Feingold: Iraq is ‘eviscerating our economy.’
Feingold: Iraq is ‘eviscerating our economy.’
Today, ThinkProgress attended a briefing with Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI), at which he said that the war in Iraq is “eviscerating our economy and our military”:
FEINGOLD: The way I measured this is when I did these twenty-two listening sessions, this year. I went out to these counties, very conservative counties mostly. [...] So, I purposefully don’t mention Iraq. I think at every single listening session several people got up and said, “When are you going to get the troops home?” I would say to them I purposefully didn’t bring this up. So, I think it’s a complete misreading. People know that this is eviscerating our economy and our military. [...]
Q: Do you think the war is eviscerating the economy?
FEINGOLD: Oh, I think it has a huge impact. You talk about the resources, the ability to do things, programs that are actually stimulative to the economy. Everything is on the ropes. … You never want it to be the only argument, but it is accurate, I think. And I think, you know, it’s where the priorities are. Clearly it’s not. Twelve billion a month would be helpful to do some kind of stimulus.
UPDATE: Politico has more:
Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) made a connection between the war and foreign companies buying large stakes in American companies.
You can’t borrow all the money for the war in Iraq from China and not have consequences. It costs $12 billion a month. Obviously it has weakened us economically, allowing this to happen,” she said.
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Apparently Israel, single every single person behind lying us into war is aligned with AIPAC, JINSA or the CFR, all of which tie directly into Israel’s Likud…but you knew that, right Russ?
January 29th, 2008 at 2:39 pmWho stole $2.3 TRILLION from the Department of Defense in the weeks prior to 9/11 Russ?
January 29th, 2008 at 2:40 pmFeingold is right on. Plunger, WTF>? what are you trying to say?
January 29th, 2008 at 2:40 pmThe old Guns and Butter argument – Still a valid concept.
January 29th, 2008 at 2:40 pmBush works for the Likud Party. His father, Poppy, did a deal with Likud during the Clinton Administration to ensnare Clinton in a tryst with a Mossad “Swallow” (Monica) in order to ensure GHW’s control of the agenda going forward. Poppy did a deal with the devil to bring down an American President using a foreign spy service to do it. This is called a CONSPIRACY. GHW Bush, Cheney and Ken Lay then conspired to create the California Energy Crisis in the year prior to the elections in order to set the stage for the OIL EXPERTS to take the White House in 2000. The Co-Conspirators then set their sites on working together to pull off their agenda, using elements of Poppy’s CIA and Likud’s Mossad to plan and implement 9/11 – the PNAC proscribed PRETEXT for the acquisition of the resources and territory of the Middle East. One Problem. Israel double-crossed the Bush Cabal and is blackmailing them BIG TIME. Israel controls everything inside the US. They have every single phone wiretapped and have their software running every vital system. Israel actually controls the launch and targeting codes of the entire US Nuclear arsenal. Chertoff controls Homeland security on Israel’s behalf. He is Mossad. Cheney ran the 9/11 operation, and used Mossad operatives to pull it off. Then Israel threatened to expose the Bush Administration’s role in it unless Bush and the rest of his cabal did exactly as Israel demands. Bottom line – Israel owns the United States – thanks to GHW Bush. None of this is speculation. These are facts.
January 29th, 2008 at 2:42 pmFeingold is right on. Plunger, WTF>? what are you trying to say?
Comment by RUCerious — January 29, 2008 @ 2:40 pm
typo. The word above after Israel in the first post was supposed to be “since”
January 29th, 2008 at 2:43 pmplunger, please link to the evidence that Ms Lewinksi is a Mossad operative, and the evidence about the Israelis controlling the nuclear launch codes..
January 29th, 2008 at 2:45 pmthanks.
It’s how the Afghans destroyed the USSR.
January 29th, 2008 at 2:45 pmOf course Feingold is right, but if you actually want to STOP THE WAR and FIX THE PROBLEM ONCE AND FOR ALL, you actually have to reveal the entire conspiracy that led us to this circumstance.
If you have evidence of a conspiracy and decline to reveal it while merely wringing your hands and pointing fingers, you are no less guilty than those who committed the greatest crime on earth.
