Obama wins South Carolina.
By on Jan 26th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Obama wins South Carolina.
Based on exit polls, Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) is projected to win the South Carolina Democratic primary “by a substantial margin.”
UPDATE: Fox News reports that “more Democrats voted today than Republicans voted last Saturday.” “Party officials predicted a record-setting turnout,” adds the New York Times.
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Is Hillary gonna cry again?
January 26th, 2008 at 7:30 pmExit polls are usually pretty sound, but I’d like to see the actual tallies to see if Edwards can make a second place finish…MSNBC has them coming in now…
January 26th, 2008 at 7:30 pmObama’s SC victory is a rebuke of the Clinton Team’s “Scorched Earth” tactics. See Bob Herbert’s NYT column today. Congrats to Obama.
January 26th, 2008 at 7:33 pmAnd the polls have only been closed for 34 minutes.
January 26th, 2008 at 7:34 pmComment by RUCerious — January 26, 2008 @ 7:30 pm
Early returns are showing a 6-3-1 split among Obama, Clinton and Edwards, respectively. Not as good a showing as he and his supporters would have liked. But I am sure he’ll hang on through Super Duper Tuesday and beyond to collect delegates and Convention Influence.
January 26th, 2008 at 7:34 pmI can dig it.
January 26th, 2008 at 7:36 pmSomehow all this Hillary hate goes right over my head.
I keep hearing about these people who the Clintons have supported over the years coming back to turn on them.
I call it the Stepenopolous Theory.
We have far less to judge Obama on. Why is that?
January 26th, 2008 at 7:36 pmRUCerious,
Update on polling results slilmming down to a 50-35-15 split. Edwards is looking to get the magic 15% that means something important.
January 26th, 2008 at 7:40 pmSurprise?
January 26th, 2008 at 7:51 pmGood for Senator Obama and good for America. Such a decisive victory might help to end the negative campaigning recently seen in South Carolina by the Clinton Camp.
I am sick of Karl Rove style campaigns. Sure, they may work; but at what cost? Thanks to the good folks in South Carolina for sending the message.
Good luck Senator Obama. You deserved every vote you received. You will be recieving my vote in February in the Maine Democratic caucus.
January 26th, 2008 at 7:53 pmAlthough only a fraction of the precincts have reported, what I find fascinating at this point is the gender split of Democratic voters. At least as I am looking at this, at 4:55 PST, 61% of the primary voters are women (as opposed to a virtually 50/50 Republican split). The media are already “explaining” the large Black turnout giving the state to Obama, but what about the women’s vote?
January 26th, 2008 at 7:57 pmWith 14% of the precincts in, Edwards has 19%.
Looks like another 3rd, hopefully he can tighten it up a little more as the night goes on…
January 26th, 2008 at 8:05 pmHill’reh will win on Super Tuesday, and that will be the end of the Obama campaign. Voter turnout is merely the desperate efforts of both the Clinton and Obama campaigns to stack the deck, ending up with the same result if neither had pushed voter turnout drives.
Believe me, in the general election, when voters see Hill’reh’s name on the ballot, they will be over-exposed to Bill, and pull the lever for the Republican.
Why didn’t you make certain you had New Hampshire in the bag for Obama? Hill’reh was crying for votes, and a loss would have killed her right there and then, but you took your eye off the ball, and she stole a win, which gave her the next win in Nevada. In spite of losing South Carolina, Hill’reh will still win Super Tuesday, all because you let her win in New Hampshire.
Shame on you.
January 26th, 2008 at 8:45 pmBill Clinton is everywhere,making speeches,he is daily on tv shows acting as if he is running for a 3rd term.
That’s not good…
He is attacking Obama in a very negative way,so is Hillary.
That might backfire..
Clinton is using his position as ex-president, claiming that Obama does not have the experience to do the job…
What experience Clinton himself had when he ran first time in 1992? What experience Bush had when he ran for the first time in 2000..?
It looks like none of the Democrats’ candidates will have enough delegates to win it all,by the end of this run for primaries and caucuses.
January 26th, 2008 at 9:03 pmNegotiations and some diplomacy might be needed at the Convention to make the Democrats ticket,and Obama/Edwards ticket might be the only way left to save the Democrats from losing.
