Olbermann: I’d Sacrifice My Personal Success For A ‘Responsible Presidency’
Olbermann: I’d Sacrifice My Personal Success For A ‘Responsible Presidency’
This morning on CNN’s Reliable Sources, Washington Post reporter Howard Kurtz interviewed Keith Olbermann, host of MSNBC’s Countdown.
Kurtz tried to press Olbermann into conceding that he is thankful for Bush’s unpopularity because his show’s success is due to his criticisms of the Bush administration. Olbermann responded that if given the choice between his current success and a new President, he would choose the latter:
KURTZ: But in a sense, the Bush administration has been very, very good for Keith Olbermann.
OLBERMANN: Honestly? No. I’m an American citizen, I think this has been a disastrous presidential administration. I would have given what I have, in terms broadcasting success in the nature of this newscast, I would have easily said…if I were given the choice of this or some responsible presidency in the last four years or eight years? I would have taken a responsible presidency.
Watch it:
Kurtz then accused Olbermann of making criticisms of Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly as an attempt to boost his ratings. “This is a clever way you get some ratings, the guy who dominates the ratings,” Kurtz said. Olbermann said that he is just trying to hold O’Reilly accountable:
KURTZ: Are you obsessed with the guy?
OLBERMANN: No. … The viewers not only enjoy this segment but expect it. Because there is a sense that if you do not answer or put on the record somewhere that O’Reilly has just denied that there are 200,000 homeless vets, if you don’t do it somehow, the lie will go to the record books.
Nobody used to say anything about O’Reilly’s “making it up as he goes along,” Olbermann argued. He later assured Kurtz that if Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) or Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) is elected President the show would “not change much.”
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Kurtz is useless.
January 27th, 2008 at 2:09 pmKurtz is a Republican lickspittle.
January 27th, 2008 at 2:09 pmHoward Putz ; another skid mark on the highway of American journalism……..
January 27th, 2008 at 2:11 pmWe all would, Keith… we all would.
January 27th, 2008 at 2:12 pmThey once asked Moe Howard of The Three Stooges a similar question about his portrayal of Hitler and the Nazis while Hitler was still popular with Prescott Bush and the other American Fascists at the time. He stated that he felt Hilter was dangerous and at the same time a comic figure, and it could very well cost The Stooges their career. It hurt Charlie Chaplin more and he same out AFTER the Stooges with his parody, but the Three Stooges went on as popular as ever. So, Olbermann should continue doing what he does, as he does so very well, and not worry he will run out of things to talk about. After all, AIPAC has their eyes on Hillary and Obama, so there should be plenty of material to talk about after one of them is elected president, and they continue the Likud Party foreign policies.
January 27th, 2008 at 2:12 pmCan you imagine it there were no Olbermann.
There would be no Main stream media outlet contering Fox’s BS.
I only wonder why there are not more like him doing something to counter the right wing noise machine.
(I mean aside from the fact that most of the Media is owned by 8 people. And they only allow just so much truth.)
January 27th, 2008 at 2:13 pmYou go Keith!!!
We have nothing to fear but the Clintons themselves.
This is an election about who we are, who we want to be. If America does not regain its can-do, we’re in it together, no man is an island spirit in its greatest traditions, it will soon fade into a shadow of its former self. Here is an analysis of the latest on the Clintons versus Obama. http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/27/14512/4399/221/444226
January 27th, 2008 at 2:14 pmkurtz is a skank. that he has the megaphone he does is a travesty and an American disgrace.
January 27th, 2008 at 2:18 pm.
Why do so many people think that bald-faced liars and spin doctors such as Bill Orally should be treated with kid gloves? I was brought up to believe that when someone lies or distorts they should be called on it in a direct and straight forward manner.
To not challenge the lies and distortions is to condone it. Olbermann is now the only “news” format show I watch. If I want other news, I go to the net, but I won’t listen to what passes for MSM news shows anymore. It is as irrelevant as are the Bushies.
January 27th, 2008 at 2:22 pmI don’t have much to add here except to expand on the well deserved criticisms of Howard Kurtz: He’s a right wing tool.
January 27th, 2008 at 2:25 pmCan you imagine it there were no Olbermann
Olbermann is a phenomenon of at most the last 3 years. Much of the heaviest damage of the bush/cheney regime was done in the first bush reign of terror. We can not only imagine no Olbermann, we lived it and will continue to live with the disasterous consequences for generations.
There can in fact be no recovery from bush destruction, the unnecessary lives lost and maimed and the massive destruction can not be undone. Only the undermining of the American values and the rule of law can be turned back over time and reparations made for the destruction.
The most potent message America could send that it has regained its sanity would be to impeach, convict, and imprison bush and cheney, and send the entire element of the first regime that lied us into invading Iraq to the Haque for war crimes trials. The opposite is also true: the failure to hold the bush regime accountable for its numerous crimes of law and crimes against humanity will also send a signal – that America is not the nation, and Americans are not the people of law, justice, and equality that we proclaim and many thought.
January 27th, 2008 at 2:27 pm.
Kurtz is a Republican lickspittle.
Comment by VerbalKint — January 27, 2008 @ 2:09 pm
Isn’t Olbermann a Liberal lickspittle?
January 27th, 2008 at 2:30 pmIsn’t Olbermann a Liberal lickspittle?
Comment by VA Voter — January 27, 2008 @ 2:30 pm
well, except for the lying and kissing up to rightwing fu(ktards and the lack of evidence that Olberman is a liberal anything, I guess, if you were stupid enough, you could say that.
but you’d be wrong.
January 27th, 2008 at 2:32 pmI would hope K.O. would hold the dems accountable as well.We should scrutinize the dems just as much as the repugs.How else can make any progress.The repugs failed to do this(scrutinize themselves) and look where it’s left us..oh…….and O’lielly deserves every bit of it.
January 27th, 2008 at 2:32 pmIsn’t Olbermann a Liberal lickspittle?
Comment by VA Voter — January 27, 2008 @ 2:30 pm
No.
Thank you for your inquiry.
January 27th, 2008 at 2:33 pmKurtz accuses Olberman of looking for easy, cheap ways to boost his ratings (by criticising Pres Bush and O’Reilly) but doesn’t dare to point out the many blunders this administration has committed or the many lies O’Reilly has told. Let alone actually take those two to task for it.
Shoot the messenger, is both Kurtz’s message and journalistic “integrity”.
January 27th, 2008 at 2:34 pmnothing like an Olberman thread or a Limpbaughlls thread to bring out the trolls…ok…lets see which one comes from the deepest part of the gene pool
January 27th, 2008 at 2:36 pmffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff http://www.newyorktimes.com
January 27th, 2008 at 2:39 pmI sacrificed Keith Olbermann because he ignored the travesty his network inflicted upon Dennis Kucinich.
Although I would take him over any other big-media pundit, I have since moved on and the Kucinich event was the catalyst that did it.
January 27th, 2008 at 2:44 pmHere’s the whole interview. Pay special attention to how the Chyron frames the interview from a right wing perspective. “Unfair to Republicans” “Pummeling O’Reilly” etc… . Also, this is the closest I’ve heard Kurtz admit inadvertently that Fox is a right wing biased network when he accuses Olbermann’s show of being a Liberal response.
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Kurtz_asks_Olbermann_about_pummeling_OReilly_0127.html
January 27th, 2008 at 2:44 pmI hope Keith’s honest when he says his show won’t change that much once Obama and/or Clinton are in the White House. The right wingers are going to freak out for sure and he’ll need to counter that, but he’ll need to lay it on the new administration as well that they will be expected to perform as advertised.
January 27th, 2008 at 2:48 pmbut the Three Stooges went on as popular as ever. So, Olbermann should continue doing what he does,
Comment by Brain From Planet Arous — January 27, 2008 @ 2:12 pm
Now that’s an appropriate comparison that I can agree with.
Comment by Gin — January 27, 2008 @ 2:29 pm
I think you are reading it incorrectly. The Three Stooges took a major risk going against the American Fascists in 1940-1942 by parodying Hitler. Moe Howard was a comedic and business genius, and as someone once said, “the First Sign of Extra-Terrestrial intelligence is a sense of humor”.
The same goes for The Marx Brothers and Firesign Theatre. They were always parodying the people who people like yourself, if I read you, think are great people.
Keith Olberman is in the same vein as Edward R Murrow. I watched LIVE on his show when he exposed and buried Joe McCarthy. My family and most of America was cheering.
January 27th, 2008 at 2:52 pmOlbermann comes closer to giving a voice to the frustrations of millions of Americans than any other person holding a microphone – media or political. While listening in disbelief to the bilge water spewed daily by the politicians, I know that I can tune in to Keith and get back a little closer to sanity and reality. Thanks, Keith, for having the guts to say what I can’t because I don’t have the venue, and most won’t because they are looking for ratings or votes. And don’t quit doing it.
January 27th, 2008 at 2:55 pmOlberman is scaring the right to pieces; that’s why the crap tactics of a tool like kurtz, a professional liar for the forces of fascism.
January 27th, 2008 at 3:00 pmIsn’t Olbermann a Liberal lickspittle?
Comment by VA Voter — January 27, 2008 @ 2:30 pm
No, he’s a truth teller, if Clinton, Obama or Edwards continues the disastrous policies of the bush administration, Olbermann will continue telling the truth.
January 27th, 2008 at 3:06 pmNow that’s an appropriate comparison that I can agree with.
Comment by Gin — January 27, 2008 @ 2:29 pm
Bill O’Reilly and the 3 Stooges?
Kind of demeaning to the Stooges, no?
January 27th, 2008 at 3:06 pmIf a democrat wins the WH you will see Jon Stewart and Olbermann go after them whenever they deserve it. They are not like right wing propaganda pushers. They really give a damn about the country, something Kurtz and his neocon paper are not interested in anymore.
Liberals love that Stewart and Olbermann are real and honest but sadly half the country no longer plays in reality. Conservtaives now thrive in a world that is 5,000 years old and where Jesus loves tax cuts, hates gays and environmentalists and where G-d wants us to look the other way as we slip more theocratic and fascist by the day.
The right will continue along eating the propaganda Rush and Sun Myung Moon feeds them. Simply put, the right has a media infrastructure DEDICATED to spewing their deceptions and the left does not have one that will simply tell the truth – so the truth doesn’t reach the masses. Robert Parry has been saying this for years but places like TP won’t acknowledge his work.
The right is now so cult like they will still try to tell you FOX is “balanced.†Today’s conservatives are so enmeshed in promoting deception – JUST LIKE CULTS – they con themselves and the nation.
As we all know, that “balanced†lie is almost as big of a deceptive as anyone thinking the Washington Times isn’t an integral part of Moon’s plan to promote his organization’s central and overriding goal. US News and World Report quoted Moon saying his goal is the “natural subjugation of the American government and population.†The first editor of the WT said bluntly the Moon organization was out to subvert our nation. The fact that some well meaning right wing extremist, unwitting tools work to help him do it, does NOT change that fact.