Choose sides, Russ.
Tell us the ENTIRE TRUTH.
Only then can WE THE PEOPLE help you fix it
January 29th, 2008 at 2:45 pm#6, OK, that makes more sense, at least…
January 29th, 2008 at 2:46 pm2008 dream ticket: FEINGOLD/KUCHINICH
January 29th, 2008 at 2:47 pmPlunger:
What about the $2.3 trillion you cited earlier?
January 29th, 2008 at 2:48 pmOr….other 2008 dream ticket: KUCHINICH/FEINGOLD
January 29th, 2008 at 2:49 pmAnd that’s 12 billion a month of borrowed money that we can’t even pay the intrest on……Neocon logic and fuzzy econemy…..Geees it give’s me a head ache……And I am complaining about the loaf of bread I baught last year that cost $1.49 and this year is $2.59…When our service men and women are being blown up, innocent Iraq’s are dieing, Israel is still bombing the palestenian’s, the bush regime is selling off and out our country along with cutting, killing and drilling everything in sight……Sorry, please forgive me, I now regain my prospective…..Forgetting the damn bread will return to baking my own….Impeach, jail and seize all their asset’s…Stop this god damed war and bring our people home……Blessings..
January 29th, 2008 at 2:49 pmI just had that conversation with all my Republican co-workers. The whole thing about cutting taxes while waging war.
This is the Democrats fault. And the Democrats will have to raise taxes to fix this mess and the whole cycle will start over again.
My Republican coworkers agree that waring without $ has hurt the economy and raised the price of milk and gas…
January 29th, 2008 at 2:50 pmIt’s very nice to shuffle off the responsibility for the mess that we’re in to some secret cabal. But like the Illuminati, the Bilderbergs, or the Tri-Lateral Commission, its all smoke and mirrors designed to cover up the fact that the current regime is made up of meglomaniacs, idiots and butt-kissers.
January 29th, 2008 at 2:51 pm15 How is this the democrats fault?
January 29th, 2008 at 2:54 pmYour correct Uncle Ho….A true dream ticket…Blessings
January 29th, 2008 at 2:55 pm#14. It’s sad that these pigs have corrupted the U.S.. The mint is just printing more and more money to put off repayment of the debt. Soon it will be like the 70’s with inflation at 20%.
January 29th, 2008 at 2:56 pm#14. It’s sad that these pigs have corrupted the U.S.. The mint is just printing more and more money to put off repayment of the debt. Soon it will be like the 70’s with inflation at 20%.
Comment by celtic cynic
and by 2010 the republicans will convince the Americans that it’s the democrats fault…..if we let them again.
January 29th, 2008 at 2:58 pmWe constantly hear how the United States is so far ahead of other nations. What a laugh. European and Asian countries are free to employ their tax receipts in improving infrastructure, education, scientific research and all of those other disciplines in which we once excelled. The United States has squandered its treasure and military power in a senseless war because Bush felt that he was the chosen one of God if not God himself.
We will have a future in which Europe will out shine us with free college education (in many of its countries) based upon merit, far better internet access with higher capacity and lower cost (already true), better public and commercial transportation systems. Europe will have secured its future energy requirements as well as having seen the necessity to control consumption. We all see the same happening in Asia.
The United States is already falling behind in education. We will see it become more like the Saudi system (right wing religious madrassas) and Europe will surpass the US for educating foreign students, research and excellence. We will see our infrastructure crumble.
I could go on, but it just makes me too sick.
January 29th, 2008 at 2:58 pmTHE DEAL was 9/11.
Cheney perceived the perfect partner in the perfect crime to be Israel’s Mossad. Cunning, ruthless, skilled, connected, covert – the “False Flag” experts.
As is now clear and agreed upon by all, the Bush Sr. / Cheney Administration (in which Shrub is merely a spokesperson and useful idiot) adopted the PNAC plan as its own. Cheney found within it the opportunity to capture vast resource-rich territory in a World War blamed on others, and thereby enrich himself and his friends.
