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Huckabee Supports Preacher Who Pledges To ‘Fight Dirty’ With Congress Over Ethics Charges

huckcope.gif Sen. Chuck Grassley, the ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, is currently investigating whether six prominent televangelist ministries have improperly used “their tax-exempt status as churches to shield lavish lifestyles.” In November, Grassley demanded that the organizations turn over all financial statements and records.

Televangelist Kenneth Copeland, however, is refusing to cooperate. In a Jan. 22 closed-circuit broadcast of his 2008 Ministers’ Conference, Roll Call reports that Copeland essentially pledged a “holy war against ‘Brother Grassley,’” claiming that the financial documents belong to God:

“You can go get a subpoena, and I won’t give it to you!” Copeland storms. “It’s not yours, it’s God’s and you’re not going to get it and that’s something I’ll go to prison over. So, just get over it!” he tells Grassley, jamming his finger into the air. [...]

“You wanna get in a faith fight with me?” Copeland says toward the end, holding a Bible. “Why, just come on. But, I’m gonna warn you, I fight dirty. I got somebody else does my fighting for me. I just sit back and watch.”

Cognizant of the support he receives from evangelicals, former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee has put political alliances over ethics. After Copeland received his letter from Grassley, the preacher called Huckabee and offered him “a chance to break his association” with the ministry:

Huckabee “hollered at me on the phone. He said, ‘Are you kidding me? Why should I stand with them and not with you? They’ve only got an 11 percent approval rating.’

“I said, ‘Yeah, that’s my man,’” Copeland said of Huckabee.

It’s not surprising that Huckabee has little concern for the Senate’s ethics investigation. As governor of Arkansas, Huckabee was “investigated by the state ethics committee at least 14 times.” Similar to the allegations facing Copeland and the other ministries, Huckabee seemed to use his official position to enrich his lavish lifestyle, reporting $112,000 in gifts in one year alone, “nearly double his $67,000 salary.”

UPDATE: The Carpetbagger Report has more on Grassley’s investigation.

UPDATE: Sarah Posner has more on Huckabee’s connections to Copeland.

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176 Responses to “Huckabee Supports Preacher Who Pledges To ‘Fight Dirty’ With Congress Over Ethics Charges”

  1. barfly says:

    The tax exemption wasn’t given to you by God, you pious fraud.


  2. Badmoodman says:

    Charlatan, snake-oil salesman, and Elmer Gantry are just the beginning of how to describe Huckalujah.


  3. Fan of Man says:

    time to tax huckleberrys church 300%!


  4. Sabyen91 says:

    ‘Huckabee “hollered at me on the phone. He said, ‘Are you kidding me? Why should I stand with them and not with you? They’ve only got an 11 percent approval rating.’”’

    Uh, it is called the law? You know, render unto Caesar what is Caeser’s? Didja miss that part of the bible?


  5. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Cheney never replies to subpoenas.

    Why should Copeland, or God, for that matter?


  6. calibleu says:

    “You wanna get in a faith fight with me?” Copeland says toward the end, holding a Bible. “Why, just come on. But, I’m gonna warn you, I fight dirty. I got somebody else does my fighting for me. I just sit back and watch.”

    How Christian of you. The more they have to hide, the more they bloviate.


  7. Buckie Boy says:

    Mmmmm, sounds like a ChristoFascist rat is being cornered, and when they pop off like that, that means you head the nail on the head and you had better go after these guys with everything you can muster.

    Time to take out the ChristoFascist trash, and that rotten Phuckaberry also.

    Buck Fush


  8. katy says:

    “if they have nothing to hide, why are they trying to hide everything?”

    eh?


  9. Bob says:

    This false sense of entitlement sure has become disgusting. Now not just the Executive Branch thinks they’re above the law, their ‘base’ does too. Vanity is a sin.


  10. Marcus Aurelius says:

    This is why god has no standing before the US Congress.


  11. plunger says:

    RICE – The enabler of Armageddon:

    Secretary of State Rice’s response to the disaster in New Orleans was: “The Lord Jesus Christ is going to come on time.” She added: “If we just wait.” “On time”? How does Rice know the exact time Armageddon starts? “If we just wait”? That means in her, that is our, lifetime!

    By using NSA intelligence to set an invisible tripwire, the Bush administration is laying the condition for regional conflagration with untold consequences — from Pakistan to Afghanistan, from Iraq to Israel. Secretly devising a scheme that might thrust Israel into a ring of fire cannot be construed as a blunder. It is a deliberate, calculated and methodical plot.

    In order to try to understand the neoconservative road map, senior national security professionals have begun circulating among themselves a 1996 neocon manifesto against the Middle East peace process. Titled “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm,” its half-dozen authors included neoconservatives highly influential with the Bush administration — Richard Perle, first-term chairman of the Defense Policy Board; Douglas Feith, former undersecretary of defense; and David Wurmser, Cheney’s chief Middle East aide.

    Richard Haass, the Middle East advisor on the elder Bush’s National Security Council and President Bush’s first-term State Department policy planning director, and now president of the Council on Foreign Relations, openly scoffed at Bush’s Middle East policy in an interview on July 30 in the Washington Post:

    “The arrows are all pointing in the wrong direction. The biggest danger in the short run is it just increases frustration and alienation from the United States in the Arab world. Not just the Arab world, but in Europe and around the world. People will get a daily drumbeat of suffering in Lebanon and this will just drive up anti-Americanism to new heights.” When asked about the president’s optimism, he replied, “An opportunity? Lord, spare me. I don’t laugh a lot. That’s the funniest thing I’ve heard in a long time. If this is an opportunity, what’s Iraq? A once-in-a-lifetime chance?”

    It is a deliberate, calculated and methodical plot.

    “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm”

    Meyrav Wurmser was its author.

    http://fairuse.100webcustomers.com/fairenough/salon027.html


  12. VerbalKint says:

    Let us pray that by some miracle Huckleberry wins the nomination. He won’t reach double digits in the electoral college.


  13. VA Voter says:

    Pass the fair tax and this wouldn’t be a problem.


  14. Sabyen91 says:

    Fair tax…hahahaha!!!!


  15. plunger says:

    http://paktribune.com/news/index.php?id=130386

    Iraq: A War For Israel

    Thursday January 05, 2006 (1728 PST)

    The United States Invasion of Iraq in March-April 2003, and the occupation of the country since then, has cost more than fifteen hundred American lives and many tens of billions of dollars, and has brought death to many thousands of Iraqis.

    Why did President Bush decide to go to war? In whose interests was it launched?

    In the months leading up to the attack, President Bush and other high-ranking US officials repeatedly warned that the threat posed to the US and world by the Baghdad regime was so grave and imminent that the United States had to act quickly to bomb, invade and occupy Iraq.

    On September 28, 2002, for example, he said: “The danger to our country is grave and it is growing. The Iraqi regime possesses biological and chemical weapons, is rebuilding the facilities to make more and, according to the British government, could launch a biological or chemical attack in as little as 45 minutes after the order is given… This regime is seeking a nuclear bomb, and with fissile material could build one within a year.