That is no joke yet you won’t see any MSM outlet inform the nation of this.
The left has two cable shows dedicated to the truth and both of them will be critical of a dem administration something you just never saw – when it counted – from the bootlicking Bush brigade.
Even today, after all the secrecy and lies, the majority of people on the right who speak ill of Bush do so because they think he isn’t a big enough extremist.
Face it, America is lost and it will never come back. Half the country is under control and can’t see it – they have been conditioned to a point that they NEVER will. We have allowed a cultic mind set to perpetuate which feeds blatant lies to its followers and they eat every drop because they are CONDITIONED just like a cult to do so.
The rest of the world may not know why – but they know we are lost.
In a real world Kurtz would have been saying, “I must commend you, Keith, on the fact that your show is one of the only places people can see how FOX lies to its ‘conditioned to believe lies’ following. I have to tip my hat to you for that, because this right wing extremism is not only destroying our nation – it is taking down the world. Sadly, CNN where I work has helped carry water for these people who are subverting all our nation once held dear.â€
January 27th, 2008 at 3:07 pm“Now that’s an appropriate comparison that I can agree with.”
Comment by Gin —
As is “Homer” Bush.
January 27th, 2008 at 3:07 pm“Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter.”
– Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
January 27th, 2008 at 3:10 pmKurtz tried to match wits with KO……….and came up short.KO made Kurtz look like the dumbass he is.
January 27th, 2008 at 3:11 pmOlbermann for President.
Buck Fush
January 27th, 2008 at 3:26 pmThe village elders sure hate it when they are called on their BS by a non-follower. To question Bill’O? Heaven Forbid!
On a snide note, I bet Howie Babi would not give up the last 8 years of his life for a responsible President? He thinks he already has one!!
January 27th, 2008 at 3:27 pmKurtz thinks Keith should just ignore O’Reilly since he isn’t on his network? He says this like CNN or any of the coporate newswhores EVER expose thier own lies.
That is as stupid as liberals thinking 15 years ago that people were too smart not to know Rush was lying to them. That mistake has cost us our democracy and cut our nation loose from its moorings.
So Kurtz thinks everyone should just ignore the fact that several million people are lied to – INTENTIONALLY LIED to by FOX.
Isn’t Kutz’s wife alos a Republican shill?
January 27th, 2008 at 3:31 pmInquiring minds want to know: Who is Howie Putz’s wife? Name please
January 27th, 2008 at 3:33 pmKeith Olberman, a man of integrity. George W Bush could learn a thing or two from Keith, especially when it comes to integrity and responsibility.
January 27th, 2008 at 3:40 pm“ok…lets see which one comes from the deepest part of the gene pool”
Comment by mudsharks buddy — January 27, 2008 @ 2:36 pm
There are no deep parts in that pool. Just like there are very few branches on their family tree… ;)
January 27th, 2008 at 3:43 pmKO says it all for me. He challanges these neocons, and bring out the truth. *He has made himself ‘Worst person’ when he made a mistake, and slammed Democrats as well when they screw up. My kind of man.
January 27th, 2008 at 3:44 pmBillo and the neocons, you wouldn’t make a pimple on…..nevermind.
Howard Kurtz is a putz and I am surprised that Olberman even went on his show. On the other hand, I bet Keith ran rings around him.
I firmly believe that Keith Olberman will hold the next President to account for misdeeds the same way he has held Bush to account. He has already criticized the candidates for their missteps and some of their views.
January 27th, 2008 at 3:48 pmSo Olbermann is taking the “easy” way out by investigating and asking questions (as opposed to just repeating the WH press releases and making it up as he goes along). WHAT A SLACKER !
And about O’Reilley, aren’t a lot of Olberman’s jives at O’Reilley in response to things O’Reilley says about Olberman ? So Is O’Reilley trying to boost his ratings by razzing Olberman ?
January 27th, 2008 at 3:48 pmbut the Three Stooges went on as popular as ever. So, Olbermann should continue doing what he does,
Comment by Brain From Planet Arous — January 27, 2008 @ 2:12 pm
Now that’s an appropriate comparison that I can agree with.
Comment by Gin
Wow, Gin the stooge is here. Watch out folks. She just might bite you. NOT!
January 27th, 2008 at 3:50 pmI sacrificed Keith Olbermann because he ignored the travesty his network inflicted upon Dennis Kucinich.
Although I would take him over any other big-media pundit, I have since moved on and the Kucinich event was the catalyst that did it.
Comment by espo
I have to admit that bothered me too. But, think about it. Keith does not own his show and he doesn’t own his network. He does have a boss to answer to. And since it was, essentially his boss who was dissing Kucinich, what did you expect him to do, diss his boss? Keith Olberman does not have complete freedom as to what he puts on his show. If he did, you wouldn’t hear one word about Britney Spears. Every time he reports on her he looks like he has just taken some really vile tasting medicine.
I don’t think it was Keith’s choice to not report on the Dennis Kucinich scandal.
January 27th, 2008 at 3:54 pmKurtz certainly showed his own biases in the questioning of Keith–despite he is supposedly neutral and objective.
January 27th, 2008 at 4:01 pmAre opinion shows only OK if they agree with your way of thinking?
January 27th, 2008 at 4:22 pmOlbermann’s personal success? That’s not sacrificing much.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 27, 2008 @ 4:14 pm
Riiiight… masturbastic. You keep picking up all those bottles and cans, ‘n someday…
… you’ll be a hundredaire!
January 27th, 2008 at 4:23 pmComment by VA Voter — January 27, 2008 @ 4:22 pm
To right wingers, yes…
January 27th, 2008 at 4:23 pmGin n’ Vomit
January 27th, 2008 at 4:23 pmSomewhere, Ed is smiling…
KO’s answer to Kurtz’s proof-of-shallowness “But in a sense, the Bush administration has been very, very good for Keith Olbermann” reinforced his credentials as a journalist.
Mr. Murrow, there are still some (but tragically, very few) that you’d have on your team.
January 27th, 2008 at 4:24 pmIt’s not ‘war on terror’ as this keeps the war mongers making money off of it, and an excuse to abuse it, it’s ‘Terror Defence’, like any other threat to us. Tapping my phone and email won’t stop a terrorists, the’re a little bit smarter than that. ‘Be Prepaired’…the boy scout motto has worked just fine,without building a fear wall around everyone. If we work to repair the hate the rest of the world has for us, thus, lower the threat. OK, off my soap box now.
January 27th, 2008 at 4:24 pmMurrow Had bosses to answer to also and his fights with Paley are the stuff of legend. None of these fools today have anything close to the guts Murrow had.
Comment by Gin
Gin seems to think that Olberman and O’Reilly don’t have bosses to answer to. They both do. And O’Reilly goes along and plays up to what his bosses (Faux Noise) wants him to do by lying daily. Olberman, on the other hand, often does not say the things his bosses would like him to say. To a certain extent they have given him some freedom because he is increasing their ratings. But, there is only so far they are willing to go and they were not willing to allow Olberman to speak against NBC/General Electric by talking about the Kucinich affair.
Gin doesn’t think that Olberman can hold a candle to Murrow. I’m willing to bet that she hasn’t listened to one of his special segments. If she did, her head would explode.
January 27th, 2008 at 4:25 pmTo right wingers, yes…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — January 27, 2008 @ 4:23 pm
Wouldn’t guess that from reading some of the posts.
January 27th, 2008 at 4:26 pmIt always amazes me that we are amazed in this country by honesty, integrity and truth…
January 27th, 2008 at 4:30 pmOlbermann’s personal success? That’s not sacrificing much.
Comment by CaptainMantastic
The captain loon expects us to believe that Keith Olberman has not been a personal success. I guess he doesn’t know that Mr. Olberman just signed a new four year contract with NBC:
We don’t know how much money it is worth, but it is said to be in the neighborhood of 4 million a year.
You’re right Captain, Keith Olberman is definitely not a personal success.
January 27th, 2008 at 4:31 pmhis show is one the lowest rated shows in the history of cable.
msnbc overall line-up does not match one show of O’Reilly’s
without his minor succes he would be hindered in his well documented attempts in courting porn-stars
January 27th, 2008 at 4:31 pmComment by VA Voter — January 27, 2008 @ 4:26 pm
don’t guess, know.
here endeth the lesson.
January 27th, 2008 at 4:32 pmKeith has one thing that most Republiscums lack.
Integrity.
January 27th, 2008 at 4:32 pmhis show is one the lowest rated shows in the history of cable.
msnbc overall line-up does not match one show of O’Reilly’s
without his minor succes he would be hindered in his well documented attempts in courting porn-stars
Comment by ct
Loon ct seems to think that Keith Olberman’s show is low-rated. I didn’t know that anyone paid 4 million dollars a year for a four year contract for “lowest rated shows”. Sheesh, the things you learn from loons.
January 27th, 2008 at 4:34 pmbilbobaggins probably is olberman.
January 27th, 2008 at 4:36 pmIsn’t Olbermann a Liberal lickspittle?
Comment by VA Voter — January 27, 2008 @ 2:30 pm
I have seen Olbermann take on Clinton and Obama. He calls $hit when he sees it. The only people who think Olbermann is a liberal are those who think that truth leans left. Sorry, truth is neutral. It is what it is. Stop listening to opinion and taking it as journalism. It’s reporting bias and nothing more.
Open your eyes. The truth these days is very ugly. And your darling president and his administration has damaged America for decades if not generations to come.
Are opinion shows only OK if they agree with your way of thinking?
Comment by VA Voter — January 27, 2008 @ 4:22 pm
That’s where critical thinking comes in. And research, too. No matter who you care to get your daily dose from, try thinking about it, researching what was said (and not in the 5 or 10 second snippet shown but the entire text, which is where the researching comes into play) and then make your own decisions (which is where critical thinking skills are needed). Both of these skillsets are sorely lacking in America and, apparently, you are a prime example.
January 27th, 2008 at 4:38 pmI see that “ct” is here to simply fabricate garbage. It is a clear indicator that he has absolutely no defense whatsoever for being a goose-stepping Bush supplicant.
January 27th, 2008 at 4:39 pmWouldn’t guess that from reading some of the posts.
Comment by VA Voter
I seriously suspect that loon VA Voter (why do they always try to attach themselves to the vets they abuse?) has ever watched Countdown. If he had, he would know that Keith skewers the left along with the right. He calls it as he sees it and he doesn’t hesitate to call someone on the left to task if they deserve it. Unlike the right-wing talking heads who all talk with the same voice and would never think of challenging the wrong-doing of the people on their side of the fence. The right wingers are nothing but a bunch of Borgs all linking to the mother ship. Whatever that mother ship tells them to believe, then that’s what they will believe.