9/11 proved not to be the perfect crime, and the co-conspirators actually got caught, and have been covering up their crime and silencing their “enemies” ever since.
Israel and Cheney were both caught red-handed on 9/11 itself.
Cheney was caught when Norm Minetta walked in on him in the midst of barking out the orders that allowed the A3 Skywarrior to strike the Pentagon without being shot down.
Israel’s Mossad was caught when their five agents were arrested after being observed celebrating and filming the impact and subsequent collapse of the Twin Towers. They weren’t just arrested, they had with them video taped evidence of themselves celebrating on camera as the towers fell (as would a demolitions team after a successful implosion).
These events are factual. They occurred.
The lengths to which the US and Israeli governments have gone to bury these and other historic events are evidence of their complicity in 9/11.
Cheney was wrong to have selected Israel as any kind of partner in crime. Israel was not going to be content to share the spoils of war, Israel wants ALL the spoils of war, and has at its disposal ALL of the tools and leverage to literally destroy the United States, and is in the midst of doing so right this very moment.
Why the silence from the Bush Administration with respect to Israel’s destruction and acquisition of territory?
BLACKMAIL – plain and simple.
Through Abramoff, Franklin, Lieberman, Chertoff and their thousands of moles within the US Government, in concert with their vast network of installed monitoring software, data retrieval and listening devices, Israel has compromised virtually every Administration official AS WELL AS nearly every US Senator and Congressman.
Israel has evidence of all of them accepting bribes, because Israel was behind the bribes and recorded evidence of all of it. Israel has evidence of sexual escapades out of wedlock, because Israel arranged for it, and documented it. Israel has direct evidence of the Administrations role in 9/11, because Israel partnered in it.
Israel controls the Mainstream US Media, and the Administration KNOWS IT.
As we speak, Israel is threatening the administration with the total exposure of their role in 9/11 if they even begin to interfere with Israel’s plan to take out not just Lebanon, but also Syria AND Iran, using NUCLEAR WEAPONS – all within the next ten days.
The bombs that we are rushing to Israel at this very moment…the bunkerbusters to be delivered by the F-15s – are they nuclear?
If the US had any ACTUAL LEVERAGE or ability to slow down Israel’s mad territory grab and death machine, the least they would be doing is holding back delivery of bombs.
As with EVERY member of the Bush Administration, Condaleeza Rice has no power whatsoever over Israel. They’re blackmailing her too.
Israel has already accomplished its goal. It has completely compromised the integrity and security of the United States Of America. It is in total control of the US Treasury, Defense Department, Congress – every institution and branch of government.
The culture of corruption in Washington met its match in Israel. The co-conspirators thought they had an equal partner in crime, but they have now come to realize that this was a very long term and elaborate sting – for the ultimate prize – control of the United States Of America and its Nuclear Arsenal.
This is where we stand today. Literally everyone in Washington knows it. All of the retired Generals and Bush Senior advisors are on highest alert.
The Bush Administration is in the midst of the biggest disaster ever conceived, and unless they do EVERYTHING that Israel demands, the evidence of their crimes will be plastered across every major newspaper in the United States.
The Administration knows for a fact that Israel is going to nuke Iran and Syria. The only choice the Administration has to stop Israel from nuking these two countries, is to Nuke Israel itself. Even this though will not prevent the Truth of 9/11 from being revealed.
CHECKMATE.
Nuclear war is coming either way, and its coming right now.
“The Crazies” as Colin Powell referred to the Zionists, have won – and he personally enabled it.
“President Bush said to all of us: ‘I’m driven with a mission from God. ‘God would tell me, ‘George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan’.” “And I did, and then God would tell me, ‘George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq…’ And I did.
Secretary of State Rice’s response to the disaster in New Orleans was: “The Lord Jesus Christ is going to come on time.” She added: “If we just wait.” “On time”? How does Rice know the exact time Armageddon starts? “If we just waitâ€? That means in her, that is our, lifetime!
“At Church one day [Tom DeLay, House Majority Leader] listened as the pastor declared that ‘the war between America and Iraq is the gateway to the Apocalypse.’ DeLay rose to speak, not only to the congregation but to 225 Christian TV and radio stations. ‘Ladies and gentlemen,’ he said, ‘what has been spoken here tonight is the truth of God.’”
