Rep. Lewis reaches $1 million in legal fees.
By on Jan 26th, 2008 at 9:38 am
Rep. Lewis reaches $1 million in legal fees.
Rep. Jerry Lewis (R-CA) has been under federal investigation “for his ties to defense contractor and convicted criminal Brent Wilkes and lobbyist buddy Bill Lowery” since the spring of 2006. Beginning in June 2006, Lewis has been paying heavy sums in legal fees to deal with the probe. TPMmuckraker reported yesterday that a $62,000 payment to the law firm Gibson, Dunn, and Crutcher on Dec. 12 last year put him over the $1 million mark.
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Interesting how it’s the guilty politicos fighting for tort reform, eh?
January 26th, 2008 at 9:42 amInnocent until proven guilty. The fact that a political body investigates you without charging you comes a long way from making you guilty.
Comment by good_golly — January 26, 2008 @ 9:55 am
Where were you during WHITEWATER??
January 26th, 2008 at 10:02 amInnocent until proven guilty. The fact that a political body investigates you without charging you comes a long way from making you guilty.
Comment by goon_golly — January 26, 2008 @ 9:55 am
It’s good you’re acknowledging how this administration has politicized the Justice Department, goon. Still, this usually shows up in their treatment of Democrats.
No surprise to see you trying to minimize any bad behavior on the part of a Republican. You probably still have a signed photo of Duke Cunningham on the wall.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:04 amWhere there’s smoke, there’s fire…
January 26th, 2008 at 10:15 amThus still, innocent until PROVEN GUILTY.
Comment by good_golly — January 26, 2008 @ 10:09 am
Just like your “guests” in Gunatanamo, right?
January 26th, 2008 at 10:16 amThus still, innocent until PROVEN GUILTY.
Comment by goon_golly — January 26, 2008 @ 10:09 am
The rest of us have already gotten through the fifth grade, goon, so this simple fact is already known. Other than mindless repetition, is there a point you want to make? Are you suggesting that it is wrong to even mention that a Republican is under investigation for corruption?
January 26th, 2008 at 10:19 amyou can see why I believed the “Innocent until proven guilty†reminder was timely and appropriate.
Comment by good_golly — January 26, 2008 @ 10:23 am
Oh, of course. Because Lewis is a Republican. Trust me, I got that. We all get that.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:25 amGoing a bit off topic there, eh?
Comment by good_golly — January 26, 2008 @ 10:20 am
Oh, I’m sorry, I thought the topic was the concept of “innocent until proven guilty” as you’ve mentioned it in every post.
I thought it might be helpful to remind you that Republicans only bring up that line when Republicans are in trouble, not for example when people who don’t look or speak like you have been rendered from street corners around the world, tortured and held for the rest of their lives without the right to due process.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:29 amHere’s your “innocent until proven guilty,” right here:
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Film_examines_torture_death_at_Bagram_0124.html
January 26th, 2008 at 10:33 am8. Going a bit off topic there, eh?
Comment by good_golly
gg is not a moderator……..go ahead plunger, some of us do see the connection. Too damned bad you trolls don’t want to hear any releveant truthieness that makes you look foolish.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:34 amyou can see why I believed the “Innocent until proven guilty†reminder was timely and appropriate.
Comment by good_golly — January 26, 2008 @ 10:23 am
So is the “smoke and fire” comment.
I didn’t say he was guilty, goon_gullible. I just INFERRED there appears to be GOOD reasons he’s being investigated.
Sheez, learn to READ.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:35 amgg is not a moderator……..go ahead plunger, some of us do see the connection. Too damned bad you trolls don’t want to hear any releveant truthieness that makes you look foolish.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:35 amTry to stop distorting others’ comments.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:35 amNOWHERE in the article does it say the investigation has FAILED.
LEARN TO READ, Li’l gullible.
Wasted money???
Hell NO!
January 26th, 2008 at 10:38 amDon’t any of you want to talk about the millions of taxpayer dollars wasted on the stalled and failed investigation of Rep. Lewis?
Comment by good_golly — January 26, 2008 @ 10:37 am
Yes, that’s why he’s spent a cool million dollars, to stall and slow the inevitable. Failed? Harldy. He’s going to prison, deservedly. As many, many repukes are, far more than the piddly Clinton years. TYou have Whitewater, which Clinton was completely absolved of; we have treason in the Plame case, which George Bush had to cover up and bribe Libby with a pardon for.