    “On March 6, 2003, President Bush declared: “Saddam Hussein and his weapons are a direct threat to this country, to our people, and to all free people… I believe Saddam Hussein is a threat to the American people. I believe he`s a threat to the neighborhood in which he lives. And I`ve got good evidence to believe that. He has weapons of mass destruction… The American people know that Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction.” These claims were untrue. As the world now knows, Iraq had no dangerous “weapons of mass destruction,” and posed no threat to the US. Moreover, alarmist suggestions that the Baghdad regime was working with the al-Qaeda terror network likewise proved to be without foundation.

    So if the official reasons given for the war were untrue, why did the United States attack?

    Whatever the secondary reasons for the Iraq war, the crucial factor in President Bush`s decision to attack was to help Israel. With support from Israel and America`s Jewish-Zionist lobby, and prodded by Jewish “neo-conservatives” holding high-level positions in his administration, President Bush — who was already fervently committed to Israel — resolved to invade and subdue one of Israel`s chief regional enemies. This is so widely understood in Washington that US Senator Ernest Hollings was moved in May 2004 to acknowledge that the US invaded Iraq “to secure Israel,” and “everybody” knows it. He also identified three of the influential pro-Israel Jews in Washington who played an important role in prodding the US into war: Richard Perle, chair of the Pentagon`s Defense Policy Board; Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Defense Secretary; and Charles Krauthammer, columnist and author. [1]

    Hollings referred to the cowardly reluctance of his Congressional colleagues to acknowledge this truth openly, saying that “nobody is willing to stand up and say what is going on.” Due to “the pressures we get politically,” he added, members of Congress uncritically support Israel and its policies.

    Some months before the invasion, retired four-star US Army General and former NATO Supreme Allied Commander Wesley Clark said in an interview:

    “Those who favor this attack [by the US against Iraq] now will tell you candidly, and privately, that it is probably true that Saddam Hussein is no threat to the United States. But they are afraid at some point he might decide if he had a nuclear weapon to use it against Israel.” [2]

    Fervently Pro-Israel

    President Bush`s fervent support for Israel and its hardline premier is well known. He reaffirmed it, for example, in June 2002 in a major speech on the Middle East. In the view of “leading Israeli commentators,” the London Times reported, the address was “so pro-Israel that it might have been written by Ariel Sharon.” [3]

    Condoleeza Rice, Bush`s National Security Advisor, echoed the President`s outlook in a May 2003 interview, saying that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.” [4]

    In an address to pro-Israel activists at the 2004 convention of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), Bush said: “The United States is strongly committed, and I am strongly committed, to the security of Israel as a vibrant Jewish state.” He also told the gathering: “By defending the freedom and prosperity and security of Israel, you`re also serving the cause of America.” [5]


  16. tarazan says:

    Arrest these people for refusing to comply with subpoena,just like any other citizen will be treated by law.
    These Guys using Jesus as nice source of income.

    They will never tell you :”send me money”…they are smart…they tell you :”send it to God..”…[It is not yours, ..it is God's and you are not going ot get it'.... ]
    Ya, send money to God…but they open and control the bank accounts…and the cash collected.
    They fly private jets..and have all the luxuries while the poor people send the little checks to erase their sins,get recovery from illness,or get a job…
    They are preying on the poor,the elderly and the weak…they are fat and needed to be invetigated.


  17. plunger says:

    The Christian Zionists are hell bent on bringing about Armageddon:

    On July 16, I attended Christians United for Israel’s annual Washington-Israel Summit. Founded by San Antonio-based megachurch pastor John Hagee, CUFI has added the grassroots muscle of the Christian right to the already potent Israel lobby. Hagee and his minions have forged close ties with the Bush White House and members of Congress from Sen. Joseph Lieberman to Sen. John McCain. In its call for a unilateral military attack on Iran and the expansion of Israeli territory, CUFI has found unwavering encouragement from traditional pro-Israel groups like AIPAC and elements of the Israeli government.

    But CUFI has an ulterior agenda: its support for Israel derives from the belief of Hagee and his flock that Jesus will return to Jerusalem after the battle of Armageddon and cleanse the earth of evil. In the end, all the non-believers – Jews, Muslims, Hindus, mainline Christians, etc. – must convert or suffer the torture of eternal damnation. Over a dozen CUFI members eagerly revealed to me their excitement at the prospect of Armageddon occurring tomorrow. Among the rapture ready was Republican Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay. None of this seemed to matter to Lieberman, who delivered a long sermon hailing Hagee as nothing less than a modern-day Moses. Lieberman went on to describe Hagee’s flock as “even greater than the multitude Moses commanded.”

    Throughout CUFI’s Israel Summit, videographer Thomas Shomaker and I were hounded by PR agents seeking to prevent us from interviewing attendees about the End Times. The conference, we were told, was about “one message” – evangelical Christians supporting Israel. We were instructed to only interview CUFI leaders capable of sticking to the talking point that their support for Israel has, as Hagee declared, “nothing to do with the End Times.” But I was forbidden from asking Hagee about statements he made in his book, “Jerusalem Countdown,” that appeared to blame Jews for their own persecution. After doing just that during a press conference, I was removed from the conference by off-duty DC cops summoned by members of Hagee’s family.

    I have covered the Christian right intensely for over four years. During this time, I attended dozens of Christian right conferences, regularly monitored movement publications and radio shows, and interviewed scores of its key leaders. I have never witnessed any spectacle as politically extreme, outrageous, or bizarre as the one Christians United for Israel produced last week in Washington. See for yourself.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-blumenthal/rapture-ready-the-unauth_b_57826.html


  18. Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre says:

    Republicans fighting dirt? Newt Gingrich started the long parade of Republicans lying, smearing and sliming Democrats in the early 1990s. It was magnified by the Bush-Cheney-Rove gangster regimes, supported by electronically stolen elections in 2000, 2002, 2004 and 2006… Now Huckabee wants to “fight dirty?” How old hat of him. Think of something new, Huck, please…


  19. celtic cynic says:

    Thieves of a feather flock together.


  20. J says:

    You guys misunderstand what happened here. Copeland obviously didn’t break the law, God did.


  21. celtic cynic says:

    Methinks the tax exempt status and exemption from reporting their finances to the public should be revoked.


  22. natisman says:

    So our Congress has only an 11 percent rating with de citizens. I wonder what Parson Huck and the Babble of baptists have. I’ll bet they may not have that much with the folks that don’t watch them on TV or go to there Big-Time wrestle the soul from the Debbill, city block size churches.

    Lenny Bruce once said that any man of the cloth who has two suits is in it for the money!


  23. toasterhead says:

    Let us pray that by some miracle Huckleberry wins the nomination. He won’t reach double digits in the electoral college.

    Comment by VerbalKint — January 28, 2008 @ 3:48 pm

    Be careful what you pray for. There were many of us who thought an idiot like Bush wouldn’t stand a chance in the 2000 popular vote. Proving that one should never underestimate the ability of the American public to screw themselves.


  24. VerbalKint says:

    Pass the fair tax and this wouldn’t be a problem.

    Comment by VA Voter — January 28, 2008 @ 3:48 pm

    This imbecile can’t possibly earn enough money to benefit from the “fair” tax. But this imbecile probably isn’t aware that the Bush Treasury Dept. did a study of five tax reform scenarios, three of which were variations on so-called flat tax schemes, and concluded that all of them would constitute a huge tax break for the very wealthy, and therefore a huge tax increase for the middle class. Were the government to actually enact such a tax scam, the party in power would be destroyed by voter wrath in the following election. It ain’t gonna happen.


