gawker.com/348537/john-gibson-sews-up-heath-ledger-memorial-bad-taste-award
there will be more to come. death and misery is so funny to a conservative. that's why "the half hour news hour" is such a success.
wait, it wasn't a success, was it?
January 26th, 2008 at 11:55 amjoe - now it makes sense - bc is gibson...
January 26th, 2008 at 11:59 amewww...
Just read the student editorial against Rove speaking at their school's graduation -- outstanding insight and honesty on the part of the high-school journalists.
Wonder what possible inspiration this man could offer those students -- instead, if he must attend, he should do the listening while they do the speaking.
No wonder he doesn't believe in an afterlife -- he knows where he'd be spending it.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:59 amI waited the 10m for a response...can't wait any more.
If GG says anything else but yes, he's being disingenuous. Of course I have a right to not give my hard earned dollars to this person. Since the University is using money derived in part from my tuition, I have a right to say 'no, you may not spend it on that.' That's the whole purpose of the SGA, which I suspect was not consulted in this, and for campus-wide votes, for which there's more than enough time to set one up in this instance.
I am not advocating the removal of the right of Rove to speak in any circumstance. I'm standing behind the student's rights to have a say in their graduation requirement. Rove is free to fly there and go to their quad and stand on one of the benches there (or whatever they have that passes for a quad) and deliver his speech to anyone who wishes to listen during the graduation. But if the students do not wish to pay to listen to it, their rights should be respected as well.
Of course, good_golly and bert aren't here to debate, just to stir shit, hence why they stand so firmly for the excrement that Rove wishes to shove down these student's throats in exchange for their hard earned dollars...
January 26th, 2008 at 12:07 pmOf course, good_golly and bert aren’t here to debate, just to stir shit, hence why they stand so firmly for the excrement that Rove wishes to shove down these student’s throats in exchange for their hard earned dollars…
Comment by Jeremy in Denver
gg and bert left at 85 & 92.....you guys are carrying their water for them......
January 26th, 2008 at 1:10 pmgg and bert left at 85 & 92…..you guys are carrying their water for them……
Comment by Fred — January 26, 2008 @ 1:10 pm
Speaks the Hall Monitor. grow up, fred, you're embarrassing.
January 26th, 2008 at 1:28 pmRove needs to be speaking from a "free speech zone" otherwise known as solitary confinement.
January 26th, 2008 at 1:31 pmgg and bert left at 85 & 92…..you guys are carrying their water for them……
Comment by Fred — January 26, 2008 @ 1:10 pm
Speaks the Hall Monitor. grow up, fred, you’re embarrassing.
Comment by Lefty Patriot
many who visit here disagree.
January 26th, 2008 at 1:34 pmROVE IS A COX$UKER, TREASONOUS, TRAITOR. Anybody who supports paying this man? to speak is a traitor. Let him babble on from the jail cell where he belongs.
January 26th, 2008 at 1:37 pmComment by Lefty Patriot
many who visit here disagree.
Comment by Fred — January 26, 2008 @ 1:34 pm
wrong. a few at best.
January 26th, 2008 at 1:46 pmIt's quite telling so many reich-wingers object to any sort of protest. Stalin would be proud of you.
January 26th, 2008 at 1:49 pmMillions of people worldwide would pay good money to try and dump Rove into a dunk tank filled with cow $hit and razor blades. Only a few would actually pay to listen to the $hit and razor blades that spew from its mouth.
January 26th, 2008 at 1:54 pmAnd those that would pay would only pay with somebody else's money. GOPigs.
January 26th, 2008 at 1:55 pm81. He is free to speak. You are free to choose not to listen. You are not free, however to disrupt his freedom of speech.
Comment by good_golly — January 26, 2008 @ 11:00 am
Oh lordy, it's Miss Manners.
We not only have the freedom to disrupt his speech, it's our duty to do so. It's called dissent. Look it up.
January 26th, 2008 at 2:27 pmIf he's getting paid, it isn't free speech. The students have every right to protest the use of their money being used to bring a pig like rove onto their campus.
As an earlier poster said, he's free all he wants to come on campus and talk in the quad.
To invite him to speak at commencement is an insult to the intelligence of the student body.
January 26th, 2008 at 2:52 pmThe reality, that reich-wingers refuse to live in, is that this doesn't fall under the first amendment what-so-ever.
January 26th, 2008 at 4:08 pmThey should bring Rove's mentor, Lee Atwater.
January 27th, 2008 at 1:37 pm