LESS THAN ONE MONTH AFTER 9/11:
“Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.” – Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.
Only by revealing the entire truth and arresting all of the guilty parties can the threat of Blackmail be removed.
January 29th, 2008 at 3:00 pm#19…C.C……Soon.? Where I am it’s there….Blessings
January 29th, 2008 at 3:00 pmand by 2010 the republicans will convince the Americans that it’s the democrats fault…..if we let them again.
Comment by Fred — January 29, 2008 @ 2:58 pm
Americans are stupid. The Republicans say “tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts” and the American lemmings go along with it. People are too stupid to understand credit, debt, and the fact all this money needs to come from somewhere. All they care about is not paying more taxes so they can have a few more dollars to go buy whatever uneccesary trendy piece of shit they’re selling in the mall.
Of course the Republicans will throw in a couple of non-issues like gay marriage or stem cells to get their dumb constituents all frothy at the mouth.
January 29th, 2008 at 3:04 pm#7 RUcerious,
http://www.com/general69/col.htm
January 29th, 2008 at 3:06 pmToo bad…
A perfectly good thread about a honorable Senator making important remarks about how bad the war in Iraq is hurting, not just our soldiers and their families and the Iraqis, but our economy and thus all families in the country. Now this thread gets ruined by an overly verbose and ignorant interloper named Plunger (apropos) with a a one-track, and abundantly simple, mind.
Oh well, there will be other threads.
January 29th, 2008 at 3:07 pmWhen Plunger posts, this place is not a destination, it’s a reprimand.
January 29th, 2008 at 3:07 pmcomment by Guido @ 2:50 pm
but….but….but Clinton got a BJ.
January 29th, 2008 at 3:08 pmsupplemental spending and not fighting for adequate funding.
January 29th, 2008 at 3:09 pmthe whole prog environment carries this blame~
The mint is just printing more and more money to put off repayment of the debt. Soon it will be like the 70’s with inflation at 20%.
Comment by celtic cynic — January 29, 2008 @ 2:56 pm
Print more money — what a great idea! It’s working like a charm in Zimbabwe!
January 29th, 2008 at 3:10 pmWhat is with Plunger. Crazy much?
January 29th, 2008 at 3:11 pm#7..Rucerious…
typo error on 25, should read:
http://www.rense.com/general69/col.htm
January 29th, 2008 at 3:12 pmOh well, there will be other threads.
Comment by Mark @ News Corpse — January 29, 2008 @ 3:07 pm
You don’t see any connection between the war in Iraq and U.S. foreign policy regarding Israel?
January 29th, 2008 at 3:12 pmForget spending that 20 billion a month. Just imagine what not borrowing from our ‘friends’ the Chinese (or those friends of ours in the Middle East) would have done — perhaps balancing that budget and not giving aid and comfort to our competitor for world domination.
January 29th, 2008 at 3:15 pm#32, oh please, don’t tell me that I’m supposed to believe that Jerry Fallwell said it, so it’s true???
January 29th, 2008 at 3:26 pmCheck out the lady burning money during the Weimar Republic inflation to heat her house because it was cheaper than buying firewood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_republic
January 29th, 2008 at 3:44 pmComment by plunger — January 29, 2008 @ 2:42 pm
Comment by plunger — January 29, 2008 @ 3:00 pm
Wish list:
1) That when posters get the urge to cut and paste large sections of type, they post a link instead.
2) That when posters succumb to the urge to cut and paste, they cite the source instead of presenting the material as their own words.
3) That when posters cite something as “fact”, they provide some evidence that it actually is.
4) That when posters have conspiracy theories, they back up their thoughts with something concrete instead of letting their posts go off unleashed.
5) That posters stay on the topic of the thread.
Every so often, a media outlet or a blogger/talking head from the opposition will come here looking for something they can use as evidence that we are 1) hatemongers, 2) complete loons, 3) parrots who can only repeat soundbites, 4) intolerant of others, or 5) unpatriotic traitors. Let’s not make it easy for them.