  25. judyinnm says:

    He’s probably using the prospect of a congressional investigation to raise $millions more from the suckers who think he’s going to pray them into heaven. I happened upon one of those “christian” stations, and watched as some guy explained how easy it was to send him money; and how desperately it was needed, and how desperately people NEEDED to send it to him.

    Honestly, if these people really believed in God and the Bible; they wouldn’t DARE “take (His) name in vain”, this way.


  26. Shayne says:

    If Jesus was alive today Copeland would gladly sacrifice him for his own selfish gain. Christians indeed. Christofascists is all they are.


  27. VerbalKint says:

    There were many of us who thought an idiot like Bush wouldn’t stand a chance in the 2000 popular vote.
    Comment by toasterhead — January 28, 2008 @ 3:57 pm

    That was an entirely different situation back then. The only candidate who has even a slim chance of winning for the GOP is McCain.


  28. VA Voter says:

    Under the fair tax they would pay taxes just like everyone. On consumption. You want churches to pay taxes then pass the fair tax.


  29. Sabyen91 says:

    Praise the LAAAWWWD, Daryll!!!!


  30. Leporello says:

    God Bless Atheism!
    Impeach Cheney and Bush and Save the Constitution!


  31. Bob says:

    Let us pray that by some miracle Huckleberry wins the nomination. He won’t reach double digits in the electoral college.

    Comment by VerbalKint — January 28, 2008 @ 3:48 pm

    This is exactly how a lot of people thought in 2000 with The Imbicile. He not only got the nomination, we’ve been stuck with him for nearly two full terms. Please stop hoping for the joke of a candidate, you just might get it. In fact we already got it, and we don’t need another.


  32. tarazan says:

    These people not only they don’t pay taxes on what they collect..they have a questionable accounting and auditing systems. And now they are getting federal checks under ‘Faith based- initiatives’

    http://faithbasedcommunityinitiatives.org


  33. VerbalKint says:

    Under the fair tax they would pay taxes just like everyone. On consumption. You want churches to pay taxes then pass the fair tax.

    Comment by VA Voter — January 28, 2008 @ 3:59 pm

    Under this mis-named tax scheme, the rich would pay DRAMATICALLY LESS taxes than they do now, according to Bush’s own Treasury Department. The rest of us will be left holding the bag.

    What a dumb****


  34. dbadass says:

    The devil is a lie.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:02 pm

    Cool, I was pretty sure he was but now I can do all that shit you are afraid of and not have to worry about it since I can’t be sent to an imaginary place lead by a dude who is just a “lie”. Thanks! You have made my day. Gotta run lots of sinning to catch up on….


  35. imorgan82 says:

    Someone explain to me what this “God” fellow cares about the finances of some makeup-wearing prick’s pyramid scheme? Knowing what I know about Jesus – which ain’t much – I feel like he was probably pro-transparency.

    But what do I know. I guess the reason I’m slacking off at work on a blog instead of leading legions of people is because I lack the ability to read this “God’s” mind.


  36. Sabyen91 says:

    The difference between Bush and Huckabee is that Huckabee scares a lot of Republicans with his “liberal” social and fiscal policies and…uh-oh, tax-raising. A Huckabee nomination would shatter the fragile partnership that big business and social conservatives have right now. I am all for it.


  37. VerbalKint says:

    This is exactly how a lot of people thought in 2000 with The Imbicile.
    Comment by Bob — January 28, 2008 @ 4:04 pm

    No it isn’t. Huckleberry wouldn’t stand a snowball’s chance in hell. He would get virtually no votes from independents, and Wall Street Republicans hate him. Plus the Republican party is dramatically weaker than in 2000.


  38. VerbalKint says:

    A Huckabee nomination would shatter the fragile partnership that big business and social conservatives have right now. I am all for it.

    Comment by Sabyen91 — January 28, 2008 @ 4:09 pm

    You are correct.


  39. rastaman says:


    Televangelist Roaches Running From the Light… Declare Jihad Against America

    JAIL? oh i think we can do better than that….i think i hear the rendition plane taking off for GITMO Kenneth…


  40. Tired of being lied to says:

    Put them in jail and wait for God to post the bail!


  41. dbadass says:

    Worry about following Acts 2:38. Our Clergyman need all the finances that they can receive to preach God’s word through the valleys, oceans and mountains. Jesus said, “Go ye all into the world and preach my Gospel”.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:08 pm

    I might toss some pocket change here or there but the hell if I am givinng these charlatans real money for those submarines they’ll be needing to convert those fish, whales, crustaceans, and the like on this zany Finding Nemo scheme.


  42. dbadass says:

    HELL IS REAL!

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:11 pm

    WHOSE RUNNING THE JOINT?


  43. VerbalKint says:

    It’s a moot point, anyway. Huckleberry will be out of the race after Super Tuesday. So will Giuliani. It is McCain vs. Romney now, and it is going to be close. McCain will be the stronger candidate in the general election because the big media back him, and is promulgating the myth that McCain is a moderate, which will fool many independent voters into supporting him. McCain didn’t help himself one bit with that comment about more wars, however.


  44. VerbalKint says:

    The wheels came off of Daryll a long time ago, and now he is really starting to break apart.


  45. Sabyen91 says:

    “This is why I continue to state that he is the best candidate for this nation, barnone.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:13 pm”

    Good to know you are on board with the splintering of the Republican Party platform.


  46. Bubs says:

    If the devil is a lie, how does he pull tricks against the Christian God’s shepherds?


  47. VA Voter says:

    Under this mis-named tax scheme, the rich would pay DRAMATICALLY LESS taxes than they do now, according to Bush’s own Treasury Department. The rest of us will be left holding the bag.

    What a dumb****

    Comment by VerbalKint — January 28, 2008 @ 4:08 pm

    The Treasury dept didn’t study the fair tax. They came up with a plan based on consumption that they knew no one would like. I invite you to find out the truth at Fairtax.org.


  48. tarazan says:

    #30 daryll….
    [It is the devil trying to pull his dirty tricks against God's shepards. The Devil is a lie.......]
    ———————————
    The issue is where the money went..that’s the issue , and why God’s shepards have to live on 20 or 30 times income of the poor who sent them the little checks.
    Copland simply does not want anyone to see where the money went,and how much he ,his wife and family benefited… that’s the issue here.. using God and Jesus as his defence.


  49. Nature Rules says:

    The devil is a lie.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:02 pm

    LOL Without a devil your god is useless!

    God is a lie.


  50. Sabyen91 says:

    Sounds like a real dick.


  51. bilbobaggins says:

    I hope that one of the first order of business for the new Democratic President will be to close down the Office of Faith Based Initiatives and get all the religious nuts out of our government. Then, s/he should go after these church’s tax exempt status. They have become so emboldened due to Bush’s disdain for the law, they are standing at the pulpit and telling people how to vote. If that’s not reason for revoking their tax exempt status, I don’t know what is.

    Besides, fair is fair. The Bushies have been attempting to take away the tax exempt status from liberal churches accusing them of what they are doing. Typical case of projection.


  52. Bubs says:

    But the devil is a lie, Daryll. You informed us so.


  53. leftcoast says:

    Romans 13:1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.

    The grace of the gospel teaches submission. In the general course of human affairs, rulers are not a terror to honest, quiet, and good subjects, but to evil-doers. Copeland would be one of that evil-doers.