January 27th, 2008 at 4:39 pmwho doesn’t like porn stars?
January 27th, 2008 at 4:39 pmThat’s where critical thinking comes in.
Comment by Ms_Joanne — January 27, 2008 @ 4:38 pm
“critical” has three syllables, and trolls don’t do three syllable words
January 27th, 2008 at 4:40 pmAnd all this time I thought that “VA” stood for Virginia.
January 27th, 2008 at 4:41 pmI see that “ct†is here to simply fabricate garbage. It is a clear indicator that he has absolutely no defense whatsoever for being a goose-stepping Bush supplicant.
Comment by VerbalKint
That’s all they can do these days. Things are so bad for them they have to make up garbage to try and get back that feeling of importance. That’s why I won’t directly engage with them any longer. I don’t want to validate them by talking to them directly. I now talk about them, not to them. It’s rather empowering.
January 27th, 2008 at 4:42 pmbilbobaggins probably is olberman.
Comment by ct
Wow, I think that’s about the best compliment I have ever had. Thanks loon. I would be honored to be associated with Keith Olbermann.
January 27th, 2008 at 4:43 pmOk, I’m taking a poll here. How old to you think CT is? My bet is 12.
January 27th, 2008 at 4:44 pmOlbermann would be a big success regardless of President Bush. On top of being a political junkie I’m a sports nut and I loved ESPN’s Sports Center when Keith and Dan Patrick were the featured hosts. Viva la Irreverence!
January 27th, 2008 at 4:47 pmCNN has no crediblity whatsoever. Zero, zilch.
Howard Kurtz has his head so far up Bush’s ass….and HE is suppose to be a media watchdog.
BULLSHIT.
January 27th, 2008 at 4:49 pmComment by Ms_Joanne — January 27, 2008 @ 4:38 pm
I have seen right leaning opinion shows go after republicans. Nothing wrong with opinion shows. As long as they admit to the bias. If you watch Glenn Beck and/or John Gibson they admit that they are conservative. The same can be said about the host on Air America. They admit to being left leaning. I respect that.
If you can’t see that Olbermann is left leaning then I’m sorry you observation skills are so lacking. I would have more respect for Olbermann if he admitted that is is a Liberal.
You assume me of getting all my news from one location. If that were the case then why would I be on this site. I do my homework. All you know about me is that I live in VA and I Vote. You may have missed that with the level of observation skills you have.
January 27th, 2008 at 4:50 pmI seriously suspect that loon VA Voter (why do they always try to attach themselves to the vets they abuse?)
VA is a state. Google Virginia.
January 27th, 2008 at 4:52 pm#47: Are opinion shows only OK if they agree with your way of thinking?
Comment by VA Voter — January 27, 2008 @ 4:22 pm
You really aren’t bright enough to see the difference are you VA?? If O’Reilly’s blatherings weren’t so chock full of lies, I might be inclined to call them “opinions” and cede you the point. But since the Big-head, asshat, Falafel King can’t open his mouth without outright lying about every subject he expounds upon, he automatically forfeits any assumed right to call his show an “opinion” show. Olbermann is simply calling out O’Reilly and Fox on their lies and D.C. cocktail circuit hacks like Howie “RNC spoon-fed” Kurtz hate it when someone like Olbermann dares pull back the curtain revealing the chicanery of the MSM and the damage they have and are doing to America and Democracy.
Any more dumb questions you’d like me to kick to the curb for you VA?
January 27th, 2008 at 4:53 pmKurtz is pathetic. He’s the Republicans’ useful idiot.
January 27th, 2008 at 4:54 pmComment by Ms_Joanne — January 27, 2008 @ 4:38 pm
I have seen right leaning opinion shows go after republicans. Nothing wrong with opinion shows. As long as they admit to the bias. If you watch Glenn Beck and/or John Gibson they admit that they are conservative. The same can be said about the host on Air America. They admit to being left leaning. I respect that.
If you can’t see that Olbermann is left leaning then I’m sorry you observation skills are so lacking. I would have more respect for Olbermann if he admitted that is is a Liberal.
You assume me of getting all my news from one location. If that were the case then why would I be on this site. I do my homework. All you know about me is that I live in VA and I Vote. You may have missed that with the level of observation skills you have.
Comment by VA Voter — January 27, 2008 @ 4:50 pm
January 27th, 2008 at 4:55 pmBecause an anonymous poster on an internet web site has how much credibility ?
And I’m sure Olbermann will survive your lack of respect for him , skid mark………
Isn’t Olbermann a Liberal lickspittle?
Comment by VA Voter — January 27, 2008 @ 2:30 pm
Mr P?
Olbermann said a responsible presidency and did not mention party.
January 27th, 2008 at 4:56 pmComment by VA Voter — January 27, 2008 @ 4:50 pm
Can we also assume that you are a “fair” tax loon?
January 27th, 2008 at 4:58 pmBecause an anonymous poster on an internet web site has how much credibility ?
And I’m sure Olbermann will survive your lack of respect for him , skid mark………
Comment by MCMetal — January 27, 2008 @ 4:55 pm
I’m not looking for credibility. I’m expressing my opinion on the subject at hand.
I do think it’s funny that you dismiss me as an anonymous poster on a website. Am I the pot or the kettle?
January 27th, 2008 at 4:58 pmDoes that somehow make Limbaugh credible?
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 27, 2008 @ 4:56 pm
Makes him a wealthy addict!
January 27th, 2008 at 4:58 pmCan we also assume that you are a “fair†tax loon?
Comment by dbadass — January 27, 2008 @ 4:58 pm
I have done my homework on the fair tax and think it’s a good idea. Have you doe your homework?
January 27th, 2008 at 4:59 pm“We don’t know how much money it is worth, but it is said to be in the neighborhood of 4 million a year.â€
Well, while we are considering relative success, here’s what Rush Limbaugh makes:
Salary: Signed a $250 million contract in 2001 that runs through 2009. Got a $35 million signing bonus.
Here’s the source:
http://www.usatoday.com/ sports/ football/ nfl/ 2003-10-02-limbaugh-controversy_x.htm
Does that somehow make Limbaugh credible?
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 27, 2008 @ 4:56 pm
Does Britney Spears making ridiculous amounts of cash at one point in her life make her better than Led Zeppelin ?
Fat Bastard Limpballs is the opinion-show equivalent of Spears as a ’singer’ ; there’s a tremendous difference between being popular , and being good.Fat Bastard Limpballs is popular with you simplistic type of brainless cretins , CrapstainManEater
January 27th, 2008 at 4:59 pmI have seen right leaning opinion shows go after republicans.
Comment by VA Voter
I don’t normally address loons directly, but I am breaking that stance. OK VA – show me one right wing show that goes after Republicans. Name one and name the Republican they went after.
January 27th, 2008 at 5:00 pmComment by VA Voter — January 27, 2008 @ 4:59 pm
Yes I have “doed” it and I think it is a dumb idea but to each their own
January 27th, 2008 at 5:02 pmDoes that somehow make Limbaugh credible?
Comment by CaptainMantastic
Captain thinks that Limpballs making lots of money makes him credible. Unfortunately that doesn’t wash. The mention of how much Keith makes was made regarding a right wing loon saying that he was not a success and that his show was the lowest rated on cable. I was showing that to be a lie.
I really don’t care how much Limpballs makes, it will never make him credible with any thinking adult. The 24%ers who need an authority figure to tell them what to think and how to feel are Limpball’s audience. And both Limpball and O’Reilly are going to be in trouble soon because their audience is dying off.
January 27th, 2008 at 5:02 pmBecause an anonymous poster on an internet web site has how much credibility ?
And I’m sure Olbermann will survive your lack of respect for him , skid mark………
Comment by MCMetal — January 27, 2008 @ 4:55 pm
I’m not looking for credibility. I’m expressing my opinion on the subject at hand.
I do think it’s funny that you dismiss me as an anonymous poster on a website. Am I the pot or the kettle?
Comment by VA Voter — January 27, 2008 @ 4:58 pm
I made no judgement on you ; but as I stated , you claim you have no respect for Olbermann .
And you are ?
BTW
You give imbeciles like Gibson and Glen Speckofshit a pass because of their admitting to whatever political leaning(s) ; does the fact they lie about almost everything else make you realize what a colossal ignoramus you are ?
January 27th, 2008 at 5:04 pmYou sound angry. :(
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 27, 2008 @ 5:03 pm
And you sound typically GOP stupid
January 27th, 2008 at 5:04 pmI do think it’s funny that you dismiss me as an anonymous poster on a website. Am I the pot or the kettle?
Comment by VA Voter
Both
January 27th, 2008 at 5:05 pmKO is something that OBiley and the rest of the Faux Snooze wannabes aren’t.
A journalist.
Member of the Fourth Estate.
Doing his/their job…
January 27th, 2008 at 5:07 pmHave you doe your homework?
Comment by VA Voter — January 27, 2008 @ 4:59 pm
My deer ate mine…
January 27th, 2008 at 5:08 pmThe conservative movement is D E A D.
Who helped to kill it? Limbaugh.
So why is he still blaming others for the mess he helped to create?
Did government get smaller? Did you get more rights? Did you get fiscally responsible leaders? Did you get cheaper gas? Cheaper food? Did the dollars value rise? Did inflation drop?
No, no, no, no, no and no.
January 27th, 2008 at 5:09 pmOlberman is pretty good, when his is on the air with JOe Scarborough. When he is on the air with Matthews or Russert he just gushes with admiration and diminishes himself.
January 27th, 2008 at 5:10 pmOhg
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/01/26/matthews-and-russert-laurel-and-hardy/
Xis ~ Did the rich get richer?, the poor get poorer? Did the environment get more and more polluted? Yes and Yes and Yes, and that is all about to end 01/20/09.
January 27th, 2008 at 5:11 pmPersonal success is not defined solely by how much money someone makes, although many Republicans seem to believe so according to their twisted values. Rush Limbaugh is a four-time divorced drug addict who flies to third world countries to engage in sex with prostitutes. That doesn’t sound successful to me. It sounds pathetic and deviant. But Republicans are notoriously accommodating towards sexual perverts within their clan.
January 27th, 2008 at 5:11 pm#97 Excellent points, not one of which cowards like VA Voter will address.
January 27th, 2008 at 5:13 pmHere is your homework, VA Voter:
http://www.dems.gov/index.asp?Type=B_PR&SEC={D68CD0B2-1442-4804-9F6B-AF67DE7FF585}&DE={FDD09C4F-E958-4E13-A92B-179C2FAC6FEA}&Design=PrintView
Don’t come back until you are done studying and ready to discuss the abject failures of your party and its leaders.