But keep on injecting that koolaid, while your party destroys your country, gg.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:41 amDon’t any of you want to talk about the millions of taxpayer dollars wasted on the stalled and failed investigation of Rep. Lewis?
Comment by good_golly — January 26, 2008 @ 10:37 am
You’re right, goon. It is truly appalling that Republicans have been successful in interfering with this investigation of one of Congress’ most corrupt members. He has been wasting millions of taxpayer dollars through his corruption, you’re absolutely correct.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:43 amGG Allin?
January 26th, 2008 at 10:45 amWing nut code words.
Any investigation into a Republican for corruption or dishonesty is “a waste of taxpayer dollars” and “a witch hunt”.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:47 amLearn to read. The investigation is going forward.
There certainly is the appearance of multiple improprieties in Lewis’ dealings, definitely making him worthy of serious investigation.
the fact that Herr Brusch and his cronies have gone so far out of their way to damage the DoJ is a separate issue.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:47 am26. You are clearly wrong, but at least now you are on point. Congratulations.
Comment by good_golly — January 26, 2008 @ 10:45 am
and when Lewis is finally jailed? Will you admit to being “clearly wrong”? That will be the outcome. Nobody who isn’t guilty has to spend a million on defense, and the republicans ahd to steal $70 million form the taspayers to catch Clinton is a sex scandal. Talk about antiAmerican, and you have to include Republicans along with Bin Laden and the Saudis.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:48 amWhat about the millions ( billions) of dollars wasted on weaponry that we don’t need , and which doesn’t even work. What about the no bid contracts for an Iraqi police facility with SEWAGE coming out of the light fixtures.
No…. Rep. Lewis needs to be investigated for collusion with weapons manufacturers, and it will end up saving the taxpayers money.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:48 amWill Scooter Libby was found guilty but George W. Bush(Horse thief) couldn’t bear to see Scooty Poot in that can so he pardoned him.
Bush friend Jack Abramoff, guilty.
Bush adviser Claude Allen, guilty of theft.
Bush Whitehouse adviser David Safavian, guilty.
Bush pal Ken Lay, guilty, then dead.
Bush friend Bob Ney, guilty of wanton scumbaggery.
Bush pal Duke Cunningham, guilty.
Bush is surrounded by scumbags.
-GSD
January 26th, 2008 at 10:48 am26. You are clearly wrong, but at least now you are on point. Congratulations.
Comment by good_golly — January 26, 2008 @ 10:45 am
You’re so easily confused, goon. I’ve been on point since the beginning of the thread, although I see that you’re making continued references to Whitewater while accusing others of being off-topic. Is this what they teach in logic classes at George Mason, CT?
Please explain to the rest of us why the investigation into Lewis’ corrupt activities is inappropriate or stalled or failed.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:49 amLearn to investigate. There’s a lot more out there on the stalled and failed investigation than a single link to a “Talking Points†website.
Comment by good_golly — January 26, 2008 @ 10:42 am
there is nothing to investigate. Lewis is guilty, and only the Bushco destruction of the Rule Of Law has kept him free so far.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:49 amBush is surrounded by scumbags.
-GSD
Comment by GSD — January 26, 2008 @ 10:48 am
Bush is the scumbag-in-chief.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:50 amBush supporters are mini-scumbags, like gg.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:50 amBush supporters are enemies of freedom and antiAmerican.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:51 amHe can’t, gummitch.
He’s only here to misdirect, period.
The comment about “millions of wasted dollars” is a good example.
Talk about your strawmen…
January 26th, 2008 at 10:51 amKeep drinking your Clinton koolaid, Lefty, and follow the link on post 6 if you want to be truly informed.
Comment by good_golly
gg’s getting desperate……been gettin her ass kicked in here lately and is trying to make an early mark on the wall in this thread……sad effort though.
Lets see how does she usually put it…well it only took 30 posts for you moonbats to pull and play the clinton card….hillaryous……
January 26th, 2008 at 10:52 am26. Your link simply shows that an entertainment magazine found the Congressman one of the “most likely to be indicted†16 months ago; something that still hasn’t happened. Looks like your rag mag was wrong.