January 29th, 2008 at 3:44 pm#32, oh please, don’t tell me that I’m supposed to believe that Jerry Fallwell said it, so it’s true???
Comment by RUCerious — January 29, 2008 @ 3:26 pm
I guess you missed the other 10 or so links I provided you that would serve to educate the curious mind as to the uses and benefits of sexpionage.
You’re country is being totally destroyed while you wait around for the justice system to catch the crooks. Not going to happen.
You are welcome to ignore virtually all of the information available on the Internet with which you might come to your own conclusions about who is really in charge and what is really going on…or not.
My research is made available to you after thousands of hours of effort – at no cost to you.
Are you really doing everything you can to save your country?
Do you have room to throw stones?
January 29th, 2008 at 3:48 pmWhy can’t you just post the fu(king links?
I am doing what I can, in the time I have to discover and counter the fascists in government. You don’t have a goddamn monopoly on that, brother.
Read miss molly’s post, and take them to heart, and just maybe more people will get your message…
January 29th, 2008 at 3:50 pmguess you missed the other 10 or so links I provided you that would serve to educate the curious mind as to the uses and benefits of sexpionage.
So if they’re so easy to prove, post the links!!!
January 29th, 2008 at 3:51 pm#21 Comment by JMOHR — January 29, 2008 @ 2:58 pm
How right you are. Here in Germany it is possible to buy 17 Mbs internet service (three times as fast as the U.S.), plus telephone service, for around 40 euros/month. Other infrastructure is also much better. Public transportation is extensive and well run. Better health care is delivered at a much cheaper cost, giving companies here a major competitive advantage over U.S. companies.
But worse than that is how the United States is conceding scientific advancements to European and Asian countries. The situation is particularly bad in materials science since the Bush administration has eliminated virtually all scientific research at NASA. Within a few years the U.S. will be at a serious competitive disadvantage.
January 29th, 2008 at 3:54 pmWrong–the Cheney-Bush ’starve the beast’ conspiracy which included Iraq and huge tax write-offs for the ultra-rich are agencies of economic evisceration!
January 29th, 2008 at 3:56 pmFolks, I can tell you with some certainty that plunger is completely immune to your concerns about his anti-social behavior. The options are to:
a) abandon threads taken over by this person
January 29th, 2008 at 3:57 pmb) skip past this person’s posts (easier said than done when they account for 90% of the thread)
c) complain to TP staff
Thanks VK, I’ll take that to heart and not try to engage in arguing with him…
January 29th, 2008 at 3:59 pmsome regulars have endorsed plungers right to post as he does………I tried to ask plunger to just post links and was taken to task for it……..my option was to upgrade my isp and internet connection. You just have to scroll by them…….the trolls are allowed too, so, what are ya going to do?
many people will thank plunger for his posts and so I have adjusted and moved on.
January 29th, 2008 at 4:03 pmThanks for the advice, Fred. I must have missed the other ten posts where he did link evidence that Monica was Mossad…geebus.
January 29th, 2008 at 4:08 pmHe aint lying. Those are some seriously ‘conservative’ parts of the country.
For a ‘liberal’, or even any outsider, those places can be pretty damn unwelcoming.
Feingold has guts. I admire the hell out of him.
Go Russ!
January 29th, 2008 at 4:12 pmThanks for the advice, Fred. I must have missed the other ten posts where he did link evidence that Monica was Mossad…geebus.
Comment by RUCerious — January 29, 2008 @ 4:08 pm
I must have missed that too, but I usually ignore his spam.
January 29th, 2008 at 4:14 pmDon’t get me wrong, I am not opposed to plunger posting here. It is the length of the posts, and sometimes the aggressively off-topic nature of the posts, that disrupts the thread and spoils it for others. Also, to repeat something someone else said, there seems to be a lot of uncredited material being copied by this person.
January 29th, 2008 at 4:23 pmFeingold/Wexler ‘12
January 29th, 2008 at 4:31 pmFeingold/Dodd ‘08
January 29th, 2008 at 4:52 pmDon’t get me wrong, I am not opposed to plunger posting here. It is the length of the posts, and sometimes the aggressively off-topic nature of the posts, that disrupts the thread and spoils it for others. Also, to repeat something someone else said, there seems to be a lot of uncredited material being copied by this person.