January 27th, 2008 at 5:14 pmVK ~ the typical repuglycan attitude continues to be
‘I got mine, fu(k everybody else, including my children and their children’…
January 27th, 2008 at 5:14 pmXis ~ Did the rich get richer?, the poor get poorer? Did the environment get more and more polluted? Yes and Yes and Yes, and that is all about to end 01/20/09. -RUC
Well, they got a tax cut but I dont think it made up for how much their dollars devalued.
January 27th, 2008 at 5:15 pmCompared to Limbaugh, Olbermann isn’t much of a success.
Comment by CaptainMantastic
You determine success by the amount of Fiat, paper IOU’s that one holds?
Rush could never make it on TV debating the smart folks so thats why hes on radio filtering his calls.
January 27th, 2008 at 5:17 pmI don’t normally address loons directly, but I am breaking that stance. OK VA – show me one right wing show that goes after Republicans. Name one and name the Republican they went after.
Comment by bilbobaggins — January 27, 2008 @ 5:00 pm
Sorry I didn’t answer right away. I am at work doing a job.
Most of the opinion shows are anti McCain.
January 27th, 2008 at 5:20 pm“Captain thinks that Limpballs making lots of money makes him credible.â€
bilbo.
My point was that Olbermann wasn’t much of a success. You brought up the 4 million dollars to make the case that he was. For comparasion, I pulled out the Limbaugh numbers.
Compared to Limbaugh, Olbermann isn’t much of a success.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 27, 2008 @ 5:14 pm
Olbermann isn’t obscenely and grotesquely overweight ; and Rushestoeat’s appearance is made even more disgusting by his constant litany of outright lies.
Olbermann is an articulate man ; Fat Bastard Limpballs resembles your imbecilic hero Chimpy’s public speaking inabilities.
Limpballs is a stupid , fat , pill-popping , drug-addicted hypocrite who travels abroad to have sex with children ; figures a GOP/Chimpy ball monger like yourself would view that as “successful”………
January 27th, 2008 at 5:21 pmI don’t normally address loons directly, but I am breaking that stance. OK VA – show me one right wing show that goes after Republicans. Name one and name the Republican they went after.
Comment by bilbobaggins — January 27, 2008 @ 5:00 pm
Sorry I didn’t answer right away. I am at work doing a job.
Most of the opinion shows are anti McCain.
Comment by VA Voter — January 27, 2008 @ 5:20 pm
Who in their right mind isn’t ?
Frankenstein McLame is a pathetic, pandering , senile , stupid old man………
January 27th, 2008 at 5:22 pmComment by VA Voter — January 27, 2008 @ 5:20 pm
Why are you still posting? Why aren’t you studying the chart that demonstrates irrefutably the spectacular failure of your party and its leaders? Why do you keep polluting this site with diversions? Study the chart, then come back here and justify your beliefs to the rest of us.
January 27th, 2008 at 5:23 pmRush came along at just the right time, which has an enormous (huge, giant, fat) amount to do with his success. He filled (stuffed, engorged, crammed) an entertainment niche by telling the wingnuts exactly what they wanted to hear, validating their ignorance and bigotry and, initially, he had no competition for those potential dittoheads. Comparing Rush to anyone else in a similar role is absurd; if he had to launch his career today, he’d probably be broadcasting on some teeny radio station in New Mexico, with Bigfoot as his entire audience.
January 27th, 2008 at 5:24 pmWell, I can see that VA Voter can’t handle the truth. Typical.
January 27th, 2008 at 5:25 pmI don’t normally address loons directly, but I am breaking that stance. OK VA – show me one right wing show that goes after Republicans. Name one and name the Republican they went after.
Comment by bilbobaggins — January 27, 2008 @ 5:00 pm
Sorry I didn’t answer right away. I am at work doing a job.
Most of the opinion shows are anti McCain.
Comment by VA Voter — January 27, 2008 @ 5:20 pm
On a Sunday evening at 5:30 ?
Sweeping the hallways of the grade school in your area are ya’ , Mr Janitor ?
January 27th, 2008 at 5:27 pm“…broadcasting on some teeny radio station in New Mexico, with Bigfoot as his entire audience.”
Comment by gummitch
And we’re jammin’ Bigpoot’s signal, pounding on the drums………….
January 27th, 2008 at 5:29 pmI am at work doing a job.
Comment by VA Voter — January 27, 2008 @ 5:20 pm
Yeah, frantically thumbing through your RNC-issued troll script looking for a way to answer that chart showing how utterly miserable Bush’s performance has been these past seven years.
January 27th, 2008 at 5:31 pmYeah, frantically thumbing through your RNC-issued troll script looking for a way to answer that chart showing how utterly miserable Bush’s performance has been these past seven years.
Comment by VerbalKint — January 27, 2008 @ 5:31 pm
Dream on. You’re never getting a factual response to that chart from one of our trolls.
January 27th, 2008 at 5:32 pmWhen Colbert told the TRUTH to the little PUNK Bush at the White House correspondents’ dinner, Bush’s face was so RED with ANGER.
Comment by Arn Gunnutes — January 27, 2008 @ 5:29 pm
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Steven Colbert should have won an award for that routine. Bravo, Colbert! Bravo!!
January 27th, 2008 at 5:34 pmOur problem is not that Olbermann is bad, or that we have too much Olbermann countering the filth that O’Reilly flings around, but that we have a lazy, irresponsible corporate-owned media that does damned little of what makes Olbermann dynamic, soulful, intelligent and correct.
January 27th, 2008 at 5:46 pmKurz’s show is one of the most dishonest on TV. While he claims to be unbiased he has that right wing crazy Mary Ellen Ham? from the Republican Blog TownHall.com that has links to FOXNoise and Anne Coulter, as an analyst to comment on a DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY. You never see Katarina VanderHeuval from the Nation, being invited to an analyst to comment on a Republican Primary. She beat up on the Clintons the same way her rag does.
Now for Gin (post 45) linking O’Reilley and Olberman in reference to Edward R Murrow is really ridiculous. O’Reilly is a fabulists egomaniac who was never a serious journalists as to Keith.
Now I, like everyone else ,honors Murrow for standing up to Joe McCarthy, but lets be honest. His political commentaries on TV were often terse and pedestrian. He spent a lot more time interviewing celebraties than delivering much hard hitting political commentary. It could have been because of time or management constraints, but the truth is that his TV commentary -as opposed to his print or radio work- can’t hold a candle to Olbermann’s personal commentary in terms of writing and analysis. In this medium Murrow was Home Run Baker to Keith’s Babe Ruth.
January 27th, 2008 at 5:46 pmI’m not sure why there’s any controversy over this. Olbermann is certainly entitled to his opinion.
It’s not as if “Countdown” is a news broadcast. It’s essentially DailyKosTV (ironically, he now regularly blogs for them), not some kind of objective journalistic program.
Much ado about nothing.
January 27th, 2008 at 5:47 pmOLBERMANN would make a great press secretary for the Obama administration.
January 27th, 2008 at 5:58 pmI’m not sure why there’s any controversy over this. Olbermann is certainly entitled to his opinion.
It’s not as if “Countdown†is a news broadcast. It’s essentially DailyKosTV (ironically, he now regularly blogs for them), not some kind of objective journalistic program.
Much ado about nothing.
Comment by Mac the Blogger — January 27, 2008 @ 5:47 pm
Agreed.
January 27th, 2008 at 6:00 pmCompared to Limbaugh, Olbermann isn’t much of a success.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 27, 2008 @ 5:14 pm
And yet compared to masturbastic, Olbermann is a huge success…
Who’d a-thunk it? Go figger…
January 27th, 2008 at 6:01 pmAgreed.
Comment by VA Voter — January 27, 2008 @ 6:00 pm
Of course, you and Mac’s presences here begs the question, “why do you both feel compelled to come here and comment on it, then?”
January 27th, 2008 at 6:03 pmhttp://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/02/scaife200802
Richard Mellon Scaife, billionaire bankroller of conservative crusades, spent heavily to expose Bill Clinton’s “Troopergate†misbehavior. Now Scaife’s divorce from his second wife, Ritchie, is providing another unsavory saga—adultery! addiction! assault! dognapping!?!—as both parties let loose to V.F.
January 27th, 2008 at 6:03 pmThe measure of Olbermann’s success can be calculated by the number of bed-wetting right wingnut trolls any blog that discusses him attracts. Judging from this thread, he’s doing pretty well.
January 27th, 2008 at 6:04 pmI am at work doing a job.
Comment by VA Voter
I think that makes scents…………
January 27th, 2008 at 6:04 pmJudging from this thread, he’s doing pretty well.
Comment by Snowball — January 27, 2008 @ 6:04 pm
Yep…
January 27th, 2008 at 6:09 pmBy matter of contrast, how many Left wingers show up at Conservative blogs to trash their heroes Lintball and O’Really? None, how is that? I guess they’re just not very successful. Oh, and doesn’t O’Really claim to be an Independent?
January 27th, 2008 at 6:09 pmSorry I didn’t answer right away. I am at work doing a job.
Most of the opinion shows are anti McCain.
Comment by VA Voter — January 27, 2008 @ 5:20 pm
There’s the right wing personal responsibility and work ethic for you. Trolling the Internet on company time. Every Republican I’ve ever worked with could be depended upon for displaying gross incompetence, shirking their duties, taking credit for other peoples work and generating a disruptive and unproductive work environment. That’s what it’s like working with people who have the cognitive development of spoiled, be-wetting three year olds.
January 27th, 2008 at 6:16 pmCompared to Limbaugh, Olbermann isn’t much of a success.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 27, 2008 @ 5:14 pm
OK, I will use a music sales analogy to that. Britney Spears and 50 Cent SELL MORE than King Crimson or Herbie Hancock.
Who are the more talented musicians? I know….I know…..That is a Tough question.
Oh, BTW, Spears and Cent are BIG Bush supporters.
January 27th, 2008 at 6:20 pmKurtz is another Dubya Bush leg humping cheerleader of the crime family. He is one of the problems with the so called mainstream media.
January 27th, 2008 at 6:21 pmGuys re: the trolls, an old saying comes to mind, don’t wrestle with the pig in the mud. The pig loves it and everyone gets dirty.
January 27th, 2008 at 6:21 pmGuys re: the trolls, an old saying comes to mind, don’t wrestle with the pig in the mud. The pig loves it and everyone gets dirty.
Comment by tnrc75 — January 27, 2008 @ 6:21 pm
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January 27th, 2008 at 6:24 pmLimbaugh is a success the same way Al Capone was a success.
And deserves the same respect.
January 27th, 2008 at 6:24 pmKeith is a success just by the fact the leg humpers go crazy everytime he is mentioned on one of the blogs. They go ape sh!t knowing that someone has blown their cover. Wingers are nothing but the bottom feeding, knuckle dragging, troglodyte, losers of the United States. Look at their heroes…Dubya, Cheney, Limpdick, O’Really, et al. Nothing but liars, crooks, and morons.