Comment by good_golly — January 26, 2008 @ 10:47 am
There are two links, goon. Is that too many? And, of course, you’ve actually read both thoroughly and are prepared to rebut the information, right? I mean, you’ve done your own investigation that thoroughly dismisses the FBI’s work, and all of the reports about Lewis’ corruption. Right?
Right?
January 26th, 2008 at 10:52 amHe can’t, gummitch.
He’s only here to misdirect, period.
The comment about “millions of wasted dollars†is a good example.
Talk about your strawmen…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
and being very successful at it this morning……why are you communicating directly with a known liar?
January 26th, 2008 at 10:54 amComment by goon_golly — January 26, 2008 @ 10:53 am
Proof that the investigation has stalled and failed, goon.
Proof.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:55 amExcuse, Fred?
Do I need your permission to post here?
January 26th, 2008 at 10:55 amProof.
Comment by gummitch — January 26, 2008 @ 10:55 am
The reason the investigation has slowed down is because the DoJ keeps pulling the prosecutors off of it, not for a lack of credible evidence.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:56 amI just don’t get this talking to the trolls bs….I can accept it only as sport. Otherwise it is totally playing thier game to acknowlege anything they say.
To do more than note thier foolish existance is giving them what they want and makes coming to TP pointless. TP obviously will not moderate these threads so it is just a free for all. Might as well be a 3rd grade playground.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:58 amHard to bring charges when the lead investigators keep getting yanked off the case.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:58 am3rd grade?
Is that why you’re here, Fred?
January 26th, 2008 at 10:59 amExcuse, Fred?
Do I need your permission to post here?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
of course not…I’m not sure what I said that you could have misunderstood so badly……
January 26th, 2008 at 11:00 amros, do you actually think that gg is contributing positivly to the discussion. I mean if you try to give them the benifit of the doubt and say they are being the devils advocate……do you really think that is what they are doing?
They are here to disrupt and they are doing it on most of the threads. That’s all I’m saying.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:03 am37. Thus demonstrating the “Lefty’s†twisted view of the Constitution. To Lefty it is “Guilty†if you are a Republican, even when a stalled and failed investigation doesn’t even lead to a single indictment against the Congressman. His constituents clearly don’t buy this, as they re-elected him with 67% of the vote, even with this politically motivated “investigation†ongoing.
Comment by good_golly — January 26, 2008 @ 10:53 am
Proof that republiscum don’t care about the law, and don’t know right from wrong. Lewis is guilty, and a scumbag, so naturally a scumbag like gg will defend him, even after he’s convicted and jailed. rightards hzve no morals whatsoever.
“43. If they had enough information to try for a conviction, there would have at least been a formal charge by now. Thus, I agree with the authorities that there is not enough “smoke†to even try for a conviction.
Comment by good_golly — January 26, 2008 @ 10:57 am
Which is why he’s spent a million dollars, because there’s no evidence. You’re as stupid as his voters, gg. What a tool.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:05 am43. If they had enough information to try for a conviction, there would have at least been a formal charge by now. Thus, I agree with the authorities that there is not enough “smoke†to even try for a conviction.
Comment by good_golly — January 26, 2008 @ 10:57 am
Which “authorities” would that be, goon?
January 26th, 2008 at 11:06 amSomeone please inform resident eejit, Good Golly, that the reelection was hacked and Lewis didn’t win at all – please!
January 26th, 2008 at 11:07 amgood_golly: That’s just it – there IS enough smoke to recognize that a fire is within striking distance on Lewis. They’ve got the evidence they need and will move forward with it – along with the “new stuff” they’ve recently gathered on him.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:08 amros, do you actually think that gg is contributing positivly to the discussion. I mean if you try to give them the benifit of the doubt and say they are being the devils advocate……do you really think that is what they are doing?
They are here to disrupt and they are doing it on most of the threads. That’s all I’m saying.
Comment by Fred — January 26, 2008 @ 11:03 am
Fred, longtimers like TRoS know exactly what trolls do, and don’t need any advice from you. Seriously.
And there is virtually no “discussion” on this particular thread because everyone but goon is aware of the facts in the case, and that Lewis will eventually get nailed.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:08 amHis constituents clearly don’t buy this, as they re-elected him with 67% of the vote, even with this politically motivated “investigation†ongoing.
Comment by goon_golly — January 26, 2008 @ 10:53 am
So, obviously, the case against William Jefferson is political and unsubstantiated, or he wouldn’t have been reelected. Right?