Comment by Liberals Are Filled With Hate
January 26th, 2008 at 9:05 pmDuh…’Is this a troll?
#7: Somehow all this Hillary hate goes right over my head.
I generally agree. I’m not a Hillary Clinton supporter, and I’m glad Obama won in South Carolina. But it’s hard for me to relate to all the vitriol that’s directed at Hillary, both by the right and the left (more of it comes from the right, obviously). On policy, I don’t see Cliton and Obama as being that different–for me it’s an issue of electability, and I worry that a Clinton vs. McCain matchup favors McCain because it will mobilize the GOP base against Hillary.
January 26th, 2008 at 9:06 pm#18: He/she might be a “troll” in that he/she is obviously a conservative. But I don’t disagree with any of it. The Republican candidates are too weak to get the Republican base to the polls in November. The only thing that may motivate them to vote will be their hatred of Hillary Clinton. If that’s so, Hillary will need to have a massive GOTV initiative if she’s to have any chance of winning. The same would be less true for Obama, I believe.
January 26th, 2008 at 9:09 pma Clinton vs. McCain matchup favors McCain because it will mobilize the GOP base against Hillary.
Comment by Jim — January 26, 2008 @ 9:06 pm
and THAT, i think, is the main problem that the left has with hillary…
January 26th, 2008 at 9:17 pmany real “vitriol” directed at her is coming from the right…
and THAT, i think, is the main problem that the left has with hillary…
any real “vitriol†directed at her is coming from the right…
Comment by katy — January 26, 2008 @ 9:17 pm
Which is vastly amusing in its way because the Right thinks that Hillary and Bill are “leftists”. It’s impossible for them ever to understand that Hillary is as far right as the Democratic party can go, and far more to t he right than many of us can stomach.
January 26th, 2008 at 9:28 pm41 Bush
42 Clinton
43 Bush
44 Clinton ?
No thank you!
January 26th, 2008 at 9:37 pmObama’s victory speech was awesome — struck just the right tone after an ugly week in SC. On to bigger and better for Obama on 2/5.
January 26th, 2008 at 9:51 pm#23 Skippy,
After tonights early results , Television coverage of speakers:
First: Bill Clinton.
Second: Obama
Third : Edwards
Fourth : Hillary Clinton
The Clintons are taking over the airwaves. I agree with Obama that it is tough to fight the establishment. It is difficult also for Edwards to fight the party machine which seems to be backing the Clintons.
January 26th, 2008 at 9:57 pm#21: and THAT, i think, is the main problem that the left has with hillary…any real “vitriol†directed at her is coming from the right.
I think you’re right, Katy. Some on the left–including myself–are unhappy with Hillary Clinton for her vote(s) on the war and other issues. But I wouldn’t describe my displeasure with Hillary as “vitriol” or “hatred”–nothing on par with what the right feels toward her. I just don’t think she’s the best Democratic candidate. But I’ll certainly support her if she’s the nominee.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:06 pma Clinton vs. McCain matchup favors McCain because it will mobilize the GOP base against Hillary.
Comment by Jim — January 26, 2008 @ 9:06 pm
and THAT, i think, is the main problem that the left has with hillary…
any real “vitriol†directed at her is coming from the right…
Comment by katy — January 26, 2008 @ 9:17 pm
I am with gummitch in his #22 here. For many of us Progressives who have followed Hillary (and Bill in the 90s) the problem is with her ideology, not her electability. Even with the right’s fear and anger of Hillary I believe she will be elected if she is the candidate. The people are sick to death of thr rethug philosophy (although they might not put it that way. They will vote Democratic regardless who runs. And that includes McBush.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:07 pmBy the way, I apologize for my very unfortunate typo in #19. Oops. Jeez.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:08 pm#27: For many of us Progressives who have followed Hillary (and Bill in the 90s) the problem is with her ideology, not her electability.
I have concerns both about about Hillary’s ideology and her electability. But honestly, is her ideology really all that different from Obama’s? I say that as an Obama supporter. It seems to me that the only major issue on which the two candidates seem significantly different is Iraq. What do you think?