January 27th, 2008 at 6:25 pmSorry I didn’t answer right away. I am at work doing a job.
She’d better make sure she gets her $10 first…
January 27th, 2008 at 6:29 pmKurtz has got his nose buried so far up his “Reliable Sources” he wouldn’t know how to be objective. He IS the problem he claims to expose.
Keith is worth 100+ of him.
Happy Birthday, Keith!!
January 27th, 2008 at 6:39 pmThat statement is consistent with his kamekazi behaviour towards the Bush Administration in particular, and Republicans in general (although he does hammer Dems for not attacking Reps more). He would follow his buddy Dan Rather down the toilet to undermine the current administration.
The ironic thing is, Keith has no personal success. Major Garrett had it right – Olberman is a fool, and the farthest thing from a journalist. He may enjoy his 5 minutes of fame, being used by nutrooters to advance their agenda, but he needs to realize that he will be thrown under the bus the moment he doesn’t support the nutrooters at any point in the future.
January 27th, 2008 at 6:40 pmWhat’s a nutrooter, Jason?
January 27th, 2008 at 6:43 pmJason is also a leg humping moron who cannot distinguish between truth and lies. 28% is still the number of morons who defend the reichwing thugs in the crime family.
January 27th, 2008 at 6:46 pmHendler, you just keep on keepin, being absolutely wrong.
January 27th, 2008 at 6:46 pmYou’re beginning to get a Kristol type reputation for wrongitivity.
I sense that if Hillary or Barack falsely claimed there were only a few, not many, homeless vets that KO would kick their butts as well.
January 27th, 2008 at 6:49 pmJason ManHandler has gotten over his shame of the last time he was man-handled on the TP boards?
He must have either a good therapist or a short memory. Given that he’s a Chimpy leg-humper, I’m guessing it’s the latter.
January 27th, 2008 at 6:50 pmThe ironic thing is, Keith [...] at any point in the future.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — January 27, 2008 @ 6:40 pm
Wow! Talk about delusions of grandeur… your problems are a lot worse than I had ever imagined, Hendler.
BTW, seeing as yer a **cough** “Stanford grad”, what’s a “nutrooter”… howzabout a nice, exact, meaningful definition?
January 27th, 2008 at 7:07 pmI cant believe Hendler is talking about undermining the administration when the administration undermined the conservative movement.
January 27th, 2008 at 7:10 pmI cant believe Hendler is talking about undermining the administration when the administration undermined the conservative movement.
Comment by Xisithrus — January 27, 2008 @ 7:10 pm
Jason is prolly off ’self-medicating”… clearly, he’s doing SOMETHING strong, or I have no idea how to explain his “opinions” today.
January 27th, 2008 at 7:13 pmCompared to Limbaugh, Olbermann isn’t much of a success.
Comment by CaptainMantastic
Captain, like most other selfish, self-centered neoCONs measures success in terms of money. And that has a lot to do with the mess this country is in today. Personally I equate success with how well you relate to people, help other people, and give people something to care about. That’s a concept that is unknown to people like Captain and his ilk. I pity Captain and his ilk.
January 27th, 2008 at 7:17 pmI don’t understand the need to attack Olbermann. If you don’t think that much about him, ignore him. Like someone on here said earlier, the right wing spends more time on left wing blogs than the other way around. Maybe because they charge their people.
January 27th, 2008 at 7:26 pmNot sure how it is I “trashed” Olbermann. I said he has a right to an opinion, and that this is much ado about nothing.
Goodness, folks are sensitive here.
January 27th, 2008 at 7:36 pmJust like Keith, we feel responsible to not let the inaccuracies go unanswered.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 27, 2008 @ 7:23 pm
it’s good of you to bring up your side’s inaccuracies.
January 27th, 2008 at 7:41 pmMaybe because they charge their people.
Comment by JustPlainTired — January 27, 2008 @ 7:26 pm
And convict them, from what I’ve seen.
January 27th, 2008 at 7:42 pmJason Hitler is at it again? wow, after the last smackdown you’d think he’d learn his lesson. Nothing like the brainless meanderings of the wingnut fruitcakes on a progressive site for sheer amusement.
The ironic thing is, Jason has no personal success, whatsoever. The respect of his audience and the millions of dollars Olberman earns are no sign of success, even for a loser like Jason. And he quotes another unknown loser to try to make the point!
January 27th, 2008 at 7:46 pmActually, for all their endless blather about left wing “fascism”, prolly the biggest reason the righties spend so much time here is that they’re ALLOWED to come here and post.
Any of us go to, oh say, Free Republic or LGF and dare to disagree w/ the current orthodoxy, we’re immediately banned.
Geez, who’s being intolerant here?
January 27th, 2008 at 7:50 pmAnd he quotes another unknown loser to try to make the point!
Comment by Lefty Patriot — January 27, 2008 @ 7:46 pm
I noticed that too, Lefty. I thought that was very funny.
January 27th, 2008 at 7:51 pmOlbermann is the voice of truth today. He lambasts Bush, the Right wing hate mongers, and other deserving targets, but he also jabs Democrats for their boneheadedness also.
January 27th, 2008 at 7:59 pmI fully expect that Keith will air the truth in the Democratic administration next year. I don’t think he will have as much material, though.
If the msm were living up to their mission as the fourth estate, and actually investigated and challenged the newsmakers, Keith would not be so alone out there .
Oh darn — I got here after the trolls did, so I don’t know if anyone will actually read this, but here’s my take:
Following Kurtz’s logic, the right-wing talking heads (Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Coulter, Savage, Malkin, Gibson, etc.) should have all packed it in when Dubya got elected. After all, their popularity had been largely due to being able to kick Clinton around — right? So when their team got the White House, both houses of Congress, and the SCOTUS, what was left for them to be outraged at?
Well, for the past seven years, they have still been railing at the “evil liberals” who are responsible for everything bad in this country. Even if they have to make stuff up, this is their song and dance and they’re sticking to it.
Of course, Olbermann won’t have to make anything up. If there truly are no outrages left in the world, I predict he’ll be happy to retire. I also predict that if a Democratic president runs the office the way Bushco has, he won’t pull any punches.
January 27th, 2008 at 8:12 pmAnd I have no doubt Olbermann will gladly blast Dems and the left if and when they do the same sort of corrupt, bone-headed nonsense Brusch and the GOOP have been pulling the last 7 yrs, Marie.
There’s left, there’s right, and there’s WRONG… and there’s HONEST.
January 27th, 2008 at 8:12 pmI also predict that if a Democratic president runs the office the way Bushco has, he won’t pull any punches.
Comment by missmolly — January 27, 2008 @ 8:12 pm
Neither will I. I expect nothing less than a return of rule of law. And immediate repeal of those laws that have stripped our constitutionally guaranteed rights. Habeus Corpus must be restored to its pre-Bush status. No more warrantless sweeping net over the whole internet and phone networks.
If the Democrats don’t restore our rights, and Try/jail the lawbreakers, then they are just as guilty in my mind.
January 27th, 2008 at 8:22 pmComment by Lefty Patriot — January 27, 2008 @ 7:46 pm
Is Jackass Moron Hitler back again? The Racist from Melbourne, FL? The shithead that claims Stanford is an Ivy League school? The useless American??
Haahahaaa, hahahha, hhahahaaaaa!!!!!
January 27th, 2008 at 8:24 pmJackass Moron Hitler never quits being…
Stupid….
Arrogant….
Racist….
RePugniScum…
Useless…
Did I mention STUPID, USELESS, REPUGNISCUM, RACIST, ARROGANT PHUCKWAD?
January 27th, 2008 at 8:30 pmJust like Keith, we feel responsible to not let the inaccuracies go unanswered.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 27, 2008 @ 7:23 pm
January 27th, 2008 at 8:31 pmThen make an entire list of Chimpy’s horseshit presidency ; that should keep all you GOP nut huggers busy for weeks …………….
To add to my previous post:
January 27th, 2008 at 8:32 pmI do not want to hear the old lame-ass Watergate Era excuse when everyone, but a few scapegoats got off, of “We must move on” or some crap”.
If the Democrats screw us over, it may be time to dissolve the current government, that is violating its contract with the People. I will be pushing for a new Constitutional Convention, is still a Constitutional right that they have not yet stripped.
There’s left, there’s right, and there’s WRONG… and there’s HONEST.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — January 27, 2008 @ 8:12 pm
Well said, TRoS.
January 27th, 2008 at 8:37 pmThere’s left, there’s right, and there’s WRONG… and there’s HONEST.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — January 27, 2008 @ 8:12 pm
Well said, TRoS.
Comment by Zooey — January 27, 2008 @ 8:37 pm
And I’ll third that
Lets hear it for honesty. A politician’s worst enemy.
January 27th, 2008 at 8:40 pmAnd isn’t that the main purpose of the Fourth Estate? To act as a watchdog for the people, to ask the tough questions, to ferret out corruption and waste and hold government accountable?
Sounds like he’s doing his job, to me.
January 27th, 2008 at 8:51 pmOh, and as far as Koward Hurtz goes, not a journalist, just a bootlicking MSM toady…
January 27th, 2008 at 8:55 pmLast year, ex-FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds offered to break her gag order and tell all to U.S. media, no takers.
KO received email from any number of us who’ve followed her story. Some of it is now at TimesOnLine and various U.S. blogs and alternate news sites. The response from KO was *crickets* … guess his corporate minders didn’t want him to play.
Daniel Ellsberg says Sibel’s story is “bigger than the Pentagon Papers”. That’s good enough for me.
January 27th, 2008 at 8:58 pmDaniel Ellsberg says Sibel’s story is “bigger than the Pentagon Papersâ€. That’s good enough for me.
Comment by US2oz — January 27, 2008 @ 8:58 pm
London Times ran the story, American media? nada
Like the American media not reporting the mess Afghanistan has become. Censorship is here, now, alive and well.
Censor the news
January 27th, 2008 at 9:06 pmCensor the debates
Censor the elections
OLBERMANN=HATE, O’REILLY = COMMON MAN AND COMMON SENSE
January 27th, 2008 at 9:11 pmOLBERMANN=HATE, O’REILLY = COMMON MAN AND COMMON SENSE
Comment by monahan_80 — January 27, 2008 @ 9:11 pm
January 27th, 2008 at 9:14 pmIt wasn’t that photo …….This actually proves there’s life on Mars
bilbo, if you’re going to take pity on me, sounds like you better save some for yourself.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 27, 2008 @ 8:31 pm
lookslike olberman is a success even by your terms, cap’n. Oh, well, when you lose, you lose it all.
say hi to mahan 80, another deluded loser who will wonder where it all went after next year.
January 27th, 2008 at 9:19 pmchortle.
you need to get out more, monohand.