Goon?
January 26th, 2008 at 11:10 amGG’s “authorities” consist of the wingnut liars who defend all republiscum, including child molesters and the closetted homosexuals that are setting such a good example for the children of America.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:14 amFred, longtimers like TRoS know exactly what trolls do, and don’t need any advice from you. Seriously.
And there is virtually no “discussion†on this particular thread because everyone but goon is aware of the facts in the case, and that Lewis will eventually get nailed.
Comment by gummitch
ok then……I guess there is MY sign……Apparently you guys like things the way they are…..am I to assume that that is correct and furthermore only the old time regulars have any say in the way things are done here.
I have seen several people in the time I have been here who tried to get to the bottom of issues…..like this, only to be buried by gg and her kin. With help from the relulars…..playing with the trolls…..and losing….every day….every time you engage them the thread is lost. It becomes thier thread…….
You may have good info about this topic but you speak for a lot of people when you say that everyone but goon is aware of the facts in this case.
I have every right to post my opinion here and will as I like. There was nothing in the terms of agreement that said that I had to be a member for three years before I could post my opinion……
Some of you have been regulars here for 3 years but I have been a democrat for longer than some of you have been alive.
and don’t need any advice from you. Seriously
this statement says a lot gummitch….
January 26th, 2008 at 11:18 amI have every right to post my opinion here and will as I like. There was nothing in the terms of agreement that said that I had to be a member for three years before I could post my opinion……
Some of you have been regulars here for 3 years but I have been a democrat for longer than some of you have been alive.
and don’t need any advice from you. Seriously
this statement says a lot gummitch….
Comment by Fred — January 26, 2008 @ 11:18 am
Whatever. No one suggested you couldn’t post your opinion, or that there was a time limit on it. You’re the one lecturing others about how to behave, but clearly you’re not willing to listen to any suggestion that your own behavior needs a bit of work. Fine.
I seriously doubt you’ve been a Democrat more than 57 years, but if that’s the case, gramps, congratulations.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:22 amHe might put a spin on spending the money…’It is a fight for ‘family values’..
January 26th, 2008 at 11:26 amYou’re the one lecturing others about how to behave, but clearly you’re not willing to listen to any suggestion that your own behavior needs a bit of work. Fine.
Comment by gummitch
I have listened you the explainations and I’m only offering alteratives because what I see here is not working, sorry….I have listened but I still can make no sense of it..
I said older than some…..see you respond to my posts with anger…..
January 26th, 2008 at 11:27 am8. Going a bit off topic there, eh?
Comment by good_golly — January 26, 2008 @ 10:20 am
pot meet kettlle,
eh?
January 26th, 2008 at 11:27 amI seriously doubt you’ve been a Democrat more than 57 years, but if that’s the case, gramps, congratulations.
Comment by gummitch — January 26, 2008 @ 11:22 am
you’re OLDER the me too!?!?! hooray!
…
and fred – just don’t be such a whiner…
January 26th, 2008 at 11:34 amyou get your feelings hurt? no one has to know…
just carry on…
older THAN me… hooray!
January 26th, 2008 at 11:34 amSomebody please explain to me other than, do process of law, and I say that with a real stupid sounding voice like “Duh um guilty till proven innocent”, why someone would defend some dirty politician waisting over a million dollars of much needed tax payer dollars.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:38 amnice put downs katy…..nice 3rd grade effort.
I just disagree. You guys know that what I say is true. As someone just coming in here in the last few weeks I have to say that the trolls are making you guys look bad….just an impression from an objective viewpoint…..something you guys seem to have lost.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:39 amSee ROS and Fred now goon has been able top turn the two of you against each other.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:44 amJUST LET THE TROLLS LIVE UNDER THE BRIDGE. DO NOT FEED, NOR TALK TO THE TROLLS!
Fred, if trolls make anyone look bad, it’s the people that support their belifs and stick up for them, and by dragging bloggers that want to talk issues with other informed bloggers down in the the mud. My wise father once told me to never get in a spitting fight with a spitter.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:49 amYou guys know that what I say is true. As someone just coming in here in the last few weeks I have to say that the trolls are making you guys look bad….just an impression from an objective viewpoint…..something you guys seem to have lost.