January 26th, 2008 at 10:12 pm1) Once again, a record turnout for the Democrats–far bigger than the Repubs, and in SC!
2) Hooray for Obama!
3) Barack O wins the primary–but Johnny E comes out against telecom immunity.
4) Sorry, skip, it’s
January 26th, 2008 at 10:14 pm41 Bush
42 Clinton
43 Cheney
44 Clinton.
500,000 SOUTH CAROLINIAN DEMOCRATS SAID NO TO REPUGLIKKKANS TONIGHT
WHAT A VICTORY!!
BUSH IS LOADING HIS DIAPERS RIGHT NOW
January 26th, 2008 at 10:19 pmWe might finally be looking at a tidal wave of voter resentment come November.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:21 pmIt was a telling moment on MSNBC the other night when Russert and company showed polls with McCain beating Hillary, tied with Obama and completely left out Edwards. You know, the only one who consistently beats McCain…
January 26th, 2008 at 10:33 pmComment by The Republic of Stupidity — January 26, 2008 @ 10:21 pm
We might finally be looking at a tidal wave of voter resentment come November.
Everything points that way! All the indications are that 2008 will be bigger than 1994! “All the planets are aligned!” Horrible 7 years, rethugs “retiring” (rather than run for reelection) at a record pace like rats leaving the sinking ship, unbelievable corruption on the rethug side, the Iraq debacle, lies, distortions… the list goes on and on. And it continues on today as the new AJ shows his stripes regarding torture!
January 26th, 2008 at 10:45 pm“ThinkClintonBias”??
You can read, can’t you?
If you bothered to, you’d know how many folks here don’t like Hillary Clinton.
Perhaps you need to start your own blog, but, alas, you’d probably be very, very lonely.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:55 pm#29 Jim:
…It seems to me that the only major issue on which the two candidates seem significantly different is Iraq ]
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January 26th, 2008 at 11:00 pmJim, that is an important issue. It is important because Hillary still reufusing to acknowledge that the vote she gave in 2002 was a war vote. She danced around the issue for sometime now. She, Lieberman and war supporters backed the president with no hestiation…
She is claiming now that she did not know what she was doing then, blaimg the whole thing on not enough intelligence..but she claims now she is the only one who will end this war in Iraq…
When the vote came against Iran in September she voted for Lieberman/Kyle Resolution.
She made statements on major television networks that she will keep forces in Iraq for years to come,after 2012.
This is an important issue,either she is going to end this war in Iraq as she claims or she is ready to fuel another conflict in the area…
Nothing works the trolls up like Hillary does. They’re all showing up on this thread, worked up into a lather about the Clintons.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:01 pmComment by Kilo — January 26, 2008 @ 10:46 pm
If she does, you sure as shit won’t hear about it here on ThinkClintonBias.
Somehow this has made it to rest of the media and blogosphere, but not here.
You know kilo, you come trotting over here from LG Footfungus with your preformed half baked ideas trying to stir up trouble. Progressives are NOT for Hillary! Got that?? NOT! Go to your reichwing MSM folks like Murdock and GE who are pushing Hillary on the Dem side. Don’t come here and feed us your uninformed pablum.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:11 pmWe are cheering a man who voted PRESENT over a 100 times.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:25 pmWe are cheering a man because he has a “great personality” and we would like to have a beer with.
We are cheering a man who the media wants us to cheer now so they can rip him to shreds when he gets the nomination.
No vitriol. Just common sense here. Hillary is way smart. It was obvious there were no WMDs in Iraq. I knew. You knew. We all knew. She knew.
First our elections were rigged. Then our Democrats sold us down the river with the war and the Patriot Act. It’s no wonder Obama’s been doing so well. He may have done the impossible and rekindled that little spark inside us called HOPE.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:26 pmHillary said that the first thing she will do if she is elected President is eliminate all the tax cuts that George Bush gave to the wealthiest 1% of Americans. No wonder why Republicans and the “Corporate Media” have so much hatred for Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Sigh……. America is doomed.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:33 pmComment by Jack Jett @ 11:25 pm:
We are cheering a man who voted PRESENT over a 100 times.
obama, right? i guess he had to play it safe to get this far… too bad…
We are cheering a man because he has a “great personality†and we would like to have a beer with.
confusing dubya here? have a beer with who?