January 27th, 2008 at 9:19 pmOLBERMANN=HATE, O’REILLY = COMMON MAN AND COMMON SENSE
Comment by monahan_80 — January 27, 2008 @ 9:11 pm
And monahan_80 is a great orator…………on Bizarro World…………and abides by the Bizarro Code:
1. US DO OPPOSITE OF ALL EARTHLY THINGS!
2. US HATE BEAUTY! US LOVE UGLINESS!
3. IS BIG CRIME TO MAKE ANYTHING PERFECT ON BIZARRO WORLD!
January 27th, 2008 at 9:22 pmOLBERMANN=HATE, O’REILLY = COMMON MAN AND COMMON SENSE
Comment by monahan_80 — January 27, 2008 @ 9:11 pm
Whatever.
It’s true that Bill O. invites the opposition to his show, but he then tells them that they are wrong, they need to shut up, and then sometimes cuts their mike.
January 27th, 2008 at 9:29 pmThis monahan_80 character must be some sort of Freeper comic…
Too bad the 1/2 Hr News hr is already off the air… gee, how did that happen, and so quickly?
January 27th, 2008 at 9:42 pmThis monahan_80 character must be some sort of Freeper comic…
Too bad the 1/2 Hr News hr is already off the air… gee, how did that happen, and so quickly?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — January 27, 2008 @ 9:42 pm
I go to Freerepublic and post as a conservative (I won’t tell you my name there), and it is hilarious watching them explain their insanity and Weewee-Fascism to me, as they think I am a former liberal who can’t stand progressives and find more truth in the Conservative POV.
January 27th, 2008 at 9:46 pmanyone who thinks O’Lielly has more talent than Olberman…….only watches O’Lielly…simple as that.Olberman has more intelligence and integrity in his little finger,than O’Lielly has in the big fat head full of mush. but just reading some of the comments saying Billo is better…just make me want to laugh…….hehehehe…LOL……they really are funny.
January 27th, 2008 at 9:47 pm#184…I’ve done that too……….it’s hilarious.The only difference is I say I’m a lifelong republican…leaving the party……so much fun …hehehehehehe.
January 27th, 2008 at 9:50 pmHey Look everybody….Bert finally put together a sentence…lets all give him a round of applause
January 27th, 2008 at 9:53 pmI don’t doubt that you have a point, I just wish you were coherent enough that others could understand what you trying to say.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — January 27, 2008 @ 9:47 pm
Captain, I understand what he is saying, and believe it or not, I understand your point of view. It is a shame that people can’t simply see the more logical mode of operation and ideas, be it from the left or right, instead of punching each other.
Logic and compassion are all there is in the real world, and anything else is simply unreal. Ego stands in the way of many the right choices.
January 27th, 2008 at 9:54 pmQuite hilarious how these trolls take a dump here, call names, then vanish into their howling night.
January 27th, 2008 at 10:11 pmHey Look everybody….Bert finally put together a sentence…lets all give him a round of applause
Comment by mudsharks buddy — January 27, 2008 @ 9:53 pm
I guess Bert is askeert of girls and Keith.
No wonder he smells like pee.
January 27th, 2008 at 10:13 pmwow……bert has almost 1900 hits on his blog……..hittin it big I see.That is the sorriest excuse for a political blog I have ever seen..hey Bert….don’t forget all the republican sex scandals….you know….to balance it out.
January 27th, 2008 at 10:14 pmZooey…ya never know….he could be into golden showers…..he is a republican! LOL
January 27th, 2008 at 10:16 pmOH WAIT!…….that would send him to hell………nevermind
January 27th, 2008 at 10:16 pmOH WAIT!…….that would send him to hell………nevermind
Comment by mudsharks buddy — January 27, 2008 @ 10:16 pm
That ninth commandment clause is gonna get him anyway.
January 27th, 2008 at 10:21 pmThat ninth commandment clause is gonna get him anyway.
Comment by Wayne — January 27, 2008 @ 10:21 pm
Which one is that? I’m trying to break them all….except the killing one. :D
January 27th, 2008 at 10:24 pmwhich one would that be?….it’s not the one about killing,nor is it the one about stealing or stealing your neighbors wife for that matter….must be the one about having sex with barnyard animals…..yup…..that must be the one alright.
January 27th, 2008 at 10:26 pmnaw….I think waynes comment is refering to……bearing false witness…….hey…I’m a recovering catholic……what can I say……it’s not easy being off of Irish people…….but we sure as hell love to have a good time….woooohOooooo…..damn…..no beer.
January 27th, 2008 at 10:34 pmat anyrate…..Buenos Noches…………Olberman kicks ass.
January 27th, 2008 at 10:35 pmI’m sorry I missed the interview with Keith. Keith has been an incredibly valuable source of what is almost non-existant on main stream media…truth. I’ve noticed that he tells it like it is, whether he is talking about liberals or conservatives, or the extreme of either.
Can you imagine America if we truly had television networks who were not owned by the large corporations who have been in the pockets of the Bush Administration? What if we actually heard the truth all of the time? Wouldn’t it be great? You would actually have stories on CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, and, alas, even Faux news…those stories would be about the Bush Administration lying us into the war in Iraq. Those stories would contain information about so many of the great documentaries that have been done – from “Sicko” to “No End In Sight”.
If the media had been doing their job, the really tough questions would have been asked that may have had the effect of preventing the travesty that is Iraq. Iraqi lives may have been spared and nearly 4,000 American lives could have been spared as well as countless other of our courageous military who will suffer lifetimes as a result of injuries sustained while in Iraq.
I became frustrated over hearing again and again (before the war), Rumsfeld and Cheney saying they knew Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and they knew where they were! There were still inspectors on the ground and I wanted them to be asked if they knew where they were why they weren’t telling the inspectors.
Had we had media doing what they are supposed to do with public air ways, (informing the public), we would have heard what we needed to hear. In addition, we would have heard all of the stories about the illegal wiretapping of Americans under George. We would have heard about all the Bush signing statements. We would have heard more about the Pat Tillman coverup. We would have heard about Rumsfeld exposing the individual who released the pictures of Abu Ghraib. We would have heard all the lies.
I’m sure everyone remembers there was not a thing that was missed in the coverage of the actions leading up to the impeachment of Bill Clinton. Remember? Not one day went by that we didn’t hear about it on every station. We’re still hearing about it. Not so with the Bushies, is it? Doesn’t that scare you?
The one light we have had in this period of darkness of America’s right to know is Keith Olberman. God bless him! He is the only one who actually deserves to be called a journalist. Thanks Keith, for providing the truth. You’ve been a lifeboat for many of us!
January 28th, 2008 at 12:06 amThoes ratings are a REAL surge!…you trolls: If you say Bill O’Riley name, the CROOKS AND LIERS security will come to your house!
January 28th, 2008 at 12:26 amhere’s what Rush Limbaugh makes:
Salary: Signed a $250 million contract in 2001 that runs through 2009. Got a $35 million signing bonus.
WHAT THE!!??!! – that oxygen thief makes over 25 mil a year and 35 mil for signing his f**king name??!!??
January 28th, 2008 at 12:43 amunbelievable…..and obscene
What a pompous, arrogant braggart. Sure Olbermann would give up his fame for a competent presidency. Unfortunately the only competent presidency would probably be his own, so its a boast he’d never have to prove.
Shame the man can’t actually do his own show, that he has to rely on a Clinton-esque approach to trashing his betters.
Olbermann will tow the party line if somehow the unthinkable occurs and a Democrat is actually elected president!
January 28th, 2008 at 1:26 amThe trollies skitter away in the face of the light Keith shines. :-)
January 28th, 2008 at 1:54 amComment by Con10tious — January 28, 2008 @ 1:26 am
Wow! What irrational, silly gibberish…
January 28th, 2008 at 1:55 amROTFL!! Sorry, but that’s poppycock! If you don’t realize that there’s also strength, force and effort, then you neither understand evolution, or the fascist freaks (like CaptainMORON) that you’re up against! If you meet a FORCE like CaptainMORON with logic and compassion, you end up in a secret prison like many have at the hands of fascist fools… It’s a NICE DREAM, but JOIN THE REAL WORLD!
Comment by republicans hate facts — January 27, 2008 @ 11:55 pm
Oh boy, I think I turned up a bottom-feeder and the “I know reality and you don’t” school of insanity. Sorry Charlie, but your “Force, strength, and effort” are still diluted versions of logic. Now, you are running into a “Force” that says you do not understand evolution, in fact, I see your concepts as rather de-evolutionary, such as Fighting force with force. In fact, I will go one further…I think you are paranoid , and you don’t even see allies. Or…..you are a Neo-Con disguised as a “liberal”, much as I disguise myself as a Neo-Con on Freerepublic.
But to get to more the point, perhaps you are as foul-mouthed and stupid as the Neo-Cons you attack and hate so much.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:15 amKeith:
You HAVE TO cover the Romney “Careless Whisper.”
That is a huge story…it was Romney’s own voice – prerecorded – which can only mean that he knew the questions in advance.
January 28th, 2008 at 5:44 amit was Romney’s own voice – prerecorded – which can only mean that he knew the questions in advance.
Comment by plunger — January 28, 2008 @ 5:44 am
and he still sounded like a robot on the fritz.
January 28th, 2008 at 7:54 amThis thread has vividly illustrated my two favorite absurdities of partisan sheepism, from both sides:
“The Truth” — Both the Olbermann side & the Limbaugh side are just so convinced that THEIR guy has a firm grip on The Truth, which I’m sure makes them feel very warm in their tummies.
“You disagree with me, so you’re stupid” — One must usually be in a grade school playground to hear such maturity and reason, or you can always just stop by a partisan web site.
Too funny, thanks for the chuckles.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:03 amToo funny, thanks for the chuckles.
Comment by Mac the Blogger — January 28, 2008 @ 8:03 am
Wow, aren’t you deep. Too bad you don’t know the difference between fact and propoganda, you’d know better than to compare Limbaugh to any journalist.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:31 amLefty Patriot, you’re calling Olbermann a “journalist”? Are you one of those who think that Countdown is an objective newscast?
Come on.
Look, if that’s the case, I won’t try to change your mind on anything. I know your mind is closed tight, snapped shut, vacuum sealed. Olbermann is bright, articulate and passionate, but an objective journalist he is not.
Yikes.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:35 amComment by Brain From Planet Arous — January 27, 2008 @ 2:12 pm
And don’t forget what happened to Charles Chaplin: after he filmed Modern Times and The Great Dictator (and other things), he became a Persona Non Grata to the then ultra rightist USA stablisment, and they managed to remove him from his USA Visa while he was on a ship, traveling to Europe to do an artistic tour.
Think of it: he was accused of being a communist. He, who was an entrepreneur and created, with some others the immense bussiness that is Hollywood. He founded the United Artists with Douglas Fairbanks and Mary Pickford.