Comment by Fred — January 26, 2008 @ 11:39 am
Fred, get lost. You’re an old scold, you’re sounding like McCain/Lieberman with ths schoolteacher crap.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:50 am72 & 73
Your posts seem to agree with me that we should ignore the trolls and that it is just foolish to engage them. I just wanted to have that discussion. Period. Not trying to tell anyone what to do or anything….just express my viewpoint and discuss it.
72…I have not turned against anyone…
I guess until TP starts moderating these threads that they will just be a free for all.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:57 amFred, get lost. You’re an old scold, you’re sounding like McCain/Lieberman with ths schoolteacher crap.
Comment by Lefty Patriot
That’s your opinion lefty…..I have mine…..you will not deny by intimidation so get used to it.
January 26th, 2008 at 11:59 amfred, my comment was for your benefit…
January 26th, 2008 at 12:09 pmtake it or leave it…
Innocent until proven guilty. The fact that a political body investigates you without charging you comes a long way from making you guilty.
Comment by good_golly
GiGi agrees that one is innocent until proven guilty. Problem is, he only thinks that if you are a Republiscum. He has posted several posts here about William Jefferson, all negative. Nothing about how he is “innocent until proven guilty”.
He also misses the point that Lewis should have been in a court of law by now proving his “innocence”. But, because the Bush DOJ is dragging it’s feet on bringing the case to the courts, Lewis is not getting the opportunity to prove his “innocence”.
January 26th, 2008 at 12:20 pmgoon_golly lists the number of convicitons in the Clinton Administration. Perhaps he would like to see the list for the Reagan administration, many of whom were pardoned by Reagan:
“By the end of his term, 138 Reagan administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations. In terms of number of officials involved, the record of his administration was the worst ever.”
1. Lyn Nofziger–White House Press Secretary – Convicted on charges of illegal lobbying of White House in Wedtech scandal. The lobbying would not have been illegal had he not been White House Press Secretary.
2. Michael Deaver, Reagan’s Chief of Staff, received three years’ probation and was fined one hundred thousand dollars after being convicted for lying to a congressional subcommittee and a federal grand jury about his lobbying activities after leaving the White House. Same as with Lyn Nofziger.
3. James Watt, Reagan’s Secretary of the Interior was indicted on 41 felony counts for using connections at the Department of Housing and Urban Development to help his private clients seek federal funds for housing projects in Maryland, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands. Watt conceded that he had received $500,000 from clients who were granted very favorable housing contracts after he had intervened on their behalf. Watt was eventually sentenced to five years in prison and 500 hours of community service.
4. John Poindexter, Reagan’s national security advisor, guilty of five criminal counts involving conspiracy to mislead Congress, obstructing congressional inquiries, lying to lawmakers, used “high national security” to mask deceit and wrong-doing…
5. Richard Secord pleaded guilty to a felony charge of lying to Congress over Iran-Contra. Appointed by William Casey to assist Oliver North.
6. Elliott Abrams was appointed by President Reagan in 1985 to head the State Department’s Latin American Bureau. He was closely linked with ex-White House aide Lt. Col. Oliver North’s covert movement to aid the Contras. Working for North, Abrams coordinated inter-agency support for the contras and helped solicit illegal funding from foreign powers as well as domestic contributors. Abrams agreed to cooperate with Iran-Contra investigators and pled guilty to two charges reduced to misdemeanors. He was sentenced in 1991 to two years probation and 100 hours of community service but was pardoned by President George Bush…
7. Robert C. McFarlane, Reagan’s National Security Advisor, pled guilty to four misdemeanors and was sentenced to two years probation and 200 hours of community service. He was also fined $20,000. He received a blanket pardon from President George Bush…
8. Alan D. Fiers was the Chief of the Central Intelligence Agency’s Central American Task Force. Fiers pled guilty in 1991 to two counts of withholding information from congress about Oliver North’s activities and the diversion of Iran arms sale money to aid the Contras. He was sentenced to one year of probation and 100 hours of community service. Alan Fiers received a blanket pardon for his crimes from President Bush…
9. Thomas G. Clines: convicted of four counts of tax-related offenses for failing to report income from the operations;
10. Carl R. Channel – Office of Public Diplomacy , partner in International Business- first person convicted in the Iran/Contra scandal, pleaded guilty of one count of defrauding the United States
11. Richard R. Miller – Partner with Oliver North in IBC, a Office of Public Diplomacy front group, convicted of conspiracy to defraud the United States.