Comment by VerbalKint — January 29, 2008 @ 4:23 pm
Given the sheer volume of material I post, it does seem logical that someone could take me to task by proving that anything I’ve posted is patently false. So far there have been no takers when I demand that ANYONE provide any links or facts to prove me wrong. Look, I’m a damn conspiracy theorist. Anyone who isn’t at this late stage in the game is simply in denial.
It IS a CONSPIRACY of epic proportions, and I post the evidence of it nearly every day. Deny it at your own peril.
As for the requirement to post “on topic,” – just think about that.
When is the last time you saw a thread on ANY major liberal or progressive blog that has as its topic “conspiracy to commit treason” or “Israeli spy ring inside the united states” or “Zionist control of US foreign policy”
Answer…never.
If my contentions are accurate, and they are, it will NEVER be on topic.
You think that’s just a coincidence?
As for providing links, upwards of half of the once functioning links that I used to use to guide people to the source of my information have magically been disabled. Try to pull up ANY archived story on Haaretz, for example. Not possible.
Look through this stuff that was put online by someone other than me nearly two years ago, and see how many links have been disabled.
http://plungerspeaks.blogspot.com
Then ask yourself why.
January 29th, 2008 at 4:55 pmGiven the sheer volume of material I post, it does seem logical that someone could take me to task by proving that anything I’ve posted is patently false.
This is a straw man. Most people here are complaining about your posting habits, not the veracity of your posts. I, for example, have never once claimed that anything you have posted is false. I wouldn’t know, I simply don’t read the stuff.
January 29th, 2008 at 5:10 pmWolfowitz said this war would pay for istelf!!
January 29th, 2008 at 5:11 pmAs for providing links, upwards of half of the once functioning links that I used to use to guide people to the source of my information have magically been disabled.
Now you are setting up a false dichotomy. You can post on your own blog, and link to it.
January 29th, 2008 at 5:12 pmI wouldn’t know, I simply don’t read the stuff.
Comment by VerbalKint — January 29, 2008 @ 5:10 pm
Karl counts on that. Nicely done. Enjoy Martial Law.
January 29th, 2008 at 5:13 pmNow you are setting up a false dichotomy. You can post on your own blog, and link to it.
Comment by VerbalKint — January 29, 2008 @ 5:12 pm
That is NOT my blog. That was put together by WinterPatriot as a collection of my stuff that he had copied and save, and put on that web site without my knowledge. I am unable to post there.
It’s simply a snap shot of my best stuff as of two years ago – in his eyes.
Some people not only read every word, they comprehend it and share it with those they care about.
January 29th, 2008 at 5:15 pmI looked at your site plunger, why cant one leave comments? Or did I miss the comment link?
January 29th, 2008 at 5:16 pmIt is not my site. It was constructed by an awesome blogger named Winter Patriot. It’s just an archive that he chose to post. I was very surprised when he directed me to it.
Check out his site, it’s really well done:
http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com
Tell him plunger said hi.
January 29th, 2008 at 5:18 pmFeingold is flat-out the best Senator we have. He fights like nobody’s business for the right issues. I am glad to see Chris Dodd has found his spine through the tutelage of Russ. I only wish more Democrats would do this.
January 29th, 2008 at 5:23 pmWell, I concur with what Feingold is saying.
Looking back thru American history during times of war more money is printed to pay off the debt incurred by the war. That increase of money supply, however, also increases inflation. The normally trys to keep a 4.5% inlfation rate, however that is now, by many estimates, about 15 %
January 29th, 2008 at 5:24 pmCorrection: *The FED normally trys…
January 29th, 2008 at 5:25 pmc) complain to TP staff
Comment by VerbalKint
Been there, done that. They don’t seem to care.
January 29th, 2008 at 5:29 pmWow, it looks like TP has finally taken action re: plunger’s posting habits. All his posts on this thread have gone poof!