    “Thou hast the benefit of the government, therefore do what thou canst to preserve it, and nothing to disturb it.”

    Copeland is biblically required to cooperate with the government. However, Copeland would appear to be anything but a Christian.

    http://www.biblegateway.com/resources/commentaries/index.php?action=getCommentaryText&cid=53&source=2&seq=i.52.13.1


  54. Bubs says:

    Does anyone know what Grassly intends to do if the investigation finds that these religious leaders misused their positions to improve their own lives?
    Step 1 = investigation but I’ve never heard what step 2 is.


  55. Nature Rules says:

    God allows the devil to tamper with his people to test their loyalty to him. The devil can only test God’s people with his authorization.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:17 pm

    HAHAHAHA You are too funny Daryll. You will make anything up too support your story.


  56. plunger says:

    More On The Romney Whisper – Romney Aid Admits To Earpiece

    http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/4986

    The Careless Whisper during the MSNBC debate proved two things.

    1. Romney knew the question that would be asked of him in advance.

    2. The voice heard whispered was his own:

    “He raised taxes, I’m not going to”

    Said in first person, as a prompt to himself, in response to a question that DID NOT mention taxes.


  57. gummitch says:

    God allows the devil to tamper with his people to test their loyalty to him. The devil can only test God’s people with his authorization.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:17 pm

    If God is omniscient, why does he need to run tests?

    And you just finished telling us Satan was a lie!! but now you tell us that Satan is actually doing God’s work. Which is it, Daryll?

    And, really, is your God so pathetically insecure that he has to keep testing people’s “loyalty”? Jesus told us that God loves us, and yet you claim that God doesn’t trust us at all.


  58. dbadass says:

    God allows the devil to tamper with his people to test their loyalty to him. The devil can only test God’s people with his authorization.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:17 pm

    Daryll, can you please walk me through this. The Devil is a lie but at the same time the Devil is a tool of God whose only actions are those which are directed by God. Would this not make God a liar?

    Maybe you might want to just tackle that shellfish deal that you have foresaken me on. Seems that might be a lot easier.

    Either way thanks for your willingness to assist me in clarifying all this complex stuff


  59. Sabyen91 says:

    “And you just finished telling us Satan was a lie!! but now you tell us that Satan is actually doing God’s work. Which is it, Daryll?”

    Or is it Larry? Or his other personality, Daryll?


  60. plunger says:

    One day a guy dies and finds himself in Hell. As he is wallowing in

    despair, he has his first meeting with the devil…….

    SATAN: “Why so glum?”

    GUY: “What do you think? I’m in hell!”

    SATAN: “Hell’s not so bad. We actually have a lot of fun down here. You a

    drinking
    man?”

    GUY: “Sure, I love to drink.”

    SATAN: “Well, you’re gonna love Mondays then. On Mondays, that’s all we do

    is drink. Whiskey, Tequila, Guinness, wine coolers, you name it we drink it

    and
    then we drink some more! And you don’t have to worry about getting a

    hangover, because you’re dead anyway.”

    GUY: “Gee, that sounds great!”

    SATAN: “You a smoker?”

    GUY: “You better believe
    it.”

    SATAN: “All right! You’re gonna love Tuesdays. We get the finest cigars

    from all over the world, and smoke our lungs out. If you get cancer, no

    biggie, you’re already dead, remember?”

    GUY: “Wow……that’s awesome!”

    SATAN: “I bet you like to gamble.”

    GUY: “Why, yes, as a matter of fact I do.”

    SATAN: “Good, cause Wednesday you can gamble all you want.
    Craps,

    blackjack, roulette, poker, slots, whatever. If you go bankrupt, it doesn’t

    matter, you’re dead anyhow.”

    GUY: “Cool!”

    SATAN: “What about
    drugs?”

    GUY: “Are you kidding? Love drugs! You don’t mean……?”

    SATAN: “That’s right! Thursday is drug day. Help yourself to a great big

    bowl of crack or smack. Smoke a doobie the size of a submarine. You can do

    all the drugs you want. You’re dead so who cares.”

    GUY: “Wow! I never realized Hell was such a cool place!”

    SATAN: “You gay?”

    GUY: “No……..”

    SATAN: “Oooooh , Fridays are gonna be tough……”


  61. Nature Rules says:

    Read Revelations.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:21 pm

    Read the countless other myths that humans have made up that sound just like your myth.

    “God was always in existence” – Who created god!


  62. IgnoranceIsNotBliss says:

    HELL IS REAL!

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:11 pm

    Wake me up when we get there okay?


  63. toasterhead says:

    Worry about following Acts 2:38. Our Clergyman need all the finances that they can receive to preach God’s word through the valleys, oceans and mountains. Jesus said, “Go ye all into the world and preach my Gospel”.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:08 pm

    In which verse did Jesus talk to the Apostles about fundrasising? I can’t find it.


  64. bilbobaggins says:

    HELL IS REAL!
    Comment by Daryll

    I am very glad that Daryll admits that hell is real, because that is where he will be going when he meets his maker. Imagine how disappointed he will be when he finds out where he is.


  65. dbadass says:

    So the Devil is like God’s Slugworth?



  66. pete says:

    Preachers don’t pray. They prey.

    Just like their, made up, gods and devils.


  67. euphgeek says:

    I seem to remember another preacher who tried to avoid paying taxes, too. It didn’t end well for him.


  68. imorgan82 says:

    I know Daryll posts on here a lot, but I never read it. Is he serious? I was reading this as satirical.


  69. dbadass says:

    Just be careful on those gold roads Daryll. They are hell in the winter time!


  70. bilbobaggins says:

    “God was always in existence” – Who created god!
    Comment by Nature Rules

    I think it’s possible that “God” was an alien race that seeded this planet with Humans as an experiment. Now, wouldn’t that make Daryll and his ilk’s head explode if that was proven to be true? That’s one of the reason why religions fanatics like Daryll are seriously anti alien. You start talk about alien contact and they go ape shit crazy.


  71. VA Voter says:

    A 2006 study by Boston University economists Dr. Laurence J. Kotlikoff and Dr. David Rapson, concluded that the fair tax benefits all income groups. For the first time, low income people are tax free due to the prebate reimbursing citizens based on family size of the sales tax paid on the poverty level of spending and the elimination of imbedded costs of corporate income, other income and payroll taxes and compliance costs now in the price of everything sold.


  72. toasterhead says:

    God is omnipresent. He gave each of us a brain and heart to choose him or the devil. It is up to us to make that decision. It is not about insecurity. He is looking for the Jobs within this flock. He’s looking for those who will give up everything on this earth, including family members, to serve him.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:25 pm

    Are you sure you chose the right one? The “God” you claim to serve apparently only wants to divide people and inflict suffering in order to “test their loyalty,” while lining the pockets of the “righteous” so they can spread the word.

    Sounds more like Satan’s kind of work to me.


  73. pete says:

    If Daryll grows old, and you want more comic relief, try this site:

    http://www.fstdt.com/default.aspx


  74. Nature Rules says:

    I know Daryll posts on here a lot, but I never read it. Is he serious? I was reading this as satirical.

    Comment by imorgan82 — January 28, 2008 @ 4:29 pm

    He’s as scary real as Kenneth Copeland and Mick Huckabee and Mitt Romney etc.