We are cheering a man who the media wants us to cheer now so they can rip him to shreds when he gets the nomination.
and that would be hillary… not?
you’re all over the place, jack…
but i get your drift…
…
time to unfold and veg out…
g’nite all…
congratulations to my senator, from the confused state of illinois…
January 26th, 2008 at 11:39 pm(thank gawd for chicago … … at times…)
1) Obama supported Bush’s war.
2) Obama said that Ronald Reagan is the greatest President who ever lived.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/03/22/obama_defends_votes_in_favor_of_iraq_funding/
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/18/politics/main3730430.shtml?source=RSSattr=Politics_3730430
January 26th, 2008 at 11:41 pmGreat News! It’s time voters turned on the Hillary Hate machine. Why can’t she run on her record rather than attack Obama. If her 35 years are so impressive, she could run on it. She has nothing to say, so he attacks, attacks, attacks. Hillary Clinton is a partisan democrat who will only continue the great divide that Bush created. Is that what we want? Do you want a united America? Or are you satified with being a divided nation during a time of war? Senator Obama is preaching unity, brotherhood, and one America. Senator Clinton, and Bill Clinton can give you a millions reason why not to vote for Obama, but not one to vote for her. She is weak, lies, is sneaky, and I wouldn’t vote for her if my lift depended on it. I voted for Bill twice, but he’s lost my support forever because of his attacks on Obama. I’d rather hold my nose and vote for a Republican over Clinton.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:47 pmI’d rather hold my nose and vote for a Republican over Clinton.
Comment by The Shadow — January 26, 2008 @ 11:47 pm
Is that you, Rush Limbaugh?
January 26th, 2008 at 11:50 pmComment by delafield — January 26, 2008 @ 11:41 pm
Bull. Sh!t.
Obama credited Reagan with political savvy. And Clinton? He threw Reagan a virtual hummer in 1991. Pack your lies up and take them somewhere else.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:51 pmIs that you, Rush Limbaugh?
Comment by delafield — January 26, 2008 @ 11:50 pm
Only if he weights 450 lbs.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:59 pmI’d rather hold my nose and vote for a Republican over Clinton.
McCain is going to win the GOP primary. There won’t be a Republican running in November.
January 27th, 2008 at 12:05 amMcCain is going to win the GOP primary. There won’t be a Republican running in November.
Comment by muckdog — January 27, 2008 @ 12:05 am
You guys are funny!
McCain is a commie!
January 27th, 2008 at 12:19 amClinton threw Reagan a virtual hummer in 1991.
Comment by gummitch — January 26, 2008 @ 11:51 pm
The only hummer I see is the one you’re giving to George Bush, Dick Cheney, and the GOP. That “Bush/Cheney 04″ bumper sticker on your car is visible 3,000 miles away.
January 27th, 2008 at 1:28 amComment by delafield — January 26, 2008 @ 11:41 pm
Isn’t it time for you to back under the bridge and get some rest? You have nothing of importance or relevance to say here.
January 27th, 2008 at 1:34 amComment by delafield — January 27, 2008 @ 1:28 am
BTW, what is that drug you are taking. Its not kool ade is it. Thought so. Now go home. You are of no relevance here.
January 27th, 2008 at 1:36 amGood for Obama… I prefer Edwards, but Obama is a close second.
January 27th, 2008 at 1:46 amThe black population is not getting enough credit as it is assumed too much they will all vote for Obama merely because he is black. How about they will vote for Obama because of his fine character, intelligence… he taught constitutional law for 10 years and he began his career helping the poorest in Chicago instead of doing what most do.
I find Bill Clinton’s ties to ‘New World Order’ Bush Sr. frightening along with his anger… what is going on here? Another good reason I DO NOT want corporatist Hillary pres. We have had enough of LIES, mind games all to find/ as time goes by, our treasury has been robbed and transferred to big corporate interests. Enough.
Comment by delafield — January 27, 2008 @ 1:28 am
Delusional.