12. Frank Gomez
13.. Donald Fortier
14. Clair George was Chief of the CIA’s Division of Covert Operations under President Reagan. George was convicted of lying to two congressional committees in 1986. George faced a maximum five year federal prison sentence and a $20,000 fine for each of the two convictions. Jurors cleared George of five other charges including two counts of lying to a federal grand jury. Clair George received a blanket pardon for his crimes from President George Bush…
15. Rita Lavelle was indicted, tried and convicted of lying to Congress and served three months of a six-month prison sentence.
16. Philip Winn – Assistant HUD Secretary. Pleaded guilty to one count of scheming to give illegal gratuities.
17. Thomas Demery – Assistand HUD Secretary – pleaded guilty to steering HUD subsidies to politically connected donors.
18. Deborah Gore Dean – executive assistant to Samuel Pierce – indicted on thirteen counts, three counts of conspiracy, one count of accepting an illegal gratuity, four counts of perjury, and five counts of concealing articles. She was convicted on twelve accounts. She appealed and prevailed on several accounts but the convictions for conspiracy remained.
19. Catalina Villaponda – Former US Treasurer
20. Joseph A. Strauss – Accepting kickbacks from developers
21. Oliver North – He was indicted on sixteen felony counts and on May 4, 1989, he was convicted of three: accepting an illegal gratuity, aiding and abetting in the obstruction of a congressional inquiry, and destruction of documents (by his secretary, Fawn Hall, on his instructions). He was sentenced by U.S. District Judge Gerhard A. Gesell on July 5, 1989, to a three-year suspended prison term, two years probation, $150,000 in fines, and 1,200 hours community service. His conviction was later overturned.
January 26th, 2008 at 12:24 pm#22 goon_golly wants to talk about the millions of taxpayer dollars that were wasted on investigating Lewis. Perhaps he would also like to talk about the 70 million dollars that was wasted on investigating Clinton.
January 26th, 2008 at 12:26 pmkaty, you don’t have all the answers either and the insults don’t help.
January 26th, 2008 at 12:28 pm43. If they had enough information to try for a conviction, there would have at least been a formal charge by now.
Comment by good_golly
GiGi certainly has had her fill of kool-aid today. She thinks that because Lewis hasn’t been indicted means he is not guilty. She completely misses the point that the reason why Lewis hasn’t been indicted is because Bush fired Carol Lam when she was getting ready to indict Lewis and has made sure that her replacement puts this investigation on the back burner. Poor GiGi, she’s having a bad day here.
January 26th, 2008 at 12:32 pmI am confused as to why some of you regulars here have ganged up on Fred and insulted him. All he is saying is what a lot of other regulars say which is playing “whack a troll” only contributes to the troll problem here on TP. I will no longer address a troll directly. I will address the foolishness they post, but I will not talk to them directly. Try it, you might like it. And please, let’s stop eating our own. We are starting to look like the Republiscums.
January 26th, 2008 at 12:40 pmsee posts #72 & 73
January 26th, 2008 at 12:47 pmsee posts #72 & 73
Comment by Fred
I have read them all and I have to say that I am appalled at the way some regulars here have treated you. I expect it is because you have hit a nerve.
January 26th, 2008 at 12:55 pmbilbo – there was no insult in my message to fred…
only friendly advice…
but here’s an insult:
there are times he sounds like a 14yr.old… see #81…
’s all i’m sayin’ about that…
you all know i’ve been b!tch!n about feeding the troolls for years…
January 26th, 2008 at 12:57 pmlot of good it’s done… well, maybe some…
my motives are mostly selfish, as i’m embarrassed at times
to be a “regular” at TP when that sh!t happens…
that’s all…
but here’s an insult:
there are times he sounds like a 14yr.old… see #81…
’s all i’m sayin’ about that…
Comment by katy
You have been insulting since the first time you responded to one of my posts…..saying my opinion sounded “uppity” for a newbe…….
the term as racial overtones along with a condescending ring.
FYI For anyone who just drifts into TP and watches the interchange between you “regulars” and the trolls……..I’m pretty sure it looks like a bunch of 14 year olds…it did to me when I first arrived.
January 26th, 2008 at 1:02 pmI have read them all and I have to say that I am appalled at the way some regulars here have treated you. I expect it is because you have hit a nerve.