The modern Neocons are simply the Macarthyst witch hunt movement redux.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:40 am#215 – “Olbermann will tow the party line if somehow the unthinkable occurs and a Democrat is actually elected president!” Comment by Con10tious — January 28, 2008 @ 1:26 am
Uh, oh! Sounds like a reject from the “Permenant Republican Majority” sheeple!
Sweetie, the “unthinkable” would be to get another neo-con troll elected that would continue to sh!t upon the Constitution and do anything/everything they could to tarnish the US and the foundation on which it was built.
It’s going to take a good decade, or more, to recover from the failure that is the Bush Administration! Another Republican President would only increase the national debt, decrease civil liberties, and dismantle the US Constitution.
Save America from continued failure! Vote Democratic in 2008!
January 28th, 2008 at 8:44 ambut an objective journalist he is not.
Yikes.
Comment by Mac the Blogger — January 28, 2008 @ 8:35 am
Please, define “objective” and give an example.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:48 amEvil:
Sure, I’ll grab one online from Wikipedia: “objectivity may refer to fairness, disinterestedness, factuality, and nonpartisanship.”
The easiest example of this from journalism (I’ve been in “the media” since 1979, so I’m hip-deep in this stuff) would be to clearly provide both sides of any given topic, story or issue. Most television anchors (especially on the cable channels) accomplish this by having representatives of both sides of a debate on the air to discuss.
The journalist can also say something like “critics say…” or “those who oppose this say…”, which takes very little effort or investigation. It’s also incredibly easy to find the opposing view, because “pundits” are stumbling over themselves trying to get on the air.
Do you need examples of how Olbermann does NOT do this? Well, okay.
Watch his show tonight. Or tomorrow night. Or the next night. He will passionately argue one side of the story, then bring on a “guest” who agrees with him. The “other side” (gee, I’ll bet it’s the conservative side!) will not be given a voice.
Even the nearly unwatchable O’Reilly regularly has guests representing both sides of an issue. And an objective “journalist” he obviously is not, despite his goofy claims.
Again, Olbermann’s bright, articulate and passionate. An “objective journalist”? Of course not. Obviously.
I hope that helps. Anything else?
January 28th, 2008 at 9:08 amHe, who was an entrepreneur and created, with some others the immense bussiness that is Hollywood.
Comment by Evil Spaniard — January 28, 2008 @ 8:40 am
You say that as though it’s a good thing. ;)
January 28th, 2008 at 10:11 amLike someone on here said earlier, the right wing spends more time on left wing blogs than the other way around. Maybe because they charge their people.
Comment by JustPlainTired
No, it’s because 30 seconds after someone posts something that sounds even faintly liberal, their account is deleted and their IP is banned. The Republiscums can’t handle any opposition. It scares them to death.
January 28th, 2008 at 10:36 am. and who America likes to listen to, as Rush has about 100X more listeners than Randi Rhodes and the Young Turks combined.
Comment by good_golly
goon_golly apparently thinks that the reason why Randi Rhodes has fewer listeners than Rush Limpballs is because of the message. He is too stupid to realize that if a show is in 10 markets as opposed to 1,000 markets, the show in 1,000 markets will have a larger audience. What he is afraid to admit is that in markets where they go head to head (like Florida), Randi frequently beats Limpballs in audience share.
If the radio market was a level playing field, then you can compare the number of listeners. But it isn’t, and your comparisons are false. As long as our major media are owned by right leaning companies, there will not be a level playing field in radio.
January 28th, 2008 at 10:39 amPlease don’t feed the trolls.
January 28th, 2008 at 10:53 amIt’s always so refreshing to listen to K.O. – mainly because he is relatively intelligent. This intelligence is probably the main impediment to his being even more popular.
Whenever I hear Bill O’Reilly speak I know that I am listening to one of those guys who sits with his legs splayed wide on the train, taking up three seats in the process and giving everyone a good shot of his massive testicles.
January 28th, 2008 at 10:57 amGod bless Keith Olbermann!!!!!!!!
January 28th, 2008 at 11:11 amIt’s always so refreshing to listen to K.O. – mainly because he is relatively intelligent. This intelligence is probably the main impediment to his being even more popular.
Comment by bernard quatermass — January 28, 2008 @ 10:57
Probably has more to do with the vitriol with which he delivers his opinions. Independents like to hear the views of people on both sides of an issue without the messiness of their emotional overflow. Olbie is definitely bright and does good commentary. Too bad he is so hateul in doing so. His show is valuable for the information, but it’s a chore to put up with his nastiness. ;)
January 28th, 2008 at 12:13 pmThe easiest example of this from journalism (I’ve been in “the media†since 1979, so I’m hip-deep in this stuff) would be to clearly provide both sides of any given topic, story or issue. Most television anchors (especially on the cable channels) accomplish this by having representatives of both sides of a debate on the air to discuss.
Your argument has a basic failure: every issue has two sides. First, reality has only one representation. And second, your limited view makes you see every issue as “good” or “evil”. You’re the first who isn’t objective.
And representatives of both sides? Most of the Republican leaning outlets only provide “rightist” and “slightly less rightist” views of any issue. Revise your own definition of “fair” and “balanced”.
Do you need examples of how Olbermann does NOT do this? Well, okay.
Watch his show tonight. Or tomorrow night. Or the next night. He will passionately argue one side of the story, then bring on a “guest†who agrees with him. The “other side†(gee, I’ll bet it’s the conservative side!) will not be given a voice.
Looks as the standard procedure in right wing shows.
Even the nearly unwatchable O’Reilly regularly has guests representing both sides of an issue. And an objective “journalist†he obviously is not, despite his goofy claims.
“Rightist” and “Slightly Less Rightist” are not opposite views.
Again, Olbermann’s bright, articulate and passionate. An “objective journalist� Of course not. Obviously.
Comment by Mac the Blogger — January 28, 2008 @ 9:08 am
Maybe you’re the one tilted to the right and you don’t see fair not having always a Republican and a Libertarian as “opposite sides” (btw, they’re not Rightists and Loony Rightists?)
January 28th, 2008 at 12:20 pmHe, who was an entrepreneur and created, with some others the immense bussiness that is Hollywood.
Comment by Evil Spaniard — January 28, 2008 @ 8:40 am
You say that as though it’s a good thing. ;)
Comment by upright left — January 28, 2008 @ 10:11 am
I never claimed that doing bussiness is bad or evil per se. Is bussiness without conscience à la Republicaine what is bad, because alienates some people in favor of a little elite, not for the common benefit. Charles Chaplin, as I said, was an entrepreneur and a bussiness man, the old Republican type (or must I say “utopical” type?), yet also a strong defender of the worker’s rights and status as equal people. Based in these believings, he made the Modern Times and The Great Dictator, in an era where any humanistic ideal was seen as “communistic”.
So, I’m showing only the absurdity of calling such an entrepreneur and bussiness man “communist”. In itself, it shows the inconsistency and illogical stance of the Republicans, past and present.
January 28th, 2008 at 12:30 pmHe would hide in his bath tub if their was a Democrat in the Whitehouse. Just like he did with Clinton
January 28th, 2008 at 12:33 pmThere has not been one week, one month, in which Olby got bigger ratings in the key demo or total viewers..
In fact, only a few times, in over 5 years ,has Olby got bigger ratings in the demo.
Guess who Olbermann finally surpassed in the key demographics in July 2006?
Bill O’Reilly O’Falafel!
Olbermann’s Countdown on MSNBC had 244,000 viewers age 25-54 from 8:45 – 9:00pm while Bill O’Reilly O’Falafel’s show had only 240,000. Loofa Boy’s ratings steadily dropped thoughout his Friday show while Keith’s increased every 15 minutes.
Comment by republicans hate facts — January 28, 2008 @ 12:24 am
January 28th, 2008 at 12:40 pm“Too bad he is so hateul in doing so. His show is valuable for the information, but it’s a chore to put up with his nastiness. ;)”
Interesting – I don’t find him nasty. For me there is a great difference between K.O.’s righteous indignation and the snarky, hyper-testosteroned spew of an O’Reilly. The latter has no brains behind it whatsoever, unless you count the money-sucking lizard brain of someone who appeals to the lowest common denominator for the sheer buckage of it.
January 28th, 2008 at 12:43 pmBenjamin Disraeli described Keith “Don’t Bother Me With The Facts” Olbermann best in the following:
“A sophistical rhetorician, inebriated with the exuberance of his own verbosity, and gifted with an egotistical imagination that can at all times command an interminable and inconsistent series of arguments to malign an opponent and to glorify himself.” – Benjamin Disraeli
I might take exception to the “sophistical” reference in that it would take at least 60 more IQ points for Kieth Olbermann to even claim the mantle of “Village Idiot”.
Case in point:
Keith recently made light of the Iranian Speedboat Incident in the Strait of Hormuz, saying that no threat was imminent and after all what could a bunch of speedboats do to US warships. Perhaps Keith has forgotten that the USS Cole was successfully attacked with a rubber raft full of explosives.
I also heard Keith use the word jounalism, which is strange coming from such a “Glorified Liberal Carnival Barker”. Keith is not, has not and never will be a journalist. He is at the bottom of the ratings even in the “Talk/Bark Show Genre”.
With regard to the bald-faced lie that he purports not to be a “Liberal Mouthpiece”, to quote his current idol Hillary, to believe that would require the “Willing Suspension Of Disbelief”. In order to dispel ambiguity, I am saying that Keith Olbermann “Unmitigated Pathological Bald-Faced LIAR”.
Finally, with regard to his comments about not having opposing opinions on his “Talk/Bark Show”, he says that is not what he wants. What he really doesn’t want is to be required to defend his inane arguments and lies with a non-sycophant. What it really means though is that is a spineless, gutless coward.
January 28th, 2008 at 12:54 pmEvil:
“Your argument has a basic failure: every issue has two sides. First, reality has only one representation. And second, your limited view makes you see every issue as “good†or “evilâ€. You’re the first who isn’t objective.”
Huh? My whole POINT is that there are two sides to every story, and with Olbermann we get only one. Among the more amusing claims of partisans is that “our view is the only correct one, therefore the other side doesn’t DESERVE to be heard”, and evidently that is your position as well. I see the same thing coming from Al Qaeda.
“Looks as the standard procedure in right wing shows.”
Great! So we agree that Countown is a left wing show. That wasn’t so hard, was it?
““Rightist†and “Slightly Less Rightist†are not opposite views.”
Well, okay, I’m not surprised to learn that you consider regular guests like Al Sharpton, Kirsten Powers, Geraldo Rivera and rest as rightists, that’s fine. It gives me a good idea of how far left you are.
So we agree – Countdown is left wing, there are two sides of an issue and both should be clearly represented by objective journalists.
Sounds good to me!
January 28th, 2008 at 1:49 pmI never claimed that doing bussiness is bad or evil per se.