January 27th, 2008 at 2:03 amin his words, Bush Sr and Bill Clinton’s good buddy, New World Order
January 27th, 2008 at 2:06 amCould Bill Clinton’s anger with the loss in the polls for Hillary have anything, large or small, to do with this?
Clintons: don’t elect them… jail them.
Comment by BERT CONVY — January 27, 2008 @ 2:16 am
On what charge, dingleberry?
January 27th, 2008 at 2:18 amComment by BERT CONVY — January 27, 2008 @ 2:16 am
Someone throw a bucket of water on this witch, bring the broomstick back to GW
So you are saying that GW (Bush) is the Wizard of Oz? There is a similarity to the Great Oz in that he was a bit nuts.
But there is no similarity to the wonderful side of Oz. Bush would be better compared to the Wicked Witch of the West. And the good part of that comparison is that come November 2008, a rather large bucket of water will be dumped on him.
I will revel in that scene as I watch him melt to the nothing he has always been. A poor sock puppet front for the neocons who pull his strings.
January 27th, 2008 at 2:32 amI’m sure we could dig up a charge on the Clintons. Isn’t Web Hubbel out of jail by now?
January 27th, 2008 at 2:33 amOh yeah, and isn’t Hillary really tight with Musharif from Pakistan – the country that spends lots of money with a certain energy company out of….. ARKANSAS?
January 27th, 2008 at 2:35 amComment by dafif — January 27, 2008 @ 2:33 am
I’m sure we could dig up a charge on the Clintons.
Talk is cheap! Do it and make it stick or you are just blowing smoke! Proof please. Not annoyingl crap.
January 27th, 2008 at 2:41 amI’m sure we could dig up a charge on the Clintons. Isn’t Web Hubbel out of jail by now?
Comment by dafif — January 27, 2008 @ 2:33 am
That’s all you’ve ever done is “dig up” charges, none having ever been proven. Your antiAmerican atitude marks y8ou as a typical fascist republican loser. You’re simply jealous that clinton waw theonly competent president in the past 25 years.
January 27th, 2008 at 4:01 amFrom Georgia 10 at Daily Kos:
Total 2008 South Carolina Primary Turnout
Democratic: about 530,322
Republican: about 446,000
Obama received more votes than all Democrats in the 2004 South Carolina Democratic Primary (292,383)
January 27th, 2008 at 6:28 amObama received more votes in this primary than George W. Bush received in 2000 when he beat John McCain (Bush won 293,652 votes)
Obama has won more votes than McCain and Huckabee won in South Carolina–combined.
Republican turnout in the 2000 South Carolina GOP primary was about 573,000 (the state’s record). This appears to make this primary the second highest turnout in South Carolina history. In other words, Democrats are likely going to finish about 40,000 shy of what the GOP was ever able to crank out in a state where Republicans outnumber Democrats by a wide margin.
The following are polls from progressive groups, rating Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, on how often they vote for progressive issues. For each group, http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/011142.php
Clinton Vs. Barack Obama (progressivepunch)
January 27th, 2008 at 7:19 amOverall Progressive Score: 92% 90%
Aid to Less Advantaged People at Home and Abroad: 98% 97%
Corporate Subsidies 100% N/A
Education, Humanities and the Arts 88% 100%
Environment 92% 100%
Fair Taxation 97% 100%
Family Planning 88% 80%
Government Checks on Corporate Power 95% 97%
Healthcare 98% 94%
Housing 100% 100%
Human Rights & Civil Liberties 82% 77%
Justice for All: Civil and Criminal 94% 91%
Labor Rights 91% 91%
Making Government Work for Everyone, Not Just the Rich or Powerful 94% 90%
War and Peace 80% 86%
Caroline Kennedy “A President Like My Father”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/27/opinion/27kennedy.html?
th&emc=th
Frank Rich “The Billary Road to Republican Victory”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/27/opinion/27rich.html?th&emc=th
January 27th, 2008 at 8:52 amIf Obama and Edwards lose this race, it is no secrect who will be the winner of the Democrats side…
HILLARAY !!!
And from the GOP side , it looks like McCain on his way to win..