    By no means should people like Daryll and Copeland and Huckabee etc be allowed to be leaders in this world. Look what Bush has done with his religious ‘feelings’.


  75. dim wit says:

    Comment by VA Voter — January 28, 2008 @ 4:32 pm

    so if everyone benefits (”everyone pays less”) and the Republicans continue to spend, spend, spend I think we’re in even more trouble.

    You do realize the money we borrow has to be paid back, don’t you?


  76. dbadass says:

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:33 pm

    Excellent response and I really mean that. Now about this shellfish thing?


  77. imorgan82 says:

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:26 pm

    Hey, um, being a good Christian and all, what do you think about having slaves as well as abusing slaves? Thumbs up? Down?


  78. toasterhead says:

    Rest assured that I am trying all I can to make it to Heaven. I want to see the streets paved with Gold. I want to sing holy, holy, holy to him. I want to continue to thank him for choosing me.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:28 pm

    So you admit that you’re not “serving God” in order to clothe the poor or heal the sick or somehow help the least among us. You’re just trying to score enough brownie points to get to Heaven and walk on gold-paved streets.

    Doesn’t that seem just the least bit selfish?


  79. nanlichi says:

    I tried God once on accident. I think it must have been the tenderloin because it was real tender and juicy. Heavenly! If I had known it was a piece of God though, I might not have eaten it. Hell, God is man’s best friend.

    Wait! My bad, I thought Daryll was talking about trying dog.

    Why do you worship a dog Daryll? Makes absolutely no sense to me. But then, I guess a dog will at least fetch a stick. Which is a hell of a lot more than some mythological creature.


  80. dbadass says:

    I am still shaky as to why a God would need all this constant ass kissing from mere mortals. Does this God have some serious insecurity issues?


  81. gummitch says:

    I have the right one. How about you? Ex: Before a bank gives you money, it reviews your credit history to determine whether or not they trust that you will pay their loan. God is doing the same thing. He testing us to locate those who will praise him during the good and bad. These are the people who will be worthy enough to go through the gates of heaven. Oh I want to see him look upon my face.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:38 pm

    You still haven’t answered my question, Daryll: If God is omniscient, why does he need to run tests?

    If God is God, why do you seem to think he’s insecure? He has to keep checking on you to see if you’re still loyal? Why is your God so petty?


  82. Sabyen91 says:

    “Oh I want to see him look upon my face.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:38 pm”

    Jeez, I did not need a picture of your O! face in my head. I need brain-bleach.


  83. toasterhead says:

    I have the right one. How about you? Ex: Before a bank gives you money, it reviews your credit history to determine whether or not they trust that you will pay their loan. God is doing the same thing. He testing us to locate those who will praise him during the good and bad. These are the people who will be worthy enough to go through the gates of heaven. Oh I want to see him look upon my face.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:38 pm

    The God I worship isn’t a loan officer.


  84. VA Voter says:

    so if everyone benefits (”everyone pays less”) and the Republicans continue to spend, spend, spend I think we’re in even more trouble.

    You do realize the money we borrow has to be paid back, don’t you?

    Comment by dim wit — January 28, 2008 @ 4:35 pm

    I also support cutting spending. But If you remove the employment tax then that would make it cheeper to employ people in the US. Welcome back Manufatcuring jobs.


  85. pete says:

    Why would an omnipotent being need money? I must say that “tithing”, in all it’s forms, is the one thing, above all others, which has turned me against religion.


  86. dim wit says:

    HELL IS REAL!

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:11 pm

    please provide proof.


  87. gummitch says:

    Daryll, I think you need to spend a little time meditating on Matthew 6, especially the parts about hypocrites and about people storing treasures on earth (like your nice house and your neighbor’s expensive car, Daryll, and your vacations).


  88. dbadass says:

    Do you love him?

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:40 pm

    No more, no less than any of the other Gods which have been offered up by the minds of man. My duty is to my fellow people, and the multitude of other living forms which inhabit my world. Not to any one faiths unprovable ideas.


  89. dbadass says:

    will admit, Bush has told a few lies, and I do hope that he repents for them, but he has not done anything else that is serious. Same with Cheney.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:42 pm

    So I can pound this drink and snort this line, right?


  90. calibleu says:

    I will admit, Bush has told a few lies, and I do hope that he repents for them, but he has not done anything else that is serious. Same with Cheney.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:42 pm

    I have found your comments to be amusing. This however takes the cake. What number do you consider to be a few lies? At last count there were 900+ documented lies. I think that’s more than just a few. The most serious of which led to the invasion of another country to steal their oil and the loss of 4,000 lives of our men and women. Those deaths were caused by LIES!

    How does someone repent with they think they have done nothing wrong?


  91. imorgan82 says:

    God wants perfection. He wants your best. Being omnipresent has nothing to do with testing loyalty.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:43 pm

    God might have clued us in on the fact that disease is caused by bacteria, not evil, just as an act of good faith.


  92. toasterhead says:

    So you are stating that you don’t trust God to bless you. Even if you only had 100 dollars, would you give him his ten percent? Do you trust him to bless you.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:47 pm

    So your “God” is not only a loan officer, but also charges 10% interest?


  93. dbadass says:

    Comment by VA Voter — January 28, 2008 @ 4:43 pm

    I don’t buy the pitch the FairTaxer’s are slinging but I respect that you do. Wish to explain why you feel this wonderful idea has never gotten off the ground?


  94. gummitch says:

    You still haven’t answered my question, Daryll: If God is omniscient, why does he need to run tests?

    If God is God, why do you seem to think he’s insecure? He has to keep checking on you to see if you’re still loyal? Why is your God so petty?
    Comment by gummitch — January 28, 2008 @ 4:41 pm

    God wants perfection. He wants your best. Being omnipresent has nothing to do with testing loyalty.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:43 pm

    Get a dictionary!

    om·nis·cient (m-nshnt)
    adj. Having total knowledge; knowing everything: an omniscient deity; the omniscient narrator.
    n.
    1. One having total knowledge.
    2. Omniscient God. Used with the.


  95. pete says:

    These are not Gods. They are idols. There is only one God, and his name is JESUS!!!!!!

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:48 pm

    Don’t let Yahweh hear you say that. He’ll turn you into a “pillar of salt”.


  96. toasterhead says:

    These are not Gods. They are idols. There is only one God, and his name is JESUS!!!!!!

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:48 pm

    The God I worship doesn’t care what name people call him by.


  97. dbadass says:

    These are not Gods. They are idols. There is only one God, and his name is JESUS!!!!!!

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:48 pm

    Now that is just plain silly talk. Since I respect them all and you do not let’s get back to that shellfish shall we. I have asked you a very simple question. Will you answer it?


  98. Nature Rules says:

    These are not Gods. They are idols. There is only one God, and his name is JESUS!!!!!!

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:48 pm

    I thought Jesus was the son of god! Your cult has been worshiping the son and not the father – no heaven for you. And don’t get me started on that third ghost guy.


  99. joe cantwell says:

    do you notice that “rev.” copeland has that same crazy, “methed out” look that “rev.” haggard had?

    http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/btb/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/haggard.jpg


  100. joe cantwell says:

    True, he has a different name in different languages and dialects. I KNOW HIM AS JESUS!!!!

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:54 pm

    I KNOW HIM AS “HUCK” HUCKABEE!!!