So, I’m showing only the absurdity of calling such an entrepreneur and bussiness man “communistâ€. In itself, it shows the inconsistency and illogical stance of the Republicans, past and present.
Comment by Evil Spaniard — January 28, 2008 @ 12:30 pm
My comment was in regard to the merits of Hollywood, not business. I agree with your premise. ;)
January 28th, 2008 at 2:35 pm“And so, if Fox HAD any “journalistsâ€, they would ALSO present BOTH SIDES, not talk over opposition, and NOT cut microphones.”
You are absolutely correct, Keith “Lying Carnival Barker” Olbermann never “talks over his opposition ” or “cuts their microphones” because he is too much of a coward to invite any intelectual or fact-based arguments on his tabloid variety show.
I did not respond to your earlier drivel out of fairness. It is not very difficult to have a battle of wits with an someone who is obviously unarmed as you are.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:53 pmArn, one can only imagine what it’s like to go through life with that kind of anger and hatred.
Wow.
January 28th, 2008 at 3:42 pmWhen you look into the eyes of an angry zealot, you know there is no reasoning with them. They will continue to hate, to the exclusion of everything else. Single-minded, not unlike a hungry wild animal.
Arn, I can see that trying to communicate with you is like trying to communicate with a suicide bomber, or one of Reverend Phelps’ gang. They ALSO believe they have an iron-clad grasp of The Truth. Just like you. Your mind is sealed shut, no light is going to get in.
I hope you find a healthy, positive release for all that anger. Right now I suspect you’re unstable. I wish you the best.
January 28th, 2008 at 3:55 pmComment by Arn Gunnutes — January 28, 2008 @ 4:03 pm
Arnie, ya forgot psy-ops! ;)
January 28th, 2008 at 4:06 pmComment by Arn Gunnutes — January 28, 2008 @ 4:03 pm
Arnie, ya forgot psy-ops! ;)
Comment by upright left — January 28, 2008 @ 4:06 pm
Right. And you DoD PSOPS TRAITORS to the USA as well will BURN IN HELL for your support of GENOCIDE and TREASON against the USA.
http://www.iwar.org.uk/iwar/
Along with MURDERER Bush the COXUCKER punk TRAITOR.
Sincerely,
NRA Gun Nutes
Comment by Arn Gunnutes — January 28, 2008 @ 4:08 pm
Much better, Arnie. ;)
January 28th, 2008 at 4:57 pmEvil:
“Your argument has a basic failure: every issue has two sides. First, reality has only one representation. And second, your limited view makes you see every issue as “good†or “evilâ€. You’re the first who isn’t objective.â€
Huh? My whole POINT is that there are two sides to every story, and with Olbermann we get only one. Among the more amusing claims of partisans is that “our view is the only correct one, therefore the other side doesn’t DESERVE to be heardâ€, and evidently that is your position as well. I see the same thing coming from Al Qaeda.
So you are incapable of understand that viewing issues in a matter of black or white is simplistic and that every issue has its own shade of grey or, best said, its own color? No wonder your low IQ attittude “either you’re blindly pro-Bush in every issue, or you’re with Al Qaeda”.
Every opinion is worth hearing, but reality is one and, for your bad luck, reality leans heavily to the left.
“Looks as the standard procedure in right wing shows.â€
Great! So we agree that Countown is a left wing show. That wasn’t so hard, was it?
You know, based in your posts, and your “logic” (har har), I agree that I’m intelligent and you very dumb. Same leap.
““Rightist†and “Slightly Less Rightist†are not opposite views.â€
Well, okay, I’m not surprised to learn that you consider regular guests like Al Sharpton, Kirsten Powers, Geraldo Rivera and rest as rightists, that’s fine. It gives me a good idea of how far left you are.
Well, considering your demonstrated mindset, probably you think Adolf Hitler is a communist and Mussolini some type of socialist.
So we agree – Countdown is left wing, there are two sides of an issue and both should be clearly represented by objective journalists.
Sounds good to me!
Comment by Mac the Blogger — January 28, 2008 @ 1:49 pm
Of course it sounds good to you, because you’re only hearing the little voices in your head. I never said anything you assert I’ve said.
So, being you so happy discussing with your “voices”, I left you alone (or not).
January 28th, 2008 at 5:08 pmI never claimed that doing bussiness is bad or evil per se.
So, I’m showing only the absurdity of calling such an entrepreneur and bussiness man “communistâ€. In itself, it shows the inconsistency and illogical stance of the Republicans, past and present.
Comment by Evil Spaniard — January 28, 2008 @ 12:30 pm
My comment was in regard to the merits of Hollywood, not business. I agree with your premise. ;)
Comment by upright left — January 28, 2008 @ 2:35 pm
Oh, i forgot, Hollywood is “leftist” because… because… exactly why? Because they make movies? I never understood that myth.
January 28th, 2008 at 5:10 pmWhen you look into the eyes of an angry zealot, you know there is no reasoning with them. They will continue to hate, to the exclusion of everything else. Single-minded, not unlike a hungry wild animal.
Arn, I can see that trying to communicate with you is like trying to communicate with a suicide bomber, or one of Reverend Phelps’ gang. They ALSO believe they have an iron-clad grasp of The Truth. Just like you. Your mind is sealed shut, no light is going to get in.
I hope you find a healthy, positive release for all that anger. Right now I suspect you’re unstable. I wish you the best.
Comment by Mac the Blogger — January 28, 2008 @ 3:55 pm
The left is angry, while the likes of Tim McVeigh bomb clinics and kindergartens in federal buildings. Happy happy joy joy!
January 28th, 2008 at 5:13 pmCorrection:
The left is angry, while the likes of Tim McVeigh bomb merrily clinics and kindergartens in federal buildings. Happy happy joy joy!
Comment by Evil Spaniard — January 28, 2008 @ 5:13 pm
January 28th, 2008 at 5:15 pmSo, why the HELL are you reichtards *always* whinging about how “unfair” Keith Olbermann is “because he only presents one side”…???
Tell me, you whining morons, when the HELL the right has EVER presented both sides??
When the HELL has Rush Limbaugh EVER presented any other side but the Republican/conservative/religious right side??
Billo? Ann Coulter? Sean Hannity?? Anyone?? When??
Like, never.
When any one of those right wing morons EVER bothers to present the OTHER side – then you can whine about Keith.
Until then, shut the everlovin’ fluck UP!!!
January 28th, 2008 at 6:02 pmEvil:
Thank you for providing such a vivid example of the partisan sheepism I referred to in post 223: “You don’t agree with me, so you’re dumb.” This is just too easy. You folks just can’t HELP yourselves, CAN you?
If the bottom line of all your childish insults is that Countdown is an objective news broadcast, we’ll have to disagree. I gave examples, you responded with 7th grade attacks. That’s all I need to know.
This is why the partisans on both sides of the political spectrum have zero credibility. Spin, denial, hyperbole, insults. And of course, “if you don’t agree with me, you’re dumb.”
So evidently (if I read between all the various insults) you look at Countdown as on objective news broadcast. Absolutely amazing.
If I’m wrong, and you admit that Countdown is not objective (again, tough to tell through all the insults), you could have just admitted it without the childish behavior.
Either way, you can continue with your insults now. I’m expecting “nyah nyah nyah” any minute.
January 28th, 2008 at 6:05 pmArn, okay, I see.
So a newscast doesn’t have to be objective if its orientation is leftist, because the leftist way of looking at things is The Truth. And The Truth is what matters in a newscast. I get it.
This actually coincides with a theory of mine. I believe the media is sincere when it says it’s not biased, because a vast majority of the media is leftist. When they “report” with a decidedly leftist slant (there are several ways to do this), they feel they are simply providing The Truth.
After two-plus decades in the industry, I’ve always been amazed at how “journalists” proudly slant the news but deny they’re slanting it. I think this theory of mine makes sense.
So Countdown doesn’t need to be objective, it doesn’t need to provide both sides of an issue, because it has a firm grasp on The Truth, and no other sides are needed.
I see. Absolutely fascinating.
January 28th, 2008 at 6:32 pmArn, surely you understand that the right-wingers you mention (Rush, Coulter, Hannity, O’Reilly) don’t try to pass themselves off as newscasts. You do know this, don’t you?
Or are you admitting that Countdown is not a newscast? If that’s the case, that was my original point, before all the emotion and insults took over.
A simple “yes” or “no” from you folks would be appreciated. All this anger is toxic.
January 28th, 2008 at 6:44 pmThanks.
Best of ETERNITY with TRAITOR Ronnie Reagan and MURDERERS Bush and Cheney in hell to YOU!
Comment by Arn Gunnutes — January 28, 2008 @ 5:00 pm
Careful there, bud. Don’t mess with psy-ops. ;)
January 28th, 2008 at 6:52 pmMy comment was in regard to the merits of Hollywood, not business. I agree with your premise. ;)
Comment by upright left — January 28, 2008 @ 2:35 pm
Oh, i forgot, Hollywood is “leftist†because… because… exactly why? Because they make movies? I never understood that myth.
Comment by Evil Spaniard — January 28, 2008 @ 5:10 pm
You’re right that a lot of Hollywood “entertainment” presents lefty views. Unfortunately the problem is much greater than that. The majority of what they produce has neither a left nor right message, but is almost universally bad. That is the problem. ;)
January 28th, 2008 at 7:03 pmArn, perhaps you have confused me with another person. I’ve not accused Olbermann of lying. You’ll have to play that game with someone else. I don’t care enough.
Of course, spin, hyperbole, diversion and denial are the foundation of partisan sheepism. Both sides. And pretending that KO isn’t a leftist is denial in its purest form.
So you agree with me, after all that. It ain’t a newscast. Bingo. Thanks!
January 28th, 2008 at 7:26 pmHoward Kurtz doesn’t get it because he’s a cynical ass.
January 28th, 2008 at 9:43 pmLet’s see.
“The Truth” is leftist.
Olbermann tells “The Truth”.
Olbermann blogs for DailyKos, that paragon of balance.
Olbermann is not leftist.
Wow.
January 29th, 2008 at 10:57 amOlberman is a shining light for truth in Politics. I say to you Keith, Keep it up!
Kurtz is a Bush backer and should follow the path of Keith and tell the truth about this lying Administration and the worst person to ever sit in the Oval Office!!! I have never been able to put the words President and BushII Together.
January 29th, 2008 at 2:25 pmCan someone please send me a list of any Democrats who have ever been named “Worst Person in the World” on Olbermann’s show.
He now looks and sounds like a dorkier version of Steve Allen, which is saying a hell of a lot!
January 31st, 2008 at 1:24 pmCan someone please send me a list of any Democrats who have ever been named “Worst Person in the World” on Olbermann’s show? Thanks.
He now looks and sounds like a dorkier version of Steve Allen, which is saying a hell of a lot!
January 31st, 2008 at 1:24 pm