Hillary and McCain means no change…the same old Washington politics and war mentality as we know it…
January 27th, 2008 at 9:06 amBoth Hillary and McCain are war monegrs and supporters of whatever Senator Lieberman puts for them on the table.
Expect more of the same,more of wars and more plans to advance PNAC maifesto in the Middle East…
If these two nominees (McCain & Hillary) win nominations of their parties while 70% of people are against war….then something is wrong,indeed with the way we vote.
Obama winning SC gets him 1 whole sentence here. LOL
Comment by Kilo — January 27, 2008 @ 8:01 am
is that really how you measure things? What a dolt. Go back in your hole, your head will fit.
January 27th, 2008 at 9:27 amOnly 2.2 pounds of crap would be concerned with the size of the headline. As if it meant something. Grasping for any shred of fabric to stave off the Democratic avalanche that’s coming down the slope at him.
January 27th, 2008 at 10:23 amLOL!
BTW Kilo, got a size problem yourself?
January 27th, 2008 at 10:27 amFor many useful links on what Europe has to say on the primaries go here!
January 27th, 2008 at 11:53 ami just gotta say, kilo has a point…
i noticed it last night when TP posted this article…
i figured it was obligatory that they posted it at all…
but the clinton bias is always there…
kinda funny how a HUGE majority of us are NOT hillary fans…
heh…
i don’t get around the blogosphere much, but i’ve noticed that
January 27th, 2008 at 12:03 pmhttp://www.crooksandliars.com/ has pretty good coverage…
…
George Bush, the kind of guy you want to have a beer with. Obama, the Rock Star. Is that how we choose our leaders? I’m sorry, but repeating Hope and Change just doesn’t cut it. He really has to explain those words with more than poetic speeches.
January 27th, 2008 at 12:10 pmComment by Tawdry — January 27, 2008 @ 12:10 pm
While it is important to have good ideas and plans for the future of America, it is equally important to be able to SELL them to the American people and their representatives.
Obama has the gift of eloquent persuasion. His supporters don’t just agree with him…they are passionate about it.
Al Gore, for instance, is very bright and experienced, but he just couldn’t make the sale with the American Voters overwhelmingly enough to win his own home state.
January 27th, 2008 at 12:30 pm“Ding, Dong, the Wicked Witch is Dead†starting to fill the streets.
Comment by good_golly — January 27, 2008 @ 12:59 pm
Are they singing about Cheny, or Bush? Or condi?
January 27th, 2008 at 2:08 pmKilo, you poor, ignorant, shallow oiece of shit, Obama’s victory only needs one line. What would you add, some racist claptrap? Unlike you and your side, we can, and do, think for ourselves. That won’t work for a dolt like you, more’s the pity.
January 27th, 2008 at 2:09 pmAl Gore, for instance, is very bright and experienced, but he just couldn’t make the sale with the American Voters overwhelmingly enough to win his own home state.
Comment by Badger — January 27, 2008 @ 12:30 pm
well, to be completely fair, Al’s home state is populated by rednecked morons outside the cities. Tennessee is a red state, always has been, may never get itself into the 20th century, never mind the 21st. until Conservatives have caught up to the rest of us in terms of evolution and brainpower, we’re always going to be cleaning up their messes.
January 27th, 2008 at 2:12 pmAnyone out there believe that all of the African-Americans who voted for Obama in the primary will be allowed to vote in November?
January 27th, 2008 at 2:45 pmRe: Comment #89 –
Are these the same “independent election observers” that were in Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004?
January 27th, 2008 at 3:03 pmWith all the whining that’s taking place on this message board, I’m going to have to get a slice of cheese from my refridgerator. I’ll be back later.
January 27th, 2008 at 4:10 pmRe: Post #91 –
This writer is a regular visitor to the bradblog website, and don’t recall him expressing the confidence that you do regarding the ability of election observers to absolutely ensure fair elections(although they have and can serve the role of reporting irregularities when they occur and are useful in that regard).
Please cite the date and title of the article(s) to which you are referring.
Thanx.
January 27th, 2008 at 10:39 pmCue infantile-to-junior-high level humor from Limbaugh et al (e.g. whoever shares his stall these days).
January 28th, 2008 at 11:21 am