Comments on: SOTU: Iraqi Security Forces May Not Be Ready For Another Decade http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:55:26 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: crescentdave http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-4247350 crescentdave Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:57:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/#comment-4247350 Eventually. Def: period of time lasting up to a decade or so. See McCain's "hundred year occupation" for critique of this definition. Eventually. Def: period of time lasting up to a decade or so. See McCain’s “hundred year occupation” for critique of this definition.

]]> By: Frosty Cupcake http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-4246720 Frosty Cupcake Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:38:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/#comment-4246720 We will be there, in some capacity, until the oil is effectively gone. This has been the neocon plan all along and is quite well documented. We will be there, in some capacity, until the oil is effectively gone. This has been the neocon plan all along and is quite well documented.

]]> By: alphainfinityomega http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-4246689 alphainfinityomega Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:24:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/#comment-4246689 <em>...will be AL QAEDA, AL QAEDA! Right! Comment by buzzbomb</em> Yep; and they've been saying that for a while now. Think about it; how else can they justify such a clusterfuçk? <strong>A∞Ω</strong> …will be AL QAEDA, AL QAEDA! Right!
Comment by buzzbomb

Yep; and they’ve been saying that for a while now.
Think about it; how else can they justify such a clusterfuçk?

A∞Ω

]]> By: buzzbomb http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-4246687 buzzbomb Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:21:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/#comment-4246687 The fallout from this insane and avoidable war will be felt for years or more likely decades to come. Suicides, homocides, cancer from depleted uranium... We've barely seen the tip of the iceberg. Thanks Bush, you cock fu@*ker!!!!!! The fallout from this insane and avoidable war will be felt for years or more likely decades to come. Suicides, homocides, cancer from depleted uranium…
We’ve barely seen the tip of the iceberg. Thanks Bush, you cock fu@*ker!!!!!!

]]> By: alphainfinityomega http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-4246685 alphainfinityomega Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:19:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/#comment-4246685 Exactly how many Friedman units will another decade make? <strong>A∞Ω</strong> Exactly how many Friedman units will another decade make?

A∞Ω

]]> By: buzzbomb http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-4246682 buzzbomb Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:13:42 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/#comment-4246682 Every man, women, and child killed in Iraq from here till sometime in the very distant future will be AL QAEDA, AL QAEDA! Right! The insurgency is old news, everyone is a "suspected militant" now. Every man, women, and child killed in Iraq from here till sometime in the very distant future will be AL QAEDA, AL QAEDA! Right! The insurgency is old news, everyone is a “suspected militant” now.

]]> By: IMPEACH NOW http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-4246667 IMPEACH NOW Tue, 29 Jan 2008 05:48:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/#comment-4246667 <strong>Text of Pvt. 1st Class Jason Scheuerman's Suicide Note</strong> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=17... When Chris Scheuerman found out his son had died in Iraq, he says, he knew something was amiss. snip "Eventually, that evening, they said it was from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. At that point I asked them, 'How could that be?'" Scheuerman says. Because the Army was reluctant to provide details, it would take Scheuerman the good part of two years to answer that question. Only after filing numerous Freedom of Information Act requests and appealing to a local member of Congress for help, was he able to fit the puzzle pieces together, he says. The resulting image would haunt him and leave him revving to change the military's mental health system. snip On the day of Jason's death, he was issued an Article 15, a form of nonjudicial punishment. "They gave him that for being out of uniform. During those proceedings, his first sergeant told him that <strong>if he was faking his illness he would go to jail and become someone's 'butt buddy,'</strong>" Scheuerman says. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2632391 <strong>Text of Jason Scheuerman's Suicide Note</strong> <em> Includes misspellings and blacked out names. This I leave as my last message to those who I leave behind. I know you think Im a coward for this but in the face of existing as I am now I have no other choice. As the 1st Sgt said all I have to look forward to is a butt-buddy in jail, not much of a future. I dont want to know what you people think I have going for me to think I should want to live, trust me, I have nothing. I have done nothing but bring dishonor to this unit, myself, but most importantly my family. I wanted one last chance to say goodbye to them but that was taken away like everything else. Id like also to say goodbye to (blacked out) and (blacked out) the two people that have held me together until now. Split my things up amoung the platoon, after all that why people tolerated me, it's funny how getting your things taken away brings out the truth in people. Maybe finaly I can get rid of these demons, maybe finaly I can get some peace. Scheuerman</em> I am so sorry.. This just brought me to tears.. I am a member of the reserves and to think that something like this could happen is beyond tragic. That something like this could happen is an abomination.. My heartfelt prayers are with the soul of this fine young man..as well as his family.. ---- It should never have happened... That 1SG should be brought up on charges for his negligence. Text of Pvt. 1st Class Jason Scheuerman’s Suicide Note

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=17...