  101. calibleu says:

    It’s up to him to answer to the Lord for these lies, if he already hasn’t done so. All in all, he has been a President full of faith and I respect that.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:50 pm

    So, does the conversation go like this:

    Lord: Georgie, you have been a naughty boy telling all those lies and causing the deaths of all those innocent people. You need to repent.

    Georgie: Lawd, I didn’t do nothin’. I didn’t tell any lies. I didn’t cause the needless deaths of all those innocent people.

    Lord: OK Georgie, come on in.

    Somehow, I don’t think the Lord will accept that lie. What you find respectable needs to come into question.


  102. Nature Rules says:


    do you notice that “rev.” copeland has that same crazy, “methed out” look that “rev.” haggard had?

    Comment by joe cantwell — January 28, 2008 @ 4:54 pm

    All these criminals go for the same look.


  103. VA Voter says:

    I don’t buy the pitch the FairTaxer’s are slinging but I respect that you do. Wish to explain why you feel this wonderful idea has never gotten off the ground?

    Comment by dbadass — January 28, 2008 @ 4:50 pm

    Good question. Thank you for asking. It has slowly. Look up HR26. The current bill in Congress.

    The fair tax removes power away from Washington and hands it back to the people. Politicians can’t have that.


  104. Leporello says:

    Christians have been worshiping a Zombie Jewish rabbi who was his own father, whose mother was raped by an angel. It just gets confusing after that.
    “God is a concept by which we measure our pain.” John Lennon.
    The “Truth of God” website is a space holder by RNC. What’s the story with that?
    Impeach Cheney and Bush and Save the Constitution!


  105. pete says:

    Yahweh is a Hebrew name for JESUS!!!!

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 4:53 pm

    WRONG! Yahweh is the Hebrew name for Jehovah. Yeshua is the Hebrew name for Jesus.


  106. dbadass says:

    Comment by VA Voter — January 28, 2008 @ 4:59 pm

    Sorry but this is so vague as to not really be an answer. I don’t mean to be disrespectful. Your response simply doesn’t say anything.


  107. calibleu says:

    By repentance, I mean that he must admit to the Lord that he was wrong.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:02 pm

    Yeah, like that’s going to ever happen. You crack me up!


  108. dbadass says:

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:01 pm

    So if they can all be one, why can’t all those funky Hindu gods be just other manifestations of your one?


  109. Fred says:

    I also support cutting spending. But If you remove the employment tax then that would make it cheeper to employ people in the US. Welcome back Manufatcuring jobs.

    Comment by VA Voter

    I just don’t get it…..what part of record profits do you guys not understand……

    what part of minimum wage is below poverty level do you guys not understand?

    What part of 47 million Americans without health insurance and the majority that do have it are underinsured do you guys not understand.

    I am really sick of hearing how hard life is for corporations in the US


  110. VA Voter says:

    ROTFL! You’re DUMB! The unFAIR tax penalizes the MIDDLE CLASS, while letting companies and rich individuals OFF THE HOOK! And you’re STUPID ENOUGH to BUY INTO THE NONSENSE!! ROTFL!! Are you a RON PAUL supporter to? Because you’re as dumb as a bag of sh*%!

    Comment by republicans hate facts — January 28, 2008 @ 5:01 pm

    How does bring home your whole paycheck “penalize the middle class?” Last time I checked rich people spend money. a lot of it. and I am not a Ron Paul supporter.


  111. dim wit says:

    I will continue to pray for you. Sometimes I cry for the souls of you sinners and hope that one day you will see the light and come to Jesus. That will be a joyous day full of glee and celebration.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:04 pm

    Why can’t Jesus come to us? It really would solve a lot of problems if he didn’t let wierdos like you and Copeland talk on his behalf.


  112. dim wit says:

    Because the Bible says that he is God, alone.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:07 pm

    Bible has been known to be wrong before


  113. Nature Rules says:

    God was on the verge of sending us all to hell, but Jesus decided to give up his life to give us a chance to save our souls before his return.

    But God = Jesus and Jesus = God!!! Did you mean “Jesus was on the verge of sending us all to hell, but God decided to give up his life….” Wait, God is dead?!! Well, not exactly, God doesn’t exist.


  114. dbadass says:

    God is not a male nor female.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:08 pm

    Then why is that Jesus third always portrayed as a hippie white guy?

    Can I get the Shellfish issue dealt with please? I sincerely am interested in your ideas relative to that topic.


  115. dbadass says:

    Because the Bible says that he is God, alone.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:07 pm

    But I thought He is made up of three parts. Weird math!


  116. pete says:

    God is not a male nor female.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:08 pm

    God’s a hermaphrodite?


  117. VA Voter says:

    Comment by VA Voter — January 28, 2008 @ 4:59 pm

    Sorry but this is so vague as to not really be an answer. I don’t mean to be disrespectful. Your response simply doesn’t say anything.

    Comment by dbadass — January 28, 2008 @ 5:04 pm

    If the government wants you to drive less they tax gas. They want you to quit smoking they tax tobacco. The government wants you to buy a house they give you tax breaks as an incentive. Fair tax would be 23% cross the board. .


  118. dbadass says:

    Comment by VA Voter — January 28, 2008 @ 5:13 pm

    Okay so back to my original question…or any I missing your point?


  119. VA Voter says:

    BRING HOME YOUR WHOLE PAYCHECK? HYSTERICALLY STUPID COMMENT! Who EXACTLY is going to pay for those TROOPS in IRAQ, and the POLICE, FIRE, WATER, ETC.? The whole FAIRTAX SCAM is based on the PREMISE that only the SALE of goods need to be TAXED, which means that SALES TAXES WOULD NEED TO BE SO HIGH, that the STANDARD OF LIVING of those MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE would DROP! MORON!

    Last time you CHECKED, rich people SPEND a lot of money? ROTFL, you’re STUPID! Rich people INVEST, RENT, and LEASE, meaning they would LARGELY BE EXEMPT from the unFAIRTAX – you DUMB LITTLE NERD!!! You’ve been HAD, and YOU’RE TOO STUPID TO KNOW IT!! ROTFL!!

    Comment by republicans hate facts — January 28, 2008 @ 5:12 pm

    The Fair tax rate is 23%. The cost of idems would not change or change very little.


  120. Nature Rules says:

    If you don’t give to God what is his, you are basically stealing from him, which is considered a sin.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:11 pm

    But according to your anti socialized beliefs YOU earned all that cash to buy a house in a gated community so shouldn’t YOU give god all of your money? He (or it since god is apparently not male or female (hermaphrodit?)) it gave you your body so shouldn’t you give your body to it? Your religion is really screwy.


  121. dim wit says:

    Comment by VA Voter — January 28, 2008 @ 5:13 pm

    Adn the only thing I would need to due to avoid paying it is to not document my purchases.

    Just as an FYI, VA Voter, I currently don’t pay any sales tax when I buy pot. Can’t figure out why the gov’t doesn’t tax it, but I buy mine tax free!

    Underground economy here we come!


  122. lurker says:

    Daryll please correct me where I am wrong.

    God knockes up some guy’s girlfriend. Then doesn’t support his
    bastard son. (deadbeat dad) Then he lets man kill his only son to
    forgives man of his sins???

    The only reason people believe this is because they were brainwashed
    as children.

    Isn’t it funny that the first thing that is done to baptize someone is
    pouring water over their head. (early waterboarding, believe or else)


  123. pete says:

    HE’S GOD!!! HE HAS NO GENDER.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:14 pm

    ROTFL!!!

