1 million:
By on Jan 30th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
1 million:
Iraqis who have died “as a result of the conflict in their country since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, according to research conducted by one of Britain’s leading polling groups.” The survey also found that “20 percent of people had had at least one death in their household as a result of the conflict, rather than natural causes.”
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small price to pay for…
January 30th, 2008 at 5:11 pmBush/Cheney should be charged with mass murder as well as other charges.
January 30th, 2008 at 5:12 pmNot that it isn’t Horrible but, Sadly, Isn’t that old news?
January 30th, 2008 at 5:14 pmThis is how Bush/Cheney spead democracy. The get innocent civilians slaughtered and then declare victory for ending the violence. Impeachment and trying them for war crimes is not enough. There is no penalty commensurate to their crimes against humanity.
January 30th, 2008 at 5:15 pmThat’s terrible. This war should never have happened.
And to think the boy Bush said the “sacrifice is worth it.”
January 30th, 2008 at 5:17 pmHow many of the Iraqi people died during shock and awe… 4,000 bombs dropped on Baghdad in a 48 hr period of time over KNOWN LIES and brought to us by MSM, who is invested in MIC, on our TV for entertainment?
January 30th, 2008 at 5:18 pmLet US never forget the LIES, OBSCENITIES and FILTH this administration has brought.
“You made a desert, and called it peace.”
January 30th, 2008 at 5:21 pmIs 1 million senseless deaths caused by the War Criminal Bush enough to get him impeached and dragged off to trial for his crimes?
You’d think it was, but I guess the useless slugs in congress don’t think so, I mean they’re just brown people halfway around the world, it’s not like they have to look at the corpses or anything.
Bush/Cheney
Hague Trials ‘09
Buck Fush
January 30th, 2008 at 5:22 pmComment by had enough — January 30, 2008 @ 5:18 pm
The MSM is complicit to these needless deaths and should be held accountable.
January 30th, 2008 at 5:31 pmFrom the Vietnam War, these are the rough numbers:
North Vietnamese and Viet Cong deaths are estimated at over 1,000,000.
Vietnamese civilian deaths estimated 500,000 to 1,000,000.
Wow, I tell you, Bu$h and Cheney are good. They’ve managed to wax as many Iraqi civilians as we did in Vietnam in only a third of the time!
January 30th, 2008 at 5:35 pmBush’s justification for the invasion of Iraq was “to removal a brutal dictator responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi’s“.
I eagerly await this man’s War Crimes Trial in the Hague.
January 30th, 2008 at 5:37 pmMission Accomplished, BushitCo…
January 30th, 2008 at 5:38 pmAfter the chymp leaves the white house, they’ll discover the bloody altar in the sub basement…
January 30th, 2008 at 5:39 pmThat is painfully sad and heart breaking.
January 30th, 2008 at 5:39 pmI agree that the War in Iraq has been a terrible decision on the part of this administration and that the cost in lives is beyond shameful, but I read that this study based the number of households on 1997 census numbers. I’ve also heard many times that a great number of Iraqis have fled to neighboring countries (before and during the war) to escape the conflict, so how can they base their figures on 1997 census data?
Do that makes sense?
January 30th, 2008 at 5:40 pmWe, as Americans, have no frame of reference for the kind of terror that George Bush has unleashed on the Iraqi people.
Bush and all of the pro-war Righties kept telling everyone for years to “remember 9/11″, when it seems like they are the ones who never really understood in the first place.
January 30th, 2008 at 5:45 pmComment by JTee — January 30, 2008 @ 5:40 pm
The margin of error in the survey, conducted in August and September 2007, was 1.7 percent, giving a range of deaths of 946,258 to 1.12 million.
Even if the survey is wrong, which I imagine it is, if is is even 50% accurate, I am still appalled by the amount of needless destruction we have caused. And its all for nothing.
January 30th, 2008 at 5:47 pmThe MSM is complicit to these needless deaths and should be held accountable.
Comment by dim wit —
January 30th, 2008 at 5:49 pmAlso complicit in choosing the dem’s primary candidate, protecting the Bush Crime Family and keeping America entertained during the corporate robbing of our treasury.
One million reasons why you don’t go to war based on the reasons given for this war.
January 30th, 2008 at 5:54 pmThat’s 333 times 9/11.
Like starting from Jan 1st until Oct 30th, you have a daily 9/11.
Imagine that. We are all guilty in some way.
January 30th, 2008 at 5:57 pmDo that makes sense?
Comment by JTee — January 30, 2008 @ 5:40 pm
About 10% have fled to other countries, so that wouldn’t change the accounting much. Besides, I expect that they have taken account of this in the study. The people doing this work are experts.
January 30th, 2008 at 6:07 pmI wonder what the wingnuts are saying about this; assuming that they believe it, which they can’t, because it would threaten their fragile view of the U.S. and Bush as sources of good in the world.
January 30th, 2008 at 6:16 pmJuan,
January 30th, 2008 at 6:16 pm2001 was not a leap year. 2008 is. The time line varies according to your metric.
The time line varies according to your metric.
Comment by WaltTheMan
Well, I didn’t say which year you have to take into account. But I thought about that. Olympics make me remember.
January 30th, 2008 at 6:54 pmAverage American thinks only 9,000 Iraqis have died.
Not wanting to think about civilian deaths in Iraq has become almost universal. But ignorance of the Iraqi death toll is no longer an option.
An Associated Press poll in February found that the average American believed about 9,900 Iraqis had been killed since the end of major combat operations in 2003. Recent evidence suggests that things in Iraq may be 100 times worse than Americans realize.
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/27562
January 30th, 2008 at 7:27 pmThe MSM is complicit to these needless deaths and should be held accountable.
Comment by dim wit — January 30, 2008 @ 5:31 pm
The U.S. prosecuted Nazi propagandists as war criminals.
The television networks and leading newspapers are the prime source of news and information for tens of millions of people in the US. However, these public resources are in the hands of giant firms, controlled by fabulously wealthy individuals who will stop at nothing to defend their profits and property. The corpses of thousands, or, if necessary, millions of Iraqis, Syrians, Iranians and others are a small price to pay, as far as the media billionaires are concerned, for achieving American military and economic domination of the globe.
This makes the US media an accessory before and after the fact to crimes carried out in Iraq and future crimes against other peoples in the region and around the world. Sitting far from the ravaged Iraqi cities, in well-appointed boardrooms, the media moguls may believe they will never face such charges. There are, however, historical parallels and precedents to the contrary.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/apr2003/nure-a16.shtml
** I can’t wait to see Brian Williams, Katie Couric and Chris Matthews being found guilty for war crimes and facing a life sentence.
January 30th, 2008 at 7:36 pm.
What is the magic number for a genocide?
A million and ONE?
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January 30th, 2008 at 9:36 pmNorth Vietnamese and Viet Cong deaths are estimated at over 1,000,000.
Vietnamese civilian deaths estimated 500,000 to 1,000,000.
Comment by citizen_pain — January 30, 2008 @ 5:35 pm
I remember from the film “Fog of War” that McNamara agreed with the figure of 3.2 million Vietnamese. He was very into accurate numbers.
January 30th, 2008 at 10:56 pmI also think it is wrong to kill men in the military if our invasion of their country is totally illegal—-this includes Iraq, Vietnam, Lebanon, Panama, Grenada, Cuba, Nicaragua, etc.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:00 pmOff topic:
Here’s a great source of “anti-troll” arguments.
http://www.rationalrevolution.net/
January 31st, 2008 at 12:01 am