Comment by bilbobaggins
I think so too….I did not start this just to start a fight.
January 26th, 2008 at 1:04 pmSomething told me that Fred’s numb nuts newbie mouth was going to get him in trouble.
He’s a good one to talk about feeding trolls.
∞
January 26th, 2008 at 1:16 pmcomment about the alpha troll’s statement:
I have been on a learning curve here for a few days but I understand much now….that being said, it in no way elevates the status of a troll or disrupter above wormdirt.
January 26th, 2008 at 1:18 pmThat’s your opinion lefty…..I have mine…..you will not deny by intimidation so get used to it.
Comment by Fred — January 26, 2008 @ 11:59 am
Hey, you paranoid litle freak, you’re sounding like a republican concern troll. Nobody’s trying to intimidate you, but your endless whining and crybaby tactics are every bit as distracting and wasteful as any troll’s. You’d be better off with your own blog.
January 26th, 2008 at 1:23 pmI’m pretty sure it looks like a bunch of 14 year olds…it did to me when I first arrived.
Comment by Fred — January 26, 2008 @ 1:02 pm
And so you’ve decided to act like a 12-year-old?
I think so too….I did not start this just to start a fight.
Comment by Fred — January 26, 2008 @ 1:04 pm
yes, you did.
January 26th, 2008 at 1:26 pmyour endless whining and crybaby tactics are every bit as distracting and wasteful as any troll’s.
Comment by Lefty Patriot
That would be patently impossible……the trolls win daily here…sorry that is my opinion spoken at the risk of being called uppity……Your accusation doesn’t hold water.
Gummitch had already declared this thread dead as justification for interacting with the trolls……read through it.
I haven’t called you guys any names but the winey one is starting to sound like you.
January 26th, 2008 at 1:30 pmwormdirt.
Comment by Fred
Look who’s wormdirt now; but keep your chin up, you’ll always have Shayne.
It’s never too late to change your handle, perhaps the ‘regulars’ won’t recognize you.
∞
January 26th, 2008 at 1:34 pm….but I digress back on topic…
I think Rep. Lewis is guilty as ‘ell.
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January 26th, 2008 at 1:38 pmI haven’t called you guys any names but the winey one is starting to sound like you.
Comment by Fred — January 26, 2008 @ 1:30 pm
only to you, fred.
January 26th, 2008 at 1:45 pmtake it from this gardener, worm dirt is fanTAStic!
and, my using “uppity” has got NOTHIN’ to do with RACE.
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later all… time to move around… keep warm…
January 26th, 2008 at 1:50 pmFred @ 93
Fred, your giving yourself away now….lets try to stay in character as an old time Democrat who needs to distract the posters with the need for proper posting etiquette.
As far as that corrupt Jerry Lewis is concerned, it cost his defending law firm a million bucks to hire the USDA who was the lead prosecutor on this case. That should tell you everything about how corrupt and significant this case is.
January 26th, 2008 at 2:05 pmFred @ 93
Fred, your giving yourself away now….lets try to stay in character as an old time Democrat who needs to distract the posters with the need for proper posting etiquette.
Comment by Innocent Bystander
Yeah, that’s what I’m trying to do \sarcasm……..That’s twice today I have been called a troll. I’ve said what I think and this will end it as far as trying to have a discussion about it.
January 26th, 2008 at 2:18 pmLook who’s wormdirt now; but keep your chin up, you’ll always have Shayne.
It’s never too late to change your handle, perhaps the ‘regulars’ won’t recognize you.
Comment by alphainfinityomega
That’s pretty funny coming from someone who has come here pretending to be a liberal in order to pit us against each other in an attempt to disrupt this site. Nice try but no cigar.
January 26th, 2008 at 2:20 pmFred, it’s not your message that’s a problem. It’s your tone. I have suggested at times that we ignore trolls. I have not been targeted by regulars because I only suggest, not nag. Other times, I’m thick in the mix in whacking them and others have suggested that I stop. Sometimes, I do, and sometimes I don’t. There’s no right answer to this, since this blog is not a life or death matter. Voice your opinion, have some fun, practice arguing with the wingnuts – that’s what this site is about.
January 26th, 2008 at 2:24 pmkaty – usually I think your posts are spot on, but this time I think you have missed the mark. Here’s what you wrote:
and fred – just don’t be such a whiner…
you get your feelings hurt? no one has to know…
just carry on…
Comment by katy
That post sounded pretty insulting to me and it wasn’t even aimed at me.