    It’s God. It has no gender. Moron.


  124. Fred says:

    If the government wants you to drive less they tax gas. They want you to quit smoking they tax tobacco. The government wants you to buy a house they give you tax breaks as an incentive. Fair tax would be 23% cross the board. .

    Comment by VA Voter

    All of the republican ideas have landed us in this recession that you guys don’t want to admit that you caused with your greedy ideas….like the one you have touted here today…..Our turn…you are done. We will show you how to make America work for Americans……oh and balance a budget……

    again why should we listen to ya?


  125. Nature Rules says:

    God built a human body and used that body to appeal to humans on earth to save their souls. The body was called Jesus.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:16 pm

    Oh yeah right, that explains it! LOL

    Your brain has lost it’s power to think, sorry about that Daryll.


  126. dbadass says:

    Then why is that Jesus third always portrayed as a hippie white guy?

    Can I get the Shellfish issue dealt with please? I sincerely am interested in your ideas relative to that topic.

    Comment by dbadass — January 28, 2008 @ 5:11 pm

    Jesuse never referred to himself as a hippie white guy. Please show proof. His skin is like burnt brass and his hair is dark. Did you know that Adam and Eve were Africans?

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:13 pm

    I didn’t ask you how Jesus presented itself. I asked why it is normally portrayed as a hippie white guy. Based on the biology of pigmentation and the latitude that most of the story plays out, I myself would rule out any caucasians. As to Adam and Eve, as a biologist familiar with genetics, I simply don’t care to consider the obvious problems with that part of the story.

    You continue to avoid the shellfish issue. Is there a reason for that ?


  127. VA Voter says:

    Adn the only thing I would need to due to avoid paying it is to not document my purchases.

    Just as an FYI, VA Voter, I currently don’t pay any sales tax when I buy pot. Can’t figure out why the gov’t doesn’t tax it, but I buy mine tax free!

    Underground economy here we come!

    Comment by dim wit — January 28, 2008 @ 5:16 pm

    The tax is collected at the point of sale. As for your pot, you would’t pay taxes on that but you would do as much jail time for selling it.


  128. Fred says:

    Did you know that Adam and Eve were Africans?
    Comment by Daryll

    I thought that according to the bible that Eden was between the Tigress and the Euphrates…..that would make them…..Iraqi


  129. Nature Rules says:

    Please show me proof, not assumptions or theories.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:17 pm

    LOL Post of the day. Thanks for the laugh.

    Show me proof of god and not some 1900 year old document that has been edited over and over.


  130. pete says:

    You continue to avoid the shellfish issue. Is there a reason for that ?

    Comment by dbadass — January 28, 2008 @ 5:20 pm

    Maybe Daryll doesn’t “Believe” in shellfish?


  131. Fred says:

    Comment by VA Voter

    Seriously, why should we listen to your ideas……forget the details…..why should we think that you have a good sound economic idea to share with us?


  132. gummitch says:

    The Garden of Eden was located in Northeast Africa.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:23 pm

    Prove it, Daryll.


  133. celtic cynic says:

    #204 – PROVE IT


  134. Fred says:

    The Garden of Eden was located in Northeast Africa.

    Comment by Daryll

    Well that explains it…….my bible must be wrong…..God Damn it.


  135. dbadass says:

    Did you know that Adam and Eve were Africans?
    Comment by Daryll

    So the Mormons are totally confused about that Cain and Ham stuff?


  136. VA Voter says:

    ROTFL!!! What about YOUR METH, because it’s OBVIOUSLY made you BRAIN DEAD, if you are like the REST of the TARDS that believe this system will work! Countries in the eastern block that have adopted this approach have SUFFERED IMMENSELY for doing so! And their REVENUE COLLECTION has been incredibly poor! But don’t let the REAL WORLD impact that FANTASY NONSENSE of yours – GEEKAZOID!! ROTFL!!

    Comment by republicans hate facts — January 28, 2008 @ 5:25 pm

    13 states have a sales tax and have no prolems collecting it.

    What is your idea about taxes?


  137. pete says:

    Prove it, Daryll.

    Comment by gummitch — January 28, 2008 @ 5:25 pm

    #204 – PROVE IT

    Comment by celtic cynic — January 28, 2008 @ 5:25 pm

    Fundies don’t provide proof. It might make them think.


  138. wmhogg says:

    Dear Kenneth Copeland,

    A person you may have heard of said, “Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s…”.

    I don’t think that exempts your dirty bookkeeping and lavish lifestyle gained by prying the last two copper coins from poor widows and orphans from being inspected by the government.

    Guys and gals, I have heard this man speak on television and on audiotapes. He tells these people that God will reward them 10-fold or a 100-fold, so sending him money is the soundest investment decision that they could possibly make!


  139. celtic cynic says:

    DOES DARLING DARYLL PAY ANY TAXES?

    WHY NOT?

    WHY ARE FAKE-BASED MINISTRIES EXEMPT FROM TAXATION AND REGULATION?


  140. Nature Rules says:

    I know that his word is real because the New Testament is in line with our current events.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:26 pm

    OMG I don’t need to get my next Daily Show fix. ouch my side hurts.

    Poor Daryll, you are going to busy trying to prove all these statements of yours but this one is the best. LOL


  141. Gregor Samsa says:

    I seem to recall something in the Bible about having to render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s, and unto God what is God’s.

    And if I recall correctly, that discussion also involved taxes.


  142. dim wit says:

    The tax is collected at the point of sale. As for your pot, you would’t pay taxes on that but you would do as much jail time for selling it.

    Comment by VA Voter — January 28, 2008 @ 5:21 pm

    You see, this I don’t get. You started the day talking about the 10th Amendment. There are several states which allow the possession of marijuana for medical use.

    Are you suggesting that the state’s have no right to legalize (or decriminalize) and that this is a Federal power. Do you not believe in state’s rights?

    Also, you miss my point – All I have to do to not pay taxes is to not document a sale. Everything goes off the books. We all start paying cash and I don’t ask for a receipt. Its an underground economy.


  143. dbadass says:

    Daryll,
    I apologize for my many questions but since you seem adverse to answering my simply shellfish question even though you know my salvation may rest on it, I guess I would ask…
    Since your God is neither male nor female and is definately not White, don’t you think it ticks it off just a little bit to have all these frescos, stained glasses, and assorted other imagery of all them white folk! Isn’t there something about false imagery and that sort of thing in that great big book of everything?


  144. Fred says:

    Comment by Daryll

    http://www.ldolphin.org/eden/

    Wiki:
    The creation story in Genesis relates the geographical location of both Eden and the garden to four major rivers (Pishon, Gihon, Tigris, Euphrates)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_of_Eden


  145. missmolly says:

    Huckabee “hollered at me on the phone. He said, ‘Are you kidding me? Why should I stand with them and not with you? They’ve only got an 11 percent approval rating.’”

    —————————————————

    Wow — Huck sounds just like the trolls here at TP. And he apparently gets his erroneous data from the same source, wherever that is. The lowest the approval rating is for Congress is 18% — still pretty low, but nowhere near the 11% Huckabee thinks it is.


  146. VA Voter says:

    You see, this I don’t get. You started the day talking about the 10th Amendment. There are several states which allow the possession of marijuana for medical use.