January 29th, 2008 at 5:32 pmYes, Plunger, by all means don’t be soiling these threads with anything relevant or enlightening. We’re talking style here; screw the substance. It takes a good two or three seconds — sometimes three and a half, for crying out loud — to scroll past your posts. Any idea how much wear and tear that is on the tendons? And to what end, educating the masses? Please. Come back when you learn the deal, say, maybe after the next election is stolen. Then join the brevity-minded in a chorus of outrage. Just make it punchy. Those of us with the attention span of a gnat thank you in advance. Much obliged, TP, for giving this chap a Carl Cameron scrubbing and keeping edifying posts off the table.
January 29th, 2008 at 6:19 pmComment by cazzie russell — January 29, 2008 @ 6:19 pm
Wow. Sarcasm.
Plunger apparently has his own blog (although maybe doesn’t allow comments, which is so incredibly ironic I can’t quite believe it). That would be the appropriate place to cut & paste his long long comments that are often irrelevant to the thread. And you could go there and read them without having to put up with those of us suffering from GnatAttentionSpan (or GAS).
January 29th, 2008 at 6:32 pmLeft-Gatekeepers at their worst (best) in this thread and have infiltrated TP. As long as you can keep bashing Bush and Company, everything is OK.
After plunger is a nuisance. His long, informative threads. I much rather read a foul-mouthed “Republicans Hate Facts” because every other word of the total of twenty is f**k, sh*t, p*ss, c*nt. Now that is REAL informative.
Just how many are NSA OPS here? Oh wait, The Gatekeepers think spying on Americans and disrupting Progressive forums are Conspiracy Theories.
Sept 11, 2001……….Gatekeepers were supported Bush and going after al-CIAda. According the same Gatekeepers, ALL videos of Bin Laden were the same person. After all Bush said it was.
Sept 11 happened exactly the way the Bush Administration said it did. Of course, according to them, EVERYTHING coming out of Bush’s mouth is a lie.
JFK was killed by Oswald according to Amy Goodman and Noam Chomsky.
Barack Obama thinks the greatest president in modern history is Reagan and is endorsed by Skull and Bones Kerry and “I will take your vitamins and herbs” Ted Kennedy.
George Soros is a part of the Carlyle Group
And so much more:
http://www.questionsquestions.net/images/left_gatekeepers.gif
January 29th, 2008 at 6:51 pmGummitch, kudos on correctly identifying my post as sarcastic. And thanks for the heads-up on Plunger’s having a blog, and that I could go there and read it if I want. You missed the point, though, because there was no suggestion of being made to “put up” with anyone here. Quite the contrary. The vast majority of folks here — including some of those who are the most put off by Plunger — write insightful and redeeming commentary. I’ve scrolled through some of Plunger’s posts, but not many. He’s clearly got some background and/or inside sources that most of us here do not, and to those who have read his stuff he has demonstrated that there are very few topics in the political landscape that aren’t ultimately related. If he was spewing tripe, or 200 lines of “hey-ooo,” I could understand the distress. But he’s not. The point was that the host yanked posts that others might have wanted to read because some found pressing the scroll-down key to be too exhausting a task.
January 29th, 2008 at 9:08 pmYes, Brain from Planet Arous, pluger’s Mossad-Lewinsky post was positively illuminating!!!!! Shut up, already.
January 30th, 2008 at 1:17 amTry to go with the 9-11 conspiracies…I dare you. Tin foil freak.
January 30th, 2008 at 1:17 amBush is bankrupting the country in order to end the so-called entitlement programs like social security and medicare (If there’s no money, how can checks go out?), and close down government agencies like the Department of Education and the FDA.
You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to have figured this out. I’m not one, and knew what he was going to do if he got the opportunity the first time I heard him push tax breaks during the 2000 campaign, “We gotta get the money out of Washington. If it’s there, Congress’ll just spend it.”
What I didn’t know was that Democrats would turn out to be ineffectual, spineless enablers.
Every day that goes by without investigations and hearings into what this administration has done (and no impeachment proceedings begun), Democrats show us that they’re co-conspirators with Bush and Cheney.
January 30th, 2008 at 1:28 am