When Chris Scheuerman found out his son had died in Iraq, he says, he knew something was amiss.

snip

“Eventually, that evening, they said it was from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. At that point I asked them, ‘How could that be?’” Scheuerman says.

Because the Army was reluctant to provide details, it would take Scheuerman the good part of two years to answer that question. Only after filing numerous Freedom of Information Act requests and appealing to a local member of Congress for help, was he able to fit the puzzle pieces together, he says.

The resulting image would haunt him and leave him revving to change the military’s mental health system. snip

On the day of Jason’s death, he was issued an Article 15, a form of nonjudicial punishment.

“They gave him that for being out of uniform. During those proceedings, his first sergeant told him that if he was faking his illness he would go to jail and become someone’s ‘butt buddy,’” Scheuerman says.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×2632391

Text of Jason Scheuerman’s Suicide Note

Includes misspellings and blacked out names.

This I leave as my last message to those who I leave behind. I know you think Im a coward for this but in the face of existing as I am now I have no other choice. As the 1st Sgt said all I have to look forward to is a butt-buddy in jail, not much of a future.

I dont want to know what you people think I have going for me to think I should want to live, trust me, I have nothing. I have done nothing but bring dishonor to this unit, myself, but most importantly my family. I wanted one last chance to say goodbye to them but that was taken away like everything else.

Id like also to say goodbye to (blacked out) and (blacked out) the two people that have held me together until now. Split my things up amoung the platoon, after all that why people tolerated me, it’s funny how getting your things taken away brings out the truth in people.

Maybe finaly I can get rid of these demons, maybe finaly I can get some peace.

Scheuerman

I am so sorry..

This just brought me to tears..

I am a member of the reserves and to think that something like this could happen is beyond tragic.

That something like this could happen is an abomination..

My heartfelt prayers are with the soul of this fine young man..as well as his family..

—- It should never have happened…

That 1SG should be brought up on charges for his negligence.

]]> By: Sabyen91 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-4246611 Sabyen91 Tue, 29 Jan 2008 04:04:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/#comment-4246611 'Bush said: “American troops are shifting from leading operations, to partnering with Iraqi forces, and, eventually, to a protective overwatch mission.”' You said that 4 years ago. Excuse me if I call you a lying POS. ‘Bush said: “American troops are shifting from leading operations, to partnering with Iraqi forces, and, eventually, to a protective overwatch mission.”’

You said that 4 years ago. Excuse me if I call you a lying POS.

]]> By: cha cha cha http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-4246586 cha cha cha Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:34:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/#comment-4246586 not ready? that's unpossible! petraeus was in charge of training, and he said everything was going great back before the 2004 election. not ready? that’s unpossible! petraeus was in charge of training, and he said everything was going great back before the 2004 election.

]]> By: 99Luf Balloons http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-4246559 99Luf Balloons Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:11:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/#comment-4246559 Whitehouse IS TAKING CALLS NOW. 1-202-456-1111 Whitehouse IS TAKING CALLS NOW.
1-202-456-1111

]]> By: Xisithrus http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-4246524 Xisithrus Tue, 29 Jan 2008 02:55:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/#comment-4246524 325,000 trained troops and they still aren't ready, yet the Iraqi tribes have kept Al Qaeda at bay? Good Lord, what a disaster. 325,000 trained troops and they still aren’t ready, yet the Iraqi tribes have kept Al Qaeda at bay?

Good Lord, what a disaster.

]]> By: SamR http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-4246523 SamR Tue, 29 Jan 2008 02:54:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/#comment-4246523 Iraq will never be ready to take on this problem while we are willing to stick around and do the dirty work for them. Iraq will never be ready to take on this problem while we are willing to stick around and do the dirty work for them.

]]> By: 99Luf Balloons http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-4246520 99Luf Balloons Tue, 29 Jan 2008 02:48:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/01/28/sotu-iraqi-security-forces-may-not-be-ready-for-another-decade/#comment-4246520 The 3 words I want the next Prez to say as his/her first words after being sowrn in... ARREST THESE MEN. The 3 words I want the next Prez to say as his/her first words after being sowrn in…
ARREST THESE MEN.

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