    Are you suggesting that the state’s have no right to legalize (or decriminalize) and that this is a Federal power. Do you not believe in state’s rights?

    Also, you miss my point – All I have to do to not pay taxes is to not document a sale. Everything goes off the books. We all start paying cash and I don’t ask for a receipt. Its an underground economy.

    Comment by dim wit — January 28, 2008 @ 5:31 pm

    I don’t mind a state decriminalizing drug use. That’s the state’s right as far as the 10th amendment is concerned. I support that.

    The underground economy exist now and yes under the fair tax would still exist. but if a criminal goes to the store and buys something they pay the tax. And if a drug dealer gets caught now or under the fair tax, they can still be charged with tax evasion.


  147. gummitch says:

    The Garden of Eden was located in Northeast Africa.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:23 pm

    Prove it, Daryll.

    Comment by gummitch — January 28, 2008 @ 5:25 pm

    http://www.oneblood-onerace.org/study.html

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:28 pm

    You do realize that this points to a website using a first of the Bible designed to “interpret the Bible as it relates to persons of African descent”? In other words, that your “proof” is a website that is Afro-Centric? And that maybe, just maybe, they would have a particularly good reason to claim that Eden was in Africa?

    And that the site offers no actual evidence to substantiate their claim?


  148. Nature Rules says:

    My community is not gated, but it is a prestigious community.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:39 pm

    Oh well, sorry. I got the rest right!


  149. gummitch says:

    My community is not gated, but it is a prestigious community.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:39 pm

    You really need to get to a Bible, Daryll. Read all of Matthew 6 before you start bragging about your wealth again.


  150. pete says:

    Comment by VA Voter — January 28, 2008 @ 5:39 pm

    Two words: “Fixed income”.

    A “flat tax” would be death to the most vulnerable people in our society.


  151. Fred says:

    holy war against ‘Brother Grassley

    Wouldn’t that make him a trrist. I mean a holy war is not something to take lightly and is usually bloody. Right?


  152. dbadass says:

    That Holy Spirit is a dog! Joseph should have kicked it’s ass, double quick, two times!


  153. VA Voter says:

    Comment by VA Voter — January 28, 2008 @ 5:39 pm

    Two words: “Fixed income”.

    A “flat tax” would be death to the most vulnerable people in our society.

    Comment by pete — January 28, 2008 @ 5:43 pm

    I am not pushing a flat tax. I’m pushing the fair tax. Please read up on the prebate and how it covers people on a “Fixed income.”


  154. Fred says:

    Comment by VA Voter
    Two words: “new deal”.


  155. gummitch says:

    The creation story in Genesis relates the geographical location of both Eden and the garden to four major rivers (Pishon, Gihon, Tigris, Euphrates)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_of_Eden

    Comment by Fred — January 28, 2008 @ 5:37 pm

    If Romney is elected, it appears that we’ll have to shift Eden to Missouri. I personally like the idea that it was located on one of the islands in the Hebrides. It was a little like heaven out there.


  156. dbadass says:

    They are all false images, which includes golden crosses with him pictured on it. When you pray you should look to the heavens, not man-made imitations of him.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:44 pm

    So have you and your church been working to correct this issue? Why are there so many of these images in houses dedicated to your religion?
    Oh yeah, what about those shrimp?


  157. pete says:

    They are all false images, which includes golden crosses with him pictured on it.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:44 pm

    Jesus was invisible? I thought that was it’s creator’s trick.


  158. Fred says:

    Comment by Daryll

    hey d, I’m not religious but if I were I would be denying you as a religious anything…..sad and unholy….that’s all you are.


  159. dbadass says:

    They are all false images, which includes golden crosses with him pictured on it.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:44 pm

    Shouldn’t that be it and not him?


  160. dbadass says:

    These images aren’t located in our churches, http://truthofgod.com.

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:49 pm

    Dang, your church is more confused than I thought based on their website


  161. gummitch says:

    You must take into account that the earth was constructed differently during that timeframe. Therefore, these rivers were in the vicinity of Africa (Ethiopia).

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:47 pm

    More likely Armenia, Daryll. Nice try. You’re only a continent away.


  162. pete says:

    You must take into account that the earth was constructed differently during that timeframe. Therefore, these rivers were in the vicinity of Africa (Ethiopia).

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:47 pm

    Old Earth? Continental drift?

    Are you speaking heresy or just pulling things out of thin air because you KNOW you have nothing.


  163. Fred says:

    You must take into account that the earth was constructed differently during that timeframe. Therefore, these rivers were in the vicinity of Africa (Ethiopia).

    Comment by Daryll

    apparently we must take many things into account to be able to believe anything you might say.


  164. Nature Rules says:

    You must take into account that the earth was constructed differently during that timeframe. Therefore, these rivers were in the vicinity of Africa (Ethiopia).

    Comment by Daryll — January 28, 2008 @ 5:47 pm

    Where the rivers near Missouri in this timeframe? If so then the Mormons may be on to something!

    Daryll, do you not have any idea about how geologists know the makeup of our world and it’s history? You are sadly delusional with regards to your religion but how do you block out all the scientific reality as well?


  165. pete says:

    “It”, Daryll. Things without gender are called “it”.


  166. Fred says:

    You must take into account that the earth was constructed differently during that timeframe. Therefore, these rivers were in the vicinity of Africa (Ethiopia).

    Comment by Daryll
    After I posted it dawned on me that you are talking about 6000 years at most, right? And Iraq seperated from North Africa in that time frame, right?

    I thought so./sarc


  167. Fred says:

    Truth of God church, is that one of those snake worship religions?


  168. foolme1ns says:

    Excuse me Mr. Copeland, but who’s image is on the money that you rake is scamming the poor, the elderly and the ignorant?

    GIVE UNTO CEASAR, as your savior commanded you should do.

    I hope they throw his ass in jail. I’ve been fed up with these modern day Elmer Gantry’s for years now. They are nothing more than snake oil salesmen. Con artists of the worst kind. Selling God as though he were some sort of commodity, or promising people they could trade money for favors from God.

    If a church is taking money to run its business, then it needs to be paying taxes on that money. If they don’t want to pay taxes, then they should stay the hell out of politics or look to God for manna from heaven to run their enterprises.


  169. ForTruth says:

    Daryll just because you are good at Guitar Hero doesn’t mean you can actually play guitar.


  170. Gregor Samsa says:

    Jesus had no DNA? The garden of Eden was in Africa, as were the Tigris and the Euphrates? The “Give unto Caesar” command is actually more like a guideline?

    This troll should take his routine to Comedy Central.


  171. Fred says:

    You would think the trolls would be upset about the Jihad by copland against a republican grassley…..I guess we can expect a plague of locusts any day now.


  172. Fred says:

    “You can go get a subpoena, and I won’t give it to you!” Copeland storms. “It’s not yours, it’s God’s and you’re not going to get it and that’s something I’ll go to prison over.

    How about you give it to us and you go to prison.


  173. Xisithrus says:

    Why does GOD need financial documents?

    He has no use for money, right Daryll?


  174. OxyCon says:

    This is why Suckabee is a non factor. He didn’t conceal his religious extremism well enough. He should have taken a few lessons from Bush.


  175. Max-1 says:

    .

    “Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s”

    Many sun bleached tombs built with dead men’s bones.

    Eventually Christ throws them out…

    .



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