As I said before, why are we turning on each other? It looks like the trolls and alphainfinityomega have succeeded in that goal.
January 26th, 2008 at 2:24 pmbilbo ~ bingo. And GG (long gone) must be laughing his ass off, having not only derailed the thread, but gotten us yapping at each other…
January 26th, 2008 at 2:26 pmbilbo ~ bingo. And GG (long gone) must be laughing his ass off, having not only derailed the thread, but gotten us yapping at each other…
Comment by RUCerious
I believe that is what Fred was trying to say all along. He may not have said it in terms that some people here think he should have, but that was his point and he was dead on. I think he hit a lot of nerves and that is what caused the regulars here to start attacking him. It’s sad.
January 26th, 2008 at 2:29 pmAfter comment #5, why didn’t someone state the obvious?
The Clintons were never found to be guilty of a damned thing.
January 26th, 2008 at 2:34 pmwell, excuse me… really… i truly meant no harm… sorry…
all who found that comment insulting? say AY…
seriously, i’m curious…
perhaps i could’ve elaborated:
“and fred – some words of friendly advice: just try not to sound like such a whiner, a nagger…
if you should get your feelings hurt by someone’s comment to you?
no one has to know… you don’t have to respond…
just carry on…”
…
so, i’ve decided to warm up by baking cookies… peanut butter…
found THE best recipe – JOY OF COOKING…
later…
oh, and thanks, bilbobaggins…
January 26th, 2008 at 2:48 pmkaty, I’ll be right over!
January 26th, 2008 at 2:49 pmI remember what a fellow buyer said to me once.
It doesn’t hurt to wear your rhino skin when you get into a debate…
January 26th, 2008 at 2:50 pmI have a suggestion for all the regulars here. Try talking about the trolls not to them. That’s what I am doing. It works well. I can address their idiotic posts without actually engaging them in dialog. It hurts a lot less than beating my head against a brick wall which is what trying to have a conversation with a troll feels like.
January 26th, 2008 at 3:28 pmso, i’ve decided to warm up by baking cookies… peanut butter…
found THE best recipe – JOY OF COOKING…
later…
oh, and thanks, bilbobaggins…
Comment by katy
Why don’t you offer a cookie to Fred?
I’m not sure if you were truly thanking me, but if you were, then “You’re welcome”.
January 26th, 2008 at 3:29 pmRep. Jerry Lewis (R-CA) = Scumbag! Corrupt, useless RePugniScum f~ckwad!!!
January 26th, 2008 at 4:26 pmok! it’s cookies!
come and get ‘em!
January 26th, 2008 at 5:15 pmI am sure they are superb but I don’t really like peanut butter. Kudos on taking the time to make actual food.
January 26th, 2008 at 5:24 pmI’m making Martha Stewart Meditarranean Chili. Smells pretty good so far.
January 26th, 2008 at 6:19 pmwell, “superb” is stretching it, dbadass… we’re talking pb cookies here…
but they turned out great… i wanted to see if using my WHITE WHOLE WHEAT flour would work in them… i’ve used it in my nutty, whole oats and organic shredded wheat crumbs cookies, but those are so full of stuff you can’t tell… these pb cookies take it well also…
since i found WHITE whole wheat flour i’ve been using it more…
i heartily recommend it…
mmmmm… i will have to find that martha recipe, lefty… let us know how it tastes… my experience finds that those kind of dishes are even better the next day…
January 26th, 2008 at 6:32 pmComment by PatrioticLiberalChristian — January 26, 2008 @ 2:24 pm
What PLC said. :-)
Rhino skin — good.
January 27th, 2008 at 1:53 amMaybe bilbobaggins can whine and cry because he donated a little bit of money to TP. and now wants it back.
But that’s not what I object to; what I despise is some keyboard commando like dildobaggins,who probably sits behind his computer 24/7, with an ass the size of a watermelon – telling me what my ideology is.
And I could care less whether you talk to me directly or indirectly or not at all.
But I say this directly to you: kiss my thin ass.
Now, maybe TP. will refund that, Prick.
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January 27th, 2008 at 4:02 amalphainfinityomega is a a$$h0le tr0ll!!IGNORE!!
January 27th, 2008 at 